From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #271 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, July 14 1998 Volume 07 : Number 271 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Revelling in evil [amadain ] to those interested... [Eb ] Re: Revelling in evil [Terrence M Marks ] Re: Annoyance [was:Rock over London (98% petulant-child content & 2% critics inflated ego content, he wouldn't let any more of it go)] [] Re: Quail is the Law [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] fibbers ["Chaney, Dolph L" ] Re: John McLaughlin. [dlang ] Re: Quail is the Law, Quail under Will [dlang ] RE:revelling in evil [dlang ] bernin down the house... [Mark Gloster ] Re: Revelling in evil [amadain ] Re: list catchup... [hal brandt ] Re: zombified [M R Godwin ] latest celeb demise [hal brandt ] In defense of Watt [Dede Davis ] Re: zombified [Dede Davis ] Re: Revelling in evil [Aaron Mandel ] Blunstone albums [M R Godwin ] sharkboy utility belt ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: Quail is the Law, Quail under Will [lj lindhurst ] My New Feg-Symbols Page ["JH3" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 01:34:18 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: Revelling in evil >> This issue has always intrigued me, and I don't have a clear answer in >> my head, but I'll forge on anyhowze... > >I had thought that I had given a decent answer, but maybe it didn't get >through. The reason it didn't get through was because it is not the answer to any question anyone is asking. To some up: WE KNOW THAT ALREADY. We have already moved on. You state: > When the MPAA was founded, >and possibly now, people felt that sexual content was more harmful to >children than violent content.) What we are asking is not, "what does the mpaa feel?", we are asking "why do they feel this?". Capiche? >And, y'know, I may not like the opinions of some people, but come the >revolution, you won't find me directing the barbarians towards Andrea >Dworkin. Where did that come from? She represents all "feminists", eh? Shame on you for perpetrating the very error you were falsely accusing me of a few days ago, i.e., group stereotyping. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 23:23:50 -0700 From: Eb Subject: to those interested... I hear that Brian Wilson is doing a AOL chat at 6 pm EST tomorrow (Tuesday). Wow! No word on whether Alice Cooper will join him. He had been messing with Mozart and fussing with fugues for nine years -- classical piano, theory and harmony, mandolin -- so his folks were foursquare when it came to the pop scene. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 03:41:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Revelling in evil > > What we are asking is not, "what does the mpaa feel?", we are asking "why > do they feel this?". Capiche? Oh. Sorry about that. I hadn't noticed. Is this in terms of social theory and conjecture or would anyone be interested in studying the people who set up the mpaa ? > > >And, y'know, I may not like the opinions of some people, but come the > >revolution, you won't find me directing the barbarians towards Andrea > >Dworkin. > > Where did that come from? > > She represents all "feminists", eh? Shame on you for perpetrating the very > error you were falsely accusing me of a few days ago, i.e., group > stereotyping. I never said such a thing. She doesn't represent feminists. She is, however, representative of "people whose views I severely dislike" much in the same way that were I to need to mention in passing a musician whose music I dislike, I might mention The Osmonds. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 03:08:17 -0500 From: Zloduska Subject: Re: Annoyance [was:Rock over London (98% petulant-child content & 2% critics inflated ego content, he wouldn't let any more of it go)] At 01:13 AM 7/12/98 -0500, you wrote: >Eb said, from on high: >>Oh don't worry, Ben, your Petulance permit isn't up for renewal yet. No >>need to reapply. > >Thank you for the extention, oh Great One. > >BTW, whatever happened to Eb's live chat? > > Sorry to interject, but I noticed something. This thread itself illustrates the power of annoyance, while we are/were on that topic. It's an opinion. That friction/abrasiveness/whatever fits into the "good-annoying camp" and the "bad-annoying camp", just like the issue of Robyn's nasalness. In the short time I've read the list, I can see there are Eb supporters and detractors. He either gets you thinking or gets your goat, like a bad song on the radio that gets under your skin but you can't help but mouth the words to it. You seem oblivious to both, Eb. Rock on. ~kjs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:07:53 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: Quail is the Law >>>>> "JH3" == JH3 writes: JH3> IIRC, the original title of that film was "Siddhartha and JH3> Ted's Excellent Spiritual Adventure." Excellent! - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 03:00:29 -0700 From: West Subject: Re: Revelling in evil movies and homonyms Jon Fetter wrote: > I wish they had shortened Weller's death scene instead. I can > watch any part of Robocop again except for that part--I leave the room or > channel surf. What a way to die, and filmed in such detail. Consider yourself lucky--the unrated version of this scene is even worse than the original, and that was pretty bad itself, as you know. As for the bit with the corporate lackey being blown away by Ed, the theatrical version of this scene was pretty funny, but the unrated version goes on and on and simply stops being funny and becomes appalling. This, along with certain elements of "Basic Instinct", "Showgirls" and the whole of "Starship Troopers", is why you will never convince me to watch a Paul Verhoeven film again. I can't quite fully explain it, but it seems to me that whilst someone like John Woo presents a very stylized violence a la Peckinpah, Verhoeven just really loves killing people. He's totally into the senseless brutality of it. He revels in the blood and gore. I know "Starship Troopers" is perceived by some as a satire, but I could not. Perhaps, as a victim of violence (hi "Dad"), I am too close to the matter to see it clearly, but I have never been able to enjoy all those gory horror movies on any level, and I'll tell you what else--I will never fully trust anyone who does. I truly believe that anyone who gets off on dismemberment and gore and suchlike, even if it's "just" a movie, is not a very good person. I have known people who enjoyed gory horror films almost to the exclusion of anything else, and I always felt uncomfortable around them. I don't know if I'm making any sense. I just think that there's a difference between attempting to understand the evils around us and using them as a source of pleasure and entertainment. Somethingly, West. - -- *********************************************************************** West A. Moran E-mail: ipalindromei@earthlink.net "...No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity." "But I know none, and therefore am no beast." --William Shakespeare, "Richard III". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:04:34 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: 25 or 16 tambourines to 3 since there's been so much controversy: on the (french) lolita label, cat # 11001/2 stereo ev 300, 1986 track listing: with a cantaloupe girlfriend, i go wild, marjorie tells me, feel a whole lot better, sorry, in love in too, lucifer sam, real is real, jet fighter, stupid einstein, and so we run, fall to the ground, a day in erotica, tomorrow, in my own time, on my own, when lightning starts, seeing is believing if i bought it today, with it's minimalist graphics (full song writing & perf creds though) i just might think it was a bootlegged release. but if so, in 1986, it was the first such i ever saw, and i got it in a store that did no truck with 'questionable' releases (i had some promos, even back then, but not from the umcp record co-op) someone cranked it all into the cddb, so i'm not the only person jealously guarding a copy... - -- d, who bought the first throwing muses album in the same store p.s. i'm struggling valiantly not to weigh in on the whole evil/morality in art thing. - - oh,no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmayowel@access.digex.net - - and dmw@mwmw.com ... get yr pathos at http://www.pathetic-caverns.com/ - - new reviews! tunes, books, flicks, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:57:24 -0400 From: "Chaney, Dolph L" Subject: fibbers Haven't heard much of the Geraldine Fibbers, but guitarist Nels Cline is THE good thing about Mike Watt's _Ball-Hog Or Tugboat_ album. His playing is revelatory amidst the muck. I prefer Alasdair Gillis to Aleister Crowley. Dolph n.p.: James Dignan, "Serpent At The Gates Of Wisdom" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:07:35 -1850 From: dlang Subject: Re: John McLaughlin. mike wrote >McLaughlin is an out and out >jazz-rocker who specialises in those 90 m.p.h. speed riffs in 17/11 time - >totally non-psychedelic. The only thing of his I've ever appreciated is a >band called Shakti where he plays with Indian musicians. This was true from the Birds of fire era, but .I must say however that when I saw Mahavishnu in 1974-(Visions of the emerald beyond ) it was pretty psychedelic, lots of strings playing demented backing to John LucPonty and McLaughlins shredding guitar.. The more recent music with the trio is much more laid back.He is particularly good