From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #358 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, September 15 1998 Volume 07 : Number 358 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: fun for the hole family [Eb ] Re: RH+E at the Cambridge Folk Festival ["Gary.Sedgwick" ] Eh? [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: No RH but some Ike Turner [M R Godwin ] Re: crabwise [The Great Quail ] physio-feg (was: bored at work) [Aaron Mandel ] Re: fun for the hole family [M R Godwin ] just saw this on the news [lj lindhurst ] Re: Hole [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: just saw this on the news [Ben ] Re: just saw this on the news ["JH3" ] one, two, three: refrigerate! ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: crabwise [Tom Clark ] Re: No RH but some Ike Turner [Gregory Stuart Shell ] David Gilmour, baron of the cereal industry [Eb ] a bunch of crap (with a dash of content) [Ken Ostrander ] Wow! [Eb ] Re: Fegmaniax made redundant [Tom Clark ] Re: Wow! [dmw ] I live again. ["Chaney, Dolph L" ] New XTC book [steve ] Re: those one-liners [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Electronic/Classical music [Terrence M Marks ] Fegmaniac made redundant [Ethyl Ketone ] from randi - re: Queen Elvis Demos [Tim Fuller ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:21:53 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: fun for the hole family James: >someone (Terry?) asked about bands other than the New Vaudeville Band who >used that whole '20s style thing in the late 60s-early 70s. Other than the >obvious (The Beatles "Honey Pie", "Martha My Dear", "When I'm 64"), there >were such bands as the Scaffold ("Lily the Pink" was vaguely 20s-ish, as >were one or two of the8ir other songs) and the most direly, bizarrely, >wonderful of one-hit wonders, Lieutenant Pigeon ("Mouldy Old Dough") I don't think anyone's mentioned one of the best examples of all: Mungo Jerry/"In the Summertime." A bit subtler about its nostalgia than some of the above, but still.... Eb PS This is the most tedious Emmys broadcast EVER. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:59:21 +0100 From: "Gary.Sedgwick" Subject: Re: RH+E at the Cambridge Folk Festival Has anyone responded to this? Some others on this list must still be interested in RH albums! Info please if anyone has any. Gary Mike wrote: >Remember a few months back I mentioned a live compilation album of artists >who've appeared at the Cambridge Folk Festival? Robyn was gonna be on it? >Well, I ordered it but apparently it didn't come out or something. Anyway, now >I found this! > >482-ROBYN HITCHCOCK AND THE EGYPT LIVE AT THE CAMBRIDGE FOLK FESTIVAL CD >(UK) 10/02/98 [$22.49] $19.95 > 1992 gig, on Strange Fruit > >I got this off a Pre-Order list email from Intergalactic Garage (homepage: >www.igg.com, email for orders: maura@intrepid.net). Anyone else heard anything >about this? Yes, I ordered it, but again haven't heard back yet. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 05:04:34 -0400 From: Ben Subject: Re: RH+E at the Cambridge Folk Festival Gary.Sedgwick wrote: > Has anyone responded to this? Some others on this list must still be > interested in RH albums! > > Info please if anyone has any. > Well... I have some filler on a tape that's from a 1986(?) performance. Maybe someone else has the whole show and can give a setlist? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 08:50:26 -0400 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: Eh? A friend sent me this: > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:14:53 -0400 (EDT) > From: Chris Friedrich > Subject: "Terry And Julie Step Out" > > Has anyone heard this Kinks tribute from the new CD by the Knack > (yes, they're back), headed by Doug Fieger, who is 1) brother of Kevorkian's > lawyer who's also running for governor of Michigan and 2) thanked in the > credits to the new Firesign Theatre CD, "Give Me Immortality or Give Me > Death" and 3) cancelling the rest of their tour due to throat problems? > Phew.... n., feeling a bit woozy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:18:44 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: No RH but some Ike Turner On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, amadain wrote: > - what I'm wondering is > if we give cred to Dave Davies shouldn't we also give "Rocket 88" and Ike > Turner some consideration? I mean, where does this end? :) Well, it must end somewhere. 'Rocket 88' is the first 'Rock'n'Roll' record, not the first heavy metal record. But there are some Joe Turner and Louis Jourdan things before that which sound a lot like rock'n'roll. And if you added a band to Robert Johnson's 'Sweet Home Chicago', that would be rock'n'roll too, I think. > And FWIW I also wonder where the latter thing ends. Did Page actually > secretly play guitar on 90 percent of singles released in that era, or > what?!!!???? Yes - he practically had a monopoly of lead guitar jobs. Big Jim Sullivan played on a lot of early 60s tracks too, as did the Outlaws guitarist, Ritchie Blackmore (whatever happened to him?). > What's so incredible about the idea of the guitarists of the > bands in question having played on the singles in question? :) You're dealing with the 60s London music scene here, which was very tightly run by EMI, Decca, Philips and Pye, not to mention the Musicians' Union. Most of these people did not respect the groups they were working with at all, and they were operating on tiny budgets. If a band musician could not get a part down in the first couple of takes, the producer would send out for a session guy to play the part. I heard an extraordinary story about Them cutting a track ('Here comes the night' IIRC) where the band members were replaced one by one throughout the session, until finally the record was cut by Van and a complete session band, with the musicians from Them sitting around grinding their teeth in frustration... - - Mike ("I'm back I'm back I'm on the right track") Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 98 11:57:44 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: crabwise Rebbeca writes, >And I am a relatively new fan (three years) who has only seen >Robyn in concert twice. Once at the Beacon in NYC where he opened for >Billy Bragg.> To which Eddie Tewed, >uh, you mean when he "co-headlined" for billy bragg? Actually, I think it was the show where Billy *closed* for Robyn Hitchcock. . . . - --Fanboy Quail +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:56:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: physio-feg (was: bored at work) > Why do I get the feeling this was designed for people who knew a much > smaller amount of songs than the average Feg does? i'm curious... does anyone else find that being tired vastly increase the tenacity of songs that get stuck in their heads? i didn't bother with this psychological adjustment thing just now, but i'm sure if i had i would have found it difficult to think of anything but one particular song i heard this morning. when i'm well-rested, thinking of something else usually puts it right out of my mind. after the 24-hours-of-robyn radio show (admittedly, i got a short nap thanks to Eugene Mirman's help) i had no trouble going from one RH song to another, but i was completely unable to think about any other music for a while. a ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:13:45 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: fun for the hole family On Sun, 13 Sep 1998, Eb wrote: > James: > >someone (Terry?) asked about bands other than the New Vaudeville Band who > >used that whole '20s style thing in the late 60s-early 70s. Other than the > >obvious (The Beatles "Honey Pie", "Martha My Dear", "When I'm 64"), there > >were such bands as the Scaffold ("Lily the Pink" was vaguely 20s-ish, as > >were one or two of the8ir other songs) and the most direly, bizarrely, > >wonderful of one-hit wonders, Lieutenant Pigeon ("Mouldy Old Dough") > > I don't think anyone's mentioned one of the best examples of all: Mungo > Jerry/"In the Summertime." A bit subtler about its nostalgia than some of > the above, but still.... The 20s craze in the UK was started by the Temperance Seven, who had a number one with 'You're driving me crazy' in 1961/2(?) and also had a hit with 'Pasadena'. Bob Mickleburgh of the T7 still performs trad jazz at the Farmhouse pub in Bath. The sensational, fabulous, terrific Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band also started off as a 20s revival outfit (with numbers like 'Hunting Tigers out in India', 'The stork has brought a son and daughter for Mr and Mrs Mickey Mouse, 'Jollity Farm' and 'My brother makes the noises for the talkies') before the drugs took hold. I won't bother to mention Bob Kerr's Whoopee Band, which featured Sam Spoons after he left the Bonzos. And quite a few of those Lovin' Spoonful hits ('Daydream', 'The doctor said give him jug band music', 'You didn't have to be so nice' etc) have a definite 20s feel, without being outright copies. - Mike G. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:27:36 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: just saw this on the news Roger Daltrey is going to be playing Scrooge in "A Christmas Carol" on Broadway! wha-wha-what?????? hey, did anyone get the new Hole album? l "WWCD" j ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:40:18 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: Hole In a message dated 9/14/98 9:32:11 AM, lj wrote: <> Haven't gotten it, but I've heard it. It sounds like a smartly put together album, but it was of no personal interest to me, all the same. Sounds the way it probably should sound. Couple of catchy tunes, I guess. Whatever. - -----Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:09:26 -0400 From: Ben Subject: Re: just saw this on the news lj lindhurst wrote: > Roger Daltrey is going to be playing Scrooge in "A Christmas Carol" on > Broadway! > > wha-wha-what?????? > > He also played one of the characters in a stage version of "The Wizard Of Oz"... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:38:44 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: just saw this on the news >> Roger Daltrey is going to be playing Scrooge in "A Christmas Carol" on >> Broadway! >He also played one of the characters in a stage version of "The Wizard >Of Oz"... I thought he was excellent as Eliza Doolittle in "My Fair Lady," though he seemed to have a little trouble with the accent. Now I hear they're looking for someone to play Disco Stu in "The Simpsons: the Musical"... JH3 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:42:46 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: one, two, three: refrigerate! you mean, "oh well, whatever, nevermind"? hey, two questions (not numbered): - --it has been called to my attention by the honorable chris franz that there is a date discrepancy on the Loveline appearance. mr. michel r. runion has it listed as 9/8/91, while mr. johan b. jones has it listed as 9/18/91. anybody know the correct date? as bayard says, "this is important!" - --bayard or doug or whoever else lives over there, would it be correct to suppose that WHFS has two studios, one in annapolis, and one in rockville? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:16:20 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: crabwise On 9/13/98 5:21 PM, Danielle wrote: >not to mention those who have >attempted to understand the controversy over 'kawanatanga' and >'rangatiratanga' Oh man, don't get me started! - -t "Monica Who?" c ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:00:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Gregory Stuart Shell Subject: Re: No RH but some Ike Turner On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, M R Godwin wrote: > Yes - he practically had a monopoly of lead guitar jobs. Big Jim Sullivan > played on a lot of early 60s tracks too, as did the Outlaws guitarist, > Ritchie Blackmore (whatever happened to him?). After the Outlaws, I believe he next went to Deep Purple, then a band called Elf, in which he changed the name to Rainbow, or Richie Blackmore's Rainbow or something like that. I am not sure what he is doing now. I saw a Rainbow/Saxon/Riot show in the mid eighties and remember being disappointed. Regards, Gregory S. Shell Subversive Specialist Hunt/Gather/Barter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:05:28 -0700 From: Eb Subject: David Gilmour, baron of the cereal industry From: denigma2@aol.com (DENIGMA2) Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd Subject: Re: G-d Date: 14 Sep 1998 14:07:03 GMT >> For god's sake, you thought that the damn cereal >> was telling you something!! You are just thinking way too hard. Go out, >> do something, have a life!! later. >> >> Shari %b This is just total bs. I never said I heard the damn cereal talking, get your facts straight. As I said many many times before that Gilmour was receiving my letters. Since I know he is Publius/Genesis et. al. I asked him if he could give this group some clue regarding a "hat". You see [Brain Damage] mag said that they'd "eat my hat" if I was in communication with Gilmour. So when the mysterious "yoursecretfriend" showed up and gave the clue "I ate all the lucky charms" I went to the store and saw that the new marshmallow in the cereal was a "hat". So where else could you actually eat a hat, but in that cereal. No one else here knew that I was looking for a hat clue to prove that I was in communication with Gilmour only Gilmour knew that. So for "yourseceretfriend" to be anyone other than Gilmour himself is totally impossible. D# ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:20:52 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: a bunch of crap (with a dash of content) >Uh oh. I just disagreed with two points made by Kenster. I can feel a battle >coming on: Ken "Kenster" Osterland(?) vs. Ken "Kendaddy" Sabatini. >Its 'go time.' :) um...that's ostrander santini. you take axl on your team and i'll take henry rollins. or we can have morrissey and boy george go at it on our behalf. on second thought... >.... That album sounded to me like it was written in a >hour, and recorded in two. Epitomizes "half-assed." sounds like half of punk music. >Error! I liked "Your Arsenal"--it's "Southpaw Grammar" and "Maladjusted" >that I see as examples of Morrissey needing a shakeup. a ha! >I recall a Mr. Hitchcock mentioning Mark Ellen repeatedly. He's mostly >Americanized by now, right? when he says "he wasn't really in", is that a dig? > All the Velvet Underground's lyrics say is "Look ma, we're on smack." and dressed in black. >>I bet if Charlton Heston or Frank Sinatra threatened their critics you'd >>be just as willing to defend them ;) >Take your stinkin' paws off me, you damn dirty ape! It's a madhouse... a >madhouse... Oh, sorry, spent the weekend watching the Planet of the Apes >marathon on AMC. ok, they were on again this weekend and i passed out saturday night on the couch while conquest of the planet of the apes was on and had dreams of dr. zira and nova... ken "couldn't hit it sideways" the kenster np. the velvet underground _loaded (fully loaded version)_ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:21:17 