From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #336 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, August 31 1998 Volume 07 : Number 336 Today's Subjects: ----------------- long gaps between albums [Rob Gronotte ] "Phooey" Album of the decade [Kevin M Mathews ] Re: Stephen Foster [Bayard ] Re: Jesus fish vs. Darwin fish; other fishies too [Eleanore Adams ] odds and sods from this weekend's seven (count 'em!) digests [james.digna] Re: "dropped your magic twanger, froggy!" (12% brewer tom content) [Baya] Re: divers alarums, handy hints and spiffing wheezes [Danielle ] Re: divers alarums, handy hints and spiffing wheezes ["Glen Uber" ] Re: when were the 80s really? [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Re: "Phooey" Album of the Decade! [The Great Quail Subject: long gaps between albums >>incidentally, can anyone here think of a truly good album that was more that >>2-3 years after the artists previous album? Michael Jackson's "Thriller", about 4-5 years after "Off The Wall". Yow! (grabbing crotch) Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:12:53 +0800 (SST) From: Kevin M Mathews Subject: "Phooey" Album of the decade Leave Brian alone! IMHO Imagination isn't a bona fide Brian Wilson album but the album MOR producer Joe Thomas thought Brian SHOULD make in the 90s. If anyone can get hold of the tape of Andy Paley's sessions with Brian, you'll get a glimpse of what Brian is able to do IF ALLOWED TO ... So leave Brian alone, yeah? Cheers, Kevin. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 23:11:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Stephen Foster i found 6 stephen fosters at bmi.com - have a look. On Fri, 28 Aug 1998, tanter wrote: > At 08:37 PM 8/28/1998 -0400, MARKEEFE@aol.com wrote: > > So, hey . . . who knows where a guy like me can go online to find a site > >where you can search for song titles by songwriter? Alternately, I'm > >specifically looking for a list of Stephen Foster songs, in case someone > knows > >of a website especially for him. Thanks! > > > I'd just do a search on webcrawler or something. > > Marcy > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 20:15:53 +0000 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: Jesus fish vs. Darwin fish; other fishies too Ken Sabatini wrote: > Last one: Now I've never seen this, but let's suppose there was a car > with a Jesus-fish AND a Darwin fish, except the Darwin fish was bigger > and its mouth was opened and it was in the process of eating the Jesus > fish. Now this would be a clearer statement: "Darwin Rules, Dude!" > OR reverse it and have the Jesus fish eating Darwin. Or for controversy's > sake have the Jesus fish eating the Darwin fish, with the Darwin fish > carrying a sign that reads something like "Keep Abortion Safe and Legal." > > And so on and so on . . . > > Actually I DID see a Darwin fish get eaten be a Jesus fish on a car. So the Christian are marketing these new fish decales, at least they are in the bay area. No joke...I really did see this. And it was one of those grey plastic stick on ones, not a bumber sticker. Eleanore ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:17:19 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: divers alarums, handy hints and spiffing wheezes Who was it collecting Ebisms? You missed the one that occurs every 2nd or third post. You've all seen it... "Ehh." >=b, jealous of virgina plates that get 7 characters AND a space OK... I hope I've worked out what this is a typo for, otherwise life in the US is a lot more weird than I thought. >By the way, "Pencil Factory Dispute." It sounds vaguely Eraserheadish, no? I thought it sounded like a song by They Might be Giants. >1. I believe that Nostradamus predicted the world will end on August 18, >1999. So perhaps all this Y2K/first-day-of-the-21st-century hoopla is all for >naught. This ties in with the date mentioned in the milleniarist rantings on the Orb's chilling track "S.A.L.T." Worth noting is that it is only a couple of weeks from 9/9/99, when the first computers to be hit by a Y2K bug may go down (IIRC, for some reason, some programs have 9/9/99 as their cut-off date, not 31/12/99) Good to see so much activity from the surreal possee lately. Mark and lj, your life stories were wonderful. It's good to know the truth about the Gong list at last, and get some more of those Carl Palmer lyrics, too. As for the Quail's film script... wheee! >Is it "Mouses Talker," or "Mouse Stalker?" >And