when playing with Dominic De Piazzto and Trilok Gurto-1990's era. Some of their product verges on the psychedelic , at least in my opinion. Mclaughlin plays acoustic ,Gurto is a maniac. Its very spacey stuff, with Gurto doing things with percussion that are transcendent - dipping instruments in water, etc to vary the pitch . Its still however, a very jazzy groove anmd totally instrumental . I can't quite see the pizza mans connection to Spirit or the Prunes. dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:29:48 -1851 From: dlang Subject: Re: Quail is the Law, Quail under Will The Quail boasted >break the tentacles off of my Nyarlathotep! You have Nyarlathotep, the crawling chaos !. How do you manage to keep in the House. I bought one at my nearest five and dime store . I put it on the shelf next to my Mattel collection of "The Great Old Ones " and when I came back it was gone without a trace, but the room was a total mess.! My bust of Phil Lesh was totalled and the corners of my Miles davic tapes were badly chewed. The guy in the shop said you have to keep it in a lead box or it crawls off, leaving chaos in its wake. How have you managed to keep yours so far? How about a trade.Would you swop yours for a complete set of Zoogs, or perhaps some Toad things ?. I do have a mint effigy of the " Ghoul that was now Pickman " which is pretty nasty. I would offer that and the toad things for your Nyarlathotep and throw in a Night Gaunt for good measure. Shipping might be a problem, but as long as we don't send them by plane we should be ok. Shipping containers are pretty strong, so it should contain them , at least for a while....... dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:45:42 -1850 From: dlang Subject: RE:revelling in evil erry wrote >And while we're blaming people for the decline of Western Civ, I'd like to >call a big put-down on John Lennon, Jerry Garcia, The Hollies, The Rolling >Stones and Lou Reed for glorifying/endorsing drug use. Yeah, its all their fault, evil bastards aren't they .Just think, no one would have ever have tried drugs if these guys hadn't been around.At least Lennon got his just deserts and Garcia snuffed it early on.I can't quite see the Hollies connection though, but you are probably right, the swine probably put in subliminal messages . You also forgot the Byrds,Grace Slick and Rolf Harris (as in "tie me Kangaroo down sport"which really is glorifying heroin use. This is the translation: -Its aussie slang for shooting up heroin ,to Tie- use of a leather belt to pump up a vein - -Kangaroo-slang for the big H, down- the feeling an addict gets when they shoot up.) Of course , drugs being illegal and therefore the obscene profits that the mafia, the CIA and organised crime in general could make from selling them had nothing at all to do with it.Neither did all those GI's in Nam bringing back their habits to both the states and Australia, or the mass use of amphetamines by truckers, the use of psychedelics by the government in experiments in the early 60's or the general over proscribing of tranquilisers and other drugs by doctors to the general population , therefore getting people used to an instant fix to their problems by dropping a pill.Ok , rock stars did not help, but I think their influence was just a small part of the whole picture.Lets face it, prohibition has been such a great success story this century, if it hadn't been for those Rock stars it would have worked! Hangings too good for those evil rockers, I think I'll go burn my Garcia poster in shame. dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:21:31 -0700 From: Mark Gloster Subject: bernin down the house... I'll cut to the chase. We rounded up some of the usual suspects and had delicious mexi chow. We went down to the Kuumbwa to see the sold out Dan Bern/Utah Phillips show. We were on the verge of a ticket catastrophe, but some fegs didn't show up and they cut loose with some tickets right before the show, so Chris F. didn't just drive for three hours to eat a few chips and take a walk on the beach. I had no idea what to expect from Utah Phillips, having only heard sparce bits of his, and losing their associations thereafter. I wasn't sure if we'd get the somewhat disconnected Dan Bern or the thundering omnipresent one, but I really did hope he'd play something I would recognize- it didn't have to be a Beatles tune. Steve and Maya saved us seats in the front row (I was two feet from Dan Bern's microphone, straight ahead). You may remember Steve from such positive reviews of the efforts of _Monday's Lunch_ and _Glass Flesh!