From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #255 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, July 7 1998 Volume 07 : Number 255 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Mostly Maisie [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Re: Crazy Jane [Ross Overbury ] Re: The lack of any real content in this post astounds even me, quite frankly [amadain ] Re: The lack of any real content in this post astounds even me, quite frankly and going downhill rabidly [] romanticizing the blues or evil... [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Hmmmm....... [griffith ] Fwd: Hmmmm....... ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Hmmmm....... [Bayard ] Dr. Laura [Terrence M Marks ] Re: romanticizing the blues or evil... [Eb ] Re: romanticizing the blues or evil... [Eb ] oops [Eb ] Dr. Laura [Lobsterman ] Re: Hmmmm....... [Terrence M Marks ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:31:07 +0100 (BST) From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: Mostly Maisie >>>>> "Susan" == amadain writes: >> Well, Maisie is a better name for your daughter than "Lucifer >> Sam" or "Baby Lemonade"... Susan> I think Effervescing Elephant would be a lovely name for a Susan> child. Especially if the child was especially obese and flatulent. (Sorry, just read 'The Beastly Baby' again...) Stewart - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:58:50 -0400 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: Crazy Jane >No way! I had no idea the kid on Element of Light was (is) Robyn's >daughter Maisie. I always thought it was some random little boy that he'd >found near some crab shop or some such thing. I always figured it was a girl because she's wearing numerous bangles and bracelets and things. But I didn't think she was a little kid - in fact, she looks rather like my friend Lorraine, who introduced me to Robyn with a hurled Furry Green Atom Bowl. (I used to annoy Lorraine by saying to her, "The rain in Spain falls mainly on Lorraine." Then she would kick my ass. But that's another story.) I thought Maisie was named for the Henry James novel, "What Maisie Knew." >And on Saturday are Six Cents and Natalie, Hey! Stop talking about me! >I think he still writes for MST3K. I have seen clips of him doing standup >from the early eighties, some funny stuff.... Joel is off in Hollywood doing script doctoring and such-like. I have a tape of a stand-up routine he did on SNL, pre-MST3K, which was mildly amusing (though he was awfully cute in it). Re. Joel vs. Mike, I'd say they're about equal. I do get nostalgic for Joel, though - and Frank, and Trace Beaulieu (Dr. Forrester, voice of Crow). *sigh* The host segments ain't what they used to be, either. Pearl Forrester is grindingly unfunny. >Now, this really bugs me. All respect to your name, Lorelei, but *dang >it*! What is it with 'Lorelei' (and 'Gloria')? Why has *no one* written >a song about Danielle?? Hey, nobody writes songs about Natalie, either - just about my middle name. Frustrating. >Big problem: no one will lend Martin Phillips any money, apparently; his >history with the Chills was so volatile that banks don't trust him. Aww... :( I'd lend him money, if I had any. n. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 98 9:58:43 EDT From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: Crazy Jane > > Hey, nobody writes songs about Natalie, either - just about my middle name. > Frustrating. Yeah, Natalie the day When you say goodbye Yeah, Natalie the day When you make me cry You say you wanna leave You know it's a lie 'Cause Natalie the day When I die - --- Somebody stop me! - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 11:46:25 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: The lack of any real content in this post astounds even me, quite frankly >She sounds spiffy. If she had delusions of godhood, she'd be exactly >like Oprah. Oprah's not anywhere -near- this lady. She probably has a call-in show because she's so bitchy and arrogant no one else will talk to her. OK, I'll get off this now. >a song about Danielle?? (Actually, I lie. Recently, I was watching MTV >Europe late at night, and I *did* hear a hiphop track which mentioned I guess because it's a long name. Short names tend to make it into songs more often I would think because they're easier to fit into a line, and songs that end with a sound that's extremely versatile as far as rhyming, which I guess explains all the songs about women with names that end in - -na. Well, that's what I came up with when my mom once grumpily enquired "what is it with songs about people named Donna, you'd think it was the most common name in the universe?". Who can truly say? Most Susan songs I like, although they're usually variants and not the full name. If, however, you see me somewhere looking a bit sleepy and say "wake up little susie" exactly as if you're the first