From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #333 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, August 29 1998 Volume 07 : Number 333 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: fish/falsettos [Eb ] A Night At The Opera ["Glen Uber" ] Re: Jesus fish, Darwin fish, swimming in the water ["Glen Uber" ] vote early and often [kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander)] Re: from rand - how to soak a feg trivia - and it's true [Eb ] Re: how to soak a feg trivia - and it's true [kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostran] Re: vote early and often [amadain ] Re: fish/falsettos [Capuchin ] Re: vote early and often [Jason Thornton ] Re: WHEEE albums of the year [MARKEEFE@aol.com] RS Top 100 of 80's (1980-89, presumably) [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: WHEEE albums of the year [Danielle ] Re: WHEEE albums of the year [Eb ] Re: vote early and often (1 percent Soft Boys) [amadain ] Re: Stephen Foster [tanter ] swimming miles out to sea.... [tanter ] Re: vote early and often [Jon Fetter ] Titanic again (0% RH) [tanter ] Re: Jesus fish, Darwin fish, swimming in the water (0% RH) [Jon Fetter ] Re: "Phooey" Album of the Decade! [Terrence M Marks ] Re: "Phooey" Album of the Decade! [Terrence M Marks ] Re: "Phooey" Album of the Decade! [KarmaFuzzz@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:25:49 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: fish/falsettos >Um... I'd just like to tell Eb he can't take the credit for "Quailspew". >That's undoubtedly mine. No WAY, bucko! LJ wanted me to mention one of her other favorite Gondolisms: "orifice-stuffing." Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:20:32 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: A Night At The Opera Russ Reynolds hat gesagt: > "A Night At The Opera" is LOADED with falsettos, but I'm pretty sure Robyn > Hitchcock isn't on that album. > No, but I'd like to hear him do either "The Prophet Song" a la "Furry Green Atom Bowl" or "'39" al a "Serpent At The Gates Of Wisdom". That would rawk! - -g- > -rUss > )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( Glen Uber Email: uberg@sonic.net ICQ UIN: 13311304 Web: http://www.sonic.net/~uberg "The war on drugs is a joke and we the people are the punch line." --From a letter to the Editor The Santa Rosa Press Democrat, 31 July 1998 )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:24:10 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Re: Jesus fish, Darwin fish, swimming in the water Jason Thornton dixit: > Man, I just had a sick thought, and I'm betting I should market it. > I had the same thought. I'll race you to the patent office. > np: that Billy Bragg/Wilco CD again > My "WHEEEEEE!" album of the year...(sorry Eb). > nd: Hansen's Natural Soda, "Kiwi Strawberry" > n.d. Red Hook Ballard Bitter "Ya Sure Ya Betcha", - -g- )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( Glen Uber Email: uberg@sonic.net ICQ UIN: 13311304 Web: http://www.sonic.net/~uberg "The war on drugs is a joke and we the people are the punch line." --From a letter to the Editor The Santa Rosa Press Democrat, 31 July 1998 )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 17:27:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Fuller Subject: from rand - how to soak a feg trivia - and it's true InPerspex wondered if A&M is going under. Well, this might just be in Canada, but here - one of the last videos I did was for "Big Sugar" - and they are signed on A&M/Polygram Canada. The record company weasel - sorry that's what I call them - told me that Universal had bought out Polygram, which had bought out A&M - so in the not so distant future - the labels on A&M/Polygram Canada - will be proceeded in larger lettering by - Universal Music... But that's the truth...actually - this record company weasel was pretty cool - he signed Robyn H. - but said he couldn't do anything about A&M *releasing* Robyn from his contract. fading back {yet again :} into useless trivia land, Randi *what scares you most will set you free* - Robyn Hitchcock *and the longer you hide...the more you deny* - Neil Finn ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 17:35:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: more lyrics - "Innocent Boy" Could it be , "Angel of the Decade, you flash some poise"? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 17:41:59 -0400 From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: vote early and often hey! if you can get onto netscape (or whatever) from another computer and can think of another e-mail address that wouldn't have logged onto the wall of sound vote, you can vote more than once! here's my first go at it: 1. robyn hitchcock element of light 2. the smiths the queen is dead (write in) 3. talking heads remain in light (write in) 4. the mekons rock 'n roll (write in) 5. tom waits raindogs 6. pretenders 7. the replacements let it be 8. the pixies surfer rosa 9. the stone roses 10. prince sign o' the times i tried to come up with stuff that wasn't in the top twenty. at least the first time around. ken "hunting for obsession time" the kenster ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:41:33 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: from rand - how to soak a feg trivia - and it's true >InPerspex wondered if A&M is going under. > >Well, this might just be in Canada, but here - one of the last videos I >did was for "Big Sugar" - and they are signed on A&M/Polygram Canada. > >The record company weasel - sorry that's what I call them - told me that >Universal had bought out Polygram, which had bought out A&M - so in the >not so distant future - the labels on A&M/Polygram Canada - will be >proceeded in larger lettering by - Universal Music... > >But that's the truth...actually - this record company weasel was pretty >cool - he signed Robyn H. - but said he couldn't do anything about A&M >*releasing* Robyn from his contract. I almost posted about this, but was too lazy. ;) But yes, I've heard that A&M, Island AND Geffen employees are all scared shiftless about being laid off at the beginning of the year, due to the Unigram merger. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 17:54:14 -0400 From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: Re: more lyrics - "Innocent Boy" >Could it be , "Angel of the Decade, you flash some poise"? i've always heard it as, "your flesh so cold" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:59:22 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: vote early and often Ken: >1. robyn hitchcock element of light >2. the smiths the queen is dead (write in) >3. talking heads remain in light (write in) The site makes you WRITE IN a monstrous classic like Remain in Light???? SHEEESH! Incidentally, I have a copy of Rolling Stone's top 100 of the 1980s issue. I suppose I could post the list if folks are desperate. I don't think the list was pretty savvy, however. Lots of old warhorses. STEEL WHEELS?? Oof. And I do believe that Remain in Light was #3 on that list, after London Calling and The Joshua Tree. If I'm not mistaken. Or maybe #2 was Graceland. Um.... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 18:07:31 -0400 From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: Re: how to soak a feg trivia - and it's true >>The record company weasel - sorry that's what I call them - told me that >>Universal had bought out Polygram, which had bought out A&M - so in the >>not so distant future - the labels on A&M/Polygram Canada - will be >>proceeded in larger lettering by - Universal Music... > >But yes, I've heard that A&M, Island AND Geffen employees are all scared >shiftless about being laid off at the beginning of the year, due to the >Unigram merger. in the not too distant future all music will be owned by one huge computer bank spitting out receipts and court summons to such an extent as to have even deadheads scared to play their favorite tunes on the front porch for fear of litigation extending until sometime in 2080...um the twenty seventies? ken "if we understood each other, there'd be no need to talk" the kenster ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 17:46:04 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: vote early and often >The site makes you WRITE IN a monstrous classic like Remain in Light???? >SHEEESH! Actually, how come you were just now shocked Eb? I mentioned writing it in myself, yesterday. My suspicions of being skipped and skimmed are now officially confirmed :). Incidentally, if you think the 80s list is bad, take a look at the 70s. EIGHT of the albums I chose were write-ins, including Quadrophenia, Fear, Modern Lovers, Low, and This Year's Model, none of which are exactly big obscurities. Anyone else vote on the other polls? What did you think? Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 15:29:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: fish/falsettos On Fri, 28 Aug 1998, Eb wrote: > >Um... I'd just like to tell Eb he can't take the credit for "Quailspew". > >That's undoubtedly mine. > No WAY, bucko! > LJ wanted me to mention one of her other favorite Gondolisms: > "orifice-stuffing." OK... does someone have all of the archives downloaded somewhere? Woj, you have clear access, I assume... could you grep those babies for /quailspew/i, get a file and line number and track down whose message that was? If the archives were zipped up someplace so I could download a year or so at a time, I'll do it myself. I'm so damned sure of this one. If I didn't mention it first (which would surprise me) then it was at least an independent generation. I'm guessing it was two years ago right after the diaries of Ms. Hedblade appeared. But I don't recall specificly. - -- J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 15:53:19 -0700 From: Jason Thornton Subject: Re: vote early and often At 05:46 PM 8/28/98 -0600, amadain wrote: >Incidentally, if you think the 80s list is bad, take a look at the 70s. >EIGHT of the albums I chose were write-ins, including Quadrophenia, Fear, >Modern Lovers, Low, and This Year's Model, none of which are exactly big >obscurities. Anyone else vote on the other polls? What did you think? I also had to write-in "This Year's Model" and "Low." Not to mention "Another Green World," "More Songs About Buildings and Food," and "Red." Sheesh. - --Jason np: Jesus & Mary Chain, "Munki" (must've been the fish...) - --Jason ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 18:57:14 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: WHEEE albums of the year In a message dated 98-08-28 17:32:28 EDT, you write: << > np: that Billy Bragg/Wilco CD again > My "WHEEEEEE!" album of the year...