From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #344 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, September 4 1998 Volume 07 : Number 344 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Long Pulp post, with a bit of Jackie And The Strangers (0 RH) ["Gary.Sedg] Re: beaver update (RHless) [Tom Clark ] I'd Like To See Bill Gates Dead [Jim_Neill@rhinorecords.com (Jim Neill)] I'd like to see ... [Ross Overbury ] Re: I'd like to see ... [Aaron Mandel ] Re: lovechild [Eb ] Re: I'd like to see ... [Gary Assassin ] Re: I'd like to see... [Ross Overbury ] Shark Fest Goings on... [X-Communicate ] Shark Fest Goings on... (corrected the errors, Doh!!--Sorry) [X-Communica] Re: lovechild [lj lindhurst ] Re: lovechild ["JH3" ] Re: Shark Fest Goings on... (corrected the errors, Doh!!--Sorry) [Tom Cla] Re: I'd like to see ... [Terrence M Marks ] Re: ThIs WeEkEnD iN FeGgYvIlLe [Martin_Bell@idg.co.nz] Van Fest!! (was Shark Fest...) [X-Communicate ] Re: I'd like to see ... [Danielle ] Randi... [Eb ] Re: ThIs WeEkEnD iN FeGgYvIlLe [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] [Fwd: Neutral Milk Hotel Review] ["Gary.Sedgwick" ] Re: No RH but some Ike Turner- Inventor of Metal! Plus gratuitous Gilligan [Miles Goosens ] Bye, Bye Johnny... ["Cliff L. Malloy" ] Re: not really *that* bored on a tuesday morning [dmw ] my once a week post (Mozzer, Phooey, 80's rock) [Ken Sabatini Subject: Long Pulp post, with a bit of Jackie And The Strangers (0 RH) Susan "ranted": > And before I start in on the big windup, I should add that this is not a > slam on Gary personally- phew!!! > >And now they just seem to be slowly drifting back into obscurity > > They spent 12 years in obscurity. I'm pretty sure they can handle it > alright :). Unlike the Oasis boys et al, Pulp paid some dues before > becoming successful. And their success was really something of a fluke, all > things considered. I think once you become mega-successful it becomes > pretty difficult to know who your actual friends are, but it may also be > disturbing to some that they don't know who their actual LISTENERS are. I > think it could just be that the members of Pulp want to know exactly that. > > >From the perspective of this one across-the-pond observer the UK pop scene > looks like Short Attention Span Theater. There's a new Beatles every > freakin week, and every freakin week some other band that was the most > amazing thing ever gets thrown out with the rest of the used kleenex and > the press and public are off to the races again. Firstly, I love Pulp. I think they still are one of the most important bands around. And I still buy the records. One thing I'm disappointed about is the fact that singles are being released from the new album which are not obvious singles, which don't grab you, which don't have a hook-line-and-sinker melody, however great otherwise the song may be. Because I don't think it's doing them any favours. And yes, it does all come down to the short attention span public led by the short attention span press - but the real culprit is the record labels. New bands don't get a chance - records labels offer stupid amounts of money to new bands for the first album, the band haven't learned their craft yet, the album flops, the record company drop the band, the band disappears and gets replaced by another in the following week's NME. But because of that, the whole music industry is geared towards here today gone tomorrow bands. So in Pulp's case, I don't think releasing a third or fourth single off the album is going to help them much - it probably won't help sell many more albums, and if anything will bring luke-warm reviews and disappoint the non-loyal fans. The other thing I'm disappointed about *is* the songs themselves. Granted, I haven't heard them in the context of the album. But *for me*, as individual songs, compared to those off of Different Class, the melodies are weaker and less memorable, the lyrics don't seem leaps and bounds better, and the sound is more or less exactly the same. And I'm not talking about "the stuff of Top 40 candyfloss dreams" - I'm talking about good songwriting. Anyway, it's all subjective, your viewpoint's as valid as mine, so there's no use arguing about what a good song is. > It's absolutely amazing. I > mean, this is a country where > "NOEL CALLS LIAM A CUNT"- by Sir Anthony Hated-Guest > > would be frontpage news, and "SADDAM ANNOUNCES INTENTION TO BLOW UP WORLD" > would be relegated to page 5. Hey, it's not that bad! The