if it is indeed the latter, are we to envision an insane Mickey peeping >in our windows... C'mon Quail, me old mate - you know what they say - the mouse police never sleeps James PS: mindless conspiracy theory of the day: the Lewinsky case was set up to get the public's sympathy behind Hillary for when she launches her bid for the presidency in 2000... James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:17:18 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: a happy bird is a Croatian bird? >The other day I was listening to A Happy Bird is a Filthy Bird and had a >gestalt of a sort, I guess. Anyway, I seem to remember reading that Robyn >wrote the song about the time all hell was breaking loose in the former >Yugoslavia. The line "soaring away above the chessboard/many's the eagle >on the wing" just made me stop. Why? Three words: the World Cup. Remember >Croatia's cool jerseys? Those boys looked like they were playing for >Purina. And while I realize that chess is the world's oldest war game and >possibly the oldest metaphor for war, I thought of those damn jerseys. >Think Robyn (ever the visual thinker) had the Croat flag in mind? It would >be an interesting twist. Perhaps James D. would care to speculate. The arms of Croatia are often called the Croat chequerboard - in fact (in a truly Liliput vs Blefescu like argument) there was even an outbreak of violence on one occasion over a dispute as to whether the top left hand square should be red or white. The shield is prominently displayed in the centre of the Croatian flag. Perhaps the whole song *is* a giant analogy of the recent Yugoslav area problems. Let's try overanalysing the lyrics 'The cloud above the bus stop in the shape of you and I, with circles swirling around. Me, down there on the viaduct, covered in grease and lime and scales.' Consider the flag of the UN - a map of the world (all of us) surrounded in white wreathes, on a sky blue background.UN troops, camouflaged in green (lime) and brown (scales) and presumably often with faces blacked by grease, had the task of protecting major road links, notably bus access. 'Soaring away above the chessboard. Many's the eagle on the wing.' Eagles = birds of prey = warplanes. Eagles are also symbolic of the US, and of Germany (a past agressor in that region). Agressors in general. 'Checking their instruments before they bomb the children as they sing.' Needs no analysis. Neither does: 'Splash my coat enamel with blood - a rendezvous with stone will leave you bleeding. Step by step you set your face in stone.' 'Look at the massacre on cable. But you know it won't happen here. We're all too busy watching massacres on cable' It never does. Everyone knows that sort of thing won't happen where you are - it keeps you from insane paranoia. Yet it does happen. Often. It's certainly possible... James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 23:51:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: roBMI So I did a robyn search on bmi.com. I was interested to see these on the first page: 1964 SONG 004078980 1964 SONG THAT THING 004078980 BABYDOLL 004078963 Note the high numbers (Antwoman is 004078962.) And the first two (they seem to leave in mistakes and just make more entries... queen elvis II has three differently spelled entries, as does Robyn's name itself) are NOT Feels Like 1974, apparently, as that has number 004078968. So I wonder if he's played these at all, and if so, which are they? from me: > virgina On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, James Dignan did write: > OK... I hope I've worked out what this is a typo for, otherwise life in the > US is a lot more weird than I thought. james, shame on you. will you PLEASE give tom a proper chance to make the vagina jokes? thank you for you support.... =b ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:01:42 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: odds and sods from this weekend's seven (count 'em!) digests I've realised over the course of the weekend that the Spencer Davis Group also diod a song called "I'm a man". Almost certainly NOT the one our RH sang, though. >Capuchin and I (plus a few others) are going to have a really good time >moping at home on 31/12/99 while all you innumerates are out celebrating! why??? think about it - TWO PARTIES! one at the end of the millenium (31/12/00), and a 'big numbers party', for when the big digit rolls over to a two... >Eb dixit: > >> PS Ebby's favorite (note that I did not say "best") '80s albums could >> probably be plucked out of XTC/Skylarking, Tom Waits/Rain Dogs, Tom >> Waits/Franks Wild Years, Peter Gabriel/Security, Talking Heads/Remain in >> Light, Elvis Costello/Imperial Bedroom, the Replacements/Tim, Kate >> Bush/The Dreaming, REM/Reckoning, REM/Life's Rich Pageant and Underwater >> Moonlight by the Pep Boys. hmm, not bad, although Hounds of Love is better than The Dreaming IMHO. I might want to add a few more, mind you: EoL, Wrong Way Up (Eno & Cale), Human Frailty (Hunters & Collectors), Born Sandy Devotional (The Triffids), The Blurred Crusade (The Church),and The Lion & the Cobra (Sinead O'Connor) might all be in there (in place of the Replacements and Tom's Wild Years), and for purely parochial reasons I'd add Submarine Bells... (this is off the top of my head. I'm damn sure I'm missing some doozies) >incidentally, can anyone here think of a truly good album that was more that >2-3 years after the artists previous album? Wrong Way Up was Eno's first non-ambient album for about 15 years. And it is good as. Broken English was Marianne Faithfull's first album for about a decade, and kicks serious ass. Patti Smith's Dream of Life was also seriusly long after her previous work. >Eric Clapton - First, "Tears In Heaven", then the new "Layla" the best version of this track is undoubtedly Fortran 5's, with guest vocalist Derek Nimmo. >> Last one: Now I've never seen this, but let's suppose there was a car >> with a Jesus-fish AND a Darwin fish, except the Darwin fish was bigger >> and its mouth was opened and it was in the process of eating the Jesus >> fish. Now this would be a clearer statement: "Darwin Rules, Dude!" >> OR reverse it and have the Jesus fish eating Darwin. 'fisher of men' - what was the occupation of a significant number of apostles? The name Jesus Christ in Greek cold be shortened to something not unlike Ichthys (fish). Whewn they were a subversive underground movement, Christians often used a two-line fish as their 'secret handshake'. Since that time it has come to represent christianity. James ("and it's one-two-three what are we fighting for?") James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 00:07:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: "dropped your magic twanger, froggy!" (12% brewer tom content) > first done live, to my knowledge, by the soft boys. of course, by this > criterion, Alright, Yeah is an egyptians song. robyn played it for the first time on the WHFS morning show in.. late 91 maybe? does that count as "live"? > years. Ineligible, if we interpret the above to mean "more than three > years."> > > it was definitely the first thing that popped into my head. and, > RESPECT came out in february of '93, ELIXIR in august of '96. so it was > over three and a half years. although, he was constantly touring and > writing new songs. and putting together the rhino reissues, which i > suppose counts as "being active during the interim." this hiatus is especially notable for being the longest of his career. longer even than when he "retired." as you know, he's had a new album pretty much every year except.. 83, 87, that's about it... and older stuff like invisible hits, invisible hitch, y&o etc. it's been a (relative) drought lately. > this just might be the straw that breaks the camel's back and gets me > drummed out of here for good, but i think MOMENTARY LAPSE OF REASON > (1987), was "truly good." that's not grounds for dismissal. tell us what *really* dismal stuff you like. :) (uh oh... i sense a thread coming on...) =b ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 21:15:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielle Subject: Re: divers alarums, handy hints and spiffing wheezes James says: > Who was it collecting Ebisms? You missed the one that occurs every 2nd or > third post. You've all seen it... > > "Ehh." Dang it, *I* did that one yesterday. No poaching! Unlike the rest of the list, however, I lay no claim to 'Quailspew'. Fight amongst yourselves. ;) Danielle, wondering, with some trepidation, how to write an intelligent paragraph about beaver-hunting in America's colonial period _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 21:32:37 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: odds and sods from this weekend's seven (count 'em!) digests Dignan: >>> PS Ebby's favorite (note that I did not say "best") '80s albums could >>> probably be plucked out of XTC/Skylarking, Tom