(sorry Eb). >> One of mine, too. That and the new Elliott Smith. So, what's the expression used for the opposite of WHEEEE? That is, what does one call an album that you thought was going to be really cool, but then turned out to be somewhere between tepid and lame (i.e., was disappointing)? Eb, have you a Gondolism for that one? Michael K., np Bats "Daddy's Highway" and almost always playing some sort of NZ Pop CD in general these days. In fact, that would have to be my WHEEEE musical genre for the year (not that any of the albums I'm listening to came out this year; it's just that I basically discovered Kiwi-Pop this year). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 19:04:31 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: RS Top 100 of 80's (1980-89, presumably) In a message dated 98-08-28 18:33:14 EDT, you write: << Incidentally, I have a copy of Rolling Stone's top 100 of the 1980s issue. I suppose I could post the list if folks are desperate. I don't think the list was pretty savvy, however. Lots of old warhorses. STEEL WHEELS?? Oof. And I do believe that Remain in Light was #3 on that list, after London Calling and The Joshua Tree. If I'm not mistaken. Or maybe #2 was Graceland. Um.... >> I would personally be curious to see it again. I haven't seen that list for, oh, 8 or 9 years now! At the time, I didn't like Richard Thompson, who, if I remember correctly, has, what, maybe thrity albums in the Top 20 alone! ;-) Now I'd think that's cool, though. Must be getting old. But I'll still be mad that "Hounds of Love" is nowhere in there. - -------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 16:28:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielle Subject: Re: WHEEE albums of the year Michael K says: >So, what's the > expression used for the opposite of WHEEEE? That is, what does one call an > album that you thought was going to be really cool, but then turned out to be > somewhere between tepid and lame (i.e., was disappointing)? Eb, have you a > Gondolism for that one? While I'm avoiding reading lengthy historical tomes, lemme take a punt on this one. Underwhelmed reactions, Gondola style: 'Ehhhhh.' (mild disappointment, it was OK but didn't live up to expectations. Also used to express general less-than-enthusiastic reactions to just about anything) Or: 'Blah.' (big disappointment, was really looking forward to it and it didn't even come close to making the grade. Also used to express negative feelings about annoying stuff in the world at large) Less easily defined: 'Ooof.' (Can be good or bad, but does express some sort of surprise at how whatever it is turned out. Entirely dependent on context) Danielle, pleased to have been reminded of 'hammy mofo' ;) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 16:47:47 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: WHEEE albums of the year Danielle daintily delineated: >'Ehhhhh.' (mild disappointment, it was OK but didn't live up to >'Blah.' (big disappointment, was really looking forward to it and it >'Ooof.' (Can be good or bad, but does express some sort of surprise at You forgot "Phooey." ;) I've also been working on a relevant Gondolism about my "elephant gun" lately, but it's not quite ready to send to the factory for manufacturing yet. Eb, still concerned about the bobby-pin problem ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 19:20:03 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: vote early and often (1 percent Soft Boys) >I also had to write-in "This Year's Model" and "Low." Not to mention >"Another Green World," "More Songs About Buildings and Food," and "Red." >Sheesh. I noticed too that there was no Eno. Not that I would have voted any of them in my personal top 10, but that's kind of a notable omission, as is "Coney Island Baby" which I don't recall seeing. And the fact that there were NO Roxy Music albums (!) would indicate that someone was definitely asleep at the wheel. I'm not surprised not to have seen any Soft Boys, but no Roxy Music is very very weird. I don't recall having seen the "Shaft" soundtrack either, which is also strange. Seems as if how they compiled it was- they made a list consisting mostly of some of the bestselling records of the decade (which would explain why "Who's Next" is there but not "Quadrophenia", I suppose) and a few "arty" choices like "Marquee Moon" as a sop to geek types. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 20:30:16 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: "Phooey" Album of the Decade! In a message dated 98-08-28 20:21:01 EDT, you write: << You forgot "Phooey." >> See, I think "Phooey" really nails on the head that feeling of total and inconsolable disappointment at finding that your once-favorite band/artists has taken a drastic turn for the worst. Knew I could count on ya, Eb! I guess there haven't been any "phooey" albums for me this year. Biggest "phooey" of the decade, though: U2's "Zooropa." - -------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 20:37:30 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Stephen Foster So, hey . . . who knows where a guy like me can go online to find a site where you can search for song titles by songwriter? Alternately, I'm specifically looking for a list of Stephen Foster songs, in case someone knows of a website especially for him. Thanks! - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 20:30:55 -0500 From: Zloduska Subject: Re: new thread Eb wrote: >Question posed in this week's Parade magazine: > >"Gwyneth Paltrow's ponytail looked like it exploded at the Perfect Murder >premiere, and Cameron Diaz showed up in bobby pins on Rosie O'Donnell's >show. What's going on?" > >I've been kept up all week, musing about this. Anyone have any thoughts? Quail? > >Eb Yes, I have many thoughts (most of them inappropriate to share with strangers). Regarding the Gwyneth/Cameron dillema: I think all womens' magazines should be printed exclusively in Japanese. This way, they cannot be read and will become obsolete and nonexistent. ~kjs 'Baseball sucks, mandolins rock.' ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:22:48 -0400 From: tanter Subject: Re: Stephen Foster At 08:37 PM 8/28/1998 -0400, MARKEEFE@aol.com wrote: > So, hey . . . who knows where a guy like me can go online to find a site >where you can search for song titles by songwriter? Alternately, I'm >specifically looking for a list of Stephen Foster songs, in case someone knows >of a website especially for him. Thanks! I'd just do a search on webcrawler or something. Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:26:02 -0400 From: tanter Subject: swimming miles out to sea.... Darlings, I adore you all (well, most of you anyway....) but I must ask that you PLEASE remember to put your RH% on the subject lines or something to indicate that a message just might include silliness. ;) Some of the posts have been a bit silly lately but I can't always tell from the subject line and you might remember that ages ago we agreed to make a notation.... it's not the hugest deal just now but volume has been especially high lately--I had 109 messages the other day after not checking the email for about 12 hours or so! And of those, 106 were feg!! Thank you beloveds..... Marcy :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 10:35:36 +0800 From: Jon Fetter Subject: Re: vote early and often Doh! Can anybody send me the URL again for the mainstream voting thingie? Thanks! Jon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 23:01:01 -0400 From: tanter Subject: Titanic again (0% RH) So...Blockbuster wants you to come to their stores at midnight, Sept. 1 to purchase the copy of Titanic that you're dying for. They'll enter you in a contest. Top prize is a trip for two. Make that a CRUISE for two!! Are they just being sarcastic or is someone missing the boat on this one???? ROTFL, Marcy :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 11:36:34 +0800 From: Jon Fetter Subject: Re: Jesus fish, Darwin fish, swimming in the water (0% RH) Why not a "Wallace" fish? He scooped Darwin anyway. (No, not the claymation figure!) >The people who have the Jesus-fish eating the Darwin-footed- >fish seem totally stupid to me. Aren't they basically supporting a Darwinian >principle here?! "Only the strong survive" -- in this case, the Jesus-fish >was (in the minds of these motorists) the better adapted for survival. It >would be lie someone from the Flat Earth Society having one of those little >compass-globes on their dashboard. Not to mention, it seems to kinda go >against the whole "love thy neaighbor" thing. "Love thy neighbor, unless he >should believe in evolution, in which case you might simply want to eat him." More apt would be to have the Jesus fish eating the babies of the Darwin fish--the Jesus fish's own fry will then have less competition for food, future nesting sites, etc. and will then be more reproductively successful, which is what fitness is all about anyway. I just can't imagine a full-grown largemouth bass eating, for example, a full-grown smallmouth bass. I'm wating to see a "Buddha" fish. Maybe in a Ying Yang design. Maybe some entrepreneur will make a "World Religeon Fish Set." You could plaster your car with currently unfashionable Babylonian, Egyptian