From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #278 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, July 17 1998 Volume 07 : Number 278 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Menry Muggins [Eb ] Re: Muggins (techno/Eb/prog duds) [Terrence M Marks ] from randi - trying to catch up on some threads... [Tim Fuller ] Re: "Video Cleaning Service" [Capuchin ] Losing Time. [Capuchin ] Re: Menry Muggins [Danielle ] Re: Menry Muggins [Capuchin ] Re: Muggins (techno/Eb/prog duds) [dlang ] boom boom boom [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: South Park/Reasons for not posting [dlang ] Ram's Head query [Rich Plumb ] Re: Reasons for not posting [Rich Plumb ] Artist of the 90's [Rich Plumb ] Toast your computer ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] jay & silent bob [hal brandt ] Re: Muggins (techno/Eb/prog duds) [Ross Overbury ] Re: Artist of the 90's [Aaron Mandel ] Sender: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [Ross Overbury ] Re: Artist of the 90's [MARKEEFE@aol.com] TechnoFollowUp v. 1.0 [Christopher Gross ] Re: Loud Family in-store in DC! (fwd) [Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Menry Muggins The future expatriot wrote: >Jethro Tull is better because: >2) Tull never had three huge trucks with their name emblazoned on the >top during their overblown stadium tours. Points for lack of >pretentiousness. And ELP didn't write two albums which only contain one song. ;) >3) Importantly: tights versus capes. One could argue that Anderson's >penchant for lycra (or seventies equivalent) sprang from a practical >desire to leap about easily on stage. >Can we argue that for ELP? Does wearing a cape help one's keyboard skills? Well, not really. But if you're worried about others copying your style, it's useful for hiding what your hands are doing. In fact, I've heard that Bill Evans used to play piano enclosed in a 10-foot black cube, for the very same reason. >Do *you* wear a cape when you play the piano, Ebby? I would if I had one. Ditto for fuzzy Garfield slippers. >Your prog-of-choice is tackier than my prog-of-choice. So there. ;) Well, actually I also like Jethro Tull more than ELP. And my far greater enjoyment of Genesis and King Crimson (and heck, even Yes) is probably established. >Danielle, wondering if the yellow-striped shirt is meant to be >'ironic' or just plain appalling :) Well, originally, it was intended to be "attractive." But an angry hoard of sartorially zealous women have informed me otherwise. And that's how the blues were born. Eb, trying to remember what "Muggins" connotes ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 23:16:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Muggins (techno/Eb/prog duds) > > Fine. Just SEE if I make you that tape of The > > Six Wives of Henry VIII. > I think I've probably heard enough Rick Wakeman to last me a lifetime. > But thanks for thinking of me. Made me feel all warm inside. And just > see if I bring *you* a present in two weeks' time. ;p~ Too much of Rick Wakeman is never enough! > 3) Importantly: tights versus capes. One could argue that Anderson's > penchant for lycra (or seventies equivalent) sprang from a practical > desire to leap about easily on stage. Can we argue that for ELP? Does > wearing a cape help one's keyboard skills? Do *you* wear a cape when > you play the piano, Ebby? I think *not*. Wankery, pure and simple. I > do not concede. Your prog-of-choice is tackier than my prog-of-choice. > So there. ;) As a point of courtesy, when we've got a thread concerning both Yes and Jethro Tull, could we specify which Anderson? Did Renaissance or Gentle Giant dress up in any particularly notable way? Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 16:10:08 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Super big fuzzy muff, 50s, 60s, ska, Tull, and electronica >> Q: What the hell is so funny about this? > >A: The Superfuzz and the Bigmuff were two different type of late sixties >(or possibly more early 70's) distortion pedals. and here was I thinking they were both slang terms for...uh...never mind >> at ringler's the other week, capuchin asked which robyn song he thought >> would best lend itself to a ska cover (having already decided on >> Somewhere Apart, so i guess it was kind of a rhetorical question.) my >> immediate reaction was The Man Who Invented Himself, but the more i >> think about it, the more i'm convinced that the song i'd really love to >> hear skaified is Let Me Put It Next To You. > >Definitely "Midnight Fish". A Madness-bouncy-ska version of "Bass" would work well... or (at the risk of screams of protest) a slower, UB40-esque "Glass Hotel" or "One long pair of eyes", even a slow Specials-Message-to-you-Rudy-full-horn-section "Man with the Lightbulb Head". Several songhs from UM would work well in that style, too ("Tonight", "Queen of Eyes", "I got the hots for you"). But as to the overall best, I would love to hear an original-rocksteady-ska-Desmond-Dekker-esque version of "De Chirico Street". > >OK, I can do this: > >_50s_ no Chubby Checker? Fats Domino only 'bubbling under'? >_60s_ no Who but you include the Bonzos in your bubbling under? Hmmm... and I'd replace the Hawks with the Band. Yes, I know,. but it was the later incarnation who were the more successful and better known, as well as producing (for the most part) the better music. Then there's a distinct paucity of Motown, and country rock, and the Beach Boys, and... etc etc etc Susan, baiting Danielle with tongue firmly in cheek (ooh!) a dit: >Incidentally, house music was invented in Chicago. Just so you know, you, >you, KIWI :). and here was me thinking it had started in a cowshed in Tuatapere... ;)) >> And don't I know a certain Kiwi with a fondness >> for Jethro Tull? And can't we add some bonus >> points there, for bands who also wear TIGHTS >> without irony? probably two of 'em! np - Stormwatch. Talking of which, Danielle, if you're still in Ak, I hope you're staying above water... James (in sunny, dry, Dunedin) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 01:18:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: "Video Cleaning Service" i'm listening to uncarved pumpkins right now, and i have a question- on "video cleaning service", peter buck is playing guitar and robyn is reading an ad card, but he seems to know what the music is going to do before it does it... is this piece a commonly known blues progression or some such? =b np: dystentary fix ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 01:54:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Fuller Subject: from randi - trying to catch up on some threads... Okay - Why is everyone picking on Eb again? Eb has always been very gracious and kind to me in private email - I've asked him his opinions on certain albums - and he's written me back with his full comments very quickly. Our Eb is on top of his email - I can vouch for that from my own personal experience :} And eb, you can email me off-list - I can't find your email addy right now - - but I'd like to know what you think of the new Cornershop - they were named who were named the "Supertramp of the 90s by some Toronto radio station" - and I'm wondering about Semi-sonic. I like "Closing Time" - though it's a bit boring imo, but I dig the guy's voice...I also really like the Cornershop single. Advice please eb, when you have time of course ;} Gotta go - lots more to catch up on...but I'm exhausted... Oh - yeah - I love the "a lonely Jew on Christmas" song from South Park - since I'm Jewish it holds special hysterical laughter for me :} Also - the officer telling Kyle he wasn't allowed to eat X-Mas snow was priceless, imho. Miss keeping on top of the list but I've been a bit out of it... Susan - a long letter for you on the weekend - and Natalie, and you too Carole :} fading back into yesterday before tomorrow comes, Rand *what scares you most will set you free* - Robyn Hitchcock p.s. - cool that Jonathan Richmond (sp?) is in "Something About Mary." I adore Ben Stiller too - so that's the first movie I will see when I get out of the hospital :} ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:37:35 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: Reasons for not posting >>>>> "Mark" == Mark Gloster writes: >> South Park Mark> It is hard to imagine anything like that ever getting on tv. It's on good old plain TV here. We may be a messed-up little set of islands, but we know good teev when we see it. - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 01:32:58 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: Reasons for not posting >>>>> "Mark" == Mark Gloster writes: >> South Park Mark> It is hard to imagine anything like that ever getting on tv. >It's on good old plain TV here. We may be a messed-up little set of >islands, but we know good teev when we see it. Despite the whole stiff upper lip image the islands of which you speak might inspire, the stiff upward stick in the posterior of yankee culture seems to be fairly pervasive with respect to teevee programming. You guys had Monty Python while we had Three's Company. You had James Burke while we had Geraldo Rivera. You had Dr. Who while we had Voyage to See What's on the Bottom. You gave the world Robyn Hitchcock and the Soft Boys, we gave the world Wendy o. Williams and the Plasmatics. I guess I should have said "here." Culturally liberated places like the UK and New Zealand are natural exemptions. I mean in Nevada (any state which picks sagebrush as their state flower is fair game) they play Dukes a' Hazard on PBS. Please don't think that you brits have a corner on messed-up. Americans take a great deal of pride in our ingenuity in that department. Happies, - -Markg (Jeme's right. I actually am much better via email than in person. That's got to be pretty frightening to somebody.