Middle East is dominating the press at the moment. And pop stars don't often make the front page, unless you're talking about The Sun or Sport. In fact, and I don't want this to sound like tit-for-tat, I think on the whole our press is pretty balanced (except about bloody Diana), more so than the American press - when I travelled around the States, I was amazed at how difficult it was to find out world news if it didn't involve America in some way. > The UK obsession with this week's pop stars > absolutely blows my mind. And most of them are musically mediocre. As far > as I can tell it doesn't seem to have a whole lot to do with music. There > is this oddball obsession with number ones and sales that seems to permeate > EVERYTHING, and a downright rabid television and press industry that's > propped up by it. Built-in disposability is part of what makes it run, and > it's so damn easy for even talented people to become has-beens quickly. As I said, I reckon most of it stems from the record labels themselves. So the records labels are at the bottom, propping up the press and media, which in turn is feeding the minds of the average record buying public. And the bands are getting trampled under the whole lot of 'em. > I'm amazed at > how long the Gallaghers have hung on, frankly. Boys, keep fighting, because > Lord knows your music ain't going to keep them interested for long :). I second that! (there aren't any Liam fans on this list, are there...) > >only vaguely memorable single off the new album so far. The Different > >Class singles are played on pub juke boxes all the time - the new ones > >aren't. Popularity doesn't equal musical value, but we are talking > >about the singles market here. > > Again, I think this is a fairly UK-centric POV (no, that's NOT a knock, > it's an observation :)). Remember that my perspective may be summat > different because Pulp is far from a hit band over here, in fact, they are > only a few percentage points LESS obscure than they were 3 years ago. So > "dive into obscurity" does look a little dramatic from over here because in > effect over here they ARE a cult band :). Well, this is certainly different - you probably get to see Jarvis guesting on comedy shows more than hear Pulp records on the radio (OK, an exaggeration, but you get the picture). And it's not that we aren't hearing anything of them any more - but what we have heard (concert reviews, single reviews) hasn't been good. > I don't fear > at all that they will disappear altogether, but probably will continue on > as they did before. I hope so! Problem is, they can't go on like they did before - they're too big to do even medium size venues. So what do they do? > Er, if you don't mind my asking, what kind of American chart? Brandy and > Toni Braxton and all that garbage, or Matchbox 20 and that garbage, or some > mix of both? :) Top 20 stuff, the whole bloody time. And MTV's not much better. I hate Jamiroquai. With a vengeance. > I remember once in Germany listening to the radio and being very perplexed > by a German hit that went something like "She speaks American English/She > speaks the language of loovvvve". WHAT? Also a fairly droll version of > "ObLaDi ObLaDa" by I swear ta God, what appeared to be a polka band made up > of non-English speakers. While we're on the subject of eccentric German bands, a friend of mine flew over recently to attend a maths conference in the university in Berlin. They held a party night, and the headline band was "Jackie And The Strangers". Now all of the band were over sixty - Jackie himself was about seventy-two, and a completely round, moustachioed, black-haired, sweaty, scary man. And they played 50s hits - *some* of them fairly well (especially the surf), although the German-accented Elvis numbers left a lot to be desired. The mathematicians loved it though!!! We didn't stay long... Gary ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:14:53 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: beaver update (RHless) On 9/2/98 9:43 PM, Danielle wrote: >Danielle, wondering if Natalie could make her a Tinfoil Beaver (tm) >for an appropriate fee I gotta see this... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:04:55 -0700 From: Jim_Neill@rhinorecords.com (Jim Neill) Subject: I'd Like To See Bill Gates Dead this is worth the effort. > > >>> Open up Word and type: > > >>> I'd like to see Bill Gates dead. > > >>> Select the entire sentence then go into Tools, Thesaurus. > > >>> I think there are some disgruntled Microsoft employees out > > there! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 98 14:32:33 EDT From: Ross Overbury Subject: I'd like to see ... Apparently this disgruntled Microsoft employee had a thing for Bill's mom. "I'd like to see Bill Gates' mother dressed in rubber" yields the same result. - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:12:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: I'd like to see ... On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Ross Overbury wrote: > Apparently this disgruntled Microsoft employee had a thing for Bill's > mom. "I'd like to see Bill Gates' mother dressed in rubber" yields the > same result. that's because the thesaurus, presented with a phrase it can't even guess at, suggests the next thing in alphabetical order. it's not a hidden message. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:31:22 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: lovechild Gary: >(there aren't any Liam fans on this list, are there...) Well, I hear LJ is planning her ovulation schedule around Oasis's next tour.... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:37:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary Assassin Subject: Re: I'd like to see ... Yeah, this isn't so great, especially when you get the same answer when you put in: "I'd like to take a six inch replica of the Empire State Building and shove it up my nose until it sticks out of the top of my head." ------------------------------------ If you have a condom and sunscreen SPF 15 or greater, than it's safe to look at http://www.panix.com/~gsa/index.html On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Aaron Mandel wrote: > On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Ross Overbury wrote: > > > Apparently this disgruntled Microsoft employee had a thing for Bill's > > mom. "I'd like to see Bill Gates' mother dressed in rubber" yields the > > same result. > > that's because the thesaurus, presented with a phrase it can't even guess > at, suggests the next thing in alphabetical order. it's not a hidden > message. > > a > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 98 15:45:30 EDT From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: I'd like to see... > On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Ross Overbury wrote: > > > Apparently this disgruntled Microsoft employee had a thing for Bill's > > mom. "I'd like to see Bill Gates' mother dressed in rubber" yields the > > same result. > > >Yeah, this isn't so great, especially when you get the same answer when >you put in: > >"I'd like to take a six inch replica of the Empire State Building and >shove it up my nose until it sticks out of the top of my head." You mean there really isn't anyone else who'd like to see .... - -- "Are you dancing dead, or maybe walking toast?" -- Happy Rhodes Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:57:34 -0700 (PDT) From: X-Communicate Subject: Shark Fest Goings on... I will not be able to attend the West Coast's version of the party. I fear that, however unrealistic this may sound, reality is a bit too steady right now. I do deeply regret not being able to be the temporary ambassador from Mark's homeland. Things must go on without me. However, I have devised a contest for all in attendance can enjoy. Since, Mark has claim a lack of planned activities for the event, this one will help fill that gap. The contest is simple, much like a scavenger hunt without too much scavenging. I propose that the first person to mail me BOTH of Tom's vanity plate--you know the ones, with FEGMNIA blazed across them--wins a prize. The first person to bring me BOTH the plates still ATTACHED to Tom's car wins a BIGGER prize. The rules are simple: 1) The goods must be turned in within one week or the party. 2) No person or groups of person of persons with the name of Clark are allowed to enter or redeem prizes, or have other people redeem prizes for them. 3) All goods redeemed for prizes become property of Chris Gillis Schemes BONUS Contest: This is the honorary Bunny Lindhurst contest. Involved here is the same contest, but with on added condition. To win a EVEN GREATER prize, combine BOTH of Tom's plates still attached to his car *and* DEAN WAREHAM'S UNDERWEAR freeze dried on a STICK in the TRUCK. Please, dive trunk contents to LJ's Brooklyn address BEFORE you bring the car and BOTH plates to me. All contents must be confirmed by our independent New York consultants and the crack team of investigators in the western Great Basin. over, .chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:04:09 -0700 (PDT) From: X-Communicate Subject: Shark Fest Goings on... (corrected the errors, Doh!!