and Greek god-fish along with lesser known divinities from every place on this globe of fish. Then go park at the local family diner at lunch time on a Sunday and see if anyone notices. > Personally, I think the Universe is a great big watermelon, wherein the >seeds are stars and the fleshy fruit is the so-called empty space around the >stars. One day, NASA will develop a spacecraft eerily similar in shape to a >melon-baller. This will finally enable travel to faraway places in the >Universe, via the worm holes created by the melon-baller/spacecraft. And the >juice from the watermelon will replace Tang as the official spacedrink. Oh, >and the watermelon juice will also be used as fuel. It'll happen; just you >wait. Hence the watermelon in the lab in Buckaroo Banzai. In Watermelon Sugar, Jon, who rather likes the idea of the kissing Jesus and Darwin fish ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 21:31:18 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: "Phooey" Album of the Decade! Michael K.: > See, I think "Phooey" really nails on the head that feeling of total and >inconsolable disappointment at finding that your once-favorite band/artists >has taken a drastic turn for the worst. Knew I could count on ya, Eb! Heh heh heh. > I guess there haven't been any "phooey" albums for me this year. >Biggest "phooey" of the decade, though: U2's "Zooropa." Oh, I've certainly had some Phooeys this year (and Smashing Pumpkins and Victoria Williams just miss): Brian Wilson/Imagination Soul Asylum/Candy From a Stranger Rocket From the Crypt/RFTC Polara/Formless Functional Phooey, phooey, phooey, phooey. The DECADE? Uhhh, well, here are some prime candidates which come to mind: The Amps/Pacer Sinead O'Connor/Am I Not Your Girl? Matthew Sweet/Blue Sky on Mars Moby/Animal Rights Living Colour/Stain Wir/The First Letter Helmet/Aftertaste Tin Machine/Tin Machine II J Mascis/Martin and Me Bob Dylan/Under the Red Sky Public Enemy/Muse Sick N Hour Mess Age (or however you spell that) If I had to pick one of the above? Ummm...I think I'd have to go with a transcendently crappy album by a guy whose previous three albums ALL were in my year-end top 10s: Matthew Sweet's Blue Sky on Mars. I'll not only give this album a Phooey, but a Phew to boot. It probably warrants an Oof, Eek and Blecch too. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 02:15:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: "Phooey" Album of the Decade! Phooey: > Brian Wilson/Imagination What did you expect from Brian Wilson, really? "Imagination" is about on par with "Brian Wilson" or "Sweet Insanity" : heavily produced ultrawimp pop that's hoping to cash in on the name recognition and the small cult of Brian Wilson worshippers. Prevailing theories include "He hasn't listened to anything but The Ronettes since 1977" and "Mike Love wasn't quite as useless as everyone says he was". He's never been a particularly good lyricist either. I think that "Imagination" is about on par with The Monkees' "Justus". Interesting if you want to see what some fellows who made good music in the 60s are doing these days, but generally weak as far as "music" goes. On the other hand, I'm the sort of person who thinks that the latest Yes album is pretty good, so my opinions amy not be reliable. Recommendation of today: Steve Martin's "Let's Get Small". Great banjo player. Funny. Occasional Hitchcock moments like "To open the show I always like to do one thing that is impossible, so right now I'm going to suck this piano into my lungs. Still four dollars to get in? That's not bad, you know, in today's world with inflation and all that, it's like nothing, it's like 'Gee, I got these four dollars I think I'll throw it out in the street. Oh, I can come in here for four dollars. Ok. What happens?" Recommendation of yesterday: Donovan's "Gift from a Flower to a Garden". It's not that great an album, but it has some good songs, that sort of pastoral feel to it that I dig and great packaging. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 23:55:15 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: "Phooey" Album of the Decade! Terrence "Pet Issue" Marks: >>Phooey: Brian Wilson/Imagination > >What did you expect from Brian Wilson, really? >"Imagination" is about on par with "Brian Wilson" or "Sweet Insanity" : >heavily produced ultrawimp pop that's hoping to cash in on the name >recognition and the small cult of Brian Wilson worshippers. I like "Brian Wilson" MILES better than "Imagination." On paper, "Brian Wilson" is every bit as musically complex and distinctive as a Brian Wilson album should be -- it just got undermined by crummy lyrics and stale arrangements/production. Ditto for "Sweet Insanity," really. By comparison, "Imagination" is nothing but simpering, la-la, happy-face melodies that sound like background for a Sesame Street homage to bunny rabbits. I still heard the gift on "Brian Wilson." On "Imagination," nada. The genius is gone. He's just a singer with a good