From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #359 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, September 15 1998 Volume 07 : Number 359 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: those one-liners (only NZ content) [Danielle ] joy [Eb ] by the way.... [Eb ] Re: those one-liners (only NZ content) [Ross Overbury ] Re: Queen Elvis Demos [Mike Runion ] Re: 20s [M R Godwin ] Re: 20s [Russ Reynolds ] Re: Electronic/Classical music ["JH3" ] Re: 20s, no Hitchcock [M R Godwin ] Re: Electronic/Classical music, no Hitchcock [M R Godwin ] Re: Electronic/Classical music [Mike Runion ] sheer heart attack [Russ Reynolds ] Re: What was my point? (2% RH) [Jason Thornton ] Who's Got The 7"? [Tom Clark ] Moogy Madness ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: beer (BS=100*) [Tom Clark ] "how can i fight a bloody war without bloody artillery?" ["Capitalism Blo] Re: WHFS ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: Electronic/Classical music [Terrence M Marks ] Re: Moogy Madness [Ross Overbury ] Fwd: Re: Moogy Madness ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Moogy Madness ["JH3" ] Re: Moogy Madness [Terrence M Marks ] Re: Re: Queen Elvis Demos [InPerspex@aol.com] Re: Who's Got The 7"? [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:19:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielle Subject: Re: those one-liners (only NZ content) James asked, re the Treaty of Waitangi: > which version? The English version, the Maori version, or the retranslated > "English to Maori then back to English" version. Comparing the last and the > first of these makes you realise why there are so many problems... I've read so many versions of the damn thing that I have no clue what any of them say. All I know is that every version varies, and 'governorship' and 'sovereignty' are obviously vastly different things... Danielle, wondering whether this irrelevant NZ minutiae proves to all our jocular conspiracy theorists that she does in fact exist ;) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:34:47 -0700 From: Eb Subject: joy As for me, I'm still coming down from the exhiliration over Mac Davis finally getting a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Woo! Eb _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:52:04 -0700 From: Eb Subject: by the way.... There's only about two weeks until my birthday, so get to those malls already, folks! ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 98 8:34:34 EDT From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: those one-liners (only NZ content) > I've read so many versions of the damn thing that I have no clue what > any of them say. All I know is that every version varies, and > 'governorship' and 'sovereignty' are obviously vastly different > things... Here in Bizarro World, lots of people want "sovereignty" but most don't want "independence". - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 07:48:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Gregory Stuart Shell Subject: Richie Blackmore On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, M R Godwin wrote: > Yes - he practically had a monopoly of lead guitar jobs. Big Jim Sullivan > played on a lot of early 60s tracks too, as did the Outlaws guitarist, > Ritchie Blackmore (whatever happened to him?). After the Outlaws, I believe he next went to Deep Purple, then a band called Elf, in which he changed the name to Rainbow, or Richie Blackmore's Rainbow or something like that. I am not sure what he is doing now. I saw a Rainbow/Saxon/Riot show in the mid eighties and remember being disappointed. Regards, Gregory S. Shell Subversive Specialist Hunt/Gather/Barter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:02:59 -0700 From: Mike Runion Subject: Re: Queen Elvis Demos The ever lovely Ms. Randi wrote: > > Well...I have a copy of the Queen Elvis Demos. > They are quite different from what appeared on the album - especially > *Madonna* and *Wax Doll* and *Veins* - but they are ALL very obviously demos. > > Now I wonder if they are different from the versions others are talking > about. Hmm. Well, the QE Demos collection I have, which I believe is the one that has been heavily circulated on this list, has the following track list: Madonna Of The Wasps / Ruling Class / Veins Of The Queen / Knife / One Long Pair Of Eyes / The Devil's Coachman / Veins Of The Queen* / Madonna Of The Wasps* / Swirling / Freeze* / Surgery* / Mr. Rock & Roll* / Wax Doll / Hanging Out With Dad* / Autumn Sea* / Superman / Live Man Die* / Evil Guy* with several songs having multiple "demos". I haven't listened in a while, but I had put * by the cuts that sounded appreciably different from the album versions. Randi, when you are finally freed on parole maybe you could compare this