From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #293 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, August 1 1998 Volume 07 : Number 293 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Make out music [Christopher Gross ] Re: The Complete Works of Robyn Hitchcock (Abridged) [james.dignan@stoneb] Rob'n'Roy [Ross Overbury ] Sad songs say so what... [JH3 ] Re: toilets and cricket (what???) [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programme] Re: robyn screen saver [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Re: bouncing [Gary Sedgwick ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #292 [Natalie Jacobs ] I've got my shoes on and I'm gazing away... [JH3 ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:00:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Make out music On Thu, 30 Jul 1998, JH3 wrote: > You know, now that you mention it, the fact that I've been putting > Skinny Puppy's "God's Gift Maggot" on endless repeat (at maximum > volume) just prior to getting started might explain quite a lot. Hey! Get out of my head! *I* was going to mention Skinny Puppy! (Although I was going to say "Human Disease (S.K.U.M.M.)," from their 1988 album _VIVIsectVI_.) Once I made out to Come (specifically _Eleven:Eleven_, their first, and at that time only, album). I know this sounds like a joke, but it's true, honest! - --Chris "I'll crack the Skinny Puppy jokes around here" Gross ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 13:57:28 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: The Complete Works of Robyn Hitchcock (Abridged) >The Bible: >"The world is created and an extraordinary man walks about it >performing miracles." you obviously haven't heard the "Readers Digest Super-Condensed Bible" 1. the world was born 2. humans were born 3. Israel was born 4. generations came and went 5. One special man was born 6. He died - or did he? 7. Find out soon... "I'm only you" "despite the fact that I see myself in a variety of metaphorical guises, there are times when I'm just you" James BTW - due to popular demand, I shall hunt out the lyrics to "You can call me HAL". You have been warned! James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 98 23:39:36 EDT From: Ross Overbury Subject: Rob'n'Roy 3 things to say tonight: 1) Roy Harper is good! 2) Why is it I never heard of him before his name was mentioned by a list member? My head may have been in the sand for a while, but not continuously since '67! He's played with all sorts of notables and has produced some at once challenging and listenable music, and yet he has escaped my attention for 31 years. 3) Does anybody else here think Robyn modeled some of his vocal style after Roy? Particularly the earlier stuff? 7) Thanks to Susan for pointing the way. - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:48:18 -0500 (CDT) From: JH3 Subject: Sad songs say so what... I wrote: >>...it also struck me that Robyn doesn't write a lot of >> sad songs - he can occasionally be harsh, wistful, and even >> menacing, but there only seems to be about one song per >> album, two at the most, that's actually sorrowful. ...and Lorelei L. replied: >Robyn's always struck me as a fairly melancholy artist-- >take "Raymond Chandler Evening" or "Autumn Sea", both of which, >I feel, capture that vague sense of hopelessness and depression >perfectly. (Or maybe that's just MY sense of hopelessness and >depression.) Maybe hopelessness and depression, but not necessarily sadness and sorrow per se - RCE is more evocative and atmospheric, whereas Autumn Sea starts out sad, but then he goes into the Glen Baxter-esque spoken bit at the end and the whole thing turns into a laugher, doesn't it? At the same time, I think QE is probably his saddest record, and yet maybe also his funniest as well. It's probably my second-favorite RH album next to EOL, not that that matters or anything... >I Often Dream of Trains, too, always struck me as a >melancholy album, although now that I think about it, it's not >sad so much as wistful and sort of intuitively dark. I agree with that - it's got "Autumn is Your Last Chance," IODOT, "Winter Love" and "Trams of Old London." But then it also has SIWIWAPG and Uncorrected Personality Traits. IODOT is really more of a haphazard collection of good songs than a cohesive "album." It just isn't particularly mood-sustaining, not that that's bad of course. Oh my God, look who's appearing live on VH1 RIGHT NOW - Yes *AND* the Moody Blues! Eeeeeaaaaggh!! (Maaan, that Jon Anderson - what is he now, 70?) John Hedges (what's this, five posts in one day? Yow!) PS: Sorry about the Skinny Puppy reference Chris - what can I say? Ya snooze, ya lose...! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 08:06:09 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: toilets and cricket (what???) >>>>> "James" == James Dignan writes: >> Those tales of student flats with an outside dunny are all >> myths? I'm deeply disappointed. A couple of years back, Paisley University had outside bogs in its very cheapest accommodation. James> Erm... I take it this is 'off-topic'. Nope, they're rock 'n' roll toilets . . . *and* near the Bungalow Bar, too. - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 08:28:16 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: robyn screen saver >>>>> "JH3" == JH3 writes: JH3> Anybody have any ideas as to what such a screen- saver should do? Uh, blank the screen? Power off after a set time? Install Linux? Print "Watch Out Jasper, This Operating