From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #388 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, October 15 1998 Volume 07 : Number 388 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Ebbish crisis! [Danielle ] [none] [dobbs ferry ] More songs not about buildings or food [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz] The King is dead ... [Ross Overbury ] Re: Ebbish crisis! [Tom Clark ] I don't know, ran across this clipping tonight... (100% RH) [Ethyl Ketone] Re: I don't know, ran across this clipping tonight... (100% RH) [amadain ] Re: I don't know, ran across this clipping tonight... (100% RH) [Michael ] The sensational Dylan and the Hawks Live 1966 CD (100%RZ) [Michael R Godw] Re: I don't know, ran across this clipping tonight... (100% RH) [Mark_Glo] Re: The King is dead ... [Ken Ostrander ] RE: I don't know, ran across this clipping tonight... (100% RH) ["Chaney,] Big Mac Attack [JH3 ] Re: I don't know, ran across this clipping tonight... (100% RH) [Aaron Ma] re: The King is dead [Russ Reynolds ] "albert hall" CD (100% Dylan) [Russ Reynolds ] deep purple question [Russ Reynolds ] Re: I don't know, ran across this clipping tonight... (100% RH) [Ross Ove] Re: Big Mac Attack (no Texan content) [Eb ] Re: I know this clipping tonight... (100% RH) [Eb ] Re: The sensational Hawks Live 196 [Eb ] Re: Big Mac Attack (no Texan content) [Jason Thornton ] Imagination and substance (zed RH) [amadain ] Re: I don't know, ran across this clipping tonight... (100% RH) [amadain ] Richard Thomson Tix... [Glen Uber ] Re: The King is dead ... [Briannupp@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:35:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielle Subject: Ebbish crisis! People, the suspicious silence from the resident curmudgeon is due to the fact that he is having dreadful computer problems. Is Tom Clark, Mac expert at large, around to help out? Or anyone else Mac-clever? It's something to do with upgrading to system eight and having problems with on-line compatibility - don't ask me, I'm a clueless PC user - but if you can help, send an email my way and I'll liaise with 'I must maintain my privacy at all costs' Ebby... I dunno, the things I do for that man... ;) Danielle, who would much prefer instead to be cleaning her house in preparation for this evening's date with a Texan _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:51:30 -0700 (PDT) From: dobbs ferry Subject: [none] hello maniax, ]wus wondering if anything is going on in the ny area anytime soon. there's been no info on the website, i feel blind. whens the movie? what the dilly yo? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:53:25 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: More songs not about buildings or food >>Anyone out there ready to come up with a list of terminal illness songs? > >Um... I think most of Lou Reed's "Magic And Loss" qualifies. Sorry, I >hain't got the track list with me. well "What's good" certainly does James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 98 23:11:50 EDT From: Ross Overbury Subject: The King is dead ... Frankie Yankovic, come back! Will famous people ever stop dying? - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:36:04 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Ebbish crisis! On 10/14/98 5:35 PM, Danielle wrote: >Is Tom Clark, >Mac expert at large, around to help out? Or anyone else Mac-clever? >It's something to do with upgrading to system eight and having >problems with on-line compatibility - don't ask me, I'm a clueless PC >user - but if you can help, send an email my way and I'll liaise with >'I must maintain my privacy at all costs' Ebby... errr, me thinks Eb is busy formulating his 13/20 "Storefront Hitchcock" review. After our $150 million profit announcement, I'm pretty fuckin wasted. So, contact me tomorrow with Mac questions. Upgrading to 8.x should not cause you any heartaches. Feels like 1974, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:59:47 -0700 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: I don't know, ran across this clipping tonight... (100% RH) Couldn't sleep, leaving tomorrow. From 1997 Lollipop interview, I think... RH- One thing I've always found insulting was the notion that if you had any sort of imagination it had to be drug - induced. There are drugs that will unhinge you a bit. I suppose, but to imply that you're only able to think of things that aren't in little square blocks of thought if you've been tripping or smoking dope is really obscene. I didn't write a lot of songs about fish and amphibians. Maybe one song in ten would contain a reference to an animal or a fish. But these creatures are there just as much as we are. They're not buying records... L- They're starting to, I hear. RH- I hope so. But their lives are sort of