From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #259 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, July 9 1998 Volume 07 : Number 259 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Crop Circles Are Go! [Eb ] Re: Prophets... [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Re: Crop Circles Are Go! [Aaron Mandel ] I dunno 'bout the t'shirt.... [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] Re: NZ, MST3K, and RH [fred is ted ] Re: NZ, MST3K, and RH [amadain ] Re: Crop Circles Are Go! [amadain ] message for Randi, only tangential RH content [Carole Reichstein ] Re: T-shirts [Capuchin ] Re: Crop Circles Are Go! [nicastr@idt.net (Ben)] Re: Crop Circles Are Go! [Eb ] Re: my t-shirt snobbery [Tom Clark ] Groops Maisie like[s/d] [KarmaFuzzz@aol.com] Ray Manzarek indeed! No RH, you guys. [Carole Reichstein ] back on the list... [jeffery vaska ] Re: Crop Circles Are Go! [nicastr@idt.net (Ben)] Roast legs are Go! [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] John McLaughlin. [Terrence M Marks ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:22:13 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Crop Circles Are Go! Tool Time Tews manifesto'd: >the review says that robyn "shacked up" in olympia for a year to record >the k 7". surely this is inaccurate? i thought he'd done that record >in calvin's basement, really quickly, kind of, "on his way through." Speaking of Calvin, if anyone happens to know where there's a decent picture of him on the Web, let me know. I've looked a bit, and come up empty. > >maybe it's just semantics, but i hate annoying music. and i like most >of the artists on your list, eb. do you mean annoying to grownups? or >tipper gore? why would somebody want to listen to something that >annoyed them? Well, this is exactly my point -- many music fans DO like to listen to things that annoy them (including me). That's part of rock 'n' roll. The irritation, the scratching of an itch, the agitation -- rock 'n' roll unsettles you, puts you on edge. That's a central component of its appeal. Rock 'n' roll fans don't want to listen to music that relaxes and sedates them. Now, try to explain this to a Boyz II Men fan, and they'll say just what Eddie did: "Why would somebody want to listen to something that annoys them?" And really, there's no good explanation you can offer in response -- either you have the ANNOY-ME chromosome, or you don't. As I said, there are different kinds of "annoyance." I find No Doubt just plain annoying. Don't like 'em, don't wanna hear 'em. But on the other hand, one of the band's prime selling points is Gwen's voice, which while bad-annoying to me, is good-annoying to others. It gives the band character and a distinct identity. Without her voice, they'd be just another generic ska band. It's easy to think of other groups whose vocalists lend the sound an "annoying" quality which provides the hook. Think Perry Farrell. Think Axl Rose. Think Frank Black. Think Ozzy Osborne. Jello Biafra. Mark E. Smith. John Lydon. Or maybe the all-time best example, Robert Plant. The grating qualities of these voices are what puts the sound over the top, and wins folks over, gets 'em out of their chairs. Why does Robert Plant's solo stuff not sell well? Easy. He's physically unable to do that "annoying" thing now -- instead, he can only croon along in his middle register. The edge is gone. His voice doesn't pick your scabs anymore. Tough luck, Bob. And of course, the annoyance factor doesn't apply just to voices. I mean, look at hardcore punk, for one thing. That's about nothing but trying to be "good-annoying." An insistent guitar lick, a bludgeoning beat, vicious lyrics, whatever. Speaking of voices, there is nothing irritating about Rufus Wainwright and the annoyance factor doesn't apply to him at all. Which is probably why he's not classified as an "alternative" artist. But I just got this promotional Rufus interview disc, and BOY, his speaking voice was a surprise. VERY lispy and effeminate. Would set off almost anyone's "gay-dar." Not that there's anything wrong with that.... Of course, for further illustration of the difference between good-annoying and bad-annoying, see the Grateful Dead. Which is worth going to bed early for. Eb, who would like Robyn Hitchcock better if HE hadn't lost his ability to be annoying (in his case, it's a question of guitar style and tempo, not voice...wish he had a little more Can of Bees left in him today) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:34:49 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: Prophets... Sorry, I apparently only sent this to DOTchris. I think I'm just agreeing with most posters. Happies. Hope I don't set anyone on fire with this one. - -Markg >> >I may open a can of worms here, but could the profits either: a) go to >> >smoe.org for maintaining us or b) to a charity? (I don't know what Raymond >> >died of, but if it was cancer or something.....) > >I don't think Bayard has stopped laughing yet. Can you hear him >screaming "Profits!?!?! Ha Har Har!!," as he falls over boxes of unsold >Glass Fleshes! Let's just say as an investor of the _Glass Flesh!