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Wow! Glad I saw Dub Narcotic Sound System that night instead! Eb, not surprised, given his experiences with William after the last LA date... BROTHERS GONNA WORK IT OUT? JESUS AND MARY CHAIN TOUR WITHOUT ONE REID The Jesus and Mary Chain's Jim Reid is back to his drunken rock star ways. The band cut their set short after three songs, and 15 minutes of craziness, at the House of Blues in Los Angeles on Saturday (Sept. 14), and now William Reid is not touring with the group... or at least for the time being. In what one concert goer described as "Jim Morrison meets Sid Vicious," Reid proceeded to mess up songs, fight with his bandmates, and throw mike stands around. William bowed out of the next stop on the tour, which was Sunday (Sept. 13) at the Coach House in San Juan Capistrano, Calif., and it's not yet determined if he'll rejoin the band at all. "He's hanging out in the U.S. somewhere," says the band's spokesperson, CeCe Stelljes of Sub Pop Records. "They're going to continue to tour as a four-piece without William. What happens next week, the following week, or three days from now is anyone's guess." Given the brevity of the House of Blues set, the club refunded ticket- holders for the entire $22.50. "It was pathetic," says Stacey Kirkland of Aron's Records in L.A., who was at the show. "Jim came out completely messed up, looking like he was in a trance. He muttered, tried to sing through the first song, then he got his tambourine and couldn't keep the rhythm. He squatted Jim Morrison- style in the corner of the stage, then started banging his mike stand into things, kicking amps and stuff." Meanwhile, the rest of the band -- guitarists William Reid and Ben Lurie, bassist Phil King (of Lush), and drummer Nick Saunderson -- attempted to play, as an expressionless -- and clearly angered -- William glared at his brother, looking as humiliated as the rest of the guys. Jim began screaming at Saunderson while he tried to continue playing, yelling things like, "Play anything but that!" William finally blurted out "Fuck him!" in an attempt to get the band to continue on with the song. "It was really depressing watching him fall apart and watching William get so frustrated," says Kirkland. "The audience was throwing ice and glasses, and spitting and yelling 'drug addicts,' but it wasn't affecting him." At one point, the roadies took Jim's mike stand away, then turned off his mike entirely. When he went to use William's stand, they intercepted and took that one away as well. Along the way, Jim would sing the wrong lines in the wrong songs; he started singing "I want to die like Jesus Christ" from "Reverence" in the middle of a song that was not "Reverence." The band kicked off the tour with Possum Dixon on Thursday (Sept. 10) in Ventura, Calif.; Mercury Rev picks up the tour in Austin, Texas Sept. 17 through Oct. 4. Stelljes says there are no plans for the tour to be canceled at this time. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:45:09 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Fegmaniax made redundant On 9/12/98 1:54 PM, Ross Overbury wrote: >> Danielle, pondering over a Costello one-liner - anyone? > >Graham Parker and the Attractions. The Rumour eat The Attractions for breakfast. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:30:25 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: Wow! On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, Eb quoted: > In what one concert goer described as "Jim Morrison meets Sid Vicious," sounds like a fall gig i once saw. 's funny, there's nothing like seeing a rock'n'roll show actually disintegrate into total anarchy to bleed the glamour from the notion - -- d. n.p. frank black and the catholics - - oh,no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmayowel@access.digex.net - - and dmw@mwmw.com ... get yr pathos at http://www.pathetic-caverns.com/ - - new reviews! tunes, books, flicks, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:46:14 -0400 From: "Chaney, Dolph L" Subject: I live again. Hello there! In case you tried to e-mail me in the last week or so and were greeted with a lovely bounce-back message, I'm back. I apologize for the inconvenience - -- belieeeeeeve me, it was not my idea: At about 1:30pm on Tuesday, the Georgia Power crew which was replacing the outside standing lamps on the campus grounds managed to cut the conduit containing our phone lines and T-1 Internet cables. Not in one spot -- in twelve spots. I suppose that the streaks of orange paint on the grass showing where the lines were, coupled with the verbal warning that "there are lines 18 inches below the ground, please don't dig more than 15 inches down", just weren't enough. After all, from what a friend of mine told me, the guys were having a hard enough time just keeping their pants up. So, Oglethorpe University didn't have any Internet connection for over six days. It just came up about an hour ago. My office still has no dial tone. Anyway, I just thought you'd want to know. Please