From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #386 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, October 13 1998 Volume 07 : Number 386 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Fegparty [amadain ] Artists (not musical) [Terrence M Marks ] Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?In_Schwimmen-zwei-V=F6gel?= [Stewart Russell 3295 Anal] Re: Artists (not musical) [Tom Clark ] tour dates ["Capitalism Blows" ] i *always* fuck this up! ["Capitalism Blows" ] hulkamania? :-)? [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] trash [Russ Reynolds ] Re: tour dates [Tom Clark ] dare I say WHEE? [Eb ] Re: tour dates [Russ Reynolds ] Re: dare I say WHEE? [Ben ] Re: tour dates [Ben ] Re: trash [Capuchin ] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [jeffery vaska ] Re: trash [Bayard ] newbie [derek fitz ] Re: where was I? ["Capitalism Blows" ] blues in the dark tab [pauly on the shore ] Re: tour dates [Ethyl Ketone ] Re: tour dates [Tom Clark ] beats me [Eb ] oh, wait [Eb ] back again [Eb ] tugging at the heartstrings? [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Di] Re: oh, wait ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: tugging at the heartstrings? [Michael R Godwin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:13:34 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Fegparty Since I've been fielding some questions, I figured I'd make an official public statement :). The details: October 17th, this Friday. Late afternoon/early evening. I'm thinking of starting around 6 or so (dinner) but of course that will depend somewhat on when people begin to get in. You won't be turned away if you arrive before then :). As for the ending time well, we'll cross that bridge after we jump across it. Anyone who hasn't responded definitively should, er, think about doing that, so I can know approximately how much food/beer to have on hand (so far I know of 4 definite attendees). Also if you need directions, write and tell me. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 01:09:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Artists (not musical) As I may have told you-all, I've started writing a comic strip. Unfortunately, I have no artistic skill and have decided, Adam Smith-style to get someone else to do the drawing. Advertisements in my local area have had no effect, so I've decided to expand my search to the internet. I've got no idea where to look. If any of you know where said artists are likely to congregate (or happen to be one of those sort of artists), please let me know. THanks. ObRobyn: Umm...prawns? Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:55:13 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?In_Schwimmen-zwei-V=F6gel?= >>>>> "Jesse" == Jesse Walker writes: Jesse> The "theater group" is probably a reference to Hugh Kenner, Jesse> whose play *When the Saints Go Cycling In* (or some title Jesse> like that) was based on *The Dalkey Archive*. Or possibly even Ridiculusmus, a three-man troupe from Derry, Northern Ireland, who have done The Third Policeman and At Swim-Two-Birds (the latter involved much ketchup). They also do adaptations of Gogol and the much-underrated G.V. Desani (The Life of H. Hatterr). - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:46:53 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Artists (not musical) On 10/11/98 10:09 PM, Terrence M Marks wrote: >ObRobyn: Umm...prawns? Uh...down by the sea? - -tc p.s. Had a dream about attending the NYC Storefront premier. Unfortunately, it quickly turned into a computer industry tradeshow. I'm cursed... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:20:51 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: tour dates i'm asking a favor here. if that rubs any of you the correct way, then please read on! if anybody has any concert t-shirts with tour dates printed on them, could you check and see if there are any listed that i don't have listed on my fledgling giglist, and let me know? that'd be super duper! i've got the driving aloud tour t-shirt, so you don't have to worry about that one. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:40:21 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: i *always* fuck this up! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 22:35:56 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: hulkamania? :-)? On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:09:49 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: >Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:37:47 PDT >From: "Capitalism Blows" >Subject: Re: Doug > ><> and who spends all his free time watching Doug. a god, i tells ya! > >He also watches Cops, professional wrestling, and Jerry Springer.