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 03:06:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Reasons for not posting On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 Mark_Gloster@3com.com wrote: > (Jeme's right. I actually am much better via email than in person. > That's got to be pretty frightening to somebody.) I do hope you know I was kidding. I put that in there just for yer self-effacing... err... self. I'm just glad somebody read a month old show review. Yers. Jeme. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 03:16:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: "Video Cleaning Service" On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, Bayard wrote: > i'm listening to uncarved pumpkins right now, and i have a question- on > "video cleaning service", peter buck is playing guitar and robyn is > reading an ad card, but he seems to know what the music is going to do > before it does it... is this piece a commonly known blues progression or > some such? I don't know if it's a well known diddy or not, but I knew where it was going when I first heard it. If it's not a standard, it's very regular. It just FEELS right, you know? I don't have the tape on right now, but could they both be playing guitars? I'll have to listen again... I think it's on top of my stereo right now. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 03:22:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Losing Time. On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, Tim Fuller wrote: > And eb, you can email me off-list - I can't find your email addy right now > - but I'd like to know what you think of the new Cornershop - they were > named who were named the "Supertramp of the 90s by some Toronto radio > station" - Pretty sure Eb said he hadn't heard it, but wasn't turned on by their last two efforts. Didn't you say that just a day or so ago, Eb? > and I'm wondering about Semi-sonic. > I like "Closing Time" - though it's a bit boring imo, but I dig the > guy's voice...I also really like the Cornershop single. I think you like the vocal in Closing Time because it sounds exactly like Michael Stipe c. 1987. Other than that, I think the song's atrocious. The lyrics are stupid stupid stupid and the tune is just another boring summer of '98 radiosong. > p.s. - cool that Jonathan Richmond (sp?) is in "Something About Mary." > I adore Ben Stiller too - so that's the first movie I will see when I get > out of the hospital :} I think I'm going to see this, but it scares me. I'm not a big fan of the first two movies (first? at least previous), but I did like Bill Murray in Kingpin. I'm wondering if maybe talented actors can make the material palletable. Ben Stiller's amazing and if you haven't yet heard my plug for Zero Effect, pretend you have. Coming to video on the 17th in these parts, I think. My life like anticeptic stings. Je. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 03:46:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielle Subject: Re: Menry Muggins > The future expatriot One week and six days, to be exact. > >Jethro Tull is better because: > Points for lack of > >pretentiousness. > And ELP didn't write two albums which only contain one song. ;) That can only be a *disadvantage*. Besides, Passion Play was broken up by that attractively whimsical 'Hare Who Lost His Spectacles' thingy. ;) > >3) Importantly: tights versus capes. One could argue that Anderson's > >penchant for lycra (or seventies equivalent) sprang from a practical > >desire to leap about easily on stage. > You really are a bitch. :) Besides which, Ian has pretty good legs. > >Can we argue that for ELP? Does wearing a cape help one's keyboard skills? > Well, not really. But if you're worried about others copying your style, > it's useful for hiding what your hands are doing. ;p > >Do *you* wear a cape when you play the piano, Ebby? > I would if I had one. Ditto for fuzzy Garfield slippers. Oh, stop it. You'll put me off my Vegemite on toast. Incidentally, I have a black velvet opera cloak from the forties, if