From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #342 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, September 2 1998 Volume 07 : Number 342 Today's Subjects: ----------------- "..." [Marshall Joseph Armintor ] Cocker 100%, Hitchcocker 0% ["Gary.Sedgwick" ] chops on the grill ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Heavy Metal gentry [The Great Quail ] Re: [Fwd: Melody Maker Review and Photo - Tim Keegan and the Homer Lounge] [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Re: Heavy Metal gentry [Terrence M Marks ] Re: if I had a hammer... [Tom Clark ] Re: Heavy Metal gentry ["Glen Uber" ] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Everclear_(100%_R._Hitchcock_content,_=B1100%?= ) [Jason T] Re: not really *that* bored on a tuesday morning ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: not really *that* bored on a tuesday morning [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Everclear_(100%_R._Hitchcock_content,_±100% ) [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: Pope, Titanic (Re: not really *that* bored on a tuesday morning) ["Ca] Re: chops on the grill [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: Pope, Titanic (Re: not really *that* bored on a tuesday morning) [Ros] Re: Pope, Titanic (Re: not really *that* bored on a tuesday [Russ Reynold] Fwd: Re: if I had a hammer... [Tom Clark ] Re: chops on the grill [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 10:35:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Marshall Joseph Armintor Subject: "..." << >> i'm nothing like an expert on the chronology, but, listening to >> that album always makes me wonder if mick ronson invented heavy >> metal. > >"It wasn't called heavy metal when I invented it." >- --Dave Davies The term Heavy Metal was coined by Steppenwolf (in "Born to be wild"). I've also heard suggestions that Heavy Metal as a gentre was invented by (you guessed it) King Crimson!>> Right, there are zillion starting points for the Genre Formerly Known As Heavy Metal and is now Speed Metal, Thrash Metal, Death Metal, or just Metal. Supposedly, Eric Burdon declared in an interview that the term popped up in a description of Hendrix live which read that Jimi's music was like "heavy metal falling from the sky"; plenty of people point to the Naked Lunch--Steppenwolf thing, but I didn't have the patience to find where in the book those two words were juxtaposed; obviously the Kinks had quite a role in the development of distortion; John Lennon said once that, believe it or not, "Ticket to Ride" was the first "Heavy Metal" record because of the way the drums sounded to him. Plenty of "heavy music" out there pre-1970, but my vote for the first metal album goes to Black Sabbath's _Paranoid_ (1970). They're from bloody Birmingham, enough said. On second thought...."21th Century Schizoid Man" is probably the first real HM tune. I remember reading an interview with Fripp in Option a few years back that talked about the first times they played live, opening for another band. Something like, "...the audience was smoked, doped and tripping, and so were we. They hadn't really heard of us, so they didn't know what to expect. We came out on stage, and played '21st Century Schizoid Man' -- it was like a giant foot had come down and squashed them all. WHAM!" Although in the same article, Fripp decried the notion that his music had anything to do with metal, because he eschewed power chords and triads, because they were too pleasing to the ear -- Metal is just loud, maybe in a minor key, but boring music-theory wise. Also: don't forget to surf over to www.wallofsound.com and stuff the ballot box for Moss Elixir on the 90s ballot. marshall np Eric Dolphy, _Out to Lunch_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 17:54:21 +0100 From: "Gary.Sedgwick" Subject: Cocker 100%, Hitchcocker 0% Susan wrote: >>Saw the new Pulp single ("Party Hard" was it?) on German MTV this >>morning. > >"The Party's Over". Now I'm sure the subtitle said "Party Hard", but nothing would surprise me about German MTV. >>Jarvis for Bowie impersonations. Oh and sorry Susan, I didn't think >>much of it. The TIH singles are just lacking so much. > >I've noticed how disappointed people are at the way they're sorely lacking >in that "exactly like Different Class" quality :). I'm not sure why this >upsets people so, nor why it's so damn surprising- anyone familiar with >previous work would know that "Different Class" is much more anomalous vis >a vis the rest of their music than "TIH" is. > >You know, it is also an album where the songs work together and play off >each other, not particularly singles-oriented, and granted they do suffer >out of context, rather as if I plucked out my eye and handed it to you >(apologies to Coleridge :)). It doesn't *upset* me, it disappoints me... the reaction to Different Class, especially the Common People single, was absolutely huge in this country (er, England that is, not Germany... I forget where I am these days!). Pulp suddenly turned "Britpop" on its head by producing songs with great memorable melodies, intelligent and witty lyrics, and synths in place of your obligatory over-the-top distorted guitars. And now they just seem to be slowly drifting back into obscurity... granted, it may be because TIH was meant as an 'album' album rather than a 'singles' album, but then why release so many singles from it (was this 3rd or 4th?)