_ project, thanks to continuous enthusiasm for the project, help from Woj and Bayard, and lots of FegWordofMouth, I've just about recouped my financial outlay to date. I still have to pay Robyn's publishing royalties, which will come to over a grand. Of course the amount of hard work that Bayard and I put in won't be remunerated by the CD sales, though we are still pretty confident that over time we won't just be letting more water into a sinking boat by doing this. Realistically, the best we can hope for is to break even, and not have to always scrape out our life savings to share each installment of an labor of extreme love. We still have loads of them and they're on sale if y'all are interested. >My thoughts would be that prices would cover costs, and hopefully that. >Much more of a DIY thing than a temporary business organization. I'm with you, Chris. I don't think you can expect a drop more. I also suggest keeping the printing runs to a minimum, which will cause the people who actually do the work from also sitting on inventories forever. >.chris (who likes the Ebmaniax idea only if it has yellow strips) Yea, think how much they'll be worth when Eb sells out! I'll buy two. They'll call me a starfarker too. Smileage, - -Markg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:48:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Crop Circles Are Go! On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, Eb wrote: > Speaking of voices, there is nothing irritating about Rufus Wainwright > and the annoyance factor doesn't apply to him at all. Which is probably > why he's not classified as an "alternative" artist. But I just got this > promotional Rufus interview disc, and BOY, his speaking voice was a > surprise. VERY lispy and effeminate. Would set off almost anyone's > "gay-dar." Not that there's anything wrong with that.... hm... i had only heard "April Fools" before i got that interview disc (well, there could be two -- mine is from "Morning Becomes Eclectic") and his speaking voice was not a surprise to me. there's a real campy twinge to his vocals, though i don't think it's an intentional part of the music. if we're talking about the same promo, Eb, are those other songs representative? "April Fools" is likable but without the big arrangements i couldn't stand more than a verse or two. a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 21:50:29 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: I dunno 'bout the t'shirt.... On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 09:59:30 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: >Here goes: >On the back: Robyn's art from The Man Who Invented Himself single >(right?). It's cropped in a circle with words surrounding the art that >say "Where angels wander" on top and "I'll wander, too" on bottom. I >noted that quite a few people were displeased with the chosen typeface for >those words, so I've opted for a more Robynly text. It should look very >much like Robyn's handwriting as used on the back of Eye and so many >setlists. This is the only part of the artwork that isn't in my hand and >is what really keeps me from hauling all the stuff down to the printer. > >On the front: Left breast crest of Thoth in black. >http://www.fegmania.org/ under that, much smaller. > >To justify all of that: It's a list shirt, but gives the url because >that's the most informative place to learn about the list. It doesn't >directly mention Robyn anywhere, but it does contain obviously >recognizable Robyn content for those in the know. Well, I have to raise a flag here. why NOT mention Robyn? We should at least put the Man's name on it, so casual fans (people who remember "Madonna of the Wasps", etc.) can go "Oh, neat T-shirt. I remember that guy."- and then we can go into the speil of "Fegmania never died" and turn them onto him (or on in the dark, whatever). Why treat it like a secret society? If we are gonna wear the man's artwork, might as well be walking billboards for him too. God knows he needs the record sales.... -luther P.S. Why not get them, if we can, in light green? It seems somehow appropriate. (No dark green though- it would be bad in the sun.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:41:32 -0700 (PDT) From: fred is ted Subject: Re: NZ, MST3K, and RH - ---Miles Goosens wrote: > Luther said: > >>Joel Hodgson--*funny* > >>Mike Nelson--*not* funny (as host) > > > > Joel was a lot better, wasn't he? > > Mike has moments, but NONE as funny as Joel. > > Oooh, to me, this is the classic "older is better >automatically" syndrome. So thaaat's what this is... I THOUGHT we were expressing our subjective OPINIONS, but apparently we are the victims of a syndrome. So when I thought M.A.S.H. went down hill due to preachiness/departure of Larry Gelbart, I was really just in a nostalgia spiral. Same goes for post-John K. Ren and Stimpy. And I simply must nip out now and buy all those recent Rolling Stones albums that I had passed off, due to my illness, as mediocrities. Better call the DSM crew, Doc, they'll want to consider the "classic 'older is better automatically' syndrome" for the DSM-IV update. Ok, enough lead-cinch sarcasm, Ted. My point? Its great fun to disagree w/others in matters of taste, but please don't reduce the opinions of others to an arbitrarily imposed stereotype. Its not a nice way to play, IMO. BTW, in future, you might want to clear all neo-logo-differential diagnosti-phraseologies with Susan--she gets a royalty for 'em when employed on the Feglist (drat, there goes a nickel to Chicago). > I also think that if you take a critical eye to the >Joel years, well, it's like the myth of the SNL >"original cast" -- they live in legend, but their > actual shows were just as spotty and had as many dead spots as the seasons> that followed (though SNL has been past redemption since 1992 or so, but I >think you get the point)... Re SNL: Bet you liked the Joe Piscopo, Charlie Rocket, Mary Gross, Gary Kroger, Brad Hall and Robin Duke era. Ptooie. Natalie nicely summed up my thoughts about what happened to MST3K when Mike stepped in--weak japing, lame bits written for sixth graders. Going on what Chris W. said, though, I'll take a look at a new episode. How very gracious and open-minded of me! :) ======================================================= > "Gettin' piss-drunk, givin' the players a hard time, throwin' a chicken bone at the cop - that's what >baseball is all about." >-- a lout from Cleveland two rows in front of me at > a Tigers game, waxing rhapsodic about how Indians >games use to be > Miles Goosens > outdoorminer@mindspring.com Love your signature and email username, Mr. Wire fan, (I hope)! Grumpy Ted, throwin' a bone where it is due, IMO (as always). de gustibus non est disputandum "yeah, we get high on music." Kim Deal _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 18:32:47 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: NZ, MST3K, and RH >So thaaat's what this is... I THOUGHT we were expressing our >subjective OPINIONS, but apparently we are the victims of a syndrome. Well, if you noticed the above comment, Miles said "TO ME (capitalization mine, not Miles's) this is the classic 'older is better' syndrome". I think that makes a bit of a difference too, since, we're talking subjectivity and all, Mr. Lead-Cinch-Sarcasm-Man :). >BTW, in future, you might want to clear all neo-logo-differential >diagnosti-phraseologies with Susan--she gets a royalty for 'em when >employed on the Feglist (drat, there goes a nickel to Chicago). I don't get any royalties, in fact, I see all neologism-making-efforts as a direct threat to my position as Queen of Bad Neologisms, so consider yourself warned. Also, they don't truly count IMO unless they contain one or more hyphens. Neologism building is an art :). >Re SNL: Bet you liked the Joe Piscopo, Charlie Rocket, Mary Gross, >Gary Kroger, Brad Hall and Robin Duke era. Ptooie. Now there you go, throwing his generalizations right back at him. Is THAT playing nice? :) Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 18:48:42 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: Crop Circles Are Go! >Well, this is exactly my point -- many music fans DO like to listen to >things that annoy them (including me). That's part of rock 'n' roll. The >irritation, the scratching of an itch, the agitation -- rock 'n' roll >unsettles you, puts you on edge. That's a central component of its appeal. I agree. I think (maybe I'm being presumptuous) that Monsieur Tews probably does too. I think the issue here may be that there wasn't a distinct line drawn between "good annoying" and "bad annoying". There's a difference between the way Jarvis Cocker irritates and the way Mariah Carey irritates. I LIKE the voice and style of El Jarvissimo, it's original and distinctive, and it may not be "good annoying" to everyone but hey, works for me- it's inherently annoying, I suppose, in the sense that it's designed to get under your skin, but I'M not annoyed by it. In contrast to Ms. Carey, who is irritating to me simply through her very lack of said originality, and who I just can't stand. Love on ya, Susan n.p. Carl Perkins, "Original Sun Greatest Hits"; awesome stuff, and also obviously designed to get under your skin in a way some might find annoying :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:24:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: message for Randi, only tangential RH content Randi--I've sent you private e-mail through Tim Fuller's address. If you haven't received it, just e-mail me privately. ..hey. Any follow up