From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #373 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, September 30 1998 Volume 07 : Number 373 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Postsucking Freaks! [The Great Quail ] Re: freaks and EC... [Eb ] Re: freaks and EC (and yet surprisingly, no COSTELLO-L content) [Zloduska] Re: freaks and EC... [Christy Cohen ] Few and Far Between [Terrence M Marks ] Re: Jazz Butcher, Pere Ubu, Blue Aeroplanes, The Fall [fred is ted ] Re: freaks and EC... [Zloduska ] Re: freaks and EC... [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Subject: Re: two words: ecoli bacteria... [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac] Re: freaks and EC... [Capuchin ] Re: freaks and EC... ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: freaks and EC... [amadain ] Re: freaks and EC... [InPerspex@aol.com] Re: freaks and EC... [amadain ] Re: freaks and EC...ashes for my head [amadain ] hppy bithdy [Natalie Jacobs ] Hark [Gregory Stuart Shell ] DB: Smartie Mine will see the light!!!! [Lobsterman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Sep 98 17:29:22 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Postsucking Freaks! >> >On a tip from Bayard, I went to DejaNews and typed in my email >> >address. I was only somewhat amused to find one single entry: apparently >> >a post of mine got reposted on the alt.freaks group. Hmm. > >I'm not positive, Quail, but I believe it was Jahweh "Dave" Lynch that >did that. We plead innocent on this charge. Fegs and Feg Lurkers -- I was amused rather than annoyed at my post showing up on Ye Olde Freake Lyst. It's perfectly ok; I don't share Eb's annoyance. (AT *this,* that is. I do share Eb's annoyance over the Grateful Dead, Tool, Feg Parties, and Quailspew.) So no need to apologize; I was even forewarned that my "Gong Palmer" post had been passed along somewhere else. I was just amused to see that my email address only came up at one single place . . . alt.freaks. Hmm. Now, back to your regularly scheduled Elvis Costello reviews. . . . - --Quail PS: Glen Uber? Are you there? Email me privately, I canna find yer addy. +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:38:05 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: freaks and EC... JH3: >Hey, I forward stuff from this listserv to >alt.your.brain.must.be.destroyed all the time. >Some of those threads go on for weeks! > >So, is this a bad thing to do? Don't tell me >we're turning into MACCA-L here... I said that it didn't really bother me. But yes, poor etiquette. Especially given that no one knew about the reposts until now, and given that the reposting parties (not including you) are basically "lurkers." It seems a bit more creepy, that way. And for me personally, there's another issue in play here. But I'm not going to bring it up in this environment. Regards, Eb Not a humorless Rhetoric-spewing Android ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:41:43 -0500 From: Zloduska Subject: Re: freaks and EC (and yet surprisingly, no COSTELLO-L content) Eb wrote: >Quail: >>On a tip from Bayard, I went to DejaNews and typed in my email >>address. I was only somewhat amused to find one single entry: apparently >>a post of mine got reposted on the alt.freaks group. Hmm. Dave Lynch did it! It was him! Besides, you already knew this, because I personally emailed you about your little "cameo" and told you to check it out. >Funny you should mention this, because I recently discovered that >alt.freaks is also reposting/discussing a couple of MY posts. Yes Fegs, we >have two spies in our midst: Christy, aka "this bastard soul," and "The >Velvet Elvis." I guess this telling-tales-out-of-school doesn't exactly >bother me, but it does seem like bad form, somehow. Ben's post about the >Fall was also mentioned. Ah HEM. May I interject? Actually....it was The Velvet Elvis that posted **first** about Damo Suzuki, The Fall, and the album "The Nation's Saving Grace". By some odd coincidence, the day after, Eb posted about Damo Suzuki and Ben about the Fall. TVE and This Bastard Soul can hardly be held accountable for yet another galactic coinkydink; things just happen this way. Fegmaniax was metioned because of the eerie symmetry it had with alt.freaks at the time. It all involved some sex spam you see...original posts: >Thus spake April: >>On 19 Sep 1998, B.J. Buckley wrote: >>> I'm a gay guy, 34 years old, 6'0, 165#, blue eyes, red hair, 8" >>>thick cut cock w/mushroom head, [...] > >>My mind keeps trying to picture the "mushroom head". > >Hey, I say this guy is really DAMO SUZUKI!!! Tripping balls, of course, but >granted it's him. > >~Velvet Elvis >[Dave Lynch wrote] >He's obviously an old-time Can fan. Doesn't Damo Suzuki sing about "mushroom >heads" on Tago Mago? >Incidentally, in a startling twist of synchronicity, alt.freaks has a heavy >subscriber overlap with those babbling twits in alt.music.pink-floyd. Aha, >now it all becomes clear. Babbling twits? Inviting Denise on alt.freaks is the LAST thing we'd want to do! >If