From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #292 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, July 30 1998 Volume 07 : Number 292 Today's Subjects: ----------------- toilets and cricket (what???) [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James D] Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #290 [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Di] from randi - Dr. Katz...hhhmm...I'll make an RH link here somehow [Tim Fu] Re: sons of the Jazz age [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Yes, we've got a video!!! [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: from randi - Dr. Katz...hhhmm...I'll make an RH link here somehow ["M] can you say "Ewww"? [Eb ] Re: Lit lists [M R Godwin ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #289 [MARKEEFE@aol.com] Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #289 [Jason Thornton ] The Complete Works of Robyn Hitchcock (Abridged) ["Tsunami Dearest" ] Re: The Complete Works of Robyn Hitchcock (Abridged) [Tom Clark ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #289 [Jason Thornton ] Fwd: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #289 ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: robyn screen saver ["JH3" ] Make out music [The Great Quail ] Re: Make out music ["JH3" ] Re: The Complete Works... ["JH3" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:52:16 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: toilets and cricket (what???) >As for toilets, Dignan - Otago said: >>hmmm. the only outside toilets I've seen in Dunedin are at Carisbrook. You >>sure you're thinking of the right Dunedin? :) >Those tales of student flats with an outside dunny are all myths? >I'm deeply disappointed. (Speaking of sporting grounds, I was watching a >history of NZ cricket on video recently, and dammit, what the hell happened >to the team after Howarth left? Why do we suck so much now? ) you could be right... there may still be the odd one or two student flats like that, but the majority of that is legends from the dim dark past (I've never seen a student flat that still had an outside bog...). As to the cricket, Howarth was a great captain and a lousy coach. Since the 80s... Hadlee retired, along with Wright, Turner, Chatfield, Cairns snr, Crowe.... NZ started building up a good team again, only to have the coach and half the team decide to come home from a tour when they found themselves in the middle of a civil war. The coach was promptly sacked and team morale went through the floor. A series of poor coaches followed, tours went off the rails, players were sacked... the team fell to bits. Most of the good cricketers NZ has had since the 80s have either not lived up to their potential in the test arena (Rutherford, Nash, Harris, Fleming), been dropped for (sometimes spurious) disciplinary reasons (Morrison, Pringle), or just been dropped for no apparent reason at all (Greatbatch, Thomson, Watson). Too many good players leaving, followed by a shambles in administration. There are some reasonable young players coming through (Vettori and O'Connor, for instance), but I doubt that any of them is the new Hadlee or Crowe. Erm... I take it this is 'off-topic'. James ("and NOW we're talking about...!") James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:10:10 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #290 >O.K. I have been elected the one to ask for all the thick and non-word >play members of the list (or those who find the math too much) to >ask..."Whaa??" In your response please include an answer that even I can >understand. a is 1, b is 2, c is 3... e is 5. 13 letters after that is R b is 2. 13 letters after that is O o is 15. 13 letters after that is two past z, that is two into the alphabet when you start again... B l is 12. 13 letters after that is Y a is 1. 13 letters after that is N happy now? why not? Oh and Bayard. Please don't bandy the word "perception" around in my direction. It causes screaming fits >And originally I had just planned onsaying that it would be boss if Robyn >were to start covering Abba's "Take a chance on me" instead.. hey...it would work! James (doing his PhD in visual per.. well, you know...) PS - y'all really don't want to know the 2001 parody I did of Paul Simon's "You can call me Al", but you can guess what letter got added to the title... James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 01:19:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Fuller Subject: from randi - Dr. Katz...hhhmm...I'll make an RH link here somehow Ted mentioned that y'all get Dr. Katz in the States. We just got it here in Toronto a few months ago - what a great show - I only wish i had seen the first episode...anyone who *has* seen it - feel free to clue me in :} I'd love to see Robyn as one of Dr. Katz's patients, rambling on about prawns, trains, planting tomatoes, his book and telling Dr. Katz some of those stories we've heard during concerts. Now that would be cool :} I'd love to see/hear Dr. Katz's reaction. Btw - has anyone see "The Spanish Prisoner?" Jonathan Katz makes a cameo appearance... fading back into yesterday before tomorrow comes, Randi who had a one hour chat with Ms. Carole R. this afternoon that made my day! *what scares you most will set you free* - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:34:06 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: sons of the Jazz age >>>>> "Mike" == M R Godwin writes: Mike> WI64 is Mike> definitely one of Macca's jazziest tunes, but does it really Mike> date back to early Beatles days? Apprently (according to the BBC news report) he wrote the song in a fit of nostalgia when he went back to visit the house. - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 06:37:09 EDT From: KarmaFuzzz@aol.com Subject: Re: bouncing In a message dated 98-07-29 16:52:52 EDT, LORDK@library.phila.gov writes: > Bouncing on and off and on the digest, Im way confused. > Let me get this clear. > Someone brought up the question of whose canoodled to robyns music and > no one answered? > This cant be right. Robyn writes unabashidly eroticlly- charged music, > this is a list dedicated to him, and no one will come forward with > unabashidly erotic tales to tell? while the lyrics have a lot of erotic content, the actual music itself isn't all that sensual: most folk-rock (for want of a better term) isn't really. when i think of music to make love to, i tend to think of more etheriel or ambient stuff, just because it's easier to listen to on a subconcious level. robyn's stuff is too upfront: it doesn't fade into the woodwork as easily, as say, This Mortal Coil or Cocteau Twins often do. this is hardly a flaw: i can't imagine fucking to the velvet underground either. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:09:21 -0700 From: Mike Runion Subject: Re: bouncing KarmaFuzzz@aol.com wrote: > when i think of music to make love to, i tend to think of more etheriel or > ambient stuff, just because it's easier to listen to on a subconcious level. > robyn's stuff is too upfront: it doesn't fade into the woodwork as easily, as > say, This Mortal Coil or Cocteau Twins often do. this is hardly a flaw: i > can't imagine fucking to the velvet underground either. At the risk of making everyone ill at the thought, and possibly bringing forward horrid memories of certain musical selections that wafted through the chill air of the now historic FegFest '98, I submit the two albums that I have...um...made love to. ("Ooooh! Made love to!" they all titter mockingly.) Love & Rockets "Seventh Dream Of Teenage Heaven", and The Edge's "Captive" soundtrack. Mike (whose final class of grad school is tonight!) - -- Mike Runion Cocoa, FL, USA /******************************************************************\ | VCM: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/cones.htm | | Fegmaps: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/fegmaps | | Spoken Word Tape: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/wordtape.htm | \******************************************************************/ "Wait a minute. Time for a Planetary Sit-In!" - Julian Cope ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:11:31 -0400 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: Yes, we've got a video!!! >Everyone hates, despises, or won't watch videos. *I* like videos, Randi! Well, kind of. In the case of a song I'm familiar with, it's interesting to see whether the director's "vision" matches the one I have in my head. Usually it doesn't, but that's not always a bad thing. I don't envision dancing vegetables when I listen to "Balloon Man," but they certainly fit the song better than anything I could come up with. But since artists don't usually direct their own videos (with a few exceptions, like Beck), such a perfect fit between video and song is rare, and often as not the director's interpretation is silly, irrelevant, or just plain embarrassing. When a video works, though, it can really add to the song, and I think Robyn's self-made videos are a good example of that - along with a few others, such as Eddie's favorite, the sublime "Sabotage." And to give MTV its due, I probably wouldn't have started listening to Robyn at all if not for seeing the video for "Madonna of the Wasps" when I was sixteen. Watching the video now, I think it's a bit silly, but certainly not terrible. I was interested to note that it was directed by Mark Romanek, who went on to direct videos for Madonna, Michael Jackson, Nine Inch Nails (a Robyn connection there!), etc. >> Declan McManus is the son of a fairly successful jazz band musician - does >> that count, or do they both have to be rock musicians? > >and isn't his son a musician too? Yes, I believe that Elvis's son is now playing in his dad's new backing band (now that the Attractions have been given the boot). I can't remember whether he plays guitar or bass. n., who is willing to bet that her great-great-great-great grandfather beat up Randi's great-great-great-great grandfather in the same shtetl back in the Ukraine p.s. I will write an account of meeting Dolph and Mary the Other Ann Arbor Feg as soon as the bruises heal and the puffer-fish poison wears off. p.p.s. Eb, write to me privately about receiving your very own Tinfoil Eb (tm)! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:17:54 -0400 From: "Marcy Tanter" Subject: Re: from randi - Dr. Katz...hhhmm...I'll make an RH link here somehow >Btw - has anyone see "The Spanish Prisoner?" One of the best films I've seen in a long, long time. Highly recommend it to everyone! Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:00:00 -0700 From: Eb Subject: can you say "Ewww"? Also sorta bummed to hear that Universal is releasing a compilation -- I was hoping the original albums would be finally released in the States, given the band's new success. Off to the airport to pick up Kiwibait, Eb CHUMBAWAMBA'S ALICE NUTTER RETURNS HOME TO HEAL Alice Nutter of anarchist rockers Chumbawamba returned to her home in Leeds, England on Wednesday (July 29) after sustaining serious injuries in Turin, Italy on July 21. Due to severe facial injuries, Nutter was unable to appear at the group's last two shows (July 22, Rome and July 24, WOMAD, Reading, England). According to the band's publicist, Ellen Zoe Golden, this is what happened at the Turin show: "She had been beaten over the head at a riot in the parking lot of the venue in Turin; whether or not there were actually any police that hit Alice is uncertain. They were obviously involved; they were there. "She was treated at a hospital in Turin, and upon returning to the bus she felt overwhelmed with adrenaline and fell out of her bunk, splitting the side of her face. Returning to the hospital, it was discovered that she had two facial compound fractures along with nerve damage. She returned to her hotel room, where she sneezed and the blood vessels around her eyes burst and pushed her eye out. Luckily, she caught it and pushed it back in." [!!!!!!!] Nutter had been resting in an Italian hotel room ever since. On Wednesday, she took a train to London, then a car from London to her home in Leeds. She is still unable to fly and will not be able to make Chumbawamba's next show, shich is Aug. 9 at the Pepsi Island Festival in Budapest, Hungary. After this show, the band is off until Aug. 19. "It's too early to say if she'll be fully recovered to rejoin the band on Aug. 19," says Golden. The band is on the road through the end of the year. The riot was allegedly a protest march stemming from the suicide of two male anarchists, who killed themselves while incarcerated. Chumbawamba has many anarchist affilations in Italy and has had problems with the police there in the past. Meanwhile, Chumbawamba's 20-track Uneasy Listening, a compilation of rare and early tracks, is due in October on Universal. - -Carrie Borzillo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:46:05 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Lit lists On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, fred is ted wrote: > Bulletin from the Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things: > Another "all-time best" list is out. Top novels of the 20th c. The > list was devised by Random House/Modern Library to hype its catalog > for the new school year. Ulysses came in 1st (natch), Great Gatsby > 2nd, Portrait of the Artst 3rd, Lolita 4th (yes!), Brave New World > 5th.. I was charmed that the list announcement ran in the NYT opp. a > big pic of the Spice Girls in concert. I bet Baby Spice goes through > books like water. The response I read over here was that the list was stuffed with unreadable dead white U.S. males - not so much right at the top, but further down there were plenty of authors like the famously tedious Theodore Dreiser. Very few women, ethnic minorities, living writers. Not only that, but I couldn't find Flann O'Brien on the list anywhere! - - Mike G. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:33:49 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #289 In a message dated 98-07-28 16:44:10 EDT, you write: << Eb, who did make out to Roxy's Avalon once, which contains "More Than This" >> Ah, c'mon, who *hasn't* made out to "Avalon" at least once in his or her life? It's a painfully-obvious-yet-essential part of any seduction made during the past 16 years. - -----Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:44:56 -0700 From: Jason Thornton Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #289 At 02:33 PM 7/30/98 EDT, MARKEEFE@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 98-07-28 16:44:10 EDT, you write: > ><< Eb, who did make out to Roxy's Avalon once, which contains "More Than This" >>> > > Ah, c'mon, who *hasn't* made out to "Avalon" at least once in his or her >life? It's a painfully-obvious-yet-essential part of any seduction made >during the past 16 years. And here I've been using side 2 of Led Zeppelin IV all these years... - --Jason ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:31:31 -0700 From: "Tsunami Dearest" Subject: The Complete Works of Robyn Hitchcock (Abridged) fegs, In this week's issue of SF Weekly, there is a tidbit about a previous column which asked readers to summarize works of literature and/or anything else that other readers might find useful. One reader came up with the following: Herman Melville's "Moby Dick" "The demented captain of a ship battles a large whale, much to the chagrin of his beleaguered crew." James Joyce's "Ulysses" "An ad man walks about Dublin, stopping every now and then to chat with friends and family." The Bible: "The world is created and an extraordinary man walks about it performing miracles." I'm wondering if it would be possible to the same for RH songs (or any song for that matter)? Something like: "Balloon Man" "While walking through New York, I was caught in a downpour of various foodstuffs not long after a rubber creature (to whom I had not been formally introduced) exploded in my face." Can any of you come up with others? Cheers! - -g- )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( Glen Uber Email: uberg@sonic.net ICQ UIN: 13311304 Web: http://www.sonic.net/~uberg "When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading." -- Henny Youngman )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 20:32:18 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (luther) Subject: robyn screen saver Has anybody out there developed a Robyn screensaver for Windows 95? If not, could anybody on the list do so? -luther ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 98 13:33:49 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #289 On 7/30/98 11:44 AM, Jason Thornton wrote: >And here I've been using side 2 of Led Zeppelin IV all these years... Now I don't know if Jason was consciously making a "Fast Times At Ridgemont High" reference here or not, but... Has anyone else noticed that in that movie, DiMone tells Rat to put on side 2 of Zeppelin IV when he's driving around with his date, but then when the time comes, he's actually playing Physical Graffiti? I'm guessing this was intentional on the director's part. Of course, I'm so dense that I didn't pick up on it until like the 100th time I'd seen it. - -tc p.s. Ask me to do my DiMone impression sometime. On a good day it rivals my Hank Hill. p.p.s. The cafeteria sushi is exceptional today! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 98 13:42:49 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: The Complete Works of Robyn Hitchcock (Abridged) On 7/30/98 12:31 PM, Tsunami Dearest wrote: >In this week's issue of SF Weekly, there is a tidbit about a previous >column which asked readers to summarize works of literature and/or >anything else that other readers might find useful. > > >I'm wondering if it would be possible to the same for RH songs (or >any song for that matter)? > >Something like: > >"Balloon Man" >"While walking through New York, I was caught in a downpour of >various foodstuffs not long after a rubber creature (to whom I had not >been formally introduced) exploded in my face." A lot of his lyrics don't really tell a story, so it's kinda hard to make a Cliff's Notes version. But one that's pretty straight forward is "Lady Waters...": "Death comes to claim a medeival maiden who, unbeknownst to him, is afflicted with the Plague. As he drains the life from her body, Death acquires the Plague from her and dies; leaving the maiden with her life." - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:51:09 -0400 From: "Marcy Tanter" Subject: another demise HENDERSONVILLE, N.C. (July 30, 1998 4:28 p.