dependant on ours. If we foul up the planet we take them with us. I think there's a monstrous arrogance in humanity to think it can go 'round producing all these songs and not mention the other creatures out there. They weren't necessarily metaphors, I was just mentioning them. But I was aware that I was projecting a sort of wacky, ludicrous image of myself, and so, around the time of Perspex Island (1991) I tried cleaning myself up a bit, growing up a couple of notches. I had a mixed amount of success with it - some people got bored, and others said "Oh no, he's no fun anymore." But I'm not some wacky little fruit singing about fish and insects, oblivious to everything else in the world. I don't know much about politics, I don't pour over the newspapers, but I can see how people feel. I'm here just as much as everyone else and I'm horrified at what humanity is doing - I've never found it easy to be proud of being human. I think a lot of what's fueled my work is a disgust with humanity and thinking, "Oh god, am I really one of them?" It's like I've said before, "an angel's head sewn on to a baboon's body." That's why my stuff has never been pop music - pop music celebrates life and mine never really did. More like, "Ullgh, I can't believe there's more of this disgusting stuff inside me. Let's have another look, shall we? Ooh, what's all this, rotting eggs?" and so on. You know, it's that fascination with disgust you must have had when you were a kid. L- I still have it. RH- Good lad. You pry the puffball open and all the spores come out, you challenge yourself to inhale the rotten meat in the bin liner...it's not like it takes up 95% of my time, but it's always there. But now, at least halfway through my life, I've settled into enjoying being human more. At long last I feel like I'm in the right place, as they say. Anyway, end of sermon, that's the story. "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** M.E.Ketone/C.Galbraith meketone@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:44:03 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: I don't know, ran across this clipping tonight... (100% RH) >Couldn't sleep, leaving tomorrow. From 1997 Lollipop interview, I think... > >RH- One thing I've always found insulting was the notion that if you had >any sort of imagination it had to be drug - induced. Thank you Robyn! (well, Robyn and Carrie, also, for posting this) This has always bugged the shit out of me. I for one am sort of a natural surrealist. I wish I had a nickel for every time someone told me "you sound like an acid head". When I note that I've never done any psychedelic drug and have no wish to, people take that as some kind of Nancy Reaganish thang. Really it's that I feel a bit defensive- it's damn annoying to constantly have people suggest that anything in my brain that isn't plain and mundane must necessarily have come from a chemical source. I'm not knocking acid explorations but I do wish that people would quit attributing any kind of fantastic or imaginative thought to chemicals. There is such a thing as having an imagination, you know. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:03:16 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: I don't know, ran across this clipping tonight... (100% RH) On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Ethyl Ketone wrote: > Couldn't sleep, leaving tomorrow. From 1997 Lollipop interview, I think... > > RH: But I'm not some wacky little fruit singing about fish and > insects, oblivious to everything else in the world. So that's why "I dream of antwoman" isn't on the CD! > RH: I don't pour over the newspapers, but I can see how people feel. * pore * - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:14:16 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: The sensational Dylan and the Hawks Live 1966 CD (100%RZ) CBS finally got around to releasing it in the UK! Only 32 years wait! First impressions of the electric album are that the sound is strikingly good for a 1966 live recording. The accompanying booklet says that it was originally recorded on a 3-track machine, with vocals and guitars mixed down on to track 1, bass and drums on track 2 and both keyboards on track 3. Apart from Robbie Robertson's stunning guitar fills, which I knew about from the old bootleg LP, the real revelation is the organ-playing of Garth Hudson, which provides a thick chunky blanket of middle and mid-bass where most sixties groups just have a large hole. The only disadvantage of this is that the organ often drowns out Richard Manuel's keyboard (presumably an electric piano of some kind): you can just about hear the piano tinkling along on 'Leopardskin Pillbox Hat', which comes through as one of the sharpest of the band's performances. Other good tracks are the opener, 'Tell me mama', 