From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #270 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, July 14 1998 Volume 07 : Number 270 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: The Three O'Clock [kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander)] geraldine f [kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander)] Re: Quail is the Law, Quail under Will [Christopher Gross ] Re: Fibbers [Eb ] Re: Quail is the Law, Quail under Will [amadain ] Re: Re: Re: Re: Ra: Ra: Roo: Roo: Badumpadumbadump [james.dignan@stonebo] Re: Revelling in evil [fred is ted ] Re: What color is your wind? [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Re: Re: Re: Re: Ra: Ra: Roo: Roo: Badumpadumbadump [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Re: What color is your wind? [Ross Overbury ] sorry, bones, genuine Robyn content (shock! Film at eleven!) [james.digna] Rhapsody in blue [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: Rhapsody in blue [Eb ] Re: Re: Re: Re: Ra: Ra: Roo: Roo: Badumpadumbadump [james.dignan@stonebow] Re: Revelling in evil [Terrence M Marks ] the Fibbers and "post-plop" [Zloduska ] Re: list catchup... [Ethyl Ketone ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:34:39 -0400 From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: Re: The Three O'Clock >> Is "Sixteen Tambourines" by The Three O'Clock worth $13? >> >i'm solidly in the 'good album' camp on 'arrive' and i think sixteen >tambourines was even better. 'specially if you get the version that had >their first e.p. tacked on, with a spiffin' version of 'lucifer sam.' i'd >say that'd be worth a twenny spot. ditto on _sixteen tambourines_. syrupy psychedelic pop perfection. my copy has the _baroque hoedown_ ep included; but no 'lucifer sam'. :( don't really know any of their later stuff. i've read good things about it though. KEN "sounds just like a nursery rhyme" THE KENSTER ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:34:30 -0400 From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: geraldine f >> Fibbers fans are obscure and well-hidden. Perhaps there may be one >>in the >>woodwork of this list that would come out for me? I haven't heard them >>mentioned yet. > >I can't say I qualify as a "big fan", but I do own "Lost Somewhere >Between The Earth And My Home", and enjoy it frequently. i can. carla's voice sends shivers down my spine. and i like that kind of thing. _lost somewhere between the earth and my home_ is emotional, intense, and sometimes abrasive, and maybe even annoying; but well worth the journey. everything has a country folk flavor to it. for _butch_ they got a new guitarist that turned things up a bit. so it rocks out a lot more. i saw them live last year and they put on a great show. KEN "everything i say is a stupid lie" THE KENSTER ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:30:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Quail is the Law, Quail under Will On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, amadain wrote (re: the Golden Dawn): > It was based on a document which turned out to have been forged. Which > members even to this day insist was not forged, although it was actually a > fairly clumsy forgery as they go. A pursuit of metaphysics based on made-up > teachings? Huh? Why do that when there are real documents to read, and > plenty of? What "real documents"? I'm no expert, but I have yet to encounter any metaphysical tradition that was based on reliable documentary evidence. > >I say, if you want to swing, swing. Ago around justifying it however the > >hell you want to, because I for one do not have a monoploy on swinging, > >justifications, or even liberation. > > Exactly. Do it. Do it for yourself and your own happiness, satisfaction, > what have you. I trust that you, Quail, do not feel that you need to make > up a bullshit philosophy about how you are liberating the human race by so > doing. Did Crowley ever claim that? > Sounds to me as if anyone who has anything negative to say about Aleister > Crowley is in your view anti all occult explorations and generally > simple-minded. Did Quailby ever claim that? But please don't get the impression that I'm taking the Quail's side wholeheartedly. No one who writes "morales" for "mores" will get my unqualified support.... - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:53:20 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: Revelling in evil >Y'all must be real dern proud of the forward thinking Texas Board Of >Education for voting to sell all their shares of Disney stock because of >a few scenes in "Pulp Fiction." Yep well, it's something that had a profound effect on me, considering that I haven't lived there on a regular basis since I was 14. Love on ya, Susan the more I tell about myself, the more people seem to want to bait me :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:02:53 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Fibbers Kenned: >>I can't say I qualify as a "big fan", but I do own "Lost Somewhere >>Between The Earth And My Home", and enjoy it frequently. > > i can. carla's voice sends shivers down my spine. and