? People were humming Common People as soon as it came out, and then Sorted, Disco 2000, Something Changed - IMHO Help The Aged is the only vaguely memorable single off the new album so far. The Different Class singles are played on pub juke boxes all the time - the new ones aren't. Popularity doesn't equal musical value, but we are talking about the singles market here. > >Um, incidentally, any particular reason this came up now and addressed to >me personally? It's not as if I'm the only person on earth who was >impressed with this album, raving alone on a mountaintop, nor were any >comments about having a weakness for glam meant to imply that I consider >any Pulp album among my "closet dud" musical possessions. Especially not >this one. > Nothing personal intended in the least... it came up now because it was one of the more interesting things on MTV, which is the only TV I can understand here and not be completely bored with (they do have the BBC world service too!). And the Berlin radio stations are a mix of American chart and country!!! (except for one show which John Peel presents for an hour a week - very unexpected. Quite often he says, "sorry for not speaking German again this week... but you have to admit, I bring you some damn fine records"!) So I don't get much musically to talk about here. And after saying I didn't think much of the song, I remembered you saying you liked the album a great deal, so... It wasn't a personal dig. Gary ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 12:04:04 -0400 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: chops on the grill Marshall Joseph Armintor sed: > Plenty of "heavy music" out there pre-1970, but my vote for the first >metal album goes to Black Sabbath's _Paranoid_ (1970). They're from >bloody Birmingham, enough said. > On second thought...."21th Century Schizoid Man" is probably the first >real HM tune. Sure, but there's one big difference: chops. Black Sabbath were troglodytes with guitars in a cave after a fruitless day of hunting, and King Crimson were their neighbors with the gas grill full of filet mignon and lots of shiny new utensils. But yeah, they both rocked. On another note, has anybody else noticed a general lack of musicianship or chops nowadays? Am I crazy, or are there are fewer bands out there who are genuinely *good* at what they do? Say, a group who has mastered their instruments and their musicianship, and still have the joy of musical creation, to the extent King Crimson have? I mean, there are few live acts nowadays that can put on a show like KC or Zappa do or did, right? If I'm wrong, kindly tell me. Other than some free jazz I've seen lately (and Neutral Milk Hotel), I am rarely astounded, engrossed, or entertained by live bands. >np Eric Dolphy, _Out to Lunch_ Whoa. Speaking of originators or genre, my pals and I often think of that very album as one of the first Industrial albums (facetiously, of course). But listening to Bobby Hutcherson's mean, atonal planks and whonks on his xylophone makes me think Whoa, this guy's really ahead of his time and predating Throbbing Gristle and Einsturzende Neubauten by decades. But jeez do I love that record. I would have loved to see that outfit perform live. Would have been too much. ++++++++ Gene Hopstetter, Jr. + Online Design Guy http://extra.newsguy.com/~genehop/ ++++++++ Yoda. The other white meat. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 98 12:27:03 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Heavy Metal gentry M.R. "Agent Lee" Godwin writes, >I have a suspicion that it originates in William Burroughs's oeuvre, >probably in the Naked Lunch. And doesn't that album 'Hapshash and the >Coloured Coat featuring the Human Host and the Heavy Metal Kids' predate >BTBW? Most assuredly, but almost all worlds and phrases can be found in the Books of Bill. . . . especially if you cut them up yourself. I once lost a dear friend that way -- he did his own cut-up of "Nova Express" and ended up discovering the true name of God, and was consequently translated into a being of pure spiritual energy and ascended to the throne of heaven. I believe Yes wrote a song about him. B-u-t, if we want to be specific about it, the term "Heavy metal" was coined over 150 years ago by chemists -- Germans! Always those pesky Germans! -- to indicate metals which we now place in the transitional and inner-transitional groups. This translates well, of course, and shows an amazing prescience for the advent of such groups as Iron Butterfly, Iron Maiden, Judas Preist's "British Steel," Urianium Heep, and of course Mark Gloster and the Big Rutherfordium Shark. As an interesting Fun-Fact, the metal Tungsten is swedish for "Heavy Metal," an infobit I always thought should be taken advantage of -- that is, if Sweden ever made music that wasn't in the vein of Abba and Ace of Base. . . . - --Niels "Soft Quail" Bohr PS: "W" by the way, stands for the German name Wolfram, which is derived from miner's slang for "wolf crap." Think about that next time you turn on a lightbulb. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth "Countlessness of livestories have netherfallen by this plage, flick as flowflakes, litters from aloft, like a waast wizzard all of whirlworlds. Now are all tombed to the mound, isges to isges, erde from erde . . . (Stoop) if you are abcedminded, to this claybook, what curious of signs (please stoop) in this allaphbed! Can you rede (since We and Thou had it out already) its world? . . . Speak to us of Emailia!" --James Joyce, Finnegans Wake ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:32:41 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: [Fwd: Melody Maker Review and Photo - Tim Keegan and the Homer Lounge] >>>>> "Gary" == Gary Sedgwick writes: Gary> Typical MM review ("yellow filter cast" indeed)... Yep; beware of low-flying adjectives. The adjective is the banana peel of the parts of speech. -- Clifton Fadiman - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 12:54:53 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: Cocker 100%, Hitchcocker 0% >>>Saw the new Pulp single ("Party Hard" was it?) on German MTV this >>>morning. >> >>"The Party's Over". > >Now I'm sure the subtitle said "Party Hard", but nothing would surprise >me about German MTV. the name of the song is, indeed, 'party hard'. maybe susan was being cute. ken "a little soul" the kenster ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 13:12:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Heavy Metal gentry > As far as the musical gentry are concerned, Dave Davies has as good a > claim as anyone (unless of course it was Jimmy Page who actually played on > 'You really got me' - was that ever resolved?) Yeah. He very definitely didn't play lead on that track, Dave did. Page may have played rhythm. (And I'm surprised that "who invented this genre" thread hasn't degenerated yet. I've seen Syd Barrett credited with inventing punk...) Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 10:33:08 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: if I had a hammer... On 9/2/98 8:21 AM, Russ Reynolds wrote: >In the Partidge family episode this was described as "the Pibald Syndrome" >(they didn't spell it and I'm not going to look it up). Question: All of >us have had braces or fillings at some point in our lives. Has ANYONE ever >heard a radio station in his/her mouth? Bonus points if they were playing a >Hitchcock tune. Never a radio station. But between the ages of 11 and 13, a filling in my rear left molar would receive daily updates on the whereabouts of Carl Palmer. I was instructed to seek him out and kill him so he would stop stalking innocent schizophreniacs. Unfortunately, I was in Long Island and I couldn't drive yet... - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 10:41:53 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Re: Heavy Metal gentry On 2 Sep 98, at 13:12, Terrence M Marks wrote: > I've seen Syd Barrett credited with inventing punk...) Naahhh...that would be ? and the Mysterians. - -g- )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( Glen Uber Email: uberg@sonic.net ICQ UIN: 13311304 Web: http://www.sonic.net/~uberg "The war on drugs is a joke and we the people are the punch line." --From a letter to the Editor The Santa Rosa Press Democrat, 31 July 1998 )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 10:55:15 -0700 From: Jason Thornton Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Everclear_(100%_R._Hitchcock_content,_=B1100%?= ) I was in a used CD store this weekend, and most of the little card separators between sections had "see also" suggestions on them. At first, I thought they were informational, such as "Peter Murphy, see also Bauhaus." But then I got to the RH section, the separator of which read "R. Hitchcock, see also Everclear." Huh? - --Jason Thornton - --Jason ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 11:04:21 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: not really *that* bored on a tuesday morning >anton barbeau i'll let sydney handle this one. >i spy "subversive punkers." all their songs were recently compiled and put onto one cd, called PERVERSITY IS SPREADING...IT'S ABOUT TIME!!! the cover is a very cool drawing of three people shitting all over the pope (with the proviso in the liner notes that it could have been any religious or political leader.) put out by the g-7 welcoming committee (ha ha ha! what *were* those idiots thinking when they expanded the g-7 to the g-8 by adding russia? the state of the russian economy is no laughing matter to the people who live there, of course (to quote michael parenti: "they wanted capitalism, and they're getting it right up the kazoo." and he said this a couple years ago, when people were still at least getting *paid*.) but it *is* pretty comical that every time the imf declares a new "miracle economy", said economy goes straight down the crapper.) >james kelman >tom leonard "subversive spoken word." ak press audio. >me first and the gimme gimmes punk covers. my fave is their cover of Uptown Girl. they've been mentioned on this list before. fat wreck chords. >the previous very good band out of olympia. bandleader andras jones used to be on the dan bern list. city limits. >rhythm activism "subversive, uh, rhythmers." >!tchkung! you've never heard of these guys, eb? i'm stunned. really. tim/kerr. they've got a new record coming out end of this month, i think. here are a few sample reviews: XLR8R - August 94 As many as five drummers assaulting all forms of metal and wood. Male and female vocals shooting from 4AD-style wailing to skewering rants and back. Fire-eating. Someone driving a flaming rod through an oil drum. Two didjeridoo players. Bass guitar, the only standard instrument. Dancing that occasionally propelled the bacchanals across the Wall's ever-tasteful, tableclothed tables. An aggregation of performers so large it could not fit on the stage. The sheer physicality of the music came home when an iron object-cum-percussive device careened into my right shin, the force of impact sufficient to bring it back to the circle of dancers engaged in some primal unhinged version of Hacky Sack. I stood with my mouth open, thinking, I want to be in this band. Actually, ¡TchKunG! doesn't deserve being thought of as a band. It is a modern expression of shamanism, a conduit to a completely different and more genuine form of community, a catalytic political entity. Anything but a group of people separated from a group of observers. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Rocket Bumbershoot Guide - 1995 If only because their show last year caused a riot (quite literally), you won't want to miss the rare performance by Seattle's favorite merry pranksters (bring your video cameras and gas masks). ¡TchKunG! play a very unique mix of tribal and industrial music that's not quite like anything you've ever heard before. Certainly their concert experience is different, as the band has as many members in the audience (beating drums or dancing) as they do on-stage. Consider it a multi-media event, in the flesh. Crowds have been known to swoon, strip naked, and get in fights with the police all during one long, trance-like song. After last year's riot/show, the band went into hiding for a while and then took a break, but now they are back at it (If you miss them here, they'll also be at NXNW in Portland). Bring earplugs, condoms, and fire-retardant clothing. >mark ross "subversive folker." his album, LOOK FOR ME IN BUTTE, was produced by utah phillips, and utah wrote a few of the songs. highest possible recommendation. <>dan bern Who??> eb, apart from the quail, i don't think anybody on this list makes me laugh out loud as frequently as yourself. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 13:30:59 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: Cocker 100%, Hitchcocker 0% >>>>Saw the new Pulp single ("Party Hard" was it?) on German MTV this >>>>morning. >>> >>>"The Party's Over". >> >>Now I'm sure the subtitle said "Party Hard", but nothing would surprise >>me about German MTV. > >the name of the song is, indeed, 'party hard'. maybe susan was being cute. No, actually Jarvis was. I was going from memory, and the phrase that had stuck in my mind was "the party's over". "Party hard" doesn't appear anywhere in the lyric so I had thought it was a hearing mistake. My apologies. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:17:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: not really *that* bored on a tuesday morning On Tue, 1 Sep 1998, Eb wrote: > >anton barbeau > > Who dat? californian songwriter who, like Scott Miller, has undeservedly been claimed by the tepid "power-pop revival" crew. (i'm not sure why you feel guilty about liking Miller, Eb, but anyway he's certainly not peddling fourth-rate Material Issue rehashes like his supposed scenemates.) very attractive nasal voice. i keep meaning to mailorder his albums. a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 14:34:29 -0700 From: Mike Runion Subject: Pope, Titanic (Re: not really *that* bored on a tuesday morning) Capitalism Blows wrote: > >i spy > "subversive punkers." all their songs were recently compiled and put > onto one cd, called PERVERSITY IS SPREADING...IT'S ABOUT TIME!!! the > cover is a very cool drawing of three people shitting all over the pope > (with the proviso in the liner notes that it could have been any > religious or political leader.) More pope-bashing, Eddie? :) What with the Titanic Video Floodgates now open, I ran across an interesting connection between the great ship and the pope. Seems as though there is a lingering belief amongst Belfast shipbuilders that the sinking of the Titanic is directly related to anti-papal sentiments. Apparently, somewhere the doomed liner bore the numeric inscription "3909 ON", which when viewed backwards reads "NO POPE". Now, in some cirles, this is laughed upon as an urban myth. These same circles provide clear and irrefutable evidence that the inscription actually read "NO PALMER". - -- Mike Runion Cocoa, FL, USA /******************************************************************\ | VCM: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/cones.htm | | Fegmaps: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/fegmaps | | Spoken Word Tape: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/wordtape.htm | \******************************************************************/ "Wait a minute. Time for a Planetary Sit-In!" - Julian Cope ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 11:51:33 -0700 (PDT) From: griffith Subject: Tricycle Here's the skinny on the Buddha fish (as advertised in the classified section of _Tricycle_): "Promote Buddhism on the road with humour! These handsome 5" plaques are made of strong plastic and a chrome-like finish that stick to cars and just about anything! It is like the Darwin fish, only twice the size. $6 each, or order 5 or more for $3.50 each." Big Mook Creations P.O. Box 15371, San Francisco, CA 94115 Now for the Robyn Hitchcock (spelled correctly, eb) connection: On the back cover of the Summer Issue of _Tricycle_, is an add for Shambhala Publications, Inc. (www.shambhala.com). One of the booksdisplayed in their add is "Inside the Music: Conversations with Contemporary Musicians about Spirituality, Creativity, and Consciousness". Of course one of the contributors to this book is our very own Robyn Hitchcock (spelled correctly again, eb). Robyn on a Buddhist magazine, interesting. griffith np - nothing, bad soundcard :( = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Griffith Davies hbrtv219@csun.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:07:27 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: Everclear_(100%_R._Hitchcock_content,_±100% ) In a message dated 98-09-02 13:55:19 EDT, you write: << I was in a used CD store this weekend, and most of the little card separators between sections had "see also" suggestions on them. At first, I thought they were informational, such as "Peter Murphy, see also Bauhaus." But then I got to the RH section, the separator of which read "R. Hitchcock, see also Everclear." Huh? >> Well, they've gotta try to sell those Everclear CDs somehow! ;-) - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 12:13:42 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: Pope, Titanic (Re: not really *that* bored on a tuesday morning) how could one *possibly* get enough? one time, a friend of mine who was away at college did a bunch of songs and sent them to me. this one called The Pope Smokes Dope was just him wigging out on his guitar. (something like I Am Not Me, i suppose.) here are the lyrics: the pope smokes dope the pope smokes dope the pope smokes dope the pope smokes dope he's the catholic master he's a dirty bastard he makes me wanna puke! the pope smokes dope the pope smokes dope the pope smokes dope the pope smokes dope yaaaaaaah! the pope...smokes...dope ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:23:27 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: chops on the grill In a message dated 98-09-02 12:07:47 EDT, you write: << On another note, has anybody else noticed a general lack of musicianship or chops nowadays? Am I crazy, or are there are fewer bands out there who are genuinely *good* at what they do? >> To be sure, we're nearly at the bottom of the downward swing of a certain kind of musical pendulum in the world of rock/pop. This penduluum's swing reached a peak during the late 60's and early 70's, as jazz and 20th century classical influences crept more and more into rock/pop (as you all know, blah-blah-blah). I think we're seeing what is the necessary "equal and opposite" reaction to that period of music, wherein the idea of straightforward communication is what is seen as ideal in rock/pop music. Actually, 1993-1995 was probably the zenith of this of this period. I'm betting it'll swing back the opposite way soon enough. I mean, the popularity of "OK Computer" should be looked at as a sign that we're moving toward a period of greater complexity in the world of rock/pop. I know, I know -- for you chord-counters, they're intermediate at best; compared to Green Day, though! That and the whole "swing revival" thing. The Squirrel Nuts are no Art Ensemble of Chicago, but their new album sports some pretty nifty arrangements, the kind of which wouldn't have made as big a splash back in the Bush era (the band, not the President). I don't really care either way. I like stuff that's somewhere in the middle -- well-performed and imaginatively composed, but also conveying a "personal message" of some kind . . . something