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) -- "Buffalo Bob" Smith, the cowboy-suited host of "The Howdy Doody Show" who delighted the baby boom generation in the early years of television, died Thursday of cancer. He was 80. Smith, who lived in the western North Carolina town of Flat Rock, died at a hospital in nearby Hendersonville, said family publicist Kelly Stitch from New York. She said the family would not release further details. Fans knew the opening routine of the show by heart. Smith would shout out, "What time is it?" and the Peanut Gallery -- the kiddie studio audience -- would respond with glee: "It's Howdy Doody time!" Even though the TV show went off the air in 1960 after 13 seasons and more than 2,500 shows, Buffalo Bob and the freckle-faced marionette Howdy Doody were more than celebrities to millions of baby boomers across the country. They became like a member of the family to their young fans -- and the young at heart. Columnist Bob Greene wrote in 1987 that the show "may have been the most important cultural landmark for my generation." "I always liked kids," Smith, the father of three sons, said in an interview in 1994. "You can't kid a kid. They know right away if you like them or not." Among the show's other much-loved characters in the town Doodyville, U.S.A.: Clarabell the Clown, Princess Summerfall Winterspring, Phineas T. Bluster, Dilly Dally, Chief Thunderthud, Trapper John and Flubadub. One of the performers who played Clarabell was Bob Keeshan, later to become TV's Captain Kangaroo. "No one knows how hard we worked all those years," Smith told People magazine in 1987. "Live TV is the most difficult thing to do in the world. You're on the spot all the time." Recovering from a 1954 heart attack that sidelined him for months, he actually did some appearances from a specially built studio in the basement of his home. After his return to the NBC studio in 1955, he told The Associated Press he drove himself out of "a feeling of pride. You're happy that people want you to entertain them." He said the heart attack taught him to "remember your limits." Smith was never bitter after the show went off the air, saying: "We had a good run. Besides, how many TV shows ever lasted 13 seasons?" In the 1960s, Smith retreated from his spot in front of the TV camera and went back into radio -- this time as an owner. He bought three radio stations and dabbled in real estate. In 1970, he got a call out of the blue from a student at the University of Pennsylvania, who asked him to bring along Howdy Doody to the school and do a show. "I thought he was putting me on," Smith said. He wasn't. College students who had grown up watching Howdy Doody felt right at home back in the Peanut Gallery. Over the next six years, Smith and his famous sidekick made hundreds of appearances across the country. He and Mildred, his wife of more than 57 years, moved to Flat Rock in 1991 to spend more time on his other passion -- golf. He still made occasional appearances at nostalgia events, bringing his marionette with the snub nose and perpetual smile with him. Smith got his start on the radio and his nickname in his hometown, Buffalo, N.Y. "I did just about everything you could do on the radio when I was 15," he said. Two years later, singer Kate Smith came to Buffalo. Smith joined her vaudeville act, playing the piano at times and other times playing master of ceremonies. He was back working successfully in radio when NBC was looking for someone in 1947 to be host of a children's television show. That was the birth of "The Howdy Doody Show." Despite his efforts to keep a low profile in later years, Smith's trademark "Buffalo Bob" voice always seemed to give him away. "I walk into a supermarket and nobody recognizes me," he said in the 1994 interview. "Then I open my mouth and somebody always says, 'That's Buffalo Bob!' " In addition to his wife, Smith is survived by sons Robin, Ronald, and Christopher and three grandchildren. A private memorial service is planned but no date was given.  ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 13:58:55 -0700 From: Jason Thornton Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #289 At 01:33 PM 7/30/98 -0700, Tom Clark wrote: >On 7/30/98 11:44 AM, Jason Thornton wrote: > >>And here I've been using side 2 of Led Zeppelin IV all these years... > >Now I don't know if Jason was consciously making a "Fast Times At >Ridgemont High" reference here or not, but... > >Has anyone else noticed that in that movie, DiMone tells Rat to put on >side 2 of Zeppelin IV when he's driving around with his date, but then >when the time comes, he's actually playing Physical Graffiti? I'm >guessing this was intentional on the director's part. If I remember correctly, he actually ends up playing "Kashmir," right? I haven't seen that movie in years - except for the last ten minutes of it, which I saw about a week ago. I've always hypothesized that the "mix-up" was intentional, after I realized the "error." Actually, I figured it out way back in high school, when I borrowed Led Zeppelin IV after seeing "Fast Times," and discovered the music in question wasn't on there. Bummer. - --Jason ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:04:08 -0400 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Fwd: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #289 Tom Clark sed: >Now I don't