i like that >kind of thing. _lost somewhere between the earth and my home_ is >emotional, intense, and sometimes abrasive, and maybe even annoying; but >well worth the journey. everything has a country folk flavor to it. for >_butch_ they got a new guitarist that turned things up a bit. so it rocks >out a lot more. i saw them live last year and they put on a great show. Well, most Fegs probably remember that Butch was my favorite album of last year, so I won't praise it redundantly. I do like the debut better, even though that disc only ranked around #4 or #5 with me (there was stiffer competition that year, overall). And yeah, the band is fantastic live, especially when they had the astoundingly sexy Jessy Greene on violin. ;) In case anyone doesn't know, the Fibbers were dropped from Virgin (grrrr) and now are either on hiatus or split up, depending upon whom you ask. Carla and Nels Cline are playing together as "Scarnela," and are planning an album. They already have a nifty cover of "Hot Pants" on the recent James Brown tribute album on Zero Hour. And yes, Carla & the Fibbers DEFINITELY know how to play the "annoying" card. They laughed and laughed. That's where it's at, Eb now dismissing (oops, I'm a bit backlogged): Flight 16, Mister Jones, Wes Cunningham, Jocelyn Montgomery (sorry, Woj), Plastilina Mosh, Red Telephone, Zoobombs, 12Rods, Suncatcher, Adventures in Stereo, Flick, Far Too Jones, Daze, Mitchell Froom, Nick Heyward, Ridel High and the *worst* record I've heard this year, Orgy's Candyass ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:11:01 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: Quail is the Law, Quail under Will >What "real documents"? I'm no expert, but I have yet to encounter any >metaphysical tradition that was based on reliable documentary evidence. True. But with the Bible or the Talmud, to name two examples (the Mahabharata is another), some parts of these are very old indeed, and based on long-standing oral and folk traditions of a given culture or cultures. Which is a little different from some schmo writing up a document and claiming that it was written by a 14th century monk and based on heretofore undiscovered medieval metaphysical teachings, which were actually just the ideas of one W.A. Westcott, who didn't actually have the guts to just say "here, I thought of some cool metaphysical stuff for us to play with". I mean, it's hard to say that one thing is of necessity more valid than another, when you come right down to it. But I do feel that if you made something up yourself (even if it was cobbled together from other sources, as this was), that's very different from beliefs that evolved over time. And the insistence to this day that that document really was written by a 14th century monk is laughable. >Did Crowley ever claim that? He did have the idea that he was freeing up humanity generally, by example, and that this was a path to enlightenment, yes. Though of course I do believe that he thought that not everyone should be doing this, just higher beings like himself :). >> Sounds to me as if anyone who has anything negative to say about Aleister >> Crowley is in your view anti all occult explorations and generally >> simple-minded. > >Did Quailby ever claim that? No, he just wrote a long post about how it wasn't all like Marilyn Manson or whatever, as if implying that I was some kind of knee-jerk Tipper Gore, when actually I know quite a bit about Crowley himself, among others, and wasn't basing any of my opinions on horror at the antics of Ozzie Osbourne. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 19:53:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: The Three O'Clock On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Ken Ostrander wrote: > don't really know any of their later stuff. i've read good things about it > though. Vermillion is one of the most disposable things ever committed to plastic. having heard it first, my ears immediately zero in on the derivative aspects of whatever other Quercio i hear, so i can't tell you how it compares. i can only warn you. aaron ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:24:50 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ra: Ra: Roo: Roo: Badumpadumbadump Mosgiel, Mosgiel, Mosgiel. Land of plenty, pearl of the plains. Staunch little Mosgiel. where in one mighty vista you can see the glory that is Swampy Summit and the rolling plain along the Taieri. Why, do you ask, do people not use this as an international volleyball venue? The answer is sweet, plain, and low in calories. Volleyball uses less fish per capita than any other major African nation, even those for whom the words "fluoride toothpaste" is an anathema. Can it be possible that, as the twentieth century strides towards its unstoppable conclusion, and mighty glaciers careen from Greenlandian fiords accompanied only by the moans of startled polar bears, that somewhere in this vast cosmos the likes of you, me, and our rectangular black-with-white-dotted friends can find that one, that special, that unique, intrinsic spark that will lift us higher, higher into our own personal telephone kiosks of sanity? I say telephone kiosk with some certainty, for is that not what life is? You can see the graffiti, you can feel the ripped wires where once hung a method of communication, you can smell the uses to which this booth of communication has been occasionally, albeit illegally, put, late in those long nights of the psyche wherein all things, even those with little plastic knobs that always fall off after one use, are sacrosanct. It may be that even the little plastic knobs have some purpose, although that may only be known to the mind of the one, unnkowable being who first designed the thing for whatever Korean company mass produces them. We are all like those little plastic bits, or the flanges on the agitators from top-loading washing machines. Coito ergo sum, as Descartes' ruder brother might have said. I look forward with joy and hope, and look back with wistful noistalgia and a smile on my face. These are the raw materials with which we must work. Our good thoughts for one another, or skills and our intelligence, and those little plastic knobs. I pray that we use them wisely, rather than frittering them idly away by arguing about the Grateful Dead. James ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:20:44 -0700 (PDT) From: fred is ted Subject: Re: Revelling in evil - ---amadain wrote: > I personally would rather see loving sex than a guy getting decapitated by> a surfboard. Why is the former often X and the latter R or PG? Why is SEX ALWAYS BAD and a guy getting shot up by a nailgun merely harmless > entertainment? Those were two examples deliberately chosen from a "Lethal> Weapon" movie I was once dragged >to, incidentally. This issue has always intrigued me, and I don't have a clear answer in my head, but I'll forge on anyhowze... Doesn't it relate to social control? Basically, any instance of violence on the screen reinforces to the audience that they live in a world where their actions have potentially drastic consequences. A message of sexual freedom and happiness has no such controlling message--rather the opposite, I'd guess. The "Sexual Revolution" and all... Also note that in our culture, violence is the domain of male power, while sexuality is embodied by women. Teen slasher movies really boil out the whole story for me. The boy and/or, more pointedly, the girl, are brutally killed shortly after engaging in petting/coitus etc. That's what we get when we violate Mom and Dad's/the Church's sanctions against premarital sex and, for the girls, devaluing their father-owned bride-price. When the revolution comes, I'll be handing out maps to the homes of the people who made these movies. There's probably been a feminist critique that puts all this better. Something diff... Smashing Pumpkns = J.G. Ballard content? "In you I feel so dirty, In you I crash cars"--"Ava Adore" ref. to "Crash"? My M2 faves of the week: David Garva--"Discoball World" Fatboy Slim--"The Rockafeller Skank" Smashing Pumkins--"Ava Adore" Billy Corgan in this vid looks like the perfect cross b/w Schreck/Nosferatu and Coogan/Uncle Fester :) Ted "yeah, we get high on music." Kim Deal _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:34:28 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: What color is your wind? Colors of music: A person of perfect pitch described his ability to hear the colorations of tone. He told me that regardless of the instrument played, he could hear the subtle differences in the inert color of the tone. He also told me that if I really worked on creating distinctions in the colorations of tones that I heard, I could learn perfect pitch. I've been aware of this possibility for years. I even bought one of the Burge courses. An aside, his voice bugs me and he yaps a lot (trying to give me value, no doubt) on the course to the degree that I haven't been able to cultivate my potential here. The course I bought is also on CASSETTE, a media violently at odds with the concept of perfect pitch. A word to the wise for musicians: if you can hear the colorations of individual tones, work on it. I can only imagine how beneficial this would be for playing and composition. It would also help you with relative pitch. The last thing about perfect pitch: do not seize it with anal retentiveness, this will only cause you to hate music, because most popular music is not plug-and-play compliant with perfect pitch. I really think I'll get those colors down one of these days. - -Markg everybody knows that D minor is the saddest key, as Nigel points out in another of my favorite movies. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:36:15 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ra: Ra: Roo: Roo: Badumpadumbadump I'm sorry if this was already covered in one of the alt.fan.lydialunch newsgroup, but I'm going to try to address the issues presented by that man standing well underneath and to the side of Santa Cruz.... Wow, man. That's heeeaavvvyy, or it is at very least my brother. I should quit my job and move to 'zeeeland to follow you around and camp out and not take baths and listen to every word you say and spin and dance around in tie dye and wear a tight headband which can be tightened at the perfect moment when you utter the all important Fjordian dances with wolves and tie dyed bears which fritter their time in washing machines with asyncronous kioskian telephony. It is for them therefore unto which we decend into a maelstrom of cacophanous mellifluvia, with all of the nuances and shades that lie dormant in dewfallen moments that exist between zed and those that reside in the following chapters of "The Wistful Nostalgic's Dictionary of the Hostel of Neutral Lactosian Dead or Deaf or Dumb or Something." Uhmmm, unless, my email program scrambled your email message. In that case, please disregard this message, or attribute it to Jon Anderson. I hope all is clear now. James Dignan rocks, really, but sometimes I need a translator. Has anybody seen Bob Dylan in a speedo recently? Sorry, just makin' conversation. - -Barkshoy a misunderstood creature of the deep i: what do mountains do, Jon? jon: They come out of the sky and they stand there. i: Those lyrics changed my life, like wow, man. Thank you. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 98 21:45:25 EDT From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: What color is your wind? Mark said: > > I've been aware of this possibility for years. I even > bought one of the Burge courses. Don't listen to Mark, kids -- he's a Pod! > A word to the wise for musicians: if you can hear the > colorations of individual tones, work on it. If you're good with sounds and hopeless with visual art, this can be a very *dangerous* idea. - -- Ross (wearing a shirt with thin yellow stripes and purple paisley tie) Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:30:52 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: sorry, bones, genuine Robyn content (shock! Film at eleven!) firstly, sorry... something I meant to send to the guillemot racers' mailing list ("Mosgiel...") ended up on Fegmaniax yesterday. I hope no-one noticed. >I once had the opportunity to see Robyn in short sleeves once (Carole >swore she saw a flash of armpit), but never short pants. He's English. Shorts are left to soccer players. Remember they don't even wear shorts in the national sport, cricket! Some of us ex-pats look distinctly out of place when transplanted to shorts-wearing nations... >Actually, we could take an idea from the tourists and each time you meet another Feg just hook up one of those "baby-leashes" that people drag their kids along with on to the Feg. By the end of the show you should all be connected by bungee cords. pheh... I'm not sure I like the idea of being tied up in strange cords by a bunch of weird fegs. then again... heard a song from the Bragg/Wilco/Guthrie album today. Very promising. I shall have to investigate further >Now, what I really wanted to say... does anyone remember a show (it's on >tape) from somewhere in california i think, where RH explains the first >verse of "chinese bones"? It had to do with Romeo masturbating by a lake, >as Juliet shoots up heroin with a snake. Please let me know if you've heard >this, so i know i didn't just dream it. "Stand back, Dennis"'s version has a rambling intro that alludes to this - the man is 'doing everything possible with a mirror' and the woman is 'involved with a snake', but 'I can't say more than that because this is going out on radio - use your imagination' James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:51:14 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Rhapsody in blue >>dark green's a nice energetic colour, but a lot of Robyn's songs are in D, >>which ISTR is bright blue > >How do other people see keys, or are Robyn and I the only ones? I see it >like this... > >A/Ab/Am = blue[...] well, with me, the following are the USUAL colours (different inversions sometimes change the colours, as to the relationships between chords, suspended notes, instrumental timbres (oboes give everything a slightly gritty brown feel, for instance), etc, etc, etc. The following relate to standard chords played unbarred on a guitar (E round to F) or in the register just above middle C and in tonic-to-tonic (1-3-5-8) fingering on a piano for the others. E is orange, A yellow, D bright blue (I think these may be similar to Robyn's 'colourscheme') G is a deep red-brown, C is a dark, purply red, F is blue-green, Bb is purple, Eb is yellowgreen, Ab is pale yellow, C# is pinkish red, F# is bright creamy white, B is dark blue. Minor chords all also have coloiurs, 7ths often have a purplish tinge, and Fm6 is sepia. FWIW. James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 20:13:01 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Rhapsody in blue >Eb is yellowgreen Don't I get a say in this matter? Dave (behind the organ, sideburns, 6'1") had a problem. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:11:58 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ra: Ra: Roo: Roo: Badumpadumbadump >Wow, man. That's heeeaavvvyy, or it is at very least my brother.{...