in between Ani and Zappa (which, fortunately leaves a lot of room). - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 98 15:36:00 EDT From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: Pope, Titanic (Re: not really *that* bored on a tuesday morning) > > > > how could one *possibly* get enough? > one time, a friend of mine who was away at college did a bunch of songs > and sent them to me. this one called The Pope Smokes Dope was just him > wigging out on his guitar. (something like I Am Not Me, i suppose.) > here are the lyrics: > Have you heard David Peel's "The Pope Smokes Dope?" I bet your friend has! Here's as much as I can remember: The Pope smokes dope (can't remember this line, but I think it ends in "grass") The Pope smokes dope He likes to smoke in mass The Pope smokes dope He's a groovy head The Pope smokes dope The Pope smokes dope oh yeah oh yeah oh yeaaaaaaaaah Break: The Pope is getting higher higher higher The Pope is getting higher higher higher ..... Gawd he was *awful*! What was John Lennon on when he discovered David? - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 98 12:57:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Re: Pope, Titanic (Re: not really *that* bored on a tuesday ======== Original Message ======== how could one *possibly* get enough? one time, a friend of mine who was away at college did a bunch of songs and sent them to me. this one called The Pope Smokes Dope was just him wigging out on his guitar. (something like I Am Not Me, i suppose.) here are the lyrics: the pope smokes dope the pope smokes dope the pope smokes dope the pope smokes dope he's the catholic master he's a dirty bastard he makes me wanna puke! the pope smokes dope the pope smokes dope the pope smokes dope the pope smokes dope yaaaaaaah! the pope...smokes...dope ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ======== Fwd by: Russ Reynolds ======== Could this be the same "The Pope smokes Dope" that was done by David Peel back in the early 70s (produced by Lennon, who also played guitar)? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 13:30:22 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Fwd: Re: if I had a hammer... This just in from my wife, A.K.A. "The Reference Librarian Of '70's Pop Culture." It explains the Partridge Family episode in question. She also stated to me emphatically: "Peter Brady never had braces!" pork chops and applesauce, - -tc - ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Date: 9/2/98 10:41 AM Received: 9/2/98 10:58 AM From: Coleen Clark, cclark@above.net To: Tom Clark, tclark@apple.com OMG! Actually, I heard dolphins singing through my braces! Me and my band made an album out of the beautiful sounds. It didn't sell too well so we went back to sappy love songs sung by my sexy brother and his mom. At 10:33 AM 9/2/98 -0700, you wrote: >On 9/2/98 8:21 AM, Russ Reynolds wrote: > >>In the Partidge family episode this was described as "the Pibald Syndrome" >>(they didn't spell it and I'm not going to look it up). Question: All of >>us have had braces or fillings at some point in our lives. Has ANYONE ever >>heard a radio station in his/her mouth? Bonus points if they were playing a >>Hitchcock tune. > >Never a radio station. But between the ages of 11 and 13, a filling in >my rear left molar would receive daily updates on the whereabouts of Carl >Palmer. I was instructed to seek him out and kill him so he would stop >stalking innocent schizophreniacs. Unfortunately, I was in Long Island >and I couldn't drive yet... > >-tc > > - ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:46:18 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: chops on the grill MARKEFFE: > To be sure, we're nearly at the bottom of the downward swing of a >certain kind of musical pendulum in the world of rock/pop. This penduluum's >swing reached a peak during the late 60's and early 70's, as jazz and 20th >century classical influences crept more and more into rock/pop (as you all >know, blah-blah-blah). I think we're seeing what is the necessary "equal and >opposite" reaction to that period of music, wherein the idea of >straightforward communication is what is seen as ideal in rock/pop music. >Actually, 1993-1995 was probably the zenith of this of this period. I'm >betting it'll swing back the opposite way soon enough. Ehhh(tm), I think you're working too hard to unite all of pop music history into one neat ideological curve. There will always be arty bands, there will always be stoopid-bash-it-out bands. >I like stuff that's somewhere in the >middle. . . something in between Ani and Zappa I'm sure that the Able Tasmans, Barry Adamson, the Afghan Whigs (hi LJ), Air, Air Miami, Herb Alpert, the Ambitious Lovers, American Music Club, Tori Amos, the Amps, Laurie Anderson, Tom Ze, John Zorn and the Zombies (among others) are feeling a little slighted right now. ;) Eb, hoping Tom gets to see his wife in person sometime soon.... ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #342 *******************************