> > >that clinches it, then. maybe not just *a* god, but quite possibly >*the* god. although i gave up professional wrestling cold turkey the >moment that Hulk Hogan defeated Kamala the Ugandan Headhunter. yes, >until that moment, there had been the faintest hope in my heart that the >sport was *not* rigged like everybody had always said. that truth, >justice, the american way, and all that other crap would eventually >prevail when tested inside the squared circle. i don't know if i ever >looked forward to anything so much as i looked forward to that match. i >imagine it goes without saying that its result had a profound effect on >my belief system. >HOWEVER, i still respect those people that dig professional wrestling, >even though i'm no longer among their number. man, i feel like going >and watching Barton Fink now! >\ Well, I am among that number, and Hogan keeps on going, providing a VERY strong arguement for forced retirement. He now brags about his "movie carrer"- his last flick was a "three ninjas" sequal co-staring with Loni Anderson and the "hEY vERn!" commercial guy. ` To quote RH: "your just trash, and a loser." Now return you to regularly scheduled Robyn-talk. :-) - When is the electric "1974" going to be released? -luther ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 98 15:58:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: trash > To quote RH: "your just trash, and a loser." I'm pretty sure he said that with an apostrophe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:57:03 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: tour dates RE: Eddie's gig page >04/01/88 RH The Rat, Boston That was at The Paradise. (My first RH show) So, am I to assume The Soft Boys never played a gig in the US? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:11:52 -0700 From: Eb Subject: dare I say WHEE? There's not much point in raving about it because it's so well-known already, but the new Bob Dylan/Live 1966 two-disc set is absolutely *staggering*. Probably among my favorite 25 releases *ever*. You know how I raved about Neutral Milk Hotel and Rufus Wainwright? Well, this is two or three levels better than either of those. BUY IT. And yeah, I do own a bootleg record of the electric set, already. One of about eight bootlegs I've ever owned. But hearing it on CD...whew. And the acoustic disc is just as spellbinding. Eb np: Bob Dylan/Live 1966: The "Royal Albert Hall" concert (*19*/20) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 98 16:18:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Re: tour dates ======== Original Message ======== RE: Eddie's gig page >04/01/88 RH The Rat, Boston That was at The Paradise. (My first RH show) So, am I to assume The Soft Boys never played a gig in the US? - -tc ======== Fwd by: Russ Reynolds ======== they payed a handfull of dates in New York in the summer of 1980. I know they played somewhere called Club Eighties, and someone else recently posted they had a tape from some other club during the series of gigs...nobody seems to know exact dates though. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:32:21 -0400 From: Ben Subject: Re: dare I say WHEE? Eb wrote: > There's not much point in raving about it because it's so well-known > already, but the new Bob Dylan/Live 1966 two-disc set is absolutely > *staggering*. Probably among my favorite 25 releases *ever*. You know how I > raved about Neutral Milk Hotel and Rufus Wainwright? Well, this is two or > three levels better than either of those. > > BUY IT. > > And yeah, I do own a bootleg record of the electric set, already. One of > about eight bootlegs I've ever owned. But hearing it on CD...whew. And the > acoustic disc is just as spellbinding. > > Eb > > np: Bob Dylan/Live 1966: The "Royal Albert Hall" concert (*19*/20) I have a pristine tape containing both the sets, and yes the show deserves all the accolades it has recieved over the years. Probably the best concert I've ever heard, and he doesn't even do a "Dark Star"!!! :). But should I spend the $25 on this or something I haven't heard? Also, considering I'd give my Maxell analog tape of the show *at least* a 21/20, I have to ask: which albums (if any) have pulled a Mary Lou Retton in the Eb-Rockolympics and scored a perfect 20/20? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:36:08 -0400 From: Ben Subject: Re: tour dates Doesn't the booklet to "1976-81" mention something about the Soft Boys playing in New York around 1980? Tom Clark wrote: > RE: Eddie's gig page > > >04/01/88 RH The Rat, Boston > > That was at The Paradise. (My first RH show) > > So, am I to assume The Soft Boys never played a gig in the US? > > -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:08:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: trash On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Russ Reynolds wrote: > > To quote RH: "your just trash, and a loser." > I'm pretty sure he said that with an apostrophe And with an e. > they payed a handfull of dates in New York in the summer of 1980. Well, they were PAID a HANDFUL of dates in New York in the summer of 1980 to PLAY a HANDFUL of gigs. Wasn't one at Maxwell's? J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:12:45 -0700 (PDT) From: jeffery vaska Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: hey fegz, been out of touch completely. is there any word about the robyn movie coming to seattle? new albums? i'd try to read through the some 800 or so fegmails but... is there anything i should know besides the usual Eb is being a jerk, woj is always just right, the new zealand guy is on autoGenius pilot, etc. email me on or off... ciao...jeffery vaska ps: for what it's worth i've been rocking out to billy bragg more than robyn lately... _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 20:20:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: trash On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Capuchin wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Russ Reynolds wrote: > > > To quote RH: "your just trash, and a loser." > > I'm pretty sure he said that with an apostrophe > > And with an e. And isn't it ".... and YOU'RE a loser?" Pedantry aside, maybe this is a new interpretation - your just trash. meaning, 'Your righteous trash?' Sorry. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:39:09 -0700 (PDT) From: derek fitz Subject: newbie Hi, I'm new to the list and was looking for someone who would either trade/sell the import (Midnight Music, etc.) CD version of I Often Dream of Trains. I have plenty of Hitchcock audio/video to trade. Please e-mail privately. Thanks. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:40:23 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: where was I? well, let's see... - --eb dissed a glasses fetishist really bad, causing him to unsub after only about three days on the list. - --eb dissed STOREFRONT HITCHCOCK really bad, causing woj to issue a sternly worded admonition. - --eb dissed my rekkid collection really bad, causing me to lie awake nights wishing my parents had used more effective contraception. - --eb dissed commander lang really bad for putting his grateful dead bootlist online. - --eb dissed terry really bad for constructing a flowchart demonstrating that each and every song ever recorded is a cheap monkees ripoff. (the thing is, that flowchart was actually pretty convincing, in my opinion.) - --eb dissed hedges really bad for schoolmarming. - --eb dissed capuch'n really bad for being elitist. - --eb dissed godwin really bad for misspelling Foxey Lady. - --eb dissed ben really bad on "general principle." - --eb dissed woj really bad for only listening to lilith fair artists. - --eb dissed his advance promo copy of GLASS FLESH II really bad, causing bayard to break down and cry. - --tori fans are *still* talking about masturbation. ...that's probably about it, i guess. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 20:49:27 -0400 From: pauly on the shore Subject: blues in the dark tab fegs, attention guitar weenies! any comments? feel free to cc chris on any responses. woj >To: woj@remus.rutgers.edu >From: "Chris Ball" >Subject: Tabs >Date: Mon, 12 Oct 98 03:17:43 PDT > >Dear Woj, > > I have a Tab fro a soft boys song, "Blues in the Dark" which isn't on your listing. I tabbed it myself and was wondering if you would like to include it with the other Tabs. > >I'm sending it as a txt file atachment. > >Sincerly, > >Chris L. Ball >email ballhome@mako.com >Blues in the Dark >The Soft Boys - "Invisible Hits" > >transcribed by Chris L. Ball > >G D >Your Eyelids made of Silver, >G C >Your Elbows made of Gold, >G F >is your Heart all black and empty, >C G >like a crater to behold, > >and your feet, made out of nothing, >as they dance across the plain, >thier swifter than an Orange, >that unfurls inside a drain, > >Chorus #1 >D C G F C G >Your front Door and my old Face, >D C G F C G >watch them sinking without trace, >c D >without trace, > >G G (no words) > >Verse #2 > >come inside my little Sparrow, >let me feed you to my Soul, >you are writhing in the Furnace, >of the Luxury you stole, > >come ye fair and tender Creature, >oh whatever be your trade, >lie across the tattoed Carpet, >and prepare to lick the Blade, > >Chorus #2 > >Your old Face and my front Door, >watch them fake War never more, >ever more, > >Verse #3 > >No I'll never understand you, >thats just not what people do, >they can fight and they can Dribble, >till thier Memmories are through, > >and I don't know why I came here, >but I'll know it when I'm gone, >because Tonight you look so useless, >go on baby call me wrong, > >Chorus #3 > >Your the One I left you for, >I don't love you anymore, >anymore. > >outro: > >G D F C G > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 18:18:28 -0700 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: Re: tour dates At 3.57 PM -0700 10/12/98, Tom Clark wrote: >That was at The Paradise. (My first RH show) Wait now, was that the Paradise show with about 40 people and we just sat around on the floor while he played? The encore was "A Day In The LIfe" and it was a Monday night. This was after a Friday or Saturday gig at Slim's???? I went after seeing a flyer on a telephone pole on Haight "Robyn, Tonight, The Paradise Lounge". Nice show. Be seeing you, - - Carrie "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** M.E.Ketone/C.Galbraith meketone@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 18:28:48 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: tour dates On 10/12/98 6:18 PM, Ethyl Ketone wrote: >At 3.57 PM -0700 10/12/98, Tom Clark wrote: >>That was at The Paradise. (My first RH show) > >Wait now, was that the Paradise show with about 40 people and we just sat >around on the floor while he played? The encore was "A Day In The LIfe" and >it was a Monday night. This was after a Friday or Saturday gig at >Slim's???? I went after seeing a flyer on a telephone pole on Haight >"Robyn, Tonight, The Paradise Lounge". >Nice show. >Be seeing you, >- Carrie Same venue, different city. Boston, 4/1/88. GOF Tour w/ Peter Buck. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 18:57:38 -0700 From: Eb Subject: beats me http://www.denibonet.com/news/index.html Here, Deni links to www.fegmaniax.org, instead of www.fegmania.org. You know, I can't say that I blame her -- this distinction has always been trickier than it should be. Hey, can someone tell me EXACTLY the venue where Storefront Hitchcock was filmed? Name, type of business? Restaurant, what? Dissin' Eb np: ehhh, websearch for it ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:00:47 -0700 From: Eb Subject: oh, wait Found a Robyn quote on the Web which says SH was filmed at "an abandoned used clothing store" -- true? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:09:31 -0700 From: Eb Subject: back again I should've mentioned in the last post that I found the "abandoned used clothing store" quote at http://www.weeklywire.com/ww/03-16-98/austin_screens_feature2.html. A quite good Robyn interview feature, in case you haven't come across it yet. Doesn't seem to be linked at www.fegmaniacks.org.... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:37:48 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: tugging at the heartstrings? >Regarding whether Robyn's music touches the heart or not. >I was thinking about how melancholy some of Robyn's acoustic music is just >yesterday. I was listening to a solo set which I can't identify, but which >had so many songs which evoked strong moods. I'm surrounded by illness at >the moment in my family and have been feeling very down this past week or >so. Yesterday I was really depressed, as my wife's mother is dying after a >long illness. Many of Robyn's songs either uplifted me or empathized with >my melancholy to such an extent that I had to play another tape as I was >getting too down for my liking. On another occasion of course , the music >might affect me differently .I'm frequently moved both intellectually AND >emotionally by his music depending on my mood. melancholy. Yes, good word. The word wistful often comes to mind for me, but there's an occasional bitter overtone, too. My heart is frequently moved by Robyn's music and, more often, his lyrics. If you are not moved and or heartwrenched by at least some of the following., then your cold exterior masks a heart of solid granite: * "Glass Hotel" * "I often Dream of Trains" * "She doesn't exist" * "One long pair of eyes" * "Queen Elvis" (the song) *Flavour of Night" * most of "Respect" ("The wreck of the Arthur Lee", "Then you're dust" and "Railway shoes" in particular) * "Cynthia Mask" (especially the "I'll reach your lungs" verse) * "Heliotrope" * "Autumn is your last chance" * "Birdshead" * "August Hair" * "September Cones" * "Never stops bleeding" sure, a lot of them hit the brain as well as the heart in a one-wo punch, and in a lot of cases the songs are heartaching for the regret or sadness at loss, but to accuse Robyn of not hitting the heart is way off the mark. Thought for today: I'd love to hear "My favourite buildings" arranged with bongos a la "And I love her" by the Beatles. It already sounds like a warped Hard Day's Night out-take. Or did Robyn burn his bongos? James (whose latest painting is called "Raining twilight coast") James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 20:10:55 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: oh, wait thanks tom! (and the others who mailed me offlist.) this is *exactly* the type of thing i'm looking for. i trust the memories of fegs way more than most any other source. of course, if you've got t-shirts (or ticket stubs) to back up your memory, so much the better. jeme's right. they did play at least once at maxwell's. there was some robyn quote somewhere about how they just made it over here for a few dates right before they broke up. at any rate, don't assume ANYTHING from reading that list. there are bound to be lots of errors and omissions. i mentioned before that i've confirmed a few of them in the microfiche room, but not very many at all. yeah. something like that. on the gigs page, i just put "storefront, manhattan." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:03:12 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: tugging at the heartstrings? On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, James Dignan wrote: > melancholy. Yes, good word. The word wistful often comes to mind for me, > but there's an occasional bitter overtone, too. MRG: I read this far and thought "He's going to forget 'September Cones' " > My heart is frequently > moved by Robyn's music and, more often, his lyrics. If you are not moved > and or heartwrenched by at least some of the following., then your cold > exterior masks a heart of solid granite: > > * "Glass Hotel" > * "I often Dream of Trains" > * "She doesn't exist" > * "One long pair of eyes" > * "Queen Elvis" (the song) > *Flavour of Night" > * most of "Respect" ("The wreck of the Arthur Lee", "Then you're dust" and > "Railway shoes" in particular) MRG: I read this far and thought "He _has_ forgotten 'September Cones' " > * "Cynthia Mask" (especially the "I'll reach your lungs" verse) > * "Heliotrope" > * "Autumn is your last chance" > * "Birdshead" > * "August Hair" > * "September Cones" MRG: Phew! That was a near thing! Almost the last item on the list. > * "Never stops bleeding" *stop* I think. I totally agree with everything James said in this post. - - Mike G. PS Do 'Heliotrope' and 'Birdshead' share the same strange (possibly re-entrant) tuning? The last time I heard RH play 'Heliotrope' I was misled by the intro into thinking it was going to be 'Birdshead'... ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #386 *******************************