_ from the Good Times in Santa Cruz, well, he and I have become pals since. Anyway, Dan was playing solo. He is very powerful and dynamic alone, and any tension of having band members fall asleep or futz around while Dan's talking is removed. He was really "on" that night. He really leaned into his hardest material. He played songs we recognized. He did a funny talkin' blues about breaking into Springsteen's house. He had a lot of energy. We laughed repeatedly. He earned standing ovations. It was a really great show. He introduced Utah Phillips and said "He's gonna fuck you up." Utah Phillips sings good ol' union songs, hobo stuff, socialist stuff, and is a complete delight. He told lots of stories. We thought of Eddie many times. Think of a socialist Santa Clause with an attitude and congestive heart disease, and you'd have something like Utah Phillips. It was a great evening and when it was over I thanked Dan Bern for coming back to Santa Cruz. He shook my hand. I guess some of him rubbed off on me- I came home and wrote fourteen songs! Just kidding. Steve invited Donne and I to go down to the studios (geez, it's an apartment complex) of KPIG (once upon a time known as KFAT) for the live on-air show with Dan and Utah. We went. I should have a tape of it soon. First a guy who played musical saw was on. It wasn't NMH. I think he would have made everybody's irritating voice list, but he played the saw well. Dan played some great stuff, including a song about his smart dog, The Facsist in Me, and a song he'd just written about kids bringing guns to school. There was not a dry eye in the house for that last one. They had to go to a station break after it, because the emcee couldn't talk. He traded off songs with Utah, and they showed great chemistry together. I managed to grab Dan's attention after he played. I respectfully asked him if I could give him something. He laughed like, "why would I not want you to give me something?" I handed him the _Monday's Lunch_ CD and warned him that it wasn't folk. He said, "I really like listening to noisy stuff, is it?" I told him it was, and he said he would listen to it on the way to SF. He thanked me profusely, looked me in the eye and shook my hand again. It was really a great weekend. I keep thinking that Dan and Robyn should do some shows together. I hope you are all enjoying the Kraftwerk unplugged John Cage/Little River Band tribute CD's I sent you. Happies, - -Markg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:42:41 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: Revelling in evil >Oh. Sorry about that. I hadn't noticed. Well actually, it did rather appear that way, given the way you kept doggedly pointing out to us all what the MPAA was for, as if we were rank idiots :). > Is this in terms of social theory and conjecture Being as it was an offshoot of discussions concerning artistic responsibility, yes, I think that would be a valid way to describe the conversation. > or would anyone be interested in studying the people >who set up the mpaa ? It's more relevant to the way we live in 1998 to discuss Will Hayes and the Legion of Decency? Will Hayes's obsessive crusade for "moralism" is related to the oddity/non-oddity of say, "Evil Dead" being rated R and "Henry and June" being rated NC-17, how? There is a tenuous historical connection but that's about it. >I never said such a thing. >She doesn't represent feminists. >She is, however, representative of "people whose views I severely >dislike" much in the same way that were I to need to mention in passing a >musician whose music I dislike, I might mention The Osmonds. It came up in the context of your dismissing concerns about the "patriarchy" in relation to fred/Ted's analysis of typical slasher films, and why he finds the attitudes he sees reflected therein disturbing enough that he made a (not-entirely-serious, IMO) comment about revolution and walls. Given that one is given to wondering where Andrea Dworkin's name bubbled up from. Since he was actually talking about persons whose output (we're not talking art here anymore :)) seems to have no little effect, and Andrea Dworkin is not someone whose writings have nearly as large a cultural impact. Especially given the fact that she is generally more villified than read among that small percentage of the culture who even are familiar with her. There is some difference of degree here. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:49:14 -0600 From: hal brandt Subject: Re: list catchup... > See I was a mere 16 when I first saw the Dead. > I was indeed EVERYWHERE. Then I saw X at the Fab > Mab and a month later caught the Germs at the Masque. > And I still feel saved. I lived this story in reverse. I liked X, Bauhaus, Oingo Boingo, Tom Waits, Kate Bush, Beatles/Lennon, Primus, Nirvana, fIREHOSE, Sonic Youth, RH, Zappa, Beefheart, etc. and had utter contempt for the Dead. I was literally DRAGGED to see Grateful Dead for the first time live in '92 and was blown away. I didn't, however, feel that I had to abandon my previous musical tastes to incorporate the Dead. All my CD's happily co-mingle on my shelves and in my ears. /hal ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:49:37 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: zombified > also sprach Ben: > >He headed a band, called "Argent" funny enough, after the Zombies. I've > >never heard them. > On Sat, 11 Jul 1998, frater tot wrote: > you may have heard their big hit "hold your head up", noted for its > excessive organ solo. That was one of those records which you couldn't get away from for at least 14 years, very much like "All Right Now" and "John I'm Only Dancing". I believe that in order to get your 1970s student DJ diploma you had to satisfy a competent panel of judges that you could play stylish air-guitar (and air-keyboards) at the appropriate moments in each of these records. Unbelievably, Argent had another hit with a song called 'God gave rock'n'roll to you' which was a note for note rip-off of Billy Preston's 'That's the way God planned it'. Former Adam Faith sideman Russ Ballard (he of the shades and inane grin) played guitar in Argent. There was also some link-up with Unit 4+2 - I think they had the same rhythm section or something. [That's enough Argent trivia - Ed.] - - Mike Godwin PS In a big financial case reported today, the judge said "It appears to me - and I must be careful of Dr Spooner here - that this is a dispute between warring bankers". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:57:42 -0600 From: hal brandt Subject: latest celeb demise > > The other important news of the week is that William Preston, aka Carl > "Oldy" Olsen on "Late Night with Conan O'Brien," died Friday in New York > after a brief illness. He was 76. Preston was a great story, as any of > the "Late Night" staff who had the chance to know him will tell you. A > native of Pennsylvania and lifelong Shakespeare buff, Preston got into > acting at the age of 50 when did his first show, Moliere's "The Imaginary > Invalid," with the Drama Guild in Philadelphia. He subsequently appeared > in more than 170 plays and numerous professional and student films, among > them "The Fisher King," "Arthur," "Taxi Driver," "The Crucible" and > "Waterworld," about which one critic said he was the best thing in the > movie. He did a dozen movies in the 1990s alone. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:10:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Dede Davis Subject: In defense of Watt - ---"Chaney, Dolph L" wrote: > > Haven't heard much of the Geraldine Fibbers, but guitarist Nels Cline is > THE good thing about Mike Watt's _Ball-Hog Or Tugboat_ album. His > playing is revelatory amidst the muck. DOH!!!! Had to un-lurk for this one! Couldn't sit by and watch Watt get slammed. That album is great, and the second one, "Contemplating the Engine Room", is *amazing*!!!!! Watt is truly one of music's innovators, kinda like part punk, part jazz, part progressive. Some of his songs are funny, some are thought-provoking. And, irrelevantly, the guy is as nice as they come. Whenever anyone asks *me* about Watt, I tell them he's God with a bass. == Dede "Out of boredom/ I decided/ I'd get with it"--MCC _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:21:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Dede Davis Subject: Re: zombified - ---M R Godwin wrote: >.... > [That's enough Argent trivia - Ed.] Have ya got room for one more? I've got the original London cast recording of Lloyd-Weber's "Phantom..." and Rod Argent was one of the keyboard players! == Dede "Out of boredom/ I decided/ I'd get with it"--MCC _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:37:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Revelling in evil On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Terrence M Marks wrote: > > That's what we get when we violate > > Mom and Dad's/the Church's sanctions against premarital sex and, for > > the girls, devaluing their father-owned bride-price. > Or, mayhaps, it's a good way to put nudity into a slasher movie and > justify it. well, exactly. nudity is justified if the nude people die. violence is justified if the victims were sinful. a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 19:05:43 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Blunstone albums The two Blunstone tracks I mentioned turn out to come from early 70s albums called 'One year' and 'Ennismore'. Personnel details (from http://www.roadkill.com/APP/discography/Blunstone/One.Year.html) suggest that these albums involve virtually all of the Zombies / Argent crew. Essential listening for Zombies fans! - Mike G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:16:52 