you're talking about the Letterman appearance, I saw Elvis and nothing >else. I was up in LA seeing the Spinanes (), and sped home way too >fast in order to be in time for the Costello/Bacharach appearance. The Spinanes recently played at my college campus. I thought it was a good show, but I haven't ran out to by the new album yet. I did really like their opening song tho'. >Eb, nursing a Rebecca Gates crush Ah HA. Maybe that's why I didn't enjoy it nearly so much, however I thought R.G. was very personable and had a good stage presence. ~kjs "I think, therefore I am a rhubarb tart." np: the new 'Califone' ep. I bought it at a show they did here a couple weeks ago. Surprisingly, I was very disappointed in them live this time, but I love the cd. The first song "Christmas Tiger" I esp. enjoy. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:57:50 -0400 From: Christy Cohen Subject: Re: freaks and EC... Eb wrote: > I said that it didn't really bother me. But yes, poor etiquette. Well, I've already apologized for that. I'll say it again. I'm sorry. I know of three other people for certain who were interested in knowing about Damo Suzuki playing that night, and I didn't mean to cross any lines by repeating the information. > Especially > given that no one knew about the reposts until now, and given that the > reposting parties (not including you) are basically "lurkers." It seems a > bit more creepy, that way. I didn't mean to be "creepy", either. It's true that I tend to lurk on this list more than others, for no particular reason - I like fegmaniax a lot. I supposed I just enjoy reading it more than I have anything to contribute. I'm sorry if it disturbed you, or offended you. I've been on this list for two years, and I'm sorry to be introduced in such a light as to portray me as rude, or thoughtless, or creepy. Christy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:01:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Few and Far Between I've long since run out of relevant things to say. I recall a few Krazy Kat fans on this list. I've seen nearly every comic strip that there is. One, Few and Far Between (formerly The Noo Greak Kollum), I think, has a similar incomprehensible feel to it. It's at www.fewandfarbetween.com (Other things you-all ought to check out: Jeff Smith's "Bone" comic books and Pete Abram's "Sluggy Freelance" comic strip [www.sluggy.com]) np-The Beach Boys: In Concert Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:00:02 -0700 (PDT) From: fred is ted Subject: Re: Jazz Butcher, Pere Ubu, Blue Aeroplanes, The Fall Aaron> > and Eb> wrote: > I bet I own more out-of-print albums by the Jazz Butcher than> anyone else. Including Claudine. ;) > (Well, maybe I have more by Pere Ubu for now, but that's going to change as> Geffen gradually reissues them.) I was bummed when the Datapanik box set that came out last year skipped (among other goodies) the classic "Not Happy." Indeed. > >i like Pat Fish, but he has written a lot of music that goes nowhere> >without quite enough style to make the journey worth it. You've hit it on the head here, Aaron. I love Sex and Travel (it's an album title, people) as John H. River's production helps the sound match the wit of Fish's melodies and lyrics. Each cut on this album has a vivid personality of its own. The Gift of Music is a good compilation of good earlier JB stuff, (some/all?) produced by Rivers. While the basic ingredients from more recent JB efforts are ok, they just don't grab me. > >and he's buddies with the more consistent Blue Aeroplanes, whose records> >are only a little less sparse these days, at least in America. > On the other hand, the "more consistent" Blue Aeroplanes' best song ever> would rank in about the 60th percentile on the Jazz Butcher scale. For me, the only Blue Aeroplanes album is Swagger. A tour de force. Saw them on tour in support of Swagger. Do they still have "Dancin' Homer" doing his thing onstage? IIRC, I also saw the Jazz Butcher the same summer. Ahhh, the 9:30 Club... :) The Fall, huh. As with JB, happy hunting for the CDs indeed. Start w/GEMM. This Nation..., Wonderful and Frightening World and Extricate would be my main choices. For me, almost all their albums after Dragnet have something to offer. As for recent efforts, The Infotainment Scan has some very good covers (esp. Chic's "Lost in Music"). Simon Rogers produced two awesome cuts on Scan, "Glam-Racket" and "League Moon Monkey Mix." The latter is house music from heaven--a dozen good elements working in sync. If somebody familiar with this cut could tip me to similar works, I would be very appreciative. Middle Class Revolt was a big disappointment. Mark E. Smith has apparently fallen into alcoholism the past few years. A big loss. Wacky Fall Trivia: Jamie Gumm (the bad guy in Silence of the Lambs) spun "Hip Priest" in his bad bad basement. I felt queasy when I realized he also played a fave Colin Newman tune. Eeek. I have the assumed musical taste of a psycho killer (runrunrunrunrunrunrun away...). Six Degrees of RH: Andy Metcalf played