to your tape. If yours is different, yeah, I'm sure a lot of us would like to get a copy. Sounds like another job for masterful Bayard Tape Topiary! By the way, I just recently finished reading the Pink Floyd book "Saucerful of Secrets" and was happy to see Robyn given a good paragraph towards the middle of the book, as well as a namecheck in the "these are the people I contacted" section of the author's preface. It's funny though...for some odd reason, the word "hat" kept appearing in the strangest places. Mike "Wait a minute. Time for a Planetary Sit-In!" - Julian Cope ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 15:05:49 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: 20s > >And quite a few of those Lovin' Spoonful hits ('Daydream', 'The doctor > >said give him jug band music', 'You didn't have to be so nice' etc) have a > >definite 20s feel, without being outright copies. On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, Eb wrote: > "You Didn't Have To Be So Nice"?? Nah. Sorry, I meant "Did you ever have to make up your mind?" - - Mike G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 98 08:31:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Re: 20s ======== Original Message ======== > >And quite a few of those Lovin' Spoonful hits ('Daydream', 'The doctor > >said give him jug band music', 'You didn't have to be so nice' etc) have a > >definite 20s feel, without being outright copies. On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, Eb wrote: > "You Didn't Have To Be So Nice"?? Nah. Sorry, I meant "Did you ever have to make up your mind?" - - Mike G. ======== Fwd by: Russ Reynolds ======== I don't remember whether or not you're the one who absolutely hates Queen (as if there would be only one such person on this list) but I don't care. No discussion of rock bands performing 20s style music would be complete without mention of Queen's "Bring Back Leroy Brown", "Good Company" and "Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon". Ya know, you really should drop what you're doing right now and go out and buy some Queen albums. ;) - -rUss, who asks: would Robyn Hitchcock have ever bothered with music if there had been no Freddie Mercury? (just asking) ('cause I'm guessing "Ogre Battle" probably had a profound affect on him) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:54:42 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Electronic/Classical music Terrence M. writes: >I'm looking for other performers who work in the same genre as Isao >Tomita. Has anyone any suggestions? Other than Walter/Wendy Carlos, I don't think you'll find that many. By the time that sort of thing started to catch on, the technology had advanced to the point where non-sampled synth patches were starting to sound quaint and old-fashioned. (Btw, personally I think Tomita's records hold up a lot better today than Carlos's. Jack "The Star Hustler" Korkheimer still uses Tomita's version of "Claire de Lune" as his theme music...not that that proves anything...) >Are the non-Tomita selections of the >Plasma Music catalog worth investigating? Naaah - they never had any good-looking female interns there. >What's this genre properly called, anyhow? "Switched-on Classics"? Anyway, you shouldn't get into this sort of thing, Terrence - you'll destroy all of Eb's illusions about your aesthetic limitations! On the other hand... what band was the first to use a Moog synthesizer on a pop record...? >ps-Last time we were talking about Klaatu, were we saying >good things or bad things? Bad things! His big bad-ass robot blasted a lot of perfectly good DC-area buildings in "The Day the Earth Stood Still" before Patricia Neal finally got him under control. The nerve of some people... John H. Hedges PS: Bob Mould's new album: About as good as the last one, which is to say very good, but don't break your neck getting to the record store to buy it or anything ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:14:49 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: 20s, no Hitchcock On Tue, 15 Sep 1998, Russ Reynolds wrote: > I don't remember whether or not you're the one who absolutely hates Queen > (as if there would be only one such person on this list) but I don't care. No, I'm the one that hates 'Bohemian Rhapsody', which is not quite the same thing. To me, 'Mama Mia' is a number by Abba. > No discussion of rock bands performing 20s style music would be complete > without mention of Queen's "Bring Back Leroy Brown", "Good Company" and > "Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon". > Ya know, you really should drop what you're doing right now and go out and > buy some Queen albums. I don't know any of the songs you mention, but I did once have a copy of 'Sheer Heart Attack', on which 'Killer Queen' was the most vaudevilley-20s-ish number. My favourite Queen numbers are 'Now I'm here', 'This thing called love' 'I'm in love with my car' and 'Another one bites the dust'. There are only a few Queen numbers which would instinctively make me switch off the radio. - - Mike G. PS And with all that stuff about Beelzebub, why were Queen never on the "All rock is Satanist" hit list? (thinks: perhaps they were...) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:30:00 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Electronic/Classical music, no Hitchcock On Tue, 15 Sep 1998, JH3 wrote: > On the other hand... what band was the first to use a Moog > synthesizer on a pop record...? The BBC Radiophonic Workshop issued "The Dr Who Theme" a long long time ago (1964?). I've got a copy which, interestingly, has a B-side by "Brenda and Johnny", not by the BBCRW at all. But they were a technical unit at the BBC rather than a pop group, and I wouldn't have thought they were using Moog equipment, though they were probably in touch with Bob M. I think my vote goes to the United States of America, who did that album which included 'I wouldn't leave my little wooden wife for you, sugar' in the mid-60s. However, it wasn't a hit. Captain Beefheart included a theremin on "Electricity" in 1966/7, but that's not a Moog synth. The noise at the beginning of 'See Emily Play' (1967) sounds just like a synth today, but I don't think it was. Does anyone know? I would guess that the first big UK Moog synth hits were that thing by Sailor (what _was_ it called?) and of course "Son of my father" by Chicory Tip (de do de do ding ding, de do de do ding ding etc etc) - - Mike G. PS Klaatu misinformation: I saw a writeup the other day which said that Michael Rennie played the robot! Bah! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 98 12:37:25 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Electronic/Classical music Terrence asked, >I'm looking for other performers who work in the same genre as Isao >Tomita. Has anyone any suggestions? Gee, Tomita! This brings me way back to when I was a child, listening to my Uncle's Tomita records as I fell asleep -- spooOOOoooky music. I have never heard anyone else program Classical works on electronic synthesizers with such intuition, intelligence, and genuine emotion -- he really was a genius at *translating* the feel of a piece into the new medium, although I think he was at his strongest working with the French Impressionists. His takes on Debussy and Ravel had a poetry that some of his other, more popular pieces, lacked. (Although I still loved them!) To the best of my knowledge, the only one who even comes close is Wendy(Walter) Carlos, whose "Switched on Bach" was a standard of the Classical/Electronic genre. Kubrick used him (not yet her) to score "A Clockwork Orange." Some guy whose name I forget also did "Carmina Burana," but it sucks. And of course, there's always ELP's rendition of "Pictures and an Exhibition," heh heh. Although not Classically based, I still contend that the best Electronic music of the Seventies was the early Tangerine Dream -- "Zeit," "Phaedra," and "Rubicon" are atmospheric classics. (Of course the Tangerine Dream of the late Eighties and Nineties are completely different, and in my humble opinion, suck.) >ps-Last time we were talking about Klaatu, were we saying good things or >bad things? I *always* say good things about the Beatles. . . . . - --Quail PS: I said "suck" twice. Do I get an Eddie Cool Point or two? +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:37:07 -0700 From: Jason Thornton Subject: Ice, Ice, Baby (was Re: 20s, no Hitchcock), still no Hitchcock At 05:14 PM 9/15/98 +0100, M R Godwin wrote: >PS And with all that stuff about Beelzebub, why were Queen never on the >"All rock is Satanist" hit list? (thinks: perhaps they were...) I remember heading a WHOLE bunch of "Queen are devilworshippers" rumors when I was a kid... If I remember correctly, AC/DC, Kiss, Led Zeppelin, the Eagles, and Styx were also followers of our friend The Dark Lord. Maybe Dolly Parton. My grandparents were convinced Jimmy Carter was an agent of Satan, too. They were, and still are, a bit fanatical that way. - --Jason np: Rufus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:06:23 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: What was my point? (2% RH) Jason writes: >If I remember correctly, AC/DC, Kiss, Led Zeppelin, the >Eagles, and Styx were also followers of our friend The Dark >Lord. Maybe Dolly Parton. Why couldn't they be followers of both the Dark Lord AND Dolly Parton? After all, it's easy to get the two confused. The way I remember it is that with Satan, the two big protuberances come out of his head. And sometimes they gouge through your scrambled eggs, which would be unlikely in Dolly Parton's case. Of course, with Jimmy "The Musical Antichrist" Buffett, it's a lot more difficult. And then of course Madonna has to get in there with those horrible "Truth or Dare" costumes and mix everything up... John H. Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:13:58 -0700 From: Mike Runion Subject: Re: Electronic/Classical music The somewhat overcooked Georgia quail special I had for lunch screeched the following when I stuck the fork in: > Although not Classically based, I still contend that the best Electronic > music of the Seventies was the early Tangerine Dream -- "Zeit," > "Phaedra," and "Rubicon" are atmospheric classics. (Of course the > Tangerine Dream of the late Eighties and Nineties are completely > different, and in my humble opinion, suck.) I'd include "Alpha Centauri" (1971?) which is my personal favorite...I think it's the album right before the numbingly good but nearly non-existent "Zeit". To me, "Zeit" is sorta the soundtrack for the coffin...this is probably what it sounds like when you're dead. It sounds great, of course. - -- Mike Runion Cocoa, FL, USA "Wait a minute. Time for a Planetary Zeit-In!" - Julian Cope, sorta ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 98 09:47:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: sheer heart attack >I don't know any of the songs you mention, but I did once have a copy of >'Sheer Heart Attack', on which 'Killer Queen' was the most >vaudevilley-20s-ish number. well then you really SHOULD give this record another listen. "Leroy Brown" is also on SHA and definitely has more of an old-time feel. Banjo & all. "Killer Queen" to me was more Beatley than anything else...that's the tune that inspired me to check out the rest of the bands work--a decision I'll admit I did not regret until "The Game" came out. In spite of what I think of Queen now, Sheer Heart Attack remains one of my all time favorite albums. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:27:28 -0700 From: Jason Thornton Subject: Re: What was my point? (2% RH) At 12:06 PM 9/15/98 -0500, "JH3" wrote: >Of course, with Jimmy "The Musical Antichrist" Buffett, it's a >lot more difficult. And then of course Madonna has to get in >there with those horrible "Truth or Dare" costumes and mix >everything up... The "Truth or Dare" Madonna has long since been replaced by the Deepak Chopra/Kabbalah-enhanced "I'm a mom now" Madonna. Aum Shanti, shanti shanti. I'm pretty sure my family would find Madonna's newfound New-Age/pseudo-Hindu/neo-Jewish "spirituality" Satanic as well. They've pretty much got that "if you're with us, you're against us" mentality down pat. - --Jason np: David Sylvian, "Promise" (Bootleg Rarities Collection) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:30:22 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Who's Got The 7"? So the "I Wanna Destroy You" 7" on eBay went for $21 to someone named Heruka. Fess up - who are you? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:33:04 -0400 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Moogy Madness Woo hoo! I'm a big Moog nut. JH3 asked: >> On the other hand... what band was the first to use a Moog >> synthesizer on a pop record...? M R Godwin sed: >The BBC Radiophonic Workshop issued "The Dr Who Theme" a long long time >ago (1964?). Well, Hot Butter was (one of the?) the first bands to get a record on the charts with a Moog, with their recording of Jacques Perrey's "Popcorn." But Mickey Dolenz of the Monkees was also one of the firsts, using a Moog on the song "Star Collector." But, if I'm not mistaken, the first person to record a Moog was, of all people, guitarist Les Paul. But the details are a little fuzzy -- don't quote me on these. There's an issue of _Grand Royal_ magazine dedicated to the history of the Moog, and is well worth reading if you're into that sort of thing. But damn, what Mort Garson and Dick Hyman did with the Moog in the late 60s was wonderful. But their music still isn't as amazing as what Raymond Scott did with his "Soothing Sounds for Baby" albums in 1963. BTW, I'm pretty sure Robert Moog was an employee of Raymond Scott. >I think my vote goes to the United States of America, who did that album >which included 'I wouldn't leave my little wooden wife for you, sugar' in >the mid-60s. However, it wasn't a hit. Umm, that's a good one. I'm also pretty sure other USA contemporaries Fifty Foot Hose and White Noise used the Moog. >The noise at the beginning of 'See Emily Play' (1967) sounds just like a >synth today, but I don't think it was. Does anyone know? I always thought that was some guitar trickery. Like a Telecaster run through some wicked delay. ++++++++ Gene Hopstetter, Jr. + Online Design Guy http://extra.newsguy.com/~genehop/ ++++++++ Yoda. The other white meat. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:22:39 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: beer (BS=100*) On 9/14/98 9:48 PM, Bayard wrote: > >I need beer recommendations for the impending fegfest. Tom Clark, I'm >looking in your direction. But I welcome any input from anyone... please >provide brief description and percentages (get 25% this, etc) as well as >any other valuable info - > >thanks! > >*BS= beer swigging > Here's what I suggested to Mark for his shindig: 25% Sierra Nevada Pale Ale 25% Samuel Adams 10% Pyramid Hefeweizen 20% Red Hook ESB 20% Gordon Biersch Blonde Bock I don't know if you can get all those in your neck o' the woods so let me break it down by genre: 25% Hoppy IPA 25% Nationally available amber lager 10% Wheat beer 20% Moderately high alcohol English bitter 20% High alcohol lager (you can substitute a Belgian strong ale here) And, of course you should pepper the cooler with the occasional gueuze and dubbel. Now you're drinkin' at 110%!!! Woohoo!! Lushingly yours, - -tc ******************************************************** Tom Clark Apple Computer, Inc. tclark@apple.com http://u2.netgate.net/~tclark "I've never felt so accepted in all my life. These people looked deep into my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." -Homer Simpson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:38:38 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: "how can i fight a bloody war without bloody artillery?" Young's Old Nick!! an english barley-wine style ale, best served at 45 degrees fahrenheit. GREAT picture of your friend and mine, the prince of darkness, on the label. have you ever tried this, glen? a finer brew one will never taste. i used to collect the bottles, and had them arrayed on the top of a bookcase, with the mr. t stamps i mentioned on this list a while back in all four corners. my cousin took one look at that and just about freaked out. "you're eeeevil!" so give us your motherfuckin' snail-mail, already! i'll send you that neutral milk hotel boot, along with some other good stuff. "suck" is not even in the same zipcode with "fuck" on the cool-o-meter. just imagine the above sentence, for example, as, "so give us your mothersuckin' snail-mail, already!" doesn't quite work, does it? however, if we were to let the quail start racking up cool points, he'd break the damned scale in less time than it takes monica lewinsky to wear out a set o' kneepads. by the way, alexander cockburn had a great line in his column a couple weeks ago. i don't remember the exact quote, but it was to do with the...with the, uh, "presidential cigar." something to the effect that using said cigar in such a, um, "presidential" manner was probably in itself an impeachable offense, considering it was most likely a cuban cigar, and thus in contravention of the helms-burton act. best laugh i'd had in quite some time! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:45:51 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: WHFS so i've received several offlist replies to my whfs query, for which, thanks. but i think i'm more confused than ever now. only the 1/7/96 appearance gets listed as rockville. that i can deal with. but are the other appearances to be listed as landover or annapolis? sorry to be such a weenie about this. it's in my nature, i guess. whatever that means. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:47:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Electronic/Classical music > > Anyway, you shouldn't get into this sort of thing, Terrence - > you'll destroy all of Eb's illusions about your aesthetic limitations! > On the other hand... what band was the first to use a Moog > synthesizer on a pop record...? Played by Paul Beaver, whose name, I'm sure, some of you will take endless amusement at. (May as well tie this thread in somewhere) Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 98 13:46:31 EDT From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: Moogy Madness From http://www.mtsu.edu/~dsmitche/rim419/history/history.html - --- 1953 Herbert Eimert & Robert Beyer Produced the first compositions to use solely electronically generated sounds. 1964 Milton Babbitt Began applying serial techniques to electronic music. 1964 Morton Subotnik Realised "Silver Apples of the Moon" which demonstrated the first real-time control of voltage controlled synthesis. 1967 Karlheinze Stockhausen Realised "Hymnen" a piece which blended musique concrete and electronic music. 1967 The Beatles Released "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" Contained on the album was "For the Benefit of Mr. Kite" in which George Martin and Geoff Emerick utilized musique concrete and electronic music techniques. (RO: tape music, not synthesized) 1968 Wendy Carlos Released "Switched On Bach" -- realization of Bach's music using the Moog synthesizer. This became the first platinum-selling classical music album. 