Waits/Rain Dogs, Tom >>> Waits/Franks Wild Years, Peter Gabriel/Security, Talking Heads/Remain in >>> Light, Elvis Costello/Imperial Bedroom, the Replacements/Tim, Kate >>> Bush/The Dreaming, REM/Reckoning, REM/Life's Rich Pageant and Underwater >>> Moonlight by the Pep Boys. > >hmm, not bad, although Hounds of Love is better than The Dreaming IMHO. NIMHO. ;) >I might want to add a few more, mind you: EoL, Wrong Way Up (Eno & Cale), >Human Frailty (Hunters & Collectors), Born Sandy Devotional (The Triffids), >The Blurred Crusade (The Church),and The Lion & the Cobra (Sinead O'Connor) >might all be in there (in place of the Replacements and Tom's Wild Years), >and for purely parochial reasons I'd add Submarine Bells... (this is off >the top of my head. I'm damn sure I'm missing some doozies) Submarine Bells was released in 1990...well, at least in the States??? I have EoL, Wrong Way Up and The Lion & The Cobra, but of those, EoL is the only one which would be even close to being a contender for me. >Patti Smith's Dream of Life was also seriously long after her previous work. Nine years, to be exact. But it was weeeeeeeak. Eb, sleeping soundly through yet more mentions of the Triffids and the Church ;) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 21:46:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Welker Subject: My two pence. >this just might be the straw that breaks the camel's back and gets me >drummed out of here for good, but i think MOMENTARY LAPSE OF REASON >(1987), was "truly good." >And did you like The Division Bell, or did you find all the referencesto >Denise Sharpe too heavy-handed and unsubtle? I remember Roger Waters mentioning in an interview that MLOR was a very good album. But he goes onto mention that "over 100 people worked on the album." At the time I just blew this off, considering the anomosity between the parties involved here. Since hearing The Division Bell. I now think otherwise. That's one shitty album! House of Love 'Audience with a Mind' 1993/solo Guy Chadwick 'Lazy, Soft & Slow' 1998. Is this a legal move? Going from a group to solo? Cheers, Pat. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 01:32:20 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Re: divers alarums, handy hints and spiffing wheezes Danielle dixit: > Danielle, wondering, with some trepidation, how to write an > intelligent paragraph about beaver-hunting in America's colonial period Should we let Tom comment on this one, as well? ;-) - -g- )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( Glen Uber Email: uberg@sonic.net ICQ UIN: 13311304 Web: http://www.sonic.net/~uberg "The war on drugs is a joke and we the people are the punch line." --From a letter to the Editor The Santa Rosa Press Democrat, 31 July 1998 )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 01:32:21 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Re: Phooeys and Wheeeees! of the 1990s Daniel Barkhouse hat gesagt: > I thought "The Ghost of Tom Joad" was fucking brilliant. Still haven't heard it. If it's as good as everyone says, then I will retract my previous Bruce statement. > Huh? Paul Simon's last three works have been incredible efforts. Are there some I'm forgetting? The last three I remember are "Tales From The Capeman", "Rhythm Of The Saints" and "Graceland". "Graceland" came out in 1986 and ROTS came out in 1990, I believe (another one for the gap between albums thread). "TFTC" came out in 1997, so there might be one in there of which I'm not aware. I liked Graceland, But, having heard it so often, I find it hard to be subjective in my opinions about that album. Anyway, my previous post was a phooey on his 1990s work and really, the last album of his I liked all the way the way through was "Hearts and Bones" which came out in 1983. - -g- )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( Glen Uber Email: uberg@sonic.net ICQ UIN: 13311304 Web: http://www.sonic.net/~uberg "The war on drugs is a joke and we the people are the punch line." --From a letter to the Editor The Santa Rosa Press Democrat, 31 July 1998 )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:50:22 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: when were the 80s really? >>>>> "Mike" == M R Godwin writes: Mike> The 80s run from 1980-1989, which is a period of ten years, Mike> is but not a standard decade. Um, no. A decade is any ten consecutive years. Check your dictionary. Mike> Capuchin and I (plus a few others) are going