'Baby let me follow you down', 'One too many mornings', and a complete killer version of 'Ballad of a Thin Man' (which follows the infamous 'Judas' episode). Something very strange happens after BoaTM: where my old LP powers fairly rapidly into 'Like a Rolling Stone', there is a strange chunk of silence on the CD, which is in odd contrast to the noisy reception afforded to all the preceding numbers. I think there may have been something in the booklet about a switch of tape machines to a desk feed which didn't pick the audience up - it sounds very peculiar, anyway. Fortunately the performance of 'LaRS' is so solid that this listener was soon back at the previous gawping amazement level. And what's this? Another chunk of silence at the end of the song, followed by the first few bars of - it can't be - but yes it is! - a tinny old recording of the National Anthem, as played at the end of all UK performances back in the dim distant past. The notes confirm that the recording is actually from the Manchester Free Trade Hall concert, not from the later Albert Hall gig. There are one or two numbers where I suspect the CD has selected takes which are just slightly different from the ones I am familiar with. It might only be the remix, but there were definitely a couple of guitar figures which sounded a trifle changed. I wonder if they have patched in a Liverpool or a Sheffield performance occasionally? Oh well, it wouldn't be Dylan if there wasn't a soupcon of mystique somewhere. As far as the barracking goes, a friend of mine who attended the Albert Hall performance said that the audience was by no means totally agin the band. There were apparently rival groups booing and cheering and sometimes arguing with each other, while the majority of the audience was fairly neutral. Wish I'd been there, but I was in the middle of A-levels... It is a great shame that the luxury accompanying booklet, which features stacks of Dylan photos, does not include any shots of the Hawks. There are one and a half pics of Dylan which also feature Robertson, and a backstage shot of Dylan and Manuel, but no photos whatsoever of Garth Hudson, Rick Danko or Micky Jones(?) (the drummer for the European leg of the tour). The only band photo is, bizarrely, the Butterfield Blues band, who played with Dylan at an earlier gig at the Newport Folk Festival. Balancing like a suitcase on a bottle of wine, - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:45:31 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: I don't know, ran across this clipping tonight... (100% RH) oops. only sent it to Susan. >This has always bugged the shit out of me. >I for one am sort of a natural surrealist. I wish I had a nickel for every >time someone told me "you sound like an acid head". When I note that I've >never done any psychedelic drug and have no wish to, people take that as >some kind of Nancy Reaganish thang. Really it's that I feel a bit >defensive- it's damn annoying to constantly have people suggest that >anything in my brain that isn't plain and mundane must necessarily have >come from a chemical source. Yea verily, sister Dodge. Because of my hair and general wierdness, people always feel obliged to make acid comments to me. I must admit posessing a considerable amount of curiosity about psychedelics- but at the same time, the movie in here is pretty incredible without them, and I really don't want to devalue my own natural show. I feel that it is really beneficial to me to treat substances with a great deal of respect. This sometimes causes others to suddenly assume that I am a Quaker or a Mormon or something. Hell, I treat those substances with too much respect to let them inside me. >I'm not knocking acid explorations but I do wish that people would quit >attributing any kind of fantastic or imaginative thought to chemicals. >There is such a thing as having an imagination, you know. Imagination frightens those that don't have it. I've had long discussions with people who couldn't visualize things without seeing them physically. Almost invariably they will ask me if it takes drugs to be able to do that. On the other hand, the creative, visualizing, weirdos have a tough go of it in the non-creative world. The poor bastards who have too much imaginations can't really hack it in the "real" world of business. Those who have it, must find havens where that is allowed (artists, musicians, radio, writing, employees of Apple Computer...), those of us who have caused themselves to get stuck elsewhere have to be able to do the mundane extremely accurately, and hold a tight reign on our creative sides to avoid providing ammunition to our jealous detractors. Yea. I know. Sounds like the paranoid ramblings of Dale Grible. This is purely my experience. Sometimes the challenge to function in the real world with a giant "freako" sign on my head is rather interesting, and makes for humorous internal dialog, which might sound mean and elitist if I let it out. Who knows, maybe even crabby. ;-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Private encoded message for Jeme, which only he can read: Cappucin, where's the damn travelogue? It was the whole reason we wanted you to visit. You don't think it was your company, do you? I feel desperately ripped off, you crabby, elitist, nose magnet, you. Am I going to have to sick Eddie and Eb on you? There are some adhesives with your name on them, and I know what you fear more than adhesives, bucko. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ happies, - -sharkboy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:54:57 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: The King is dead ... >Will famous people ever stop dying? > well as K said to J, "Elvis isn't dead, he just went home." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:05:26 -0400 From: "Chaney, Dolph L" Subject: RE: I don't know, ran across this clipping tonight... (100% RH) Echoing barkshoy and Susan somewhat, I always hate the "wow! you're like all tripped out, maaaaaaaan!" thing about being imaginative, too. It can get even more teeth-grating when, like me, one happens to also be a member of a notoriously conservative Christian denomination (people who forget that Jesus was known to do pretty surreal things, often involving fish and dead people, and to go off telling wild, allegorical stories in the middle of his sermons, etc.). But hey. Enough of my yakkin'. Whaddaya say? Let's do the chisel! Dolph p.s.: my CD has been sent to the manufacturer and will be ready by Thanksgiving! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:19:19 -0500 (CDT) From: JH3 Subject: Big Mac Attack Fegs... I guess Eb didn't know about the undocumented "hidden feature" of System 8, where as soon as you install it the OS searches your hard drive for negative comments about the Grateful Dead, and if it finds any, wipes out the TCP/IP drivers? Still, I guess it's his own fault for not recognizing the new "Welcome to Macintosh" sound as the opening chord from the April 21, 1992 Hampton Coliseum live version of "Hashish Blues," sampled from an original DAT recorded at section 12, row 23... So then Mark Gloster wrote: >Sometimes the challenge to function in the real world >with a giant "freako" sign on my head is rather interesting, >and makes for humorous internal dialog, which might sound >mean and elitist if I let it out. I doubt THAT! When I used to wear one of those, the only thing going through my head was "Dammit, the neck strain caused by the weight of this giant sign on my head is almost unbearable, but I STILL refuse to go to a chiropractor." When I finally moved the sign down over my ass I was much happier, except that the weird looks started coming from a completely different group of people... John H. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:50:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: I don't know, ran across this clipping tonight... (100% RH) On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, amadain wrote: > This has always bugged the shit out of me. yes! in particular, if i read one more review that describes something as being some other band "on acid" (the lyrics have three-syllable words and don't rhyme girl/world and love/thinking-of), "on speed" (music is fast) or "on crack" (performers are audibly enthusiastic about playing), i will scream. what's worse is the bizarre belief on the part of potheads that anything good was also created by potheads. (yeah, i know, the Onion made fun of this a few weeks ago.) someone i know told me yesterday that Lipstick Traces must have been written while high. i mean, maybe it was, but why have i never met any of these people that become brilliant and creative when stoned? the only heightened ability pot gives any of my friends is the ability to beat me at cards. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 98 11:10:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: re: The King is dead Ross asks: >Will famous people ever stop dying? They're working on that. Projections are that by the year 2195 the earth will be populated mostly by famous people. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 98 11:15:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: "albert hall" CD (100% Dylan) >As far as the barracking goes, a friend of mine who attended the Albert >Hall performance said that the audience was by no means totally agin the >band. There were apparently rival groups booing and cheering and sometimes >arguing with each other, while the majority of the audience was fairly >neutral. I think that comes across on the CD. I sensed that anyway. You can't hear all the hoots, but I had a feeling some of the cheers that erupted were in responce to a "shut up" or two. Personally, I think the acoustic disc is one of the best CD's I own. Compared to, say, his Bangla Desh performance this one is just an out and out fantastic show. And yes, I too was amazed at the sound quality considering the year. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 98 11:27:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: deep purple question Any of you music braniax know who the "stupid with a flare gun" who "Burned the place to the ground" is supposed to be? - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 98 14:17:07 EDT From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: I don't know, ran across this clipping tonight... (100% RH) It's not necessarily true, but it's completely understandable if you have a look at the development of pop in the '60s. It wasn't universally true then either. The exploration of drug induced states was often coincident with creative exploration, (not necessarily caused by it) but there was enough of a correlation for it to stick. I'm not perplexed by this. All the best polkas were written under the influence of Doppelbock. ...Frankie! Frankie!!! - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:45:41 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Big Mac Attack (no Texan content) JH3: >I guess Eb didn't know about the undocumented "hidden feature" of System 8, >where as soon as you install it the OS searches your hard drive for negative >comments about the Grateful Dead, and if it finds any, wipes out the TCP/IP >drivers? > >Still, I guess it's his own fault for not recognizing the new "Welcome to >Macintosh" sound as the opening chord from the April 21, 1992 Hampton >Coliseum live version of "Hashish Blues," sampled from an original DAT >recorded at section 12, row 23... Well, I finally did get the damn thing working last night (thanks much for your tender concern, Tom). I got some bad advice about what/what not to install, and it took me some web research on an outside computer to figure that this previously reliable person had been wrong. Or to get specific, I didn't think Open Transport and FreePPP could co-exist peacefully -- I thought it was an either/or deal, so I was trying too hard to work around Open Transport. Took me awhile to figure out that this was a goof. I must note that I'm unhappy with one thing: When I'm typing while online (like right now), there's a very discernable slowdown in how fast the characters appear onscreen after I type them. I feel like I'm typing underwater, if you know what I mean. :( This week's dis: "Felicity." Can we add this to the earlier "unwatchable hits" tv list? Off to see the PJ Harvey in-store appearance and then Air tonight, Eb PS Sounds like section 9, row 28 to me. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:47:25 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: I know this clipping tonight... (100% RH) Aaron: >yes! in particular, if i read one more review that describes something as >being some other band "on acid" (the lyrics have three-syllable words and >don't rhyme girl/world and love/thinking-of), "on speed" (music is fast) >or "on crack" (performers are audibly enthusiastic about playing), i will >scream. OH yes. This is a major pet peeve of mine. And please, let's NOT forget "on steroids"!!! Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:51:27 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: The sensational Hawks Live 196 Godwin: >Other good tracks are the opener, 'Tell me mama', 'Baby let me follow you >down', 'One too many mornings', and a complete killer version of 'Ballad >of a Thin Man' (which follows the infamous 'Judas' episode). Something >very strange happens after BoaTM: where my old LP powers fairly rapidly >into 'Like a Rolling Stone', there is a strange chunk of silence on the >CD, which is in odd contrast to the noisy reception afforded to all the >preceding numbers. Huh? "Like a Rolling Stone" follows the "infamous Judas episode," not "Ballad of a Thin Man." Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:02:31 -0700 From: Jason Thornton Subject: Re: Big Mac Attack (no Texan content) At 11:45 AM 10/15/98 -0700, Eb wrote: >This week's dis: "Felicity." Can we add this to the earlier "unwatchable >hits" tv list? I. Is it just me, or does every other new drama on TV have this whole wannabe "Party of 5" vibe to it? II. Yes, I just used the word "wannabe" in a sentence. - --Jason "numbering my paragraphs just like Robert Fripp" Thornton ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 98 12:13:25 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Big Mac Attack (no Texan content) Eb: >Well, I finally did get the damn thing working last night (thanks much for >your tender concern, Tom). I