you're really stuck. Green satin lining, too. > >Danielle, wondering if the yellow-striped shirt is meant to be > >'ironic' or just plain appalling :) > Well, originally, it was intended to be "attractive." But an angry hoard of > sartorially zealous women have informed me otherwise. You have your own 'hoard' of sartorially zealous women? I'm surprised you still have time to post. > Eb, trying to remember what "Muggins" connotes It means 'me' in a derogatory, resigned sort of sense. As in 'oh god, here comes another anti-Eb attack. I suppose it's up to muggins'. James a dit: > np - Stormwatch. Talking of which, Danielle, if > you're still in Ak, I hope > you're staying above water... > James (in sunny, dry, Dunedin) Did I say one week and six days? And yes, thank you, our house is on top of a hill. The sewage pond down in the valley looks a tad dangerous, however. And I refuse to accept weather-related needling from you, James, in a town where outside toilets are still the norm. ;) Danielle, still trying to work out why people hated Mallrats, as it plays in the next room _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 04:46:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Menry Muggins On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, Danielle wrote: > Danielle, still trying to work out why people hated Mallrats, as it > plays in the next room I dig Mallrats. In fact, I dig all the Kevin Smith flicks. I don't want to start that Chasing Amy argument again, but Mallrats was fun. Ben Affleck cracked me up. All that Star Wars stuff was funny. I just dug the whole thing. Sue me. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:28:13 -1850 From: dlang Subject: Re: Muggins (techno/Eb/prog duds) Danielle joshed re :ELP: Do *you* wear a cape when you play the piano, Ebby? I think *not*. Wankery, pure and simple. I do not concede. Your prog-of-choice is tackier than my prog-of-choice. So there. ;) Tull never used cannon to start up their shows either,which is another plus in their favour as far as I'm concerned. Mr Anderson did however, rip off Roland Kirks' flute style outrageously, which was very naughty of him. I only really liked Tull right at the beginning , after the second album I lost interest in them, but I used to really like Keith Emerson when he played with the Nice.Why then do I dislike ELP so much ? Please explain? dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:58:36 -0400 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: boom boom boom >Incidentally, house music was invented in Chicago. Err... I thought it was Detroit. n., still convinced that all culture emanates from the Midwest ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:30:32 -1850 From: dlang Subject: Re: South Park/Reasons for not posting But, as for South Park, is the show as great as its adherents--George >>Clooney, say--claim? > >Sometimes it's funny, sometimes it isn't. It certainly is better than most >of the inane programs on TV. Since it's on Comedy Central it will probably >vanish soon. :) We just spent the past 5 weeks at school analysing the Satan vs Jesus episode with the grade 10's ,( its been on public Tv here, with the hard core swearing beeped out ) Theres a lot to analyse and the kids mostly enjoyed watching it, but at least half of them still didn't write reviews of the show as asked, which blows my " show em things they likein the hope they'll do more work " theory out the window ( or through Cartman's arse , whichever you prefer) I mostly like the show, its very black , very pessimistic. I enjoy it because its so critical of society in general , it targets most of my pet hates. Whereas the kids love the fart jokes and the sex mad chef.Conservatives I'm sure would consider it disgusting and call for a ban and really enjoy frothing at the mouth about its subversive influence. So basically , it has something for almost everyone! dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:31:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Rich Plumb Subject: Ram's Head query On the Ram's Head tape robyn introduces a song by saying that the following song will be in a film. Not sung by him, but by an Australian actor. Does anyone know the details? I have been off this list for the last couple of months and have only just caught up with the digest so I apologize if this has already been asked and answered. thanks, rich ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:38:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Rich Plumb Subject: Re: Reasons for not posting Mark Gloster said: > BTW: I saw Something About Mary last night. It was surprisingly > funny. Some _very_ low comedy, but pretty well done. > In the review they mentioned that Jonathan Richman appears as a sort of Greek Chorus between scenes. I was rather shocked, but now I have to see it. In their previous film, "Kingpins", Jonathan also had an appearance. I wonder what's the connection. rich ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:06:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Rich Plumb Subject: Artist of the 90's I personally don't feel that Beck will be remembered by the year 2000 let alone be remembered as the artist of the 90's. No matter what kind of production technology you use, you still have to write good songs. Whatever happened to Pavement anyways? Weren't they the chosen ones a year or two ago? I think the Sun City Girls are the ones myself. rich ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:18:01 -0400 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Toast your computer I just grabbed the Soft Boys yelling "Toast!" during the first version of "Have A Heart, Betty (I'm Not Fireproof)" from the "Invisible Hits" CD and made it into a system sound for my Macintosh. So now whenever I get mail my computer will yell "Toast!" I also saved the file as .wav and .au, so if you want it, email me privately and I'll send it to you. If those formats aren't right for Windows, tell me what format is and I'll convert it for you. ++++++++ Gene Hopstetter, Jr. + Online Design Guy http://extra.newsguy.com/~genehop/ ++ All hail Brak! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:39:47 -0600 From: hal brandt Subject: jay & silent bob > I dig Mallrats. In fact, I dig all the Kevin Smith flicks. Don't miss the "Jay & Silent Bob" comics from Oni Press. They are written by Kevin Smith and are hilarious. They are the story of what happens to J&SB between the end of "Chasing Amy" and the new movie "Dogma" coming soon to your local multiplex. /hal PS-Other funnybook recommendations: Cerebus, The Invisibles, Acme Novelty Library, Preacher, Black Hole, Transmetropolitan, the proverbial many more. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 98 11:13:49 EDT From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: Muggins (techno/Eb/prog duds) Terry said: > Did Renaissance or Gentle Giant dress up in any particularly notable way? Gentle Giant! How come nobody mentioned them in the proggie-slagging thread? I presumed nobody else here remembered them (Mike Godwin excepted; Mike remembers *everybody*). I've seen Gentle Giant perform. They looked pretty normal. - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:22:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Artist of the 90's On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, Rich Plumb wrote: > Whatever happened to Pavement anyways? Weren't they the chosen > ones a year or two ago? funny you should mention that, since both they and Beck were accused of creating the "slacker" aesthetic in music. i think it's early to dismiss Pavement; we seem to be confusing bands whose influence can be heard among the people that grew up listening to them with bands whose 'influence' is that they broke commercially and caused labels to sign a bunch of other bands with the same influences as them. a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 98 11:19:52 EDT From: Ross Overbury Subject: Sender: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org > >Can we argue that for ELP? Does wearing a cape help one's keyboard skills? > > Well, not really. But if you're worried about others copying your style, > it's useful for hiding what your hands are doing. In fact, I've heard that > Bill Evans used to play piano enclosed in a 10-foot black cube, for the > very same reason. Wakeman used it mostly to hide his beer belly. For some reason prog rock and beer bellies just don't mix. At least not back then. Yes played Montreal for free a couple of weeks back when my email connection was out. They've got another blonde keyboard player now - -- a guy from Russia. The rest of the lineup is the same as for Tales of ... (the rest is embarassing Anderson doubletalk). PS: Mountains really did come out of the sky, dammit! - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:27:40 EDT From: MARKEEFE@aol.com Subject: Re: Artist of the 90's In a message dated 7/17/98 7:07:59 AM, you wrote: <> I suppose it will depend on how one summates the whole music-in- the-90's experience. Beck certainly made a big impact on music of the latter half of the 90's, but I think someone would have to be suffering from the dreaded recency effect to say that Beck was in some way more "the artist of the 90's" than was