to have a Mike> really good time moping at home on 31/12/99 Whilst wearing your 'Centrifugal Force is merely a reaction!" teeshirt, perhaps? - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:40:01 -0400 From: "Chaney, Dolph L" Subject: RE: Jesus fish vs. Darwin fish; other fishies too Coming in a bit late... Since I go to church with lots of people who have the magnetic ichthus (as well as its Darwinivorous cousin) on their cars, I get grumpy on this topic a lot. I'm not particularly comfortable with the ichthus in today's society - -- a little too much persecution complex for my tastes. Christians in 20th-century America don't really have much place considering ourselves "persecuted." (except on certain listservs.) In addition, I've always thought the fish thing seems very "Not One Of Us," which is badbadbad. We are not a social club and should not be an antisocial club, either. I think we get a lot of it in Atlanta because it's both a big Bible Burp (tm) city AND a major traffic disaster. Phooey. The only symbol for Christianity that I'd feel comfortable putting on my car (if I were that sort of person) would be the cross itself. But, oddly enough, I don't think anyone makes them!!! (*that's* how I'll make a million bucks...) Anyway. My two widow's mites on the subject, I suppose... Dolph ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 05:53:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Welker Subject: "Brighter than a Thousand Suns" - -->Anyone else out there plan each year to buy a slew of copies of your favorite new album to give out as gifts to your blissfully unaware friends, only to never do it because you're just too damn cheap?<-- I actually do this. I find it's cheaper than buying *real* gifts. In '96 it was The Church's ' Magician Among The Spirits', last year it was 'Uncorrected Personality Traits'. The reviews were not promising on either of them. I suppose if everyone had good taste I wouldn't see those butt-ugly flourescent green Dodge Neons on the road! This year though, I'm leaning toward Guy Chadwicks 'Lazy, Soft & Slow'(and yet, another shameless plug). It's a wonderful album and user-friendly. - -->but U2 shouldn't have really felt like they were under any pressure to release a potboiler of an album. I'm betting that they just lazily threw together "Zooropa" because they just didn't care anymore what kind of crap they were feeding the fans. When tons of people bought it, they decided to make a new career out of throwing together half-hearted shite and waving their "we're just parodies of the bloated rock stars that we appear to be" flags<-- I'll give it to you on Zooropa. But 'Achtung Baby'(my fave U2 album and it was before the Zooropa I know) and 'Pop' are incredibable! That's all I'll comment on this one. "Phooey" Album of the Decade! Anything from the Butthole Surfers. What happened boys!? At least I can say, "I remember them when...." Are there any other Leon Redbone fans out there!? **glub-glub** Aah! Maxwell House, good to the last gulp. Well, the outer layers of skin are quivering from the coffee. Time to do my 'I'm a hardworking employee' imitation. Cheers, Pat. == _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 98 10:43:56 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: "Phooey" Album of the Decade! Eb flows, >Tin Machine/Tin Machine II This disturbs me only in the fact that it implies you *liked* the first Tin Machine Album. >Bob Dylan/Under the Red Sky Yeah -- a real big Phooooo-EEEy! on that one. My biggest "phooey" in the 90s was Yes' "Big Generator," but that may not surprise some of you, being the proggie chord-counter that I am. And the Moody's "Keys to the Kingdom," what does that get? What Ebbism means, "God this group has been in serious decline, but I still buy their freakin' albums anyway, in case there's a glimmer of hope, but this lat release, My God, I just heard the coffin lid slam shut. . . . " - --Quail PS: I think U2's "Zooropa" is bloody fantastic, and is very misunderstood. If this is what happens when they go into a studio blind with Eno for a short time and fool around, I say do it more often! PPS: Hey, look kids! I'm defending U2 -- it's been awhile, no? Ahh, nostalgia. And just in time for the release of "Titanic" to video. . . . +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 98 10:52:01 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: ABOUT, but NOT, Quailspew (0% Tanter Content) Eb writes, regarding Capuchin and "quailspew," >No WAY, bucko! Actually, Eb, Jeme is right. He *was* the first one to coin "Quailspew." I remember clearly, because up until that time, I thought Capuchin surely read each of my posts out loud to his cats before bedtime, then immortalized them by sticking them to his refridgerator with little Nancy and Sluggo magnets. You did, however, seize upon it gleefully, though, so you do get some points for effort. . . . >LJ wanted me to mention one of her other favorite Gondolisms: >"orifice-stuffing." Hey! That was Frodo who liked that one, and you know it. By the way, there's a weird scene going on here in ol' NYC. A while ago, a strange fog rolled in from the Upper Side, and I was sort of enjoying it, listening to "Kundun" and happy to be watching Fifth Aveneue and Rockefeller Center vanish from site to the music. Then after awhilke, helicopters began hovering far outside . . . and I opened my window* and smelled smoke, and heard sirens, and realized there was a big fire somewhere up near the Trump Tower. Maybe the aliens have finally landed? I like the way helicopters hover. - --Quail *Yes, here on the 55th florr of the Empire State Building, the windows OPEN, and open WIDE, and there is no screen, no net, no balcony, NOTHING keeping me from leaping out or throwing fatal bricks and pens and wombats down to the street below. . . . scary, huh? Oooh, I miss my blimp. +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:15:17 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: RE: Jesus fish vs. Darwin fish; other fishies too Dolph Dolphed Dolphishly: >Since I go to church with lots of people who have the magnetic ichthus (as >well as its Darwinivorous cousin) on their cars, I get grumpy on this topic >a lot. I'm not particularly comfortable with the ichthus in today's society >-- a little too much persecution complex for my tastes. Christians in >20th-century America don't really have much place considering ourselves >"persecuted." (except on certain listservs.)... Thank you for saying that. I was in a friendship-jeopardizing argument with a devout christian a couple of years back over justifiable paranoia. After some hours of "discussing" the matter, we both came to a similar realization. He is not about to be murdered by us infidels, and I am not in immenent danger of being crucified for being the antichrist- which I'm pretty sure I'm not, but I'll let you all know if I turn out to be incorrect on this matter. (Tom, Russ, Nick, Glen, any thoughts on this one? And don't start arguing about which one of you is the antichrist, either.) I don't put fish on my car or bumperstickers. I might put up one of those King Crimson Discipline knot decals or a Lark's Tongues in Aspic one, though. I used to have a sun decal in my back window that evoked the Lark's thing. I have a Negativland tee shirt that says, "Christianity is Stupid," but I can't believe that christians wouldn't find the song by that title uproariously funny. Nevertheless, I don't feel comfortable about wearing it. I really like the bumpersticker that says, "I eat the flesh of the living and I vote." Monday, so far, so good. Happies, - -Markg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:26:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Rich Plumb Subject: Re: Song List - Sweetheart of the Rodeo As was pointed out by somebody else the Byrds never performed this song, just titled their classic album. It is an old cowboy song and I found a nearly anonymous writing credit, Harris/Kennedy. It has been performed by Emmylou Harris and I'm sure many others many years ago. rich ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:27:48 -0500 (CDT) From: donald andrew snyder Subject: RE: Jesus fish vs. Darwin fish; other fishies too On Mon, 31 Aug 1998 Mark_Gloster@3com.com wrote: > I don't put fish on my car or bumperstickers. I might put up one of > those King Crimson Discipline knot decals or a Lark's Tongues in Aspic > one, though. I used to have a sun decal in my back window that evoked > the Lark's thing. I have a Negativland tee shirt that says, > "Christianity is Stupid," but I can't believe that christians wouldn't > find the song by that title uproariously funny. Nevertheless, I don't > feel comfortable about wearing it. Amy Grant was apparently a good sport about the Young Fresh Fellows' song about her. I think she even won the guys over. - -Andy ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #336 *******************************