--Sorry) Proofread version: I will not be able to attend the West Coast's version of the party. I fear that, however unrealistic this may sound, reality is a bit too steady right now. I do deeply regret not being able to be the temporary ambassador from Mark's homeland. Things must go on without me. However, I have devised a contest for all in attendance to enjoy. Since, Mark has claimed a lack of planned activities for the event, this one will help fill that gap. The contest is simple, much like a scavenger hunt without too much scavenging. I propose that the first person to mail me BOTH of Tom's vanity plates--you know the ones, with FEGMNIA blazed across them--wins a prize. The first person to bring me BOTH the plates still ATTACHED to Tom's car wins a BIGGER prize. The rules are simple: 1) The goods must be turned in within one week or the party. 2) No person or groups of persons with the name of Clark are allowed to enter or redeem prizes, or have other people redeem prizes for them. 3) All goods redeemed for prizes become property of Chris Gillis Schemes. BONUS Contest: This is the honorary Bunny Lindhurst contest. Involved here is the same contest, but with on added condition. To win a EVEN GREATER prize, combine BOTH of Tom's plates still attached to his car *and* DEAN WAREHAM'S UNDERWEAR freeze dried on a STICK in the TRUNK. Please, dive trunk contents to LJ's Brooklyn address BEFORE you bring the car and BOTH plates to me. All contents must be confirmed by our independent New York consultants and the crack team of investigators in the western Great Basin. Spelling and proof reading correctly now, .chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:21:01 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: lovechild >Well, I hear LJ is planning her ovulation schedule around Oasis's next >tour.... You can PLAN your ovulation schedule?!?!?! DO TELL....! lj, who is thinking she would like to have a tinfoil ovulation schedule ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:06:38 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: lovechild >>Well, I hear LJ is planning her ovulation schedule around Oasis's next >>tour.... >You can PLAN your ovulation schedule?!?!?! I think the scheduling feature of the latest upgrade to Microsoft Ovulate for Windows lets you do that, but I heard that one of their executives put a "logic bomb" in there that causes your baby to come out horribly deformed if the program finds a Netscape web browser on your machine. JH3, back from vacation and more rotten than ever ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:38:25 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Shark Fest Goings on... (corrected the errors, Doh!!--Sorry) On 9/3/98 1:04 PM, X-Communicate wrote: >To win a EVEN GREATER prize, combine BOTH of Tom's plates still >attached to his car *and* DEAN WAREHAM'S UNDERWEAR freeze dried on a >STICK in the TRUNK. Please, dive trunk contents to LJ's Brooklyn >address BEFORE you bring the car and BOTH plates to me. Don't got no trunk - it's a minivan. How about Dean's freeze dried underwear on a TURK instead? - -t "Touch my van - I'll fuckin' kill ya" c ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:05:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: I'd like to see ... On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Gary Assassin wrote: > Yeah, this isn't so great, especially when you get the same answer when > you put in: > > "I'd like to take a six inch replica of the Empire State Building and > shove it up my nose until it sticks out of the top of my head." For those of us who don't have this program, what's it do? Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:11:32 +1200 From: Martin_Bell@idg.co.nz Subject: Re: ThIs WeEkEnD iN FeGgYvIlLe The rubber-finned one spake: >I live at 536 Maple St. Aptos, CA, USA (in case some NZ fegs might be >driving) Sadly, I won't be able to attend, but strangely enough, I once had an interesting conversation with one of your countrymen regarding modes of transportation. It was late '89, I was touring your fair country, coast-to-coast, in a wood-panelled Chrysler le Baron station wagon. Brady Bunch, eat your heart out. Anyways, myself and my two travelling companions stopped in a small town in rural Georgia to gas up the car. I went to pay for the gas, and the proprietor instantly recognized I wasn't from those parts. "You're not from these parts, are you boy?", he said. "No sir, we're from New Zealand", I replied. "New Zealand, eh? How'd you boys get here, by bus?" "eerrrmm (tm)" (with apologies to eb), I said, shuffling my feet. "Hey girls! We got ourselves a boy from Noo Zeeland, here", he yelled out back. Nervously I began edging towards the door, wondering if it was worth trying to explain the concept of a big flying silver bus with wings. "Hey, don't go. I'd like you to meet my daughters." And with that two lovely young ladies, who left me in no doubt that their parents were first cousins, emerged from the back room. The faint sound of duelling banjos could be heard on the wind. "Lovely to meet you all. I really must be going". I bolted out the door, slid Dukes of Hazard style across the bonnet of the car, fired the behemoth up, and in a screech black rubber, we high-tailed it out of there. This is a true story. Danielle (now residing in the Southern States), there's no reason to be alarmed :) Me a wafflehead Martin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:11:21 -0700 (PDT) From: X-Communicate Subject: Van Fest!! (was Shark Fest...) > Don't got no trunk - it's a minivan. All the better. I would much prefer that to the rumored "chopped, dropped and thumped!" 64 Impala that Nick had mentioned so much, but I'll take whatever people can get. Just remember, it has to have BOTH plates. > How about Dean's freeze dried > underwear on a TURK instead? The Interstate Commerce Act has to prohibit the transport, either knowingly or unknowingly even if not done with malice, any number of foreign persons or native born persons with of any ethnicity. Thus, I think we should not allow this addition to the plot. However, if you do get the van, feel free to put a turk in its place. That way we will not leave the Clark's with naught. .chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:15:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielle Subject: Re: I'd like to see ... > For those of us who don't have this program, what's it do? It happens with Works as well. When you put 'I'd like to see Bill Gates dead' into the thesaurus, it suggests 'I'll drink to that'. ;) Danielle, who thought it was funny despite it not being deliberate _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:37:37 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Randi... Isn't this her address? ct965@freenet.toronto.on.ca It seems to be dead. You out there, Randi? Ebby ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:40:14 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: ThIs WeEkEnD iN FeGgYvIlLe >.... >"Hey, don't go. I'd like you to meet my daughters." And with that two >lovely young ladies, who left me in no doubt that their parents were first >cousins, emerged from the back room. The faint sound of duelling banjos >could be heard on the wind. >"Lovely to meet you all. I really must be going". All of this should be comforting to DOT Chris in Reno, the place of my afterbirth. In Nevada they draw the line at second cousins. I mean they may be knuckledraggers, but they's palms ain't hairy. >I bolted out the door, slid Dukes of Hazard style across the bonnet of the >car, fired the behemoth up, and in a screech black rubber, we high-tailed >it out of there. Say, PBS plays Dukes a' Hazard down there, I hear. >This is a true story. Danielle (now residing in the Southern States), >there's no reason to be alarmed :) Actually, Danielle has managed to settle in perhaps our most charming southern state. She may be unable to date down there due to the absence of relatives, tho... One of my best friends, who will be at the party, is from Louisiana. It seems like many of the cajuns have a zest for life that is pretty absent from most of Americans. And, hey, they like music, even if it's made with windbags and kitchen utensils. Hope you all have a great weekend. I'm just betting I will. Happies, hope to se lots of ya', - -Department of Sharkology ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 16:41:21 +0100 From: "Gary.Sedgwick" Subject: [Fwd: Neutral Milk Hotel Review] They're all appearing in MM at the moment... Gary From: Info - Blue Rose Subject: Neutral Milk Hotel Review Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:32:48 +0100 Review in this weeks Melody Maker.. NEUTRAL MILK HOTEL=20 THE GARAGE, LONDON 18TH AUGUST 1998 "..While NEUTRAL MILK HOTEL's