person who ever thought of that joke, I will paste you one. There's something rather NICE about not having songs with your name in them, now that I think of it. Besides which, would you really want a soppy Buckinghams song with your name in it ("Suuuuusan/Looks like I'm loooosin'" AAAAAAARGGGH!) ??? >me. Did you guys know that I can 'take nine inches down my throat'? Of >what, we can only speculate...) Wonderful. I am so sorry to hear that that is the only Danielle song you have yet heard. I don't know if we want to make this a list-wide effort or not, but I personally will try to find some better ones for you if you like :). >We bow in your presence. :) Why thank you. I will do my best to continue to live up to this title, but it should be no problem as I seem to come up with strange neologisms on a more or less daily basis, the thousands of words in the English language apparently not being adequate for the things I wish to describe :). >Alex told me that Indian grocery stores are where you find Marmite in >America. Yes, and various kinds of English tea (well you can find those in some fancy grocery stores as well), strange "vitamin drinks", English jam, etc. They are wonderful to visit but I wouldn't do all my shopping there, as they tend to be I dunno, sort of combination specialty stores for homesick emigres/places to buy spices unique to Indian cooking rather than full grocery stores, and why live on canned curry, rice, and marmite if you don't absolutely have to. >there is such an establishment in Baton Rouge, where I will be >permanently ensconced in a little over a month... There are lots in Chicago, but Chicago has a large Indian population, in fact, a whole area of town which is full of Indian restaurants, markets, Hindu-language video and record stores, etc. and so forth. I am not so sure this would be true of Baton Rouge, LA, but you never know I suppose. Anyone who lives near it care to comment? My general experience of Southern towns/cities is that the emigre enclaves tend (speaking generally) to be Korean or Chinese if they're there at all. I think maybe the (speaking generally again) conservatism of such areas is attractive? In any event, that's been my personal observation but I'm happy to stand corrected. Besides which, most places look homogenous to me compared to Chicago, anyway. I mostly absolutely love this aspect of living here (the Polish grocery store down the way from me is like going to Europe for a bit without the jetlag :)) except on those occasions when paranoid me hears everyone talking in a foreign language and assumes they're saying nasty things about me :). >How cute, people... Eb thinks he actually *has* a bright side. Could you >post that link to the site about *graves* again? ;) Hey! That site kicks ass! :) But hey you know, I also read the obituary section. Anyway, Eb does have a bright side. Look at how spiffy his Claudine page looks now :). >Boooooingggg ding ding ding dong, Ring a ding ding to you too! Susan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 12:40:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Fuller Subject: from randi - Maisie, GD & one last comment on the darkside Okay - I will try to go in order here - just read the last feg-dig - and there are some questions about which I do have "official" {meaning out of Robyn's mouth and meeting Maisie} information. Yes *Susan* - that kid on the front of the "Glass Fish - Moist 3 CD" version of "Element Of Light" - the kid with the crab in Robyn's face :} - is indeed Maisie - at around age nine or ten. *Marcy* - I too would have thought Maisie was born in 1974 - it makes soooooooooooo much sense when you listen to the lyrics - but, sadly, no Robyn/Maisie connection there. For those of you who are interested... Maisie's fave band is "Nine Inch Nails." - well - back in October of 1994. Maisie will go with her dad on tour when it doesn't interfere with school and when it's a country/city she hasn't been too. Maisie was born in 1976...I don't know what else to say except - trust me - - it came from the source. * * * * * * * * on to GD - and luther's comments - which for some reason made me upset - it's probably just the drugs or being in pain - but I felt such a shot of anger - and as I write this - I feel upset and teary...just more honesty from me... ;} I originally asked: Does anyone know if GD was recorded during Robyn's divorce? > luther responded by........well........making his point: > 1} does anyone know for sure? > 2} is it any of our business? > I mean, should we worry about this? > Will it help us enjoy the music anymore if we know WHO it might be > about and the circumstances. Well, luther, it is probably not any of our business, on the other hand - Robyn is just a regular guy - he could be a graphic artist instead of a musician and people in the office might know if he was going through a divorce, that he had a kid, and that he took