on Robyn's legs? How about Tim Keegan's? :) Sorry. Eddie saw him without his shirt once, but it isn't as exciting a story as you'd think (my apologies Eddie! I couldn't resist!). Carole ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:45:17 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Crop Circles Are Go! >There's a difference between the way Jarvis Cocker irritates and the way >Mariah Carey irritates. I LIKE the voice and style of El Jarvissimo, it's >original and distinctive, and it may not be "good annoying" to everyone but >hey, works for me- it's inherently annoying, I suppose, in the sense that >it's designed to get under your skin, but I'M not annoyed by it. Sure, Jarvis definitely has the annoying thing going for him. I just wish his melodies were as distinctive as his "persona" and voice. What's more, when the Happenings are turned on by clamoring crowds at college concerts (Universities of Illinois, Miami, North Carolina, San Francisco, Pittsburgh) and in clubs (The Flamingo, Las Vegas), they rip through a raft of imitations that defies the imagination. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:55:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: T-shirts On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, JH3 wrote: > Of course I don't want to steal anyone's thunder or whatever - a > silk-screened shirt is obviously going to be much better quality-wise than > an iron-on. I would almost certainly buy one... It's just that .chris > mentioned my initials (but hey, it's "3", not "#") so I wanted to clear that > up in case anyone was curious. As Bayard said, better quality is better quality (to paraphrase). So I think the way we're doing it will work fine as long as we get the numbers right. > BTW: I have some vector-graphic files of the Thoth symbol and a couple of > other Robynesque pictograms lying around if anybody wants them. I could put > them on my own web site, of course. (Maybe I should just do that.) Yeah, I did a bezier curve illustration of Thoth that isn't too bad. I've got post script files you can see if you want. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:07:41 -0500 From: nicastr@idt.net (Ben) Subject: Re: Crop Circles Are Go! >wins folks over, gets 'em out of their chairs. Why does Robert Plant's solo >stuff not sell well? Easy. He's physically unable to do that "annoying" >thing now -- instead, he can only croon along in his middle register. The >edge is gone. His voice doesn't pick your scabs anymore. Tough luck, Bob. I think Robert Plant had a generally unsuccessful solo career because (a) most of his songs were not memorable and (b) he made some really bad genre-hopping mistakes. I don't think his voice had much to do with it. >Eb, who would like Robyn Hitchcock better if HE hadn't lost his ability to >be annoying (in his case, it's a question of guitar style and tempo, not >voice...wish he had a little more Can of Bees left in him today) I think there's a tendency among music listeners/critics to automatically regard something that's angular or dissonant as being more "artistic". Such as Robyn's Soft Boys vs. Robyn's current solo acoustic stuff. But he's never really lost the flair for the weird or intense... "Trilobite", "I Am Not Me", "As Lemons Chop", etc. all songs from his last pair of releases. Even in the jangly guitar days of "Queen Elvis" and "Globe of Frogs" you had stuff like "The Devil's Coachman" and "Sleeping With Your Devil Mask". He may have toned down this kind of stuff, but his songwriting IMO continues to get better. The setting, either dissonant Soft Boys era or his current style, is just the package. P.S. Yes, I saw the latest attempt by Eb to stir up some confrontation via the Dead. So pathetic that I'm really starting to feel kinda sorry for the guy.... :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:44:29 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Crop Circles Are Go! Ben paddled into the deep end again: >I think there's a tendency among music listeners/critics to automatically >regard something that's angular or dissonant as being more "artistic". Such >as Robyn's Soft Boys vs. Robyn's current solo acoustic stuff. The general fading of critical support for Robyn has little to do with being dissonant vs. acoustic. It's more a question of him repeating himself too much, and reverting to traditional folk-song structures which look backward instead of forward. He's just not current anymore, and he used to be. Element of Light was a critics' favorite, and that's not "angular" or "dissonant." And I don't really need to list all the acoustic singer-songwriters who are current critics' favorites, do I? Ani DeFranco (for instance) can make acoustic songs which are topical and cutting-edge. Hitchcock just hasn't kept up. Now of course, I personally like RH endlessly better than Ani. But I'm talking about consensus here, not my individual views. You