} erm. yeah... what have I started? eek! >i: what do mountains do, Jon? >jon: They come out of the sky and they stand there. >i: Those lyrics changed my life, like wow, man. Thank you. i: why can't I always see them standing there? donovan: First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is i: aah... it all makes sense now... James ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 23:13:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Revelling in evil > This issue has always intrigued me, and I don't have a clear answer in > my head, but I'll forge on anyhowze... I had thought that I had given a decent answer, but maybe it didn't get through. (The answer was: an "R" rating doesn't mean "people shouldn't see it". It means "Kids shouldn't see it". When the MPAA was founded, and possibly now, people felt that sexual content was more harmful to children than violent content.) > Teen slasher movies really boil out the whole story for me. The boy > and/or, more pointedly, the girl, are brutally killed shortly after > engaging in petting/coitus etc. That's what we get when we violate > Mom and Dad's/the Church's sanctions against premarital sex and, for > the girls, devaluing their father-owned bride-price. When the > revolution comes, I'll be handing out maps to the homes of the people > who made these movies. Or, mayhaps, it's a good way to put nudity into a slasher movie and justify it. I don't recall anyone ever slipping the phrase "father-owned bride-price" into a conversation here before. It strikes me as a phrase that carries a fair deal of hostility towards "the patriarchy". And, y'know, I may not like the opinions of some people, but come the revolution, you won't find me directing the barbarians towards Andrea Dworkin. And while we're blaming people for the decline of Western Civ, I'd like to call a big put-down on John Lennon, Jerry Garcia, The Hollies, The Rolling Stones and Lou Reed for glorifying/endorsing drug use. > There's probably been a feminist critique that puts all this better. Yes, I'm sure there is. > "yeah, we get high on music." Kim Deal I thought it was heroin for her. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 22:29:39 -0500 From: Zloduska Subject: the Fibbers and "post-plop" greetings. That's wonderful other fans exist. Too bad I couldn't find some in person, other than at shows. First of all, thank you all for responding to my post. >Kenned: >>>I can't say I qualify as a "big fan", but I do own "Lost Somewhere >>>Between The Earth And My Home", and enjoy it frequently. >> >> i can. carla's voice sends shivers down my spine. and i like that >>kind of thing. _lost somewhere between the earth and my home_ is >>emotional, intense, and sometimes abrasive, and maybe even annoying; but >>well worth the journey. everything has a country folk flavor to it. for >>_butch_ they got a new guitarist that turned things up a bit. so it rocks >>out a lot more. i saw them live last year and they put on a great show. Yes, Nels Cline is a really cool 'freak-out' guitarist and fun to watch play. I'm sure those of you who has seen them live recall his gadgets; the raygun, the egg beater, toothbrush, etc.... I guess he's partly responsible for the "rocking out" of it. About the "country flavor" which draws the "cowpunk" label..hmm..well I love the way the Fibbers blend styles so well. They are one of the few groups with a country influnce I can tolerate. But I have quite a penchant for the violin and it is songs like 'Arrow To My Drunken Eye' on Butch that I really dig. "Toybox" is my favorite. They have an "orchestrated" sound that I love them for. I could go on for centuries about the different songs and styles, and my opinion on them, so I'll stop now. Eb replied: >Well, most Fegs probably remember that Butch was my favorite album of last >year, so I won't praise it redundantly. I do like the debut better, even >though that disc only ranked around #4 or #5 with me (there was stiffer >competition that year, overall). And yeah, the band is fantastic live, >especially when they had the astoundingly sexy Jessy Greene on violin. ;) > I never saw Jessy play, but Carla told me she didn't get along with the band really well and so split. I think she said something about her not being ambitious enough, or maybe the other way around. Anyhow, I know that Leyna [the new violinist] is a very nice and sweet person, and one of the things I love about the Fibbers is how well they get along together now. And they are so nice it's sickening. >In case anyone doesn't know, the Fibbers were dropped from Virgin (grrrr) >and now are either on hiatus or split up, depending upon whom you ask. I don't think they are split up at all. (You might as well tell me the world is coming to an end, Eb...hehe) I'm hoping they will tour again this fall/winter. But I didn't know they were dropped from their label...details? >Carla and Nels Cline are playing together as "Scarnela," and are planning >an album. They already have a nifty cover of "Hot Pants" on the recent >James Brown tribute album on Zero Hour. > I heard that the Scarnela debut would be released this fall. I haven't had a chance to buy the James Brown album yet though. Wasn't their CAN cover on Butch great??! >And yes, Carla & the Fibbers DEFINITELY know how to play the "annoying" card. I disagree, but I think it is only because "annoying" is a personal opinion. Songs like 'Lilybelle' and 'Butch' I think are outright beautiful. Not abrasive to my ears at all.. Well, maybe the stuff that is a bit too country-fied....heh. Okay, it's like this folks. I consider myself a psuedo-promoter for the Fibbers. I preach their gospel far and wide. I make tons of tapes to distribute to those who are derprived of hearing them. I spread their legend; I tell people to go to shows, and such. I wanted to announce that if anyone on this list wants a mix tape of Fibbers stuff, just email me and I'll send one out as soon as a can, for nothing in exchange. Just let me know what you want. I was considering putting up a Fibbers webpage since there aren't many out there. Not sure if I have the time though. I'm stalking them, you see. heh. ;-) ~kjs (ps. Eb, about your "annoying band list" I dig a lot of those bands, and btw, Sonic Youth is my all-time favorite) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 22:47:21 -0700 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: Re: list catchup... At 2.33 PM -0700 7/13/98, Mark_Gloster@3com.com wrote: >Okay, I'm way too far behind to catchup. Geez, the >bottle's nearly empty and the last remains are clotted. >Let's see what I can do.... > Yeah, I feel that way. Get home from a day at work or two days on the road and just reading the list is amazing, let alone responding to the myriad of topics, opinions, flames and witticisms that fly about daily. Sheesh. It's great, really. >All: Fegmaniax rule. You are really great people. Please >play nice with the living, the dead, and the undead. > All this Dead stuff reminds me of a story (a short story). And in my dotage, I'm gonna tell it. See I was a mere 16 when I first saw the Dead. One of those "Day on the Green" events in Santa Barbara back in the land of long ago or somewhere in the earlier 70s. A friend baked pot brownies and we got higher and higher while Warren Zevon got booed off the stage (I'm not kidding) by a serious Dead crowd. Then the woman sitting on the blanket next to me took off her blouse. I looked at her, mature and worldly that she was (probably all of 25), topless with a pierced nose (yes, that was VERY radical in those days) and I thought I'd actually stumbled into heaven. All my high school extracurricular activities went out the window. My grades went down. My pot consumtion went up. I barely graduated. And I told my father I wanted to pierce my nose. I can still hear his response: "What? And disfigure your face for life?" I spent the next few errant years making all the new years gigs in Oakland and never missing them within 500 miles. I peaked at exactly the moment Jerry started to space out with Donna doing whatever she did (not sure I really even can say what it was). I took bets on the opening song. I was indeed EVERYWHERE. Then I saw X at the Fab Mab and a month later caught the Germs at the Masque. And I still feel saved. > >Shorts: it can be a very bad thing for those of us of >british lineage to wear short pants in the sun. It is >blinding. This is a practical reason. About Robyn, his >personna is one of a person who is very protected. >Body language, clothing, word-use, etc. all suggest >that he's very selectively holding something back from >us. It adds mystique, and probably allows him to fele >more secure. Dan Bern bares all in all ways. Robyn >doesn't. They're both great. > Actually, this is one thing I feel strongly about. He is a very private man. And I, for one, am not the kind of fan who wants to know the sordid details of his private life. Skinny legs and all. I had dinner with him and a few others (and Cynthia) in SF once, '89 I think, and he was actually embarressed to find out we were big fans of his. It seemed to make him very uncomfortable. > > >I liked City of Lost Children, but Delicatessen was >a better movie imho. Yes, it had its flaws. So did >Repo Man, but that's my favorite movie that I can >think of right now, well, except for that "Dinosaur" >video. > Agreed. Delicatessan is a treat. 2 weeks ago saw a double bill of both and back to back, Delicatessan stands out as the better crafted and engaging film with solid production values and a sense of irony. COLC is stunning to view, no doubt about it. But is there a "there" there? How about Jan Svankmeyers "Faust". That's a pretty remarkable film. And highly recommended, along with his "Alice". > Oh, and isn't it ironic that Repo Man gets mentioned? The scene where the kid holds up the liquor store and is dying and tells Emilio Estevez that it's society's fault and Emilio says somehting like how it's bullshit and he's just a bored white kid from the suburbs has been playing in my head ever since the thread on suburban blues cames up... Nothing on music and colors (I don't sing, I draw) and that Crowley thing - I'm staying the hell away from that. Take my eyes, I've used them, Carrie n.p.: Goran Bregovic - soundtrack from "Underground" - a film by Emir Kustarica. "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** M.E.Ketone/C.Galbraith meketone@ix.netcom.com cgalbraith@psygnosis.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #270 *******************************