re-send any vital messages you might have sent during that time. La la la, Dolph ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 98 21:26:22 -0600 From: steve Subject: New XTC book XTC: Song Stories by XTC & Neville Farmer should be in U.S. bookstores as of Monday, September 14. It's a song by song rundown of everything they've ever recorded, including the new album due in January. One interesting tidbit: V2 was so sure that they were going to sign XTC that they sent out demos to lots of potential producers *and* to record shops in Australia. Hyperion trade paperback, $14.95. - - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:52:00 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: those one-liners >> Boston is kinda like Kansas, Journey or Foreigner. >> Kansas is kinda like Boston, Foreigner or Journey. You can't compare Boston and Kansas. From what I recall, Boston is on the coast and Kansas is covered in cereal crops. To get between the two you need a Journey. Of course to me, they're both filled with Foreigners, but YMMV on that one. Neither of them are like Chicago. >Danielle (probably in the minority group of New Zealanders who have >actually read the Treaty of Waitangi, not to mention those who have >attempted to understand the controversy over 'kawanatanga' and >'rangatiratanga') which version? The English version, the Maori version, or the retranslated "English to Maori then back to English" version. Comparing the last and the first of these makes you realise why there are so many problems... James PS: Whatever happened to City Boy? PPS: a big welcome to Rebecca! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 23:02:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Electronic/Classical music I'm looking for other performers who work in the same genre as Isao Tomita. Has anyone any suggestions? Are the non-Tomita selections of the Plasma Music catalog worth investigating? What's this genre properly called, anyhow? ps-Last time we were talking about Klaatu, were we saying good things or bad things? pps-The "song about my life" was "Music from the Motion Picture" which is about going to see a movie because you'd only hear the single from the movie once over the next two hours, as opposed to staying home and hearing it five times on the radio. It's one of mine; I forget which movie it was originally about, but it was definitely pre-Titanic. I don't recall the other songs. site of the day: Sluggy Freelance (as featured on NPR) http://www.sluggy.com Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:20:38 -0700 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: Fegmaniac made redundant Hey, I just got made redundant (well, that's what the press release called it). And I spent the weekend listening to Leonard Cohen, Nick Cave and Lou Reed. I tried to listen to RH, but found him not angry or depressing enough for this situation. Even the marvelous "I Want to Destroy You" didn't have the real ring of anger that I needed. Just thought I'd share another sweet story from the global corporate front. Seriously thinking of a long journey which will touch on all continents - Love to make the feg connection in all of them! carrie "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** M.E.Ketone/C.Galbraith meketone@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 23:26:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Fuller Subject: from randi - re: Queen Elvis Demos Well...I have a copy of the Queen Elvis Demos. They are quite different from what appeared on the album - especially *Madonna* and *Wax Doll* and *Veins* - but they are ALL very obviously demos. Which leads me to a conudrum... See - - when I saw Robyn in Detroit {after the Billy Bragg tour - before the just finished U.S. tour} - he gave me a tape of the Queen Elvis demos... Now I wonder if they are different from the versions others are talking about. At that time - Robyn told me that from now on he was only going to do demos 'cause the versions that end up on his records are never as good. This is very much the case with Queen Elvis - the demos are soooooooooooooooooo much better - they make me love the QE songs...I can't help it. I have the cassette at home - as soon as I get out of the hospital - still pending - everyone welcome to the giant party afterwards ;} - I will send you a list Sir Bayard...if that is what you request :} I want to go home !!!! !!!! fading back into annoying hospital stuff and hopefully oblivion and cones ;} Randi *what scares you most will set you free* - Robyn Hitchcock *and the longer you hide...the more you deny* - Neil Finn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:48:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: beer (BS=100*) I need beer recommendations for the impending fegfest. Tom Clark, I'm looking in your direction. But I welcome any input from anyone... please provide brief description and percentages (get 25% this, etc) as well as any other valuable info - thanks! *BS= beer swigging ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #358 *******************************