on Peter Murphy's 1988 Love Hysteria. Simon Rogers produced this album, the Lightning Seeds discs, The Fall, and has remixed scads of dance tracks for prominent artists. Is there no musical act safe from the RH Conspiracy? First the Great Quail bids for global hegemony, then RH. Stop the insanity! Ted "Yeah, we get high on music" Kim Deal _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:12:28 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: freaks Zloduska: >TVE and This Bastard Soul can hardly be >held accountable for yet another galactic coinkydink; things just happen >this way. Fegmaniax was metioned because of the eerie symmetry it had with >alt.freaks at the time. Same diff, really. >>Incidentally, in a startling twist of synchronicity, alt.freaks has a heavy >>subscriber overlap with those babbling twits in alt.music.pink-floyd. Aha, >>now it all becomes clear. > >Babbling twits? Inviting Denise on alt.freaks is the LAST thing we'd want >to do! Uhh...Denise isn't only the babbling twit on alt.music.pink-floyd. I'm not sure that there's ANYONE on that newsgroup whose posts are consistently substantial, and not contentless look-at-me prattle. And whenever anyone new enters the newsgroup and complains about all the indulgent garbage, he gets brutally flamed by the whole clique and told how he's stupid and just looking for attention (hey, figure THAT one out!). There's a thread like that going right on now...the subject line is "Oh boy..." something or other. Eb (tm?) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:11:52 -0500 From: Zloduska Subject: Re: freaks and EC... Eb wrote: >I said that it didn't really bother me. But yes, poor etiquette. Especially >given that no one knew about the reposts until now, and given that the >reposting parties (not including you) are basically "lurkers." It seems a >bit more creepy, that way. Hmpf. Well, Quail knew about this repost a long time ago, as I emailed him right after it appeared, and cordially invited him to participate in our newsgroup. As for your reposts, well Dave Lynch told me awhile ago, "Email Gondola Bob and invite him here!!!". Well, I meant to, but I never did have time to do it. However, this very morning I had the intention of emailing you, telling you about the coincidental Damo Suzuki/Fall thread, and asking you to join us. It seems you found alt.freaks anyway, and I never considered hiding anything. And I think the fact that I'm a 'newbie' and Christy is a "lurker" is totally irrelevant. Christy is too damn nice, I think. >And for me personally, there's another issue in play here. But I'm not >going to bring it up in this environment. O...k.... not specifically Chinese, nor a fizzy beverage, here I come Contantinople, may your churls unfurl and all that jazz, "tOtally-wired", ~kjs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:09:40 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: freaks and EC... Yo. Maybe mistakes were made. People have apologized. Everyone will be quoted, everyone will be misquoted, on some newsgroup. It's part of our 15 minutes in flames. There is nothing we can do about it. If they don't misquote us and carry our context with some level of respect, why worry? There is no such thing as privacy on the internet. Let's say I'm some big famous musician or reviewer or something. If I say "Mark Gloster is a big dork," it will later be reported as fact somewhere else, even though, technically I am not part of a male whale's reproductive equipment- which will probably not be reported. This is an environment wherein we cannot control where our words go, only how we deal with it when our words go to those places. - -whale's penis, sharkboy, pablo picasso of printed circuit board design, whatever ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:27:49 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Subject: Re: two words: ecoli bacteria... Eels/Beck? James ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:29:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: freaks and EC... On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 Mark_Gloster@3com.com wrote: > Let's say I'm some big famous musician or reviewer or > something. If I say "Mark Gloster is a big dork," it will later > be reported as fact somewhere else Now, I'm not some big famous musician or reviewer or something, but I still think Mark Gloster is a big dork. Love, J. PS -- when am I going to finish that damned two month old travelogue? ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:52:47 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: freaks and EC... i think about this a little more than is probably healthy. i just find it, well, not creepy, really. but at least weird, or maybe even a little unnerving, that there are god knows how many people reading my posts that i've no idea even exist, y'know? oh sure, some of them are on the "globe of fegs" and all. but you've met all these fegs, you've traveled with them, you've exchanged tapes and shit with them, you think you know them, and yet, there are scores more that you're not even aware of. like a say, a little more than is probably healthy. it's possible i've mentioned this here before. but there's a store on the seattle waterfront called "ye olde curiosity shoppe" (i think i heard that it went out of business, though.) they've got (or had) a petrified whale's penis (i guess the technical term for a whale's penis is "oosik," although maybe that was just this specific species of whale) hanging from the ceiling. it's pretty big. that should've been in Viva Sea-Tac, really! would've been much better than all that ruby montana's bit. although that part always reminds me of the velvet underground, so i guess it's ok. but i'd never even *heard* of the place. just finished reading the Raygun interview. it's very good, and at times very hilarious. i shoulda bought the thing so i could quote some passages, but i'm just too much of a tightwad. it's mainly robyn and demme that are interviewed, but peter saraf gets a line in, and "demme child" gets two in. once again, Airscape is mislabeled "Element of Light." and michele's name is misspelled on every occasion it's used. the funniest part is that demme was starting to freak out when robyn asked to let tim play on one song, because he was worried it was all of a sudden turning into a "supergroup" concert, but that it had been sold as just robyn solo. movie's getting a lot of press. maybe it'll stick around for a while, so's we can all go see it several dozen times. lordy, it's a great flick! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:25:34 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: freaks and EC... >Hmpf. Well, Quail knew about this repost a long time ago, as I emailed him >right after it appeared, and cordially invited him to participate in our >newsgroup. The thing is.... As what we receive from the list is technically email, it is a bit of a netiquette violation to post it on usenet without asking the author of whatever-it-is first. Not quite so much as completely private email, I'll grant. But the fact is that the vast majority of us post to the list under the impression that what we're posting is going only to listmembers and whoever is interested enough to access the feg archives. There are places on the net where one would be getting much more soundly skewered for something like this than anyone probably will on Feglist (for example, if one were on a bdsm-listserv and took the same liberty, I suspect that one might well be feeling the need for armed guards right about now :)). Since the intent in these cases wasn't at all malicious and the mails in question not particularly personal/confessional in nature, it's not that big a deal I suppose. It still bothers me, though. And it was a big shock. >And I think the fact that I'm a 'newbie' and Christy is a "lurker" is >totally irrelevant. Christy is too damn nice, I think. Here I have to agree with you. The "membership status" doesn't particularly matter and I know it looks like snobbery. However, you have to understand that to some of us "oldbies" this feels a bit of a betrayal because we were kind of under the impression that what we wrote here stayed here. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:50:01 EDT From: InPerspex@aol.com Subject: Re: freaks and EC... So...Is this the time for 'lurkers' to make themselves known? I don't have anything profound to say right now, just enjoying the company of fegs. No harm intended. - -Kim P.s This bears erie resemblance to 'The Truman Show'(?) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:31:51 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: freaks and EC... >At 10:25 PM 9/29/98 -0600, you wrote: >> >>>Hmpf. Well, Quail knew about this repost a long time ago, as I emailed him >>>right after it appeared, and cordially invited him to participate in our >>>newsgroup. >What for? Sorry, Susan, but if you looked at it from my viewpoint, it would >seem that everyone was completely overreacting about this. For example, >what was it that we posted on alt.freaks? A post of The Quail's appeared there. I at least am not referring to saying- "isn't it weird that Eb said blah on the list", but actual reposting of articles. Technically he should have been asked before the posting, not afterwards. He probably would have said A OK, but it's good form to ask nonetheless. >Well, first of all, I never >reposted _anything_. It amounted to this: I piggybacked off of your post because it was on the topic in question. I actually didn't have you personally in mind. >you feel "betrayed"? "Shocked"? We didn't even discuss anything *you* >said. It's really the principle of it. Whether or not anything I wrote was reposted isn't the issue to me. >general to enhance my life. However, lately, I've gotten nothing but >trouble, and complete strangers flaming me. Actually, what I wrote wasn't a flame. It was a gentle rebuke all littered with smileys an' everything, referring to an issue of netiquette that some might not be familiar with or had not considered. Not only was there no ad hominem