From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #232 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, June 22 1998 Volume 07 : Number 232 Today's Subjects: ----------------- agh [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: Thoths, the thoths are calling me ["JH3" ] Cafe Largo shows on DAT? [Rob Gronotte ] Re: Syd.... [Ross Overbury ] re: *that* spam [tanter ] Ross' mail-o-rama! [Ross Overbury ] Re: Thoths, the thoths are calling me [Tom Clark ] option/H? [Russ Reynolds ] Re: option/H? [Tom Clark ] this program has performed an illegal operation and will have to FUCK OFF ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: *That* spam... [Viccicraig@aol.com] Re: ...And DON'T TELL ME TO CHEER UP!!! [Viccicraig@aol.com] [none] [domis@tfn.com] Re: Thoths, the thoths are calling me [Viccicraig@aol.com] Happy Bday Susan [Viccicraig@aol.com] Re: *That* spam... [amadain ] Re: More on x-mission.com [amadain ] Re: *That*... ["JH3" ] Re: *That*... [tanter ] Re: *That*... [amadain ] Online Tuneage [Tom Clark ] And if your hands were metal, that would mean something [Danielle ] *That* + Online Tuneage ["JH3" ] Online Tuneage [Bayard ] Re: Online Tuneage [Tom Clark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:14:15 -0400 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: agh >Non-consensual sic fic exposure is not my idea of a fun time. I suspect >that his ISP may feel the same way. It's appropriate for >"alt.misogynist.necrophiliac" or "alt.secondrate.stephen-king". It is not >appropriate here. Gee, being subscribed to the digest, I missed out on this wonderful piece of fiction. Gosh, what a let-down. But please don't enlighten me. I prefer to revel in my ignorance. n. now being disappointed by: Olivia Tremor Control, "Dusk at Cubist Castle" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:16:45 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Thoths, the thoths are calling me Chris wrote: >And I was actually wondering how someone would type >in a little Thoth symbol. So, anybody feel like resurrecting the Official Fegmaniax Font File Project? (Actually, I might have some spare time, if I ever finish the Unofficial XTC Animated Oranges & Lemons Cover Art Project.) Once the font is done, it'll be really easy to work on the Official Fegmaniax Tee-Shirt Project. >I think it's time for some vital sustenace... some Soylent Green >should do the trick. ;) Dammit, you've got to tell them... it's PEOPLE! Soylent Green is made out of PEOPLE! (Oops, I gave away the ending again! That's the third time this month...) John H. PS. Was Charlton Heston actually saying "You blew it up, you MANIAX" in Planet of the Apes? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:23:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Gronotte Subject: Cafe Largo shows on DAT? Did anyone record these recent shows, preferably on DAT? I know someone did the shows last year there, which I am soon getting a copy of, so I hope someone did these as well. I've just got to hear all those Dylan and Beatles covers! Got lots to trade, including two Robyn masters from last year, some other Robyn on DAT, and tons of other bands, Rob Why don't you come up and surf me sometime? --> http://www.patriot.net/users/rob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jun 98 15:54:31 EDT From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: Syd.... Miles said: > > At 12:26 AM 6/19/98 -0500, Ben wrote: > >albums. I think that they succeed in spite of Syd's mental state at the > >time. You don't really think people take joy listening to those records > >because it sounds like the singer is going off the deep end, do you? > > Yes, I do. Maybe not you in particular, but people like to watch > accidents, and they'd buy ringside seats if they could be guaranteed one. > I submit to you 9 out of 10 NASCAR highlights -- fiery crashes, not amazing > moves by the drivers. Or any FOX "World's Most Dangerous _______" special, > for that matter. > There's something more than just sheer voