From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #337 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, August 31 1998 Volume 07 : Number 337 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: long gaps between albums [Jon Fetter ] "PHOOEY" on your "Phooey" artists of the 1990s: [kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ost] Fishy T-shirts (Re: Jesus fish vs. Darwin fish) [Mike Runion ] Re: "Brighter than a Thousand Suns" [Jon Fetter ] Re: Jesus fish vs. Darwin fish; other fishies too [Eleanore Adams ] More Phooey (0% Brian Wilson) [kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander)] what constitutes the soft boys [Russ Reynolds ] Fishies In The Seas, Lemmings On The Land ["Glen Uber" ] RE: Jesus fish vs. Darwin fish; other fishies too [Aaron Mandel ] Re: "Phooey" Album of the Decade! (0% Taco Bell Chihuahua content) [Jason] flash mountain ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: souped up for ja ["Capitalism Blows" ] colonial beaver (not really, but it looks kinda neat as a subject line) [] dipper in my spline [Bayard ] Re: divers alarums, handy hints and spiffing wheezes [Tom Clark ] Tell Me About Your Duds ["Glen Uber" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:49:29 +0800 From: Jon Fetter Subject: Re: long gaps between albums >>>incidentally, can anyone here think of a truly good album that was more that >>>2-3 years after the artists previous album? > >Michael Jackson's "Thriller", about 4-5 years after "Off The Wall". >Yow! (grabbing crotch) > >Rob I remember thinking before "Thriller" "Wow, Michael Jackson has faded into obscurity!" Was I just wrong, or just before my time? Jon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:17:29 -0400 From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: "PHOOEY" on your "Phooey" artists of the 1990s: >"Phooey" artists of the 1990s: > >Bruce Springsteen - What the hell has he done for us lately? And >don't say "The Streets of Philadelphia" or I'll kick your ass!!! so the guy's had more success in the nineties with soundtracks than anything else? so what? maybe you should check out 'the ghost of tom joad', or even 'lucky town'. >Sir Paul McCartney - "Off The Ground" aka "Press Pt. II"? What was >he thinking? no big suprise that he's not the artist of the nineties. however, his 'flaming pie' from last year was his best album since 'tug of war'. >Eric Clapton - First, "Tears In Heaven", then the new "Layla" and now >"Change the World" hey! that 'unplugged' album is the tits! and 'from the cradle' was even better. >T.A.F.K.A. Prince - Apart from "Emancipation" he has done nothing >since "Sign O The Times" that has made my ears perk up. i know it can be difficult to keep track of this guy; but you're forgetting 'diamonds and pearls', 'come', and 'the gold experience'. also, the 'crystal ball' quadruple disk bootleg thingie is awesome! 'emancipation' was a wild ride. >Sting - C'Mon Gordy...It's really in everyone's best interest if you just >call up Andy and Stew and kiss and make up, then carry on as if >nothing had happened. We'll look the other way, too. We promise. >Now...about that platter of shite called "Ten Summoner's Tales"... granted, 'mercury falling' was a bit of a disappointment; but 'ten summoner's tales' is fantastic. platter of shite? get your head out of your ass. 'the soul cages' is another nineties goodie. >Paul Simon - "Hello? This is the songwriter's hall of fame calling Mr. >Simon. We regret to inform you that your membership has been >revoked for failing to meet the high standards expected of you and for >resting on the laurels of your previous work. That is all. Goodbye!" didn't think much of capeman; but 'rhythm of the saints' is a nineties album that doesn't rest on his laurels, even if it does steal from brazil. ken "defender of the faith" the kenster ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:16:25 -0700 From: Mike Runion Subject: Fishy T-shirts (Re: Jesus fish vs. Darwin fish) Mark_Gloster@3com.com wrote: > I have a Negativland tee shirt that says, > "Christianity is Stupid," but I can't believe that christians wouldn't > find the song by that title uproariously funny. Nevertheless, I don't > feel comfortable about wearing it. I continuously get questioning glances and smirks from passers-by in the mall, other older employees in work meetings, etc. when I wear my "Alive Jehovahkill" Julian Cope t-shirt. It's obviously a concert shirt, but certain people snag ahold of "Jehovah", then piece together the rest of it and just start getting irrate. With eyebrows lowered, they clear their throats and, trying to sound non-chalant, ask me what my shirt means. While I hate going into a lengthy explanation, I'm usually not quick enough to come up with anything witty. Now, the same people love it when I wear my Front 242 shirt. The front says "No Sex Until Marriage" and they smile and whisper to their spouses what a nice guy I must be and all. Then they see the back: "You deserve to go to hell!" Mike (sad that his Chinese Bones t-shirt hopelessly shrunk down to nothing) - -- Mike Runion Cocoa, FL, USA /******************************************************************\ | VCM: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/cones.htm | | Fegmaps: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/fegmaps | | Spoken Word Tape: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/wordtape.htm | \******************************************************************/ "Wait a minute. Time for a Planetary Sit-In!" - Julian Cope ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:40:27 -0700 From: Jason Thornton Subject: Re: Fishy T-shirts (Re: Jesus fish vs. Darwin fish) At 12:16 PM 8/31/98 -0700, Mike Runion wrote: >Mark_Gloster@3com.com wrote: >> I have a Negativland tee shirt that says, >> "Christianity is Stupid..." >I continuously get questioning glances and smirks from passers-by in the mall, other older >employees in work meetings, etc. when I wear my "Alive Jehovahkill" Julian Cope t-shirt. I always get a zooropaload of comments, all positive, on my "Jesus Hates Me" t-shirt. I think people get more upset over the upside down US flag, with the words "UnAmerican Activities" superimposed on top of it, on the flipside. - --Jason np: Jeff Buckley, "Sketches for 'My Sweetheart the Drunk'" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:50:26 -0700 From: Mike Runion Subject: Re: "Phooey" Album of the Decade! Some guy on the 55th floor of the Empire State Building spewed: > PS: I think U2's "Zooropa" is bloody fantastic, and is very > misunderstood. If this is what happens when they go into a studio blind > with Eno for a short time and fool around, I say do it more often! At the risk of siding with Quail yet again, I'll chime in that I liked Zooropa quite a bit, far more so than Pop or Passengers (which isn't saying much). I'd probably be more inclined to play it over Actung Baby as well, that is if I played U2 much these days. Zooropa gave me a smidgen of faith that maybe they were artfully going in a new direction, something that as of yet hasn't really panned out IMHO. Mike n.p. U2 - The Unforgettable Fire (still my fav) - -- Mike Runion Cocoa, FL, USA /******************************************************************\ | VCM: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/cones.htm | | Fegmaps: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/fegmaps | | Spoken Word Tape: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/wordtape.htm | \******************************************************************/ "Wait a minute. Time for a Planetary Sit-In!" - Julian Cope ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 00:52:55 +0800 From: Jon Fetter Subject: Re: "Brighter than a Thousand Suns" > Are there any other Leon Redbone fans out there!? >**glub-glub** Aah! Maxwell House, good to the last gulp. "This Bud's for you..." Gak. I've seen him twice (both times in Madison, WI, in a good old theater with glitter-stars twinklin' on the ceiling--best kind of place to see him). Good time, wot. Jon, who is now going to go dig out his "Double Time" tape ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:01:54 +0000 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: Jesus fish vs. Darwin fish; other fishies too Mark_Gloster@3com.com wrote: > Dolph Dolphed Dolphishly: > > >Since I go to church with lots of people who have the magnetic ichthus (as > >well as its Darwinivorous cousin) on their cars, I get grumpy on this > topic > >a lot. I'm not particularly comfortable with the ichthus in today's > society > >-- a little too much persecution complex for my tastes. Christians in > >20th-century America don't really have much place considering ourselves > >"persecuted." (except on certain listservs.)... > > Thank you for saying that. I was in a friendship-jeopardizing argument > with a devout christian a couple of years back over justifiable paranoia. > After some hours of "discussing" the matter, we both came to a similar > realization. He is not about to be murdered by us infidels, and I am not > in immenent danger of being crucified for being the antichrist- which I'm > pretty sure I'm not, but I'll let you all know if I turn out to be > incorrect on this matter. (Tom, Russ, Nick, Glen, any thoughts on this > one? And don't start arguing about which one of you is the antichrist, > either.) > > I don't put fish on my car or bumperstickers. I might put up one of > those King Crimson Discipline knot decals or a Lark's Tongues in Aspic > one, though. I used to have a sun decal in my back window that evoked > the Lark's thing. I have a Negativland tee shirt that says, > "Christianity is Stupid," but I can't believe that christians wouldn't > find the song by that title uproariously funny. Nevertheless, I don't > feel comfortable about wearing it. > > I really like the bumpersticker that says, "I