Nirvana, who, up until Beck, were generally considered the most influential band of their semi-decade. Maybe time moves too quickly anymore for an entire decade to be reigned over by one artist/band. But, what about Tori Amos? I'm nowhere near as crazy about her as I was back in '92, but I think "Little Earthquakes" might have started the whole chicks-speakin'-their-mind phenomenon that has grown into Lilithfairism. And I also think her new album is "contemporary" and "fresh" and "proactive" enough (well, okay, maybe it's not proactive) to keep her out of the has-been file. I can't think of many other artists who have transcended nearly the entire decade without getting super-stale. Perhaps, along similar lines, some people might say Sarah McLachlan has done that; I just have a hard time seeing her as a powerful enough persona to carry that flag. And, of course, Ani D. has been around for the whole decade, but to tout her as the artist of the 90's would be to stamp hindsight all over that evaluation, seeing as how she didn't really break into mass consciousness until '95 or '96. If you're really into trip-hop and want to be trendy and anticipate the future of music, you might say Tricky is the artist of the 90's, but, I don't know. . . But I can't wholeheartedly endorse any of these artists as THE ONE band/artist of the 90's. I guess I would probably divide the decade into thirds and put one band/artist as the most important for that 1/3-decade. For the early 90's, I'd go with Nirvana; mid-90's is Beck (really close call with Smashing Pumpkins, but I think Beck has been more influential); late 90's, if their 1999 release meets with public anticipation, would have to be Radiohead. There might be some personal bias here, but I feel a pretty strong objective argument could be made for them, too. In fact, the press already does that enough, so I won't bother. What about other decades? They *seem* a little more obvious to me, but maybe not. 50's -> Elvis. 60's = Beatles. 70's. . . hmmm. . . Zeppelin or Floyd? I'd go with Zeppelin; they transcended more categories and were a lot closer to the hard rock sound that the 70's were all about. 80's? Gonna go with U2. Madonna would have to be a contender, except she wasn't around from 80-83. U2, on the other hand, had "really important" albums in both halves of the 80's -- '83's "War" and 87's "Joshua Tree." I hate 'em now, but they were so cool back then. Who knows? Maybe, once we're a few years out of 'em, the 90's will seem as obvious to me as these other decades. At the moment, however, it just seems like a big ol' mess. - -----Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:28:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: TechnoFollowUp v. 1.0 On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Danielle wrote: > Ha. I give Chicago its due. Reeeeespect, and word, and all that. But > the impression I get is that techno is a sort of sideline genre in > the States, whereas down here it - or its influenced genres - play in > every cafe, take up over half the playlist on student radio stations, > more gigs play with DJs, international and local, than with bands... I > mean, this is big biccies, as we say down here. Am I wrong about its > place in the US market? I'm perfectly willing to be corrected. :) Techno certainly isn't the big biccies up here that it is down there. On the other hand, it's no longer underground either -- it's just a minority taste, like death metal or jazz. "Sideline genre" might make it sound more marginal than it is; but it is true that "electronica" is hardly integrated into the mainstream at all, except for a couple of acts like Prodigy. At least mainstream music listeners are aware of the stuff now; five years ago it was almost completely underground. I didn't mention this when it was still a hot topic, but I've seen Repo Man about 15 times. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:33:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Loud Family in-store in DC! (fwd) On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, dmw wrote: > if y'all can stop arguin' about mystery flat's right to live or lack > thereof for half a mo', i'd like to fall sobbing on my knees and beg and > plead and prostrate myself to get as many of you as can to show up for the > Loud Family's free in-store performance next tuesday, as detailed below. Alas, this Workin' Feg will still be at work until well after 5:00 that day. You and the Loud Family have my best wishes, though.... Is anyone in DC planning a pre-NMH Feg meet? - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #278 *******************************