attack, there weren't even any names mentioned. I realize you feel attacked and are sensitive to it and that probably led you to read what I wrote as a flame, but I'm not trying to roast anyone's ass and never was. Stating that there are other places where reposting of a mail would get one "skewered" is only stating the truth, because there ARE people who would be deeply upset even about a small quote with their name in it appearing on usenet, if that quote had originated in email. It is just a fact- I have seen newsgroups erupt into mini warzones over similar incidents. It is also a fact that that hasn't happened here and isn't going to. Frankly nobody seems amazingly upset. >and I simply do not have time for this and it's starting to affect my >personal life, real life, and a _bad_ affect, which should not happen. > I don't need this soul-sucking bickering with people and I just want I really hadn't realized I was bickering with anyone. I was only trying to make a point about asking permission before reposting articles. Don't get further irritated :) with me if I ask if you're fairly new to the net? >I don't understand what "bothers" you. Really. It's a small point of etiquette which I actually had thought was universal but apparently isn't. I would venture to guess most of us aren't writing to be read by usenet (I'm certainly not- I gave up usenet a couple years ago or so- the "soul sucking bickering" you referred to got me down and now I just read :)). I would have no qualms about posting say, a newspaper article someone sent on to the list, to usenet, but something someone wrote I'd want to ask them. Whether a couple lines of quotation is overdoing it on this point is the individual's call, but a whole post definitely is not. That's how I read it anyway. >Madison, WI. Did you say it was Oct. 17th or the 18th? I may have to >work, but if I don't I might be able to take the bus to downtown Chicago. I had figured on Saturday (the 17th I believe) to make everyone's travel plans a bit easier, so that no one would have to possibly leave work or school early on that Friday to get here and Sunday would be open for getting back. I live way down South, honeychile- out near Midway Airport :). I'd probably have to meet you up there, unless you're somewhat familiar with our lovely transit system and feel ok with taking the el down here. If you don't I can rescue you from Union Station (which is pretty much OK during the day, but I've had scary experiences waiting for trains there at night :)). >that would be great. At least being sociable and meeting you guys. >Otherwise, I'd hate to come if with me being a stranger it'd be >uncomfortable or I unwelcome. Well, see, this is the beauty of Feg- so far with the exception of a few of the possible guests (Hedblade, Tom Clark, and Dave Paetzmann, who I -think- I have met a couple times if it's the Dave I'm thinking of that I hung out with after the Vic show) I won't know any of these people either. This is FAMILY. Every feg I've ever met has been groovealicious and very friendly. It may look as if there's a big cabal of longtime list members who all know each other, but that really isn't the case- most of these parties and get-togethers involve one or more people who are meeting for the first time. >Also, what are you guys doing? Who comes? I'm unclear about the whole >thing. Um, well, I'm not exactly Martha Stewart or anything, so I haven't really made up a big plan. People can feel free to mail me with plans, Robyn Card Games, and what not. Basically my idea was that we'd just drink beer and have a barbeque and fuck around with whatever toy care packages and tapes had been sent by other Fegs, and maybe jam if there are willing musicians present, which is not that original but seems to have worked for the other Feg parties OK :). Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 03:12:21 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: freaks and EC...ashes for my head It appears that I responded to what was a private mail on the list. I made a dumb assumption (I know, makes an ass out of u and me) that it was a list mail as it wasn't especially "personal" in tone and dealt with list issues. Someone mailed me and pointed out the mistake just now, and I checked the headers and lo, verily, it was true, I screwed up. Mea culpa if anyone is annoyed/embarassed, as John Cleese says "I apologize unreservedly". Given the context it's kind of amusing :). Strike it from the records please, if at all possible and Zloduska wishes. Sorry folks, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:48:36 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Will you dance with me, Lady Mondegreen? (0RH) I expect you all know these already, but they were new to me. In 1954, Sylvia Wright wrote an article about how moved she was by a folk song including the lines: "They had slain the Earl of Moray and Lady Mondegreen" Much later, she found that the correct line was: "They had slain the Earl of Moray and laid him on the green" Accordingly, she coined the name "a mondegreen" for mishearing a lyric. Another example in the same article was: "The ants are my friends, they're blowing in the wind". I used to worry about: "You don't have to say you love me, just because of that". (thinks: because of what?). I eventually found out that it was: "You don't have to say you love me, just be close at hand". - - Mike G. PS They also mentioned "'Scuse me while I kiss this guy", which I don't think counts because Hendrix used to mis-sing these words deliberately... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 03:52:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielle Subject: someone had to do it... And it might as well be me. Happy birthday, Ebby! :) Danielle, lightheaded from too much American Revolutionary literature and too little sleep _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:48:15 -0400 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: hppy bithdy Happy birthday, Eb! I hope you will share your cake and ice cream with the rest of the class. n. p.s. Thanks to Eddie for the tapes and to the birthday boy for the *darling* card. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:38:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Gregory Stuart Shell Subject: Hark I was listening to 570AM in Dallas yesterday afternoon and Sy Sperling, who is not only the president, blah blah, said Jimi Hendrix was one of his first clients at the hair club. I find this a little hard to believe. He listed a few other entertainers, Chuck Norris, Nicolas Cage, Whitney Houston and even tennis star Andre Agassi. He said Agassi wore one for years before finally having it removed and shaving his head. Regards, Gregory S. Shell Subversive Specialist Capitalist ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:00:31 -0800 From: Lobsterman Subject: DB: Smartie Mine will see the light!!!! In December and January of 1997, hot off the road and having just completed the "Fifty Eggs" album for Sony/WORK records (produced by Ani DiFranco), Dan Bern entered the studio with his touring band and recorded a Double CD worth of material, called "Smartie Mine". Word 'round the Dan Bern list is that Dan was so pleased with the outcome that he tried to get Sony to opt to release IT instead of "Fifty Eggs", but that this pissed Ani DiFranco off ("Fifty Eggs" got heavy publicity based on the fact that it was Ani's first CD she had produced for someone else), and she pulled some strings to MAKE Dan/Sony release it. After that, "Smartie Mine" became just a delicious rumor, much like "Oscar" was for us Robyn fans in 1992/1993. At one point I was going to start a Smartie Mine rumor webpage--I really doubted at the time that it existed, but there was so much rumors floating around, and the title seemed cool for a CD that would never be released. Well, not only did more and more people start talking about "Smartie Mine", they began calling Dan Bern Headquarters and asking about it, when it would be released, etc. It was announced last night, on the weekly Dan Bern IRC chat, that "Smartie Mine" will see the light of day on November 2nd. Released independently through DBHQ (Dan Bern Headquarters), this CD will be a limited pressing of 5000, and only available through the DBHQ website and sold at Dan's shows (he's on the road again in November, so watch for him!) The price will be $17 by web, $15 at shows. Here is the tracklisting: Smartie Mine One Thing Real (new version) Tiger Woods (new version) Chelsea Hotel City of Models Krautmeyer Crosses Colors Airplane Blues Freight Train Blues Talking Woody Bob Dan Bruce Ballerina Simple Beautiful Trees Joe Van Gogh Little Russian Girl Gamblin With My Love Murderer Alia 2 Month Affair Baby Love (Martha's Song) Sculptor Dark Chocolate Decadent Town Hooker Cocaine Blues/ Blue Jay Way True Revolutionaries Wow, this reads like a press release. Its just that I'm really excited. Dan is so prolific, that every 3-4 months, he dumps all the old songs by the wayside, and gets excited about his new songs. Imagine if Robyn had shelved EYE, all excited about the songs he was recording for PERSPEX!!! Anyway, so some great songs on here that I was worried would never grace a CD release. My faves on here are Krautmeyer (a song about Charles Manson's real last name & how it should affect Marilyn Manson), Talking Bob Woody Dan and Bruce (a song about Dan breaking into the Springsteen compound and trying to get Bruce to pass the folk mantel onto him much like Woody Guthrie did to Bob Dylan), and True Revolutionaries. I must admit, half these songs I've never heard before. But the ones I mentioned were ones that I listen to over and over again on tapes, and I feared they would never be released officially. okay okay, i'm done. we now return you back to your regularly scheduled horoscope/elviscostello-gratefuldead/quailchat/buttonbuttonwho'sgotthebutton dis cussion, already in progress...... - -jbj eddie, second my emotion! tell them what a monumental thing this is! ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #373 *******************************