time off work because he was depressed. I will state solely for me and me only: yes, it does make a difference to me knowing the background of Robyn songs. He has done so much to help me since I first walked up to him in 1992 and said "septicemia doesn't always win." {I've had septicemia 4 times} When I woke up from surgery #3 in 1993 - there was a promo copy of "Respect" waiting for me - sent by Robyn himself. He and I have gotten into various discussions over the years... {I was firmly berated and given much cranberry juice {hi Carole :} when I snuck out of the hospital, {surgery #5 - surgery #6 coming up in a week} and came to see his show in 1994 - when Ron Sexsmith opened {sorry - I like Ron 'cause he's nice - but I do not enjoy watching him perform - and I'd never by his album,} ...and I've interviewed Robyn for the CBC - the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation - and asked questions about his sisters, how his mom was doing {after his dad's death}, how he writes songs... These too are personal questions - and I like knowing the answers to them because it __does__ help *me* enjoy the music more - I am one who will buy an album, read _all_ the lyrics, and then put the music on. So, knowing some background about the artist does help me enjoy the music more, and {I am trying hard not to make a general statement here,} and I always thought people bought music mags and looked up their fave bands on the web to find out more about the artist or band. Unfortunately, these people are in the public eye, and if you choose that type of profession, there are consequences - like people wanting to know more about you and your life, how you write songs, what kind of guitars you use; and someone like me - a writer - would want to know the story behind the lyrics. The reason I asked the GD question is because it's the only one I've never asked RH...and I thought maybe someone on the list knew. But that's cool - I'll just ask Robyn myself :} * * * * * * * * on to writing and the dark side > dave said: > What I meant was in relation to Randi saying that > "the only way to be a *great* writer was to explore one's dark side." > By that I imagined she meant the angst ridden exploration of the inner > being; which is sort of a romanticised view of the writer having to > suffer for their art **** First off - thank you *Susan* and *Marcy* for understanding the original comment the way I meant it... "I think the only way to be a good writer is to explore one's dark side" Again, this statement applies to *me* and *me* only. I'm sorry that it didn't come across that way...but I've posted a few times on the subject and I think {hope} I've made my intentions clearer. Perhaps I should have said a more interesting writer - thus a more interesting read. I like writing that is soulful...that taps into the communal experience - and I find that the writers of the books I most enjoy are open to using their own experiences and are aware of the darker side of themselves. Could J.G. Ballard be the writer he is had he not been lost as a child in the Second World War? I couldn't even begin to imagine how different my writing would be if I didn't have Crohn's. But Dave...really...that whole angst ridden exploration romanticized view thing does not apply to me :} How could it...I've spent the last four years mostly in the hospital, I've had nine surgeries, I almost died twice, and the last surgery I had, I knew going in that I had a 50/50 chance of making it. And I kept that information secret - because otherwise my parents and friends and loved ones never would have let me try this experimental surgery. Oh - and the truth is that I hate the word angst, I dislike the imagery of the artist suffering for his/her art, and especially thinking of it as a romanticized view. I'm a 31 year old woman who got sick when she was eleven years old...I hold no romantic fantasies about writing, about pain and suffering, about the world, or about reality in general. I can't...I seen and been through too much...and you can't unknow something once you know it. So that's my explanation of why I didn't think your comments were accurate - at least in my situation... I mean that by accepting that I have a chronic illness - that I will continue to have abdominal pain for the rest of my life, that I will keep needing surgery for the blockages in my intestine, that 3 men have {and one still might leave} left me after I've spent 5-6 months in the hospital, and since I've had half my small bowel removed I'll never be able to have fresh fruits or vegetables again, no alcohol at all, mostly getting my nutrition from supplements like "Boost" or "Ensure," - there is no romanticized view, or angst, {which *I* always think of as a word that applies to teenagers ;} that applies to the simple statement that works for *me*... "I think the only way to be a good writer is to explore one's dark side" I