gorgeous, ragged stomp winks in the = direction of Sixties folk pop luminaries like Simon & Garfunkel, chief = Milk man Jeff Mangum - tumbling good-naturedly into cohort Julian = Koster during "Holland 1945", slicing through the dissonance with a = choking, melancholic "Oh Comely", showering the audience with the = gorgeous "In the Aeroplane Over The Sea" - is too consumed by his own = gonzo genius to be anything other than a 24-carat original. Acoustic shanties are accompanied by singing saws; mariachi horns and = psychedelic brass wail joyously through glorious shambling lo-fi slams. A heavily lubricated Mangum keeps launching his platinum larynx towards = the sky, as song after song collapses good-naturedly into itself, dusts = itself off, kicks in again and shudders onwards. A mixture of charisma = and melodic clarity amid the disarray means that the entire audience = succumbs to a warm, beaming smile by the time the cacophonous fanfare = of the untitled finale is sounded. Wonderful unreservedly recommended madness." STEVIE CHICK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:12:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielle Subject: duelling banjos Martin and Mark speculated: > >This is a true story. Danielle (now residing in the Southern States), > >there's no reason to be alarmed :) > > Actually, Danielle has managed to settle in perhaps our most charming > southern state. She may be unable to date down there due to the absence > of relatives, tho... Luckily, according to your rules for southern dating etiquette, I *will* be able to date. All up, I have 19 older first cousins in Louisiana, and that's not even *counting* their vast array of children. One of them is bound to rock my world, I'm sure - it's only a matter of time. I'll keep you posted on romantic inbreeding developments. > One of my best friends, who will be at the party, is from Louisiana. It > seems like many of the cajuns have a zest for life that is pretty absent > from most of Americans. Joie de vivre! Even if only half-Cajun, I have that in spades. Just ask Eb, who rolled his eyes frequently at my general chirpiness and 'I'm in LA! I'm in LA! This is so cool!' overexcitement. Poor man, I was a trial to him. Danielle, still as Kiwi as a good hard gumboot-throwing competition (I won't start telling Boudreaux and Thibideaux jokes just yet, ta muchly) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 22:32:38 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: No RH but some Ike Turner- Inventor of Metal! Plus gratuitous Gilligan At 02:52 AM 9/3/98 -0600, amadain wrote: >And FWIW I also wonder where the latter thing ends. Did Page actually >secretly play guitar on 90 percent of singles released in that era, or >what?!!!???? What's so incredible about the idea of the guitarists of the >bands in question having played on the singles in question? :) Jimmy Page is the Abner Doubleday of rock and roll. He thinks he invented everything, did everything first. (Abner Doubleday claimed to have invented baseball, fired the first Union shot of the American Civil War, etc., etc. It was actually Steve Allen who did those things, but that's beside the point.) later, Miles, who actually does like both Led Zep and the Who ====================================================================== "If a million people say a stupid thing, it is still a stupid thing." -- Anatole France Miles Goosens outdoorminer@mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~outdoorminer/miles ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 01:32:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Moondoggin' After listening to Yes and The Beach Boys, I have one burning question. What the heck is a moon dog? Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 23:08:27 -0700 From: "Cliff L. Malloy" Subject: Bye, Bye Johnny... To my fellow Fegmaniax... This is my final transmission to the land of Fegmania... I would like to thank everyone for all of the great moments that I've had in the last month or so (even YOU, Eb), and that you continue to keep the great conversations going... I am spending WAY too much time now reading messages here instead of doing what I need to do (transferring my massive record collection to digital MP3's)... So I will leave you with this sentiment (slightly modified) from the Fabulous Furry Freak Bros... "Music will get you thru times with no money better than money will get thru times with no music"... See ya in MP3 land... Cliff L. Malloy Mousestalker