know if Jason was consciously making a "Fast Times At >Ridgemont High" reference here or not, but... I figured he was. And I also thought about posting the question you ask below: >Has anyone else noticed that in that movie, DiMone tells Rat to put on >side 2 of Zeppelin IV when he's driving around with his date, but then >when the time comes, he's actually playing Physical Graffiti? I'm >guessing this was intentional on the director's part. We hear "Kashmir" -- from "Physical Graffiti" (right?) But the bombastic tension of the song does set the scene well, even though it is the wrong album. Dang I love that movie. It pretty much defined my generation. Of course, Damone sez "When it comes down to making out, whenever possible, put on side one of Led Zeppelin IV." So that'd be the song "Black Dog" which I can't imagine would set a very nice mood on a date. >Of course, I'm so dense that I didn't pick up on it until like the 100th >time I'd seen it. Ack. I got it the first time. I always complain about it whenever I see the movie. >p.s. Ask me to do my DiMone impression sometime. Alright! I'll buy the Cheap Trick tickets! Gene "Relax, alright? My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it." Hopstetter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:10:51 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: robyn screen saver Luther wrote: > Has anybody out there developed a Robyn screensaver for Windows 95? >If not, could anybody on the list do so? I was planning to do that someday. I did an XTC one last year - in fact it was a whole theme, so I have the necessary code and everything all ready to go. Unfortunately I still haven't figured out how to do decent bitmap animation, mainly because I'm really a database programmer, but I suppose I could learn. Anybody have any ideas as to what such a screen- saver should do? (Within reason...) One idea I had was to incorporate a Windows version of Tracy Copeland's "Hedgehog" program, which I (or somebody else, oh pleeeze pleeeze pleeeeeze?) would have to translate from Perl into either Pascal or C++, preferably Pascal. That way you could have random Robynesque spoutings show up on your screen while you stared at it for hours on end. And that way I probably wouldn't have to do any animation code. BTW, if anyone wants to check out the XTC theme thingie, it's at: http://www.alternatech.net/jh3/xtc Good luck, Jim! Your desktop will self-destruct in 5 seconds. John H. Hedges (not a hog, though I live only a few miles from Kewanee, IL, "Hog Capital of the World") Also: http://www.alternatech.net/jh3/robyn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 98 17:16:30 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Make out music >> Ah, c'mon, who *hasn't* made out to "Avalon" at least once in his or her >>life? It's a painfully-obvious-yet-essential part of any seduction made >>during the past 16 years. > >And here I've been using side 2 of Led Zeppelin IV all these years... Um . . . maybe that's my problem! Here *I've* been using Diamanda Galas's "Plague Mass." D'oh! - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:48:26 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Make out music >>>Ah, c'mon, who *hasn't* made out to "Avalon" at least once in his or >>>her life? It's a painfully-obvious-yet-essential part of any seduction >>>made during the past 16 years. >>And here I've been using side 2 of Led Zeppelin IV all these years... >Um . . . maybe that's my problem! Here *I've* been using Diamanda > Galas's "Plague Mass." You know, now that you mention it, the fact that I've been putting Skinny Puppy's "God's Gift Maggot" on endless repeat (at maximum volume) just prior to getting started might explain quite a lot. Hey, has anybody else heard the new Frank Black and the Catholics album? I don't think it's out in the US yet, but it's quite good... JH3 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:04:15 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: The Complete Works... G. Uber writes: >I'm wondering if it would be possible to the same for RH songs (or >any song for that matter)?... Can any of you come up with others? Ted, Woody & Junior: "Three teenage brothers develop a propensity for removing their clothes and congregating together around the house to apply various substances to their naked bodies. This, in turn, causes them to develop a fondness for public bath-houses." Veins of the Queen: "Out of sheer curiosity, an eccentric British musician tries to inject himself into Queen Elizabeth's bloodstream in order to gain a more intimate understanding of the nature of royalty. Unfortunately, he is thwarted by a member of the Queen's personal security forces." John H. Hedges ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #292 *******************************