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: sharkboy utility belt i really love robyn's live interpretation of I Got A Message. but have you noticed that he really hasn't been playing it much lately? now, i'd definitely agree that I'm Only You, and maybe Trilobite and Beautiful Girl pop up in his setlists a little too frequently. but i think what it boils down to is that he *really* loves to play certain songs: Trains, Queen of Eyes, Balloon Man, I Am Not Me/You And Oblivion (which are almost always paired up), The Devil's Coachman all spring to mind. he has a main core of songs that play a prominent role in every tour, and then seems to dust a few off for each individual tour -- Victorian Squid being the latest example. so these songs, plus whatever new songs he's working on, some "old faves," and a cover or two make up a typical robyn setlist. certainly much different from dan bern who doesn't even use setlists, and who reportedly writes a new song every day. yeah, i'd *rather* robyn did it like that. he's certainly got enough material to draw on. but, if that's not the way he works, then that's life. i'm sure he doesn't put together similar setlists just to "annoy" all us weenies who must hear every show he's ever done in his life. i'm sure i'd disagree with you, eb. but i'd be interested in hearing some details. why, "knowingly"? not to beat a dead horse or anything --i'm the last person you'd ever expect to rail on an on and on and on and on and on and on and on about the evils of capitalism, after all. but, by merely participating in the system, we are all perpetrators of evil, whether we like it or not, *and* whether we're aware of it or not. i once went through and taped every utterance of the word, "fuck," in Repo Man. it was beautiful! i used to put that on mix tapes quite frequently, but now i've lost the original tape, and i'm too lazy to go through and do it again. bummer. maybe i'll do that for The Big Lebowski when it comes out on laserdisc, and tack it on as filler on all my tape trades from then on out. what are, "toad things"? do you mean Toad Of Toad Hall? in other words, maybe the greatest literary character of all -- excepting possibly master samwise, i guess. (probably exhibiting his horrible grateful dead ignorance here. by the way, i agree with ms. pottymouth usa (aka natalie jane jacobs -- sorry lj, but it's what-have-you-done-for-me-lately here on the feglist) that those dancing fucking bears are about as evil as you could get. well, at least, about as annoying as you could get.) don't forget the new york banks that do the laundering, and the chemical manufacturers, without whose product none of them would ever see the light of day. especially cigarettes, of course, but that's another story. "What the fuck! There's a house burning in the middle of I-5!" --Capuchin ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:28:25 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: Quail is the Law, Quail under Will Hey, you guys, you are forgetting to talk about one important thing: ME! What about ME?!?! Where do *I* factor in to all of this?!?! WHAT ABOUT ME?!?!?!?! lj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:48:48 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: My New Feg-Symbols Page In response to my off-hand comment last week that I could put a bunch of vector-graphic files of Robyn-related symbols (i.e., Thoth, the Fly, the Glass Fish logo, etc.) up on my crazy, wacky, far-out web site, Randi wrote: >John, do you have any idea how much some people {myself included} would >kill {sorry dave and luther ;} to have that stuff in their possession? In fact, I had no idea whatsoever. Y'know, I was wondering what was causing that sharp increase in violent behavior among feg-list subscribers. Apparently it *wasn't* the wide availability of "Henry, Portrait of a Serial Killer" in video stores at all, it was simply my failure to make these vector-graphic symbol files available! So please, STOP THE MADNESS! There are now four separate ZIP files (each containing a different format - AI, EMF, CMX, and WMF) that you can download from: http://www.alternatech.net/jh3/robyn The J-card page has also moved here, so please update any links you may have. And please don't hurt Dave or Luther, they're very nice people and they haven't done anything. (At least, not that I *know* of...) Someday I might put these in a font. Or I might not... Yours truly, John H. Hedges, asking the musical question "Why listen to the Byrds, Dylan, Flying Burritos and the Band when there's 'Zamfir, Master of the Pan Flute', 'Sing Along With Barney', and 'Perry Como Sings the King Family's Greatest Hits'?" ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #271 *******************************