1970's Logarthmic increase in the use of synthsizers and electronic music techniques in pop music. Oddly, Pierre Henry is not mentioned in this page. Wee-woooooop! - --- - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:06:21 -0400 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Fwd: Re: Moogy Madness >From: Ross Overbury >From http://www.mtsu.edu/~dsmitche/rim419/history/history.html Whoa, good reference work! Thanks. >1964 Morton Subotnik Realised "Silver Apples of the Moon" which demonstrated >the first real-time control of voltage controlled synthesis. I just picked up the Wergo CD recording of this, and it's one of the best synthesizer works I've ever heard. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:47:49 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Moogy Madness I (rather casually) asked: >>On the other hand... what band was the first to use a Moog >>synthesizer on a pop record...? Gene H. replied: >Well, Hot Butter was (one of the?) the first bands to get a record on the >charts with a Moog, with their recording of Jacques Perrey's "Popcorn." >But Mickey Dolenz of the Monkees was also one of the firsts, using a Moog >on the song "Star Collector." But, if I'm not mistaken, the first person to >record a Moog was, of all people, guitarist Les Paul. I was, of course, referring to the Monkees. But that's only what I've heard/seen/read, and so it's subject to "source inaccuracies." But if these sources are correct, the Monkees would've beaten the others to the punch by a month or two. I guess they didn't think the Les Paul recording was a pop record? I guess I've learned now never to underestimate the power of feg-trivia-mania! BTW, didn't "Popcorn" come out around 1969-70? And I seem to recall another hit single around that time - was it "Joy" by Apollo 100? - that was sort of a syntho-classical piece. Of course, it's not like I'm really old enough to remember this stuff... Terry M. wrote: >Played by Paul Beaver, whose name, I'm sure, some of you will >take endless amusement at. I didn't know that either - I thought the synth was personally set up at the Monkees' studio by Robert Moog himself, but actually played by Micky Dolenz. Or is this not the same record? JH3 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:54:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Moogy Madness > >Played by Paul Beaver, whose name, I'm sure, some of you will > >take endless amusement at. > > I didn't know that either - I thought the synth was personally set up at the > Monkees' studio by Robert Moog himself, but actually played by Micky Dolenz. > Or is this not the same record? If I recall the Rhino-enhanced liner notes for PAC&J, Both Paul Beaver and Micky Dolenz contributed Moog sounds to the album. Basically, Paul knew what he was doing, Micky was stabbing wildly at keys. I'll check it out latyer tonight. (I believe both Star Collector and Daily Nightly feature moogs) Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:15:03 EDT From: InPerspex@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Queen Elvis Demos Hi y'awl Just sitting here wondering how I can get my very own copy of the infamous QE demos (or any other RH stuff for that matter). Someone wanna let me in? - -Kim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:48:50 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Who's Got The 7"? Clark: >So the "I Wanna Destroy You" 7" on eBay went for $21 to someone named >Heruka. >Fess up - who are you? That same seller (Richard Neuwirth) has posted about auctioning off two OTHER Hitchcock-related items, since then. He seems to specialize in Hitchcock. I thought of passing the other posts I saw, but eh, whatever. Check rec.music.marketplace.vinyl if interested. I can't remember exactly what else he was selling, but they were also early seven-inches. Godwin: >I think my vote goes to the United States of America, who did that album >which included 'I wouldn't leave my little wooden wife for you, sugar' in >the mid-60s. However, it wasn't a hit. The USA album came out in 1968, not the "mid-60s." Hence, it's perhaps a bit tardy in the great Moog race. And yes, Silver Apples of the Moon is fantastic. Also, check out Charles Wuorinen's Time's Encomium. I thought that I was the only one fond of this record, and then awhile after getting it, I found out that it actually won the Pulitzer Prize for music. (Or was it the Nobel? One of the two.) Sheesh. Eb, a bit creeped out by the preponderance of ersatz '70s sounds on the list right now np: The Plastic Cow Goes Mooooooog ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #359 *******************************