eat the flesh of the > living and I vote." > > Monday, so far, so good. Happies, > -Markg I must say, though, as an atheist I do feel in the minority in the country - world. I went to an unlearning predudice seminare a while back, and, no, I am in no fear of being lynched, but there is a hostility out there toward those who don't believe in any gods. if I went public with my views while running for a political office, I get the feeling no party (GOP or Dems)would want me as their own. i also found out by talking to folks, that not all Darwin fish people are atheists. Eleanore ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:09:38 +0000 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: "Phooey" Album of the Decade! Mike Runion wrote: > Some guy on the 55th floor of the Empire State Building spewed: > > PS: I think U2's "Zooropa" is bloody fantastic, and is very > > misunderstood. If this is what happens when they go into a studio blind > > with Eno for a short time and fool around, I say do it more often! > > At the risk of siding with Quail yet again, I'll chime in that I liked Zooropa quite a bit, far > more so than Pop or Passengers (which isn't saying much). I'd probably be more inclined to > play it over Actung Baby as well, that is if I played U2 much these days. Zooropa gave me a > smidgen of faith that maybe they were artfully going in a new direction, something that as of > yet hasn't really panned out IMHO. > > Mike > I must say I third this opinion. Zooropa is my very favorite U2 album, the only one that I can listen to over and over. Eleanore ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 13:21:55 -0400 From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: More Phooey (0% Brian Wilson) >amen. still the phooey album of the decade HAS to be Morrissey: Your Arsenal. >in fact, he's the phooey artist of the decade oh brother! he's had a good string of nifty albums and 'your arsenal' is the cream of the crop. robyn did a morrissey cover. so lay off. > >Biggest "phooey" of the decade, though: U2's "Zooropa." ok, it's not the best thing they've ever done; but i liked it. hell, i liked 'pop' too. they're both better than 'rattle and hum'. > The Amps/Pacer compared to what? there's some great stuff on this one. >Elvis Costello: "Mighty Like A Rose"? Almost certainly a contractual >obligation album. how 'bout 'brutal youth'? 'all this useless beauty'? hell, even 'the juliet letters' was interesting. where do you get off dissing mr. mcmanus? >Paul Weller: He gets a half-phooey or a phoo! His first solo album was >phenominal, but Wildwood sucked pondwater. Didn't hear the third >one, so I can't comment on it. 'wildwood' was WAY better than the first one. 'stanley road' should be one of the "WHEEE" albums of the ninties. ken "sheesh" the kenster ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 98 10:28:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: what constitutes the soft boys > I might be wrong, but I don't believe all four of the Soft Boys appeared on any one song on that record. >somewhere, possibly even in the rhino liner notes, BLACK SNAKE is called >the fourth soft boys album. or maybe, the closest thing to a fourth >soft boys album. Lotsa those songs were part of the Soft Boys' final sets. Damn, that was a good record. as for "Stomping"...same four guys, different guy singing lead. Soft Boys. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:55:42 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Fishies In The Seas, Lemmings On The Land Eleanore Adams dixit: > i also found out by talking to folks, that not all Darwin fish > people are atheists. Just as not all people who wear items inscribed with "WWJD" are Christians. I think the fishies and the WWJD bracelets, shirts, fanny packs, hats, sunglasses, shoelaces, corn cob holders, condoms, ball peen hammers and zircon-encrusted tweezers are nothing more than fashion trends and empty social statements. Remember in the 1970s everyone with the "I Found It" bumper stickers and all its various spinoffs? All of those soon passed and so will these (Whenever the next "cool" thing comes along). "I Found It" -Campus Crusade For Christ "Found What?" --Camus Crusade For Christ - -g- )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( Glen Uber Email: uberg@sonic.net ICQ UIN: 13311304 Web: http://www.sonic.net/~uberg "The war on drugs is a joke and we the people are the punch line." --From a letter to the Editor The Santa Rosa Press Democrat, 31 July 1998 )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:06:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: RE: Jesus fish vs. Darwin fish; other fishies too On Mon, 31 Aug 1998 Mark_Gloster@3com.com wrote: > I have a Negativland tee shirt that says, "Christianity is Stupid," but > I can't believe that christians wouldn't find the song by that title > uproariously funny. Nevertheless, I don't feel comfortable about wearing > it. you must know different christians than i do. i still get stares for my The Virgin-Whore Complex(tm) shirt which i feel justified in smugly ignoring since while the band is obscure, the psychological phenomenon being referred to is not, and if you can't see the word "whore" on a t-shirt without figuring the wearer is a sexist or anti-Christian, what good are you? on the other hand, whoever it was that realized he could never wear his The Negro Problem shirt in public probably made the right decision. Onion t-shirts are great for tweaking passersby if you're in a juvenile mood; i have "You are dumb.", "People with glasses are ugly nerds." and "Your favorite band sucks." (apparently at my old high school, some kid was removed for wearing an Onion "End racism -- kill everyone." shirt. why? the principal's stated reason was that the shirt was black and thus somehow represented anti-black sentiment. this is the same principal who allocated school money to put up artwork depicting women and minorities in the halls. not art BY women and minorities, just pictures OF them. and yes, i've been gone from there for many years and i still seethe whenever i think of her.) a ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:28:42 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: souped up for ja according to robyn, Filthy Bird is more universal than just the situation in the former yugoslavia, although that may be what inspired it. he says it's about, basically, we've got all this blood on our hands, but as long as it doesn't affect us directly, we don't feel any great need to do anything about it. and he's dead on it there. that's the "beauty" of imperialism. <> first done live, to my knowledge, by the soft boys. of course, by this > criterion, Alright, Yeah is an egyptians song. robyn played it for the first time on the WHFS morning show in.. late 91 maybe? does that count as "live"?> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:32:18 -0700 From: Jason Thornton Subject: Re: "Phooey" Album of the Decade! (0% Taco Bell Chihuahua content) At 10:43 AM 8/31/98 -0500, The Great Quail spewed(TM): >Eb flows, > >>Tin Machine/Tin Machine II > >This disturbs me only in the fact that it implies you *liked* the first >Tin Machine Album. The first Tin Machine album, except maybe for the inane lyrics to "Crack City," was "truly good," or even terrifical! Wheeeee! Actually, the best Tin Machine album was the live album. If they had JUST released that, then perhaps they would've gotten the respect they deserved. Hell, besides the vastly more incredible "Scary Monsters," the first Tin Machine album was pretty much the only Bowie album worth mentioning from the '80's. He opened up and closed out the "non-standard" decade (1980-1989) on high notes. >PS: I think U2's "Zooropa" is bloody fantastic, and is very >misunderstood. If this is what happens when they go into a studio blind >with Eno for a short time and fool around, I say do it more often! Two thumbs and a big toe up on that one. "Zooropa" is quite simply my favorite U2 album. Everything else they've done pales in comparison. Except maybe the Passengers and "Unforgettable Fire." >PPS: Hey, look kids! I'm defending U2 -- it's been awhile, no? Ahh, >nostalgia. And just in time for the release of "Titanic" to video. . . . Even "Armaggedon" was better than "Titanic." Even "Lost in Space" was better than "Titanic." Even the *MEGA-BLEEH* "Pillow Book" was better than "Titanic." "Godzilla," too. I spit on "Titanic." Bleeh, bleeh, bleeh, yuck! I kinda missed most of the "Titanic" war, and had to put my Hope Diamond's worth in, at least once. ;) - --Jason np: Jeff Buckley, "Sketches for 'My Sweetheart the Drunk'" (the second disc of 2) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:46:18 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: flash mountain <>in order, the ten greatest attractions at disneyland: > 1. Mr. Toad's Wild Ride > 2. Splash Mountain http://www.flashmountain.com/> cool site, tom. the best part is the visitor feedback. there are four long pages of it, of which i only read one. i can't decide which was the funniest. this: What sucks is that chicks of all sizes can flash their tits but when I flashed my tool I got eight hours community service. Security was waiting for me. or this: When I was in high school, a friend of mine, a male friend, decided to stand up on Splash Mountain, turn around, and moon the camera. He was quite crazy for standing up on that thing, and ended up getting arrested for indecent exposure. All the pictures were confiscated. Bummer. Fortunately, most of us still saw the photo that was posted on the video screens outside the ride, so we got a good laugh. Unfortunately, he was suspended for 4 days from school, since it was a school trip. Bummer. or this (gotta get the sponsor's word in, no matter what!): As a lifelong native of Los Angeles and ardent Disneyland fan, all I can say is... oh my God! Those are some of the most heinous looking, sleaze-ridden women I've seen in my life. C'mon, why don't you see Cindy Crawford up there? No one really wants to see these... By the way, got any more? Signed, "The Only Guy Who Fired From Six Flags Magic Mountain For Throwing Mashed Potatoes At A Park Guest While Said Guest Was Riding On The 7-Up Jet Stream." and check it out, there's even some robyn content: Hi. my name is Brian and live in Ashburnham Massachusetts. Sometimes I wish I was a woman so I could flash like that. Are there not instances when the refusal to serve is a sacred duty, when "treason" means courageous respect for the truth? --Manifesto of the 121 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:48:23 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: souped up for ja <> first done live, to my knowledge, by the soft boys. of course, by this > criterion, Alright, Yeah is an egyptians song. robyn played it for the first time on the WHFS morning show in.. late 91 maybe? does that count as "live"?> woops. meant to ask: Alright, Yeah, or Zipper In My Spine? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:58:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielle Subject: colonial beaver (not really, but it looks kinda neat as a subject line) Eleanore: > I must say, though, as an atheist I do feel in the minority in the country - > world. I went to an unlearning predudice seminare a while back, and, no, I am > in no fear of being lynched, but there is a hostility out there toward those > who don't believe in any gods. if I went public with my views while running > for a political office, I get the feeling no party (GOP or Dems)would want me > as their own. Run for office in New Zealand. There's an active hostility to candidates with strong religious beliefs. (Unless, of course, you happen to be the mayor of Auckland, and your mission in life is to stop gay and lesbian people having fun once a year. Phooey and bleccch to Les Mills.) Jason, I am quite possibly going to be utterly quashed for this (help, Susan!), but Let's Dance (1983) is one of my very favourite Bowie albums. Feel free to scorn me. :) Danielle, who would be quite happy never to hear another song from The Joshua Tree as long as she lives, and who is only barely able to enjoy songs from War, Boy, Rattle and Hum and Achtung Baby occasionally, when squiffy in a pub PS Glen, I am ashamed to admit that the whole 'beaver-hunting' thing I was reading about made me snicker unprofessionally. I am a bad, bad historian. ;) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:09:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: dipper in my spline On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Capitalism Blows wrote: > <> first done live, to my knowledge, by the soft boys. of course, by > > by this criterion, Alright, Yeah is an egyptians song. > > robyn played it for the first time on the WHFS morning show in.. late 91 > maybe? does that count as "live"?> > > woops. meant to ask: Alright, Yeah, or Zipper In My Spine? Alright Yeah. After he finished playing, the DJ asked what it was called, and RH said, "Alright Yeah". Which made everyone laugh, as he'd just sung the same words many times. I just so happen to have the sequel import "my wife and my dead wife" single with the extra tracks, and it says zipper was recorded october 94 at Dub Narcotic, olympia, washington state. (for that K single). But that great soft boys reunion radio session was in april of that year, correct? with the really good version of ZiMS and other really well done songs. I've got to start inputting these dates and sets. I dug out the photocopies you sent me Ed. Wanna help with the data entry? Anyone? Beulah? =b ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:55:09 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: divers alarums, handy hints and spiffing wheezes On 8/31/98 1:32 AM, Glen Uber wrote: >Danielle dixit: > >> Danielle, wondering, with some trepidation, how to write an >> intelligent paragraph about beaver-hunting in America's colonial period > >Should we let Tom comment on this one, as well? ;-) I thought about it, then thought better of it, but now I've been challenged: Colonial Americans knew they were blessed with the abundant natural resources of their new land. Rich farmland enabled them not only to feed a growing population, but also to establish trade with other countries. One of the most profitable exports for the colonists was animal pelts. The riches earned by fur traders were so plentiful, in fact, that many of them were able to retire at an early age and live a life of luxury. However, these men who had spent their lives in the excitement of the New World wilderness became very uneasy with the sedentary lifestyle of the wealthy. To combat their malaise, many of the former trappers organized "Beaver Hunts" where they would split up into groups, go into town, get piss faced drunk, and then compete to see who could grab the most beaver. These beaver hunts reached the height of their popularity in 1759 when, according to Samuel R. Rugmuncher's account at the time, over 45 organized beaver hunts occured in Chelmsford, Massachusetts during the month of July alone. The activity declined rapidly after that, with most of the participants dying of syphilis within the year. These days, the beaver hunt is apparently only studied academically, as one hears it mentioned mostly on college campuses. There you go, Danielle. I hope you get an 'A'! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:19:20 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: What Is And What Will Never Be (90% Soft Boys, 4% Tom Petty, 4% Eagles content, 2% Beatles content) Russ Reynolds spewed ;-): > > > > > I might be wrong, but I don't believe all four of the Soft Boys appeared > on any one song on that record. > Heer's..uh, the deal. Following is a list of songs from BSDR that had at least one Soft Boy on them (aside from Robyn, obviously): "The Man Who Invented Himself" and "Acid Bird": Morris "Brenda's Iron Sledge": Matthew "Do Policemen Sing?", "The Lizard", "I Watch The Cars": Matthew and Kimberley "Meat," "Out Of The Picture," and "Love": Morris and Matthew "City Of Shame" has Robyn, Matthew and Kimberley, but gives no drumming credit. Could it be the one, true Soft Boys Song on the album? Pat Collier is listed as producer "with a little help from Matthew"; the same team as Underwater Moonlight. It's strange that Morris and Kimberley don't appear on any tracks together on the album. Was this intentional? BTW - who is Howie Gilbert? He sings backing vocal on "Love". I know the name -- just can't place it. Knox was guitarist for the Psych Furs, right? > as for "Stomping"...same four guys, different guy singing lead. Soft > Boys. Even when the credit reads "Kimberley Rew"? How do you explain "Full Moon Fever" and "Wildflowers"? They were credited as Tom Petty solo records, yet nearly all the songs featured most, if not all of the Heartbreakers. Ditto Don Felder's song "Takin' A Ride" on the Heavy Metal Soundtrack: Don Felder, Don Henley, Timothy B. Schmit, Joe Walsh, and Glenn Frey (along with a couple other guys, as well; Walsh and Frey were uncredited due to contractual reasons). Essentially the Eagles, but credited as Don Felder. "Yesterday" should have been credited not to the Beatles, but to Paul McCartney only -- he was the only one on playing on it, after all. Any other examples? - -g- )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( Glen Uber Email: uberg@sonic.net ICQ UIN: 13311304 Web: http://www.sonic.net/~uberg "The war on drugs is a joke and we the people are the punch line." --From a letter to the Editor The Santa Rosa Press Democrat, 31 July 1998 )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:58:21 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: dipper in my spline the astoria show was in january. the 13th, i'm pretty sure. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:56:33 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Tell Me About Your Duds Bayard dixit: > tell us what *really* dismal stuff you > like. :) (uh oh... i sense a thread coming on...) Okay. If it's dismal we wouldn't like it, right? I think what you mean is "What do you like that you would never admit to anyone else (at least on this list) for fear or retribution and public humiliation?" My list is as follows (God, I hope this isn't a mistake): If all of you haven't noticed yet, I love old, classic country music. It's what I was raised with and it still occupies a fond place in my heart. The Eagles -- While growing up, my father permitted my brother and me to listen to only country or gospel music. The Eagles (especially their early stuff) were close enough to country music to be played in the house. As a matter of fact, while learning to play guitar, I almost wore out their "Greatest Hits, 1971-1975" album. Went to see 'em in 1994 and felt gipped. Not that big of fan anymore, but still own "On The Border" and "One Of These Nights". I guess the Monkees are a group I don't readily admit to liking, but still listen to occasionally. Frankie Goes To Hollywood, of course. Culture Club Van Halen Metallica Yes Gentle Giant The Cars Janis Ian Paul McCartney - McCartney II The Footloose Soundtrack - 80s cheese at its best. The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band (1967 - 1976, mainly) The Hollies The Grass Roots There are lots more, but I think i've incriminated myself enough already. Interested in seeing Eb's list of closet-music, - -g- )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( Glen Uber Email: uberg@sonic.net ICQ UIN: 13311304 Web: http://www.sonic.net/~uberg "When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading." -- Henny Youngman )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #337 *******************************