got some bad advice about what/what not to >install, and it took me some web research on an outside computer to figure >that this previously reliable person had been wrong. Or to get specific, I >didn't think Open Transport and FreePPP could co-exist peacefully -- I >thought it was an either/or deal, so I was trying too hard to work around >Open Transport. Took me awhile to figure out that this was a goof. > >I must note that I'm unhappy with one thing: When I'm typing while online >(like right now), there's a very discernable slowdown in how fast the >characters appear onscreen after I type them. I feel like I'm typing >underwater, if you know what I mean. :( I must confess I don't know what the issue is here. I'm "working from home" today and all of last night's emails are on my machine at work. Sorry for not being there when you needed me. - -tc "Typing like a software engineer with a hangover" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:03:38 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Imagination and substance (zed RH) >It's not necessarily true, but it's completely understandable if you >have a look at the development of pop in the '60s. I know you mean well Ross, but with statements like the above you unintentionally indulge the Boomers in their delusion that they invented everything. I regret to be the one to have to tell them that actually there was a long tradition of artists, both "highbrow" AND "popular", who believed they wrote/painted/acted/played better and more visionarily due to substance use (I know, it's an awkward word, but you know what I mean) WAY before 19 hundred and sixty five. The words "Laudanum" and "absinthe" come to mind. Also "tea", a term in common use in jazz circles long before the Beatles picked it up :). >It wasn't universally true then either. The exploration of drug induced >states was >often coincident with creative exploration, (not necessarily >caused by it) That's the nail on the head, I believe, right there. >I'm not perplexed by this. I am. Well, not perplexed exactly, but dismayed. I think it's a cause and effect mistake of tremendous proportions. And it's caused a lot of damage as well as silliness over the years (all those people shooting up because they thought it would make them play like Bill Evans come to mind here). Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:51:50 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: I don't know, ran across this clipping tonight... (100% RH) >On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, amadain wrote: > >> This has always bugged the shit out of me. > >yes! in particular, if i read one more review that describes something as >being some other band "on acid" (the lyrics have three-syllable words and >don't rhyme girl/world and love/thinking-of), OK, I hadn't been thinking of this, but now that you mention it, this is part and parcel of the same thing. And it is also vastly annoying because it's not only stupid and innacurate, it's LAZY. Gee, why not just tack on "on acid" instead of thinking of ways to -accurately- describe the person? It doesn't even have to be the lyrics that get you tagged with the "on acid" moniker. Elvis Costello got tagged with "Buddy Holly on Acid" mostly because he had nerdy glasses but wasn't very like Buddy Holly in any other way. Either those pundits had too little imagination or far too much. >i mean, maybe it was, but why have i never met any of these people that >become >brilliant and creative when stoned? the only heightened ability >pot gives any I haven't noticed any heightened ability other than a heightened ability to consume Cheeseballs and microwave popcorn. I've heard a lot of silly claims from people I know but I have not seen these people produce anything while high. I'll take this argument one step further and say straight up what Aaron drily implied- it's a crock, basically. I haven't even seen the card-playing ability :). Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:56:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber Subject: Richard Thomson Tix... Hey, y'all, I have two tickets to Sunday's High Sierra Festival featuring Richard Thompson in Novato, CA that I cannot use. If anyone wants them, let me know. The face value is $24 ea -- they can be yours for the price of either a COD on an overnight letter, or gas money for me to drop them off in the Bay Area on Saturday. Email me by tomorrow a.m. please. - -g- - ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- Glen Uber uberg@sonic.net "Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible." --Frank Zappa - ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:57:22 EDT From: Briannupp@aol.com Subject: Re: The King is dead ... No. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #388 *******************************