ear for vocal harmonies now. I waited 10 years, and Wilson gave me 9 new songs. PHOOEY. And by the way, don't you dare pretend to be above "heavily produced ultrawimp pop," Terrence. ;) >"Mike Love wasn't quite as useless as everyone says he was". Pardon me while I snort. >I think that "Imagination" is about on par with The Monkees' "Justus". Oh come on, let's not be THAT cruel to poor Brian. And once again, despite your protests to the contrary, you prove your knack for comparing EVERYTHING to your pet artists.... >On the other hand, I'm the sort of person who thinks that the latest Yes >album is pretty good, so my opinions may not be reliable. >Recommendation of yesterday: Donovan's "Gift from a Flower to a Garden". Holding back, Eb Remember-Gibby Haynes is your friend ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 04:12:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: "Phooey" Album of the Decade! > And by the way, don't you dare pretend to be above "heavily produced > ultrawimp pop," Terrence. ;) What I listen to is "heavily produced wimp pop". I draw the line at ultrawimp. > >I think that "Imagination" is about on par with The Monkees' "Justus". > > Oh come on, let's not be THAT cruel to poor Brian. And once again, despite > your protests to the contrary, you prove your knack for comparing > EVERYTHING to your pet artists.... Boy, what would prompt me to compare an artist who steadily churned out hits turning the 60s, went downhill fast leaving a few embarassing albums, mostly disappeared during the 70s, tried some sort of comeback during the 80s, but it was based more on nostalgia and faded away quick after being greatly overshadowed by his past work, and recently released a weak, bland album that a small group of fans are raving about and everyone else is dismissing offhand (inhale) to The Monkees? In terms of style, they're very different. In terms of being comebacks that missed because the artist(s) just doesn't seem to have it anymore and offer a watered down "this is supposed to be pop", they're kinda similar. Have you a better situational comparison? > >Recommendation of yesterday: Donovan's "Gift from a Flower to a Garden". > > Not *my* fault that they aren't selling "In an aeroplane over the sea" anywhere in Gainesville. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 03:14:08 -0500 From: Zloduska Subject: Re: vote early and often Ken wrote- > hey! if you can get onto netscape (or whatever) from another >computer and can think of another e-mail address that wouldn't have logged >onto the wall of sound vote, you can vote more than once! here's my first >go at it: > >1. robyn hitchcock element of light >2. the smiths the queen is dead (write in) >3. talking heads remain in light (write in) >4. the mekons rock 'n roll (write in) >5. tom waits raindogs >6. pretenders >7. the replacements let it be >8. the pixies surfer rosa >9. the stone roses >10. prince sign o' the times > > >i tried to come up with stuff that wasn't in the top twenty. at least the >first time around. > Hey! This is supposed to be a "Best of the 80's" list of albums??? Okay, where the H-E-C-K is Sonic Youth's 1987, "Sister". I admit that I"m biased because sy is my favorite band, and that is my favorite album by them **but** I at least expected to see 'Daydream Nation' to get some recognition or a mention in there. Well you can't please everyone, and certainly not me. Kudos to you for the Tom Wait's 'Raindogs' vote tho', I really dig that album. ~kjs _not_ a member of the *Flat Earth Society* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 07:32:46 EDT From: KarmaFuzzz@aol.com Subject: Re: "Phooey" Album of the Decade! gondola@deltanet.com writes: > Michael K.: > >Biggest "phooey" of the decade, though: U2's "Zooropa." > The DECADE? Uhhh, well, here are some prime candidates which come to mind: > > The Amps/Pacer should either of these really count though? they're both basically accidental albums in that it wasn't U2's intention to make an albums (it was just a ep that got out of control), and The Amps was just meant as a side amusement while Kelley and Josephine Wiggs were doing their solo things (which they decided to never come back from, but that's another story). Pop is a Phooey album though. and that KD hasn't released anything in bloody long is pretty Phooey too. > If I had to pick one of the above? Ummm...I think I'd have to go with a > transcendently crappy album by a guy whose previous three albums ALL were > in my year-end top 10s: Matthew Sweet's Blue Sky on Mars. I'll not only > give this album a Phooey, but a Phew to boot. It probably warrants an Oof, > Eek and Blecch too. amen. still the phooey album of the decade HAS to be Morrissey: Your Arsenal. in fact, he's the phooey artist of the decade.......unless you give it to my bloody valentine for taking longer than Ken Starr. i wonder if they have any songs done yet. or even written. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #333 *******************************