know, everyone here thinks I'm a RH naysayer, but in the overall scheme of things, I'm the dead opposite. Kindly realize this. >he's never really lost the flair for the weird or intense... "Trilobite", >"I Am >Not Me", "As Lemons Chop", etc. all songs from his last pair of releases. >Even in the jangly guitar days of "Queen Elvis" and "Globe of Frogs" you >had stuff like "The Devil's Coachman" and "Sleeping With Your Devil Mask". Hell, Celine Dion is "intense." Not really the same thing. And I don't see any of the above songs having that positive "annoying" quality which I'm speaking of. Being unusual isn't the same as being annoying. Being unusual doesn't tap into our aggressive side, and get our adrenaline flowing. There's no physical catharsis inherent to "weird" music. >P.S. Yes, I saw the latest attempt by Eb to stir up some confrontation via >the Dead. So pathetic that I'm really starting to feel kinda sorry for the >guy.... :) But was it as pathetic as your recurring attempts to bait me? That's what I was hoping for, you see. Which also means they have excellent hearing. I Dreamed I Saw Ebman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 98 17:51:50 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: my t-shirt snobbery On 7/7/98 6:17 PM, mr. pointy wrote: >there was talk of a list shirt a year or so back (right around the roasting >of gene, as i recall). our very own tom clark actually has a t-shirt design >which you can view on the web. alas, i can't find the url right now, but i >thought it was something like . tom? http://u2.netgate.net/~tclark/robyn/shirtback.jpg - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 21:02:33 EDT From: KarmaFuzzz@aol.com Subject: Groops Maisie like[s/d] In a message dated 98-07-08 09:31:31 EDT, gnat@umich.edu writes: > >For those of you who are interested... > >Maisie's fave band is "Nine Inch Nails." - well - back in October of 1994. > "I don't know much about the Cure... my daughter likes the Cure, but > parents shouldn't listen to the same music their kids listen to because > it's *creepy*." also, he apparently attended Lollapalooza in SF in 1992 (where he was interviewed on Live 105), because Maisie wanted to see Ministry. and I recall when he guest hosted in 1993 he introduced a world premiere Depeche Mode video by saying they were one of his daughter's favorite bands at least at some point in the past as well. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:59:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: Ray Manzarek indeed! No RH, you guys. (catching up on old posts. Warning-poetry content! Well, not mine anyway) Sharkboy wrote: > > Is anyone else listening to Ray Manzerak on NPR's "Fresh Air" with Terry > Gross? Yes! I heard this in my car while waiting for a taco supreme at Taco Hell. Gee, I wish I could be *this* entertaining AND play the piano too. I saw Ray Manzarek a few years ago, when he played piano to accompany Michael McClure's poetry reading. They were both opening for Jim Carroll, who is a genius in my book (he's also very nice when you get his autograph too). Anyway. I was extremely impressed by the gregarious, funny, and talented Mr. Manzarek, but disappointed by the old Beat poet/hanger-on Michael McClure, who pretentiously recited his poetry in this wierd sing-songy way into a microphone. Relieved when Jim Carroll took the stage in his Converse sneakers, and no pretensions whatsoever. But Mr. Manzarek could've stayed. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 21:40:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Subject: Clandestine Tshirts >> I am *all* for us having our own shirts, but I would feel kind of creepy >> wearing them at a show. Not only would I feel like a Stepford Feg (--and >I mentioned to JH# (I think) that I get beat-up enough at school for >being a computer geek, why take it to the streets with the ole >internerd blazed on my chest or back. Some thing more clandestine is in >order. More clandestine, hmmmm..... how about a Cone, with Carl Palmers head sitting on top of it, and across Carl's ample forehead will read "Claudine Longet was right", all of which is surrounded by an artistic border of Thoths. On the back it would say, "Stop Stalking Me.... unless you were influenced in anyway by Syd Barrett - The Evil Aliester Crowley White Mans Blues Tour 1998". Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:42:16 -0700 (PDT) From: jeffery vaska Subject: back on the list... hi fegz, yup, i'm back. i've travelled nearly 75,000 in only three and half months. i can't take it anymore... did robyn do a seattle show lately? - i haven't even had time to call somebody and find out. ok, better split. hi again and all that - hoping great things are coming down the line...jeffery vaska _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 22:16:37 -0500 From: nicastr@idt.net (Ben) Subject: Re: Crop Circles Are Go! Eb said, in a flat, ironic tone: >The general fading of critical support for Robyn has little to do with >being dissonant vs. acoustic. It's more a question of him repeating himself >too much, and reverting to traditional folk-song structures which look >backward instead of forward. He's just not current anymore, and he used to >be. I don't think Robyn has been repeating himself, does anyone else here think so? I mean, look at "Moss Elixir" against the album that preceded it, "Respect". Those are totally different. And just because Robyn plays solo acoustic music doesn't mean he is a "folk singer". You could count the number of traditional songs he currently plays on one hand. >Element of Light was a critics' favorite, and that's not "angular" or >"dissonant." And I don't really need to list all the acoustic >singer-songwriters who are current critics' favorites, do I? Ani DeFranco >(for instance) can make acoustic songs which are topical and cutting-edge. >Hitchcock just hasn't kept up. One reason I like RH is that he hasn't "kept up". In fact, "Devil's Radio" his recent stab at a social topic, didn't work out too well IMO. Robyn can do his own thing and do it very well. >>he's never really lost the flair for the weird or intense... "Trilobite", >>"I Am >>Not Me", "As Lemons Chop", etc. all songs from his last pair of releases. >>Even in the jangly guitar days of "Queen Elvis" and "Globe of Frogs" you >>had stuff like "The Devil's Coachman" and "Sleeping With Your Devil Mask". > >Hell, Celine Dion is "intense." Not really the same thing. And I don't see >any of the above songs having that positive "annoying" quality which I'm >speaking of. Being unusual isn't the same as being annoying. Being unusual >doesn't tap into our aggressive side, and get our adrenaline flowing. >There's no physical catharsis inherent to "weird" music. OK, I don't really follow the "annoying music" discussion, but I would like to say I don't find "Wading Through A Ventilator" annoying at all.... >But was it as pathetic as your recurring attempts to bait me? That's what I >was hoping for, you see. > >Which also means they have excellent hearing. > >I Dreamed I Saw Ebman Oh... that was one litle joke, actually directed at those of us who toil away at tape decks, spinning off copies of Robyn's shows. Not meant as a goof on you not knowing "Antwoman". Actually, I probably wouldn't recognise half of his new unreleased songs if I heard them at a show. As for my recurring attempts to bait you, what are you talking about? Maybe you are getting a little paranoid. :) - -King of all Indignant Deadheads ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:19:25 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Roast legs are Go! >(somebody --i wanna say lsdiamond, but i'm not sure-- included in their >top ten movies something called Thundrbirds Are Go! never seen it. had >never heard of it. if it's anything like what it sounds it might be >something like --viz., jet airplanes and the kwazy antics of their >drivers-- i'd probably hate it. but, damn! i love that title. i think >about it all the time. i think it's the exclamation point that really >does it. you really don't see very many exclamation points in movie >titles.) do you seriously mean to tell me that there are people out there who do not know Thunderbirds??? Does the name Jeff Tracy mean nothing to you??? Or Lady Penelope and Parker ("yush, milaidy!")??? Did they never reach America??? Oh you poor deprived people, suffering through the likes of HR Pufnstuf when you could have had International Rescue... > >We all know Robyn is quite the fashion hound (C'mon, you don't really >think he buys those Paul Smith shirts at thrift stores like he claims, >do >you?), but I realized that he does tend to cover himself up. remember: he was born with trousers on >>First, I don't remember Gene getting roasted, but I'd love to see highlights. sorry, Linden Arden stole them. Linden means lime tree, not to be confused with Rowan, which means mountain ash. Number 23 - the Larch James (who once wrote a garage-punk song called "Thunderbirds are Go!") James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 04:37:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: John McLaughlin. A few days ago, when I a pizza deliveryman noticed my electric bass guitar and asked what sort of music I played. I said that it was late 60's California psychedelic, rather like Spirit or the Electric Prunes (if anyone who has a copy of GF has a better description, I'd really dig hearing it.) He nodded in recognition, said I was rather young to have heard of those bands, and suggested that I check out John McLaughlin (sp?) I've decided to do so. To avoid repeating what happened when I rushed out to buy a Teardrop Explodes album and came home with Wilder, what albums of his do you-all reccomend? Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #259 *******************************