Cliff's last Album of the day... "Hi Times Box Set" Various - EMI Records - 1996 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 08:43:27 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: not really *that* bored on a tuesday morning On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Aaron Mandel wrote: > guilty about liking Miller, Eb, but anyway he's certainly not peddling > fourth-rate Material Issue rehashes like his supposed scenemates.) very yeesh, yeah, whyever can't we have fourth-rate Spongetones rehashes instead?? you can consider that a plug for the new reish of _where-ever-land_ if you like. not crossing the street for 2nd rate material issue, meself, and crossing the street to avoid 3rd and 4th rate. - -- d. - - oh,no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmayowel@access.digex.net - - and dmw@mwmw.com ... get yr pathos at http://www.pathetic-caverns.com/ - - new reviews! tunes, books, flicks, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 12:24:32 -0700 From: Mike Runion Subject: Mercury Rev Hey all, Anyone out there (Eb?) heard the new Mercury Rev album _Deserters Songs_ yet? I just read a pretty good review over at Addicted To Noise, which namechecks both Olivia Tremor Control and our favorite artist around here, Neutral Milk Hotel. I've got the three previous albums and, while liking them, have never really loved them. Sounds like the new album might do the trick. Anybody? - -- Mike Runion Cocoa, FL, USA /******************************************************************\ | VCM: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/cones.htm | | Fegmaps: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/fegmaps | | Spoken Word Tape: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/wordtape.htm | \******************************************************************/ "Wait a minute. Time for a Planetary Sit-In!" - Julian Cope ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:25:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Sabatini Subject: my once a week post (Mozzer, Phooey, 80's rock) Time again for my once a week post (all condensed into a single easy-to-delete file--for your pleasure): 1.On Morrissey Said someone: >still the phooey album of the decade HAS to be Morrissey: Your Arsenal. >In fact, he's the phooey artist of the decade Said Kenster: > oh brother! he's had a good string of nifty albums and 'your arsenal' is > the cream of the crop. robyn did a morrissey cover. so lay off. Said Michael: >So, phooey on "Zooropa" and phooey on U2, who easily beat out Morrissey >for *my* phooey artist of the decade (without Johnny Marr, what did you >really expect?--hell, I'm just happy to have gotten "Vauxhall and I" out >of him!). Me (Ken S.): I think Morrissey is one of the great wasted talents of the current day. When I hear "Vauxhall and I" or the "Sunny" EP, it really strikes me what he still can do. Then I hear "Your Arsenal" and "Maladjusted" and I'm hesitant to ever give another new Morrissey disc a single listen. I think he needs to enlist a fresh songwriting team and drop the Boorer/Whyte team. Moz without Marr may be a lot less consistent, but it goes both ways--Marr without Moz is also a bit shaky: exhibit A being the second Electronic disc. (An aside: Heck, I'd rate "Vauxhall and I" higher than "Strangeways Here We Come.") 2. On Amps said Kenster: >The Amps/Pacer [rating a "phooey"] compared to what? there's some great >stuff on this one. said Eb: >The Pixies, the Breeders, Kelley Deal 6000...several dozen other records >released that year.... That album sounded to me like it was written in a >hour, and recorded in two. Epitomizes "half-assed." I agree with Eb here and on many of his other recent Phooey discs. I think the Amps disc could have made a great 7 inch single: Dedicated as the A-side and one B-side cut. Uh oh. I just disagreed with two points made by Kenster. I can feel a battle coming on: Ken "Kenster" Osterland(?) vs. Ken "Kendaddy" Sabatini. Its 'go time.' :) 3. 80's rock: A few of my personal favorites from the 80's: * Billy Bragg "Workers' Playtime" * Robyn Hitchcock & the Egyptians "Element of Light" * The Bats "Daddy's Highway" * The Church "Seance" * The Smiths "Hatful of Hollow" * The Go-Betweens "Before Hollywood" * The Cure "Disintegration" * (probably one New Order disc as well) I'm amazed at how long it's been since I've played any of these. Self indulgently, Ken ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #344 *******************************