System's Evil", then crash? JH3> One idea I had was to incorporate a Windows version of Tracy JH3> Copeland's "Hedgehog" program, which I (or somebody else, oh JH3> pleeeze pleeeze pleeeeeze?) would have to translate from Perl JH3> into either Pascal or C++, preferably Pascal. Hedgehog looks like a fairly standard travesty generator to me. Do a source search in shareware.com or the like. They're a standard u/g CompSci project, so there should be millions in whatever language you want. You can run Perl over Windows 95/NT, and probably should. JH3> That way you JH3> could have random Robynesque spoutings show up on your screen If I can dig out enough Robyn text, I'll have a bash at doing a section for fortune(6). Anyone interested? - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:07:51 +0100 From: Gary Sedgwick Subject: Give him back! I take it there aren't any UK RH gigs this summer, and that the Isle of Wight trip isn't happening either. If you Americans don't give him back to us soon, we'll just have to come over and take him back ourselves!! Quite a few people have asked me if I've moved to Germany; I'm there till October sometime, but I'm back in London almost every weekend. G. Uber writes: >I'm wondering if it would be possible to the same for RH songs (or >any song for that matter)?... Can any of you come up with others? "Underwater Moonlight" Two white statues come to life in the night, go for a swim and drown. Gary ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:43:07 +0100 From: Gary Sedgwick Subject: Re: bouncing On 30 Jul, Mike Runion wrote: > At the risk of making everyone ill at the thought, and possibly bringing forward horrid memories of > certain musical selections that wafted through the chill air of the now historic FegFest '98, I > submit the two albums that I have...um...made love to. ("Ooooh! Made love to!" they all titter > mockingly.) Love & Rockets "Seventh Dream Of Teenage Heaven", and The Edge's "Captive" soundtrack. I think so far for me it's just been Astral Weeks and some Otis Redding albums. Oh, and the constant whine that accompanies the BBC test card when BBC2 closed down for the night. Make of that what you will... Gary ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 08:30:56 -0400 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #292 Eb expostulated, > Alice Nutter of anarchist rockers Chumbawamba returned to her home in >Leeds, England on Wednesday (July 29) after sustaining serious injuries in >Turin, Italy on July 21. [really disgusting stuff snipped] Eb, as someone who's had four highly unpleasant eye surgeries, I say to you: don't. Just... don't. Please? >The Bible: >"The world is created and an extraordinary man walks about it >performing miracles." This is only a summary of the New Testament... >I'm wondering if it would be possible to the same for RH songs (or >any song for that matter)? "A man discusses his frequent railway-related oneiric meanderings." "A child is warned against the horrors of a lightbulb-headed entity, but realizes that the creature in question is, in fact, its own parent." "A married man is troubled by the apparition of his deceased first wife, whom nobody can see except himself." n. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 19:34:47 -0500 From: JH3 Subject: I've got my shoes on and I'm gazing away... >> Subject: The BRILLIANT Rufus Wainwright Y'know, I finally heard some Rufus Wainwright tunes the other day and they weren't bad. His voice sort of sounds like Paul Buchanan after a few vocal-delivery lessons from Leon Redbone, only a bit happier I suppose. I only heard the tunes once, but they were interesting in the same way the material on "OK Computer" was - you might not like the sound but if you try, you can at least appreciate the "unusualness" of what he's trying to do. It's not the sort of thing I normally listen to and I doubt I'll buy it, but I can see how it might appeal... Nobody responded about having heard the new Frank Black & the Catholics album, so let me just say that this record TOTALLY ROCKS, maybe too much even. It was recorded direct to 2-track, very raw, and I think it's the best thing he's released since the Pixies broke up. There are a couple of tunes that veer into hard-rock/metal territory, but you can hardly blame him, I suppose. I also picked up the new Neil Finn CD which was mentioned here a while back - - and I think I agree with both parties who mentioned it. The songs are great but the drum machine & bass tracks are definitely lackluster. It's still good but you can't help thinking what a great Crowded House album it would have been. The best new record I've heard so far this year is Stephen Duffy's "I Love My Friends," which is a major return to form for him after a couple of rather wimpy efforts. I only bought it because Andy Partridge produced and played on a couple of songs, but on hearing the whole thing I was, like, REALLY impressed - this is really shiny-catchy pop music at it's finest (aside from all those Robyn and XTC records, of course!) Finally: In answer to my own question a couple of days ago, the band that did the "Un Chien Andalou"-inspired video is called Esthero, and the song is "Heaven Sent." The song is just OK, really - semi-typical female-led shoegazer stuff, kind of of like "My Bjorky Valentine" if you can imagine that. Btw, I prefer to be either broiled or flambed, medium well, with a hint of fresh rosemary... John H. Hedges III ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #293 *******************************