will now officially change that line to - "I think the only way for me to be a good writer is to explore my dark side" * * * * * * * * You're all lucky - Tim's connection is about to time-out - so I can't write anymore :} so I'll just fade back into yesterday before tomorrow comes, Randi *what scares you most will set you free* - Robyn Hitchcock {and words I have to live by} n.p. - Scary Mary's thoughtful gift of the "Neutral Milk Hotel" albums...I love them...they are really great :} ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 12:03:57 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: from randi - evil, Robyn, Maisie, you & oblivion, and reality >> susan began with: >> I do think that all of us have the potential to do considerable evil, >> ...it is better to try to deal with your potential to be evil... > >I always figured that's what Robyn was doing when he took time off >and wrote for and with Captain Sensible - during the 'hiatus' between GD >and IODOT - trying to deal with his demons. Well, yes, sure, I think so too. I also think tho that he really just wanted to head into early retirement and "sit there and watch the river flow" rather than try again and go through THAT. Only he still had to feed himself. Hence, Sensible, who really did him a big favor although I'm sure the pleasure was also his. Some of those lyrics are rather wonderful. I'm very fond of "Brenda" m'self. >the masochistic me having to take the pain and find a way to accept >it, deal with it, and, in a sick way, to believe it is there for a reason. I can't say this if this is S/Mish or not, I haven't read it. But it sounds more like someone in the process of coming to grips with living with an abuser they can't possibly escape. That's actually probably how I would read it. >"Danielle Steele" explore her dark side - yuck - but I'd actually be >interested in knowing...and those romance writers too - Her? Maybe. I dunno. The romance writers for Harlequin and such, I've heard, write according to an outline they're given by the publishers, and basically fill in a story to suit. Strangely I think this might be good discipline for a writer. I can think of worse ways to learn a craft. Filling in an outline might well really hone one's imagination. >Having not heard __any__ new songs except "Gene Hackman" and "I Used To Love >You" and "Cheese Alarm" - courtesy of excellent Eddie Tews...I'm >wondering if RH's new stuff is keeping up on the honesty track. Well, there is also the lovely "Jewels for Sophia", also "Adoration of the City", so he seems to be doing alright :). Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 12:36:47 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: from randi - Maisie, GD & one last comment on the darkside >Yes *Susan* - that kid on the front of the "Glass Fish - Moist 3 CD" version >of "Element Of Light" - the kid with the crab in Robyn's face :} - is >indeed Maisie - at around age nine or ten. Aha! Didn't look like a child to me. I thought maybe I was just weird or my eyes were going wonky but it appears a couple other people didn't think it did either :). >Well, luther, it is probably not any of our business, on the other hand - See, I agree with you totally but I pretty much ignore the comments of that type because.....people who say that aren't even all that comprehensible to me. While I certainly am able to understand that some things are not my business, I'm afraid I don't see THAT much harm in speculating about whether or not there was a divorce going on, for example. I also think it's - -interesting- and that life influences work influences life etc., so if I'm interested in the work it seems pretty natural to also be interested in the life, which kind of interest is more of the (don't snicker Eb :)) scholarly type. I also have an emotional relationship with the work which maybe not everyone has. There are reasons this artist means more to me than some others. I'm not really interested in his personal life for ghoulish, gawking reasons, I'm interested because I care about the guy. In an odd sort of way I consider him a friend. His music was there for me in times when nothing else was. Quite frankly yes, I DO care where he's been and where he's going. Think what you like about that, it won't change much over here. >more about you and your life, how you write songs, what kind of guitars >you use; and someone like me - a writer - would want to know the story >behind the lyrics. This is true as well. I think part of the reason a lot of people are performers is that they WANT this kind of attention to a degree. They WANT people to ask their opinions on everything from apples to zippers. Witness the constant stream of celebrity airhead comments on all kinds of subjects they don't seem to know much about. Now mind, I didn't say "pelt them mercilessly with questions and go through their trash and write a book about what you found there", I said "to a degree", so don't get all upset people :). There is a degree to which people actually do want to tell their stories, or would they continue telling them in public on stage and on record or in books, for years? No one forced them onto a stage except themselves. Plenty of people write, and sing, entirely for themselves or for a small group of friends, without ever feeling a compulsion to go public with it. >romanticized view, or angst, {which *I* always think of as a word that >applies to teenagers ;} that applies to the simple statement that works >for *me*... I certainly never got the impression from anything you wrote that you were indulging in silly romanticizing of "the suffering artist in a garret" :). However, there is an extent to which mythos keeps us alive. It does help to understand, to make sense of things that are pretty non-sensible. And I think personifying the disease was the mythos that helped you to come to grips with it, if I'm not being too presumptuous in saying that. This isn't at all the same thing as "romanticizing" but it is somewhat related, I believe. The thing about romanticizing is that it's more about taking the sting out of something or more accurately, not seeing it because you're too callous/naive/young to see where the sting is. What you're engaged in is pretty damn different. And I (and most likely lots of others) salute you! Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 13:37:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: The lack of any real content in this post astounds even me, quite frankly > Wonderful. I am so sorry to hear that that is the only Danielle song you > have yet heard. I don't know if we want to make this a list-wide effort or > not, but I personally will try to find some better ones for you if you like the Hanson Brothers (i think it's Nomeansno in different clothes, but they might only be associates) did a song called "Danielle Doesn't Care About Hockey". only heard it once, though. a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:45:54 -0400 (EDT) From: MichaelHooker Subject: QUEEN ELVIS hi, i have a new copy of queen elvis still in shrink wrap. anybody who is queen elvis-ly deprived let me know. not interested in cash, but a cool trade would be nice. have fun, Mike Hooker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 12:21:14 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: The lack of any real content in this post astounds even me, quite frankly and going downhill rabidly >>We bow in your presence. :) >Why thank you. I will do my best to continue to live up to this title, but >it should be no problem as I seem to come up with strange neologisms on a >more or less daily basis, the thousands of words in the English language >apparently not being adequate for the things I wish to describe :). Yes, we are among royalty here. If I am not the Ace, King or the artist formerly known as Spot or Fluffy or Jack or Prince of..., am I not the Court Jester of Neologisms? I do it as a crutch for having an Abraham Simpsonlike memory. "A neologism (pronounced nee-AH-low-djism) is a newly invented word or term. Neologisms would seem to occur at a greater rate in cultures with rapidly changing technologies and with greater means for information dispersal. " A neology is, according to our Webster's, the use of a new word or the use of an existing word but given a new meaning. A second meaning given by Webster's for neologism is that of "a meaningless word coined by a psychotic." Maybe I don't like Webster #2 very much. Say, isn't James working in the field of Neology at Otago? Happies, - -markg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 13:09:26 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: romanticizing the blues or evil... Watch your toes all. I might be steppin' on em with my big mouth. I probably don't mean anybody on the feg list when I write: There is a really cool blues tune that Martin Simpson performs. He says it's about white guys from the suburbs who have had to deal with the intense depression of y'know, like Wham broke up or Ginger left the Spice Girls. He explains that having the blues is a far different thing from romancing them, and only an idiot would actually LOOK for the blues. I really appreciate that view. Maybe most of us did it in our mid teens to feel that we had substance. We could walk around with a pained expression on our faces as though someone had jabbed each of our internal organs with a bic pen (with carbide tip!), but most of us had nut'n to complain about relatively. An aside, it's just _funny_ for most white guys in the suburbs to do black delta blues from the 20's and 30's. It's not blues if yer jest whining.... I knew some people who were in the OTO, who worshipped a pathetic loser (Alister Crowley) because it made them feel evil and powerful. Sadly, this romantic view caused them to remove all of their happy and joyous tendancies. Though most of them outgrew the OTO, I don't think any of them that I knew came back to finding joy in life- yet. I don't really know much about the OTO, and this is just an opinion. Although, I'm pretty sure I'm a little closer to "fact" when I refer to Alister Crowley as a pathetic loser. Maybe I'm even going a little easy on him. Happies, - -Markg, just a big bag of opinions. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 13:25:11 -0700 (PDT) From: griffith Subject: Hmmmm....... I was doing some searching using AOL's Netfind, and decided to input "Robyn Hitchcock". Turns out that a Robyn A. Hitchcock lives in Southfield, Michigan. This got me thinking (finally). What is Robyn's middle name? I'm sure that someone in fegland knows. griffith np - The Bevis Frond "Son Of Walter" = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Griffith Davies hbrtv219@csun.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:35:37 -0400 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Fwd: Hmmmm....... >From: griffith >What is Robyn's middle name? Rowan. Robyn Rowan Hitchcock. Right? ++++++++ Gene Hopstetter, Jr. + Online Design Guy http://extra.newsguy.com/~genehop/ ++ All hail Brak! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:39:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Hmmmm....... > > This got me thinking (finally). What is Robyn's middle name? I'm sure > that someone in fegland knows. it's Rowan (like the tree.) someone had a copy of his birth certificate at one point... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:41:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Dr. Laura "Sluggy Freelance" has this nifty character based on Dr. Laura (Dr. Lorna. Sometimes you can't go for subtlety in a comic strip.) in addition to being one of the better unsyndicated strips. It's at http://www.sluggy.com (THe "Torg in the Dimension of Pain" arc is quite worth looking into as well.) Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 13:42:42 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: romanticizing the blues or evil... >An aside, it's just _funny_ for most white guys in the >suburbs to do black delta blues from the 20's and 30's. >It's not blues if yer jest whining.... Well, on the subject of singin' 'bout what ya know, just remember that in his early twenties, Dylan was singing old-man tunes like "Let Me Die in My Footsteps," "In My Time of Dyin'" and "See That My Grave is Kept Clean," and sounding pretty darn convincing! In the five years they have grooved together, their Daily Performance charts have been plastered with gold stars: for Hard Work, Dedication, and Playing Well With Others. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 13:43:10 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: romanticizing the blues or evil... >An aside, it's just _funny_ for most white guys in the >suburbs to do black delta blues from the 20's and 30's. >It's not blues if yer jest whining.... Well, on the subject of singin' 'bout what ya know, just remember that in his early twenties, Dylan was singing old-man tunes like "Let Me Die in My Footsteps," "In My Time of Dyin'" and "See That My Grave is Kept Clean," and sounding pretty darn convincing! In the five years they have grooved together, their Daily Performance charts have been plastered with gold stars: for Hard Work, Dedication, and Playing Well With Others. Eb np Danish teenybopper synth-pop swill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 13:49:27 -0700 From: Eb Subject: oops ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 13:56:46 -0700 From: Lobsterman Subject: Dr. Laura I just have to say my piece regarding Dr. Laura. I must admit its been two years since I've listened to her program, so if anything's changed, please tell me. I can't stand the show, I can't stand her. I make audible uncomfortable noises if I am scanning the band for a station and I hear her voice. I also can't stand Rush Limbaugh. These were both shows that at one point I listened to for entertainment. I didn't suscribe to either one's opinions or politics, but I enjoyed feeling the boil of my ire. But now, no. I cannot even tune in and listen. Sometimes at work, when there is absolutely NOTHING else I can think of to listen to, I listen to Tom Lycos (likos, likeus, whatever, i don't know how he spells it.) but his show annoys me too. Its all about money. $$$$$$$$. Follow the money. They're just there to sell advertising. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 17:01:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Hmmmm....... > This got me thinking (finally). What is Robyn's middle name? I'm sure > that someone in fegland knows. "Rowan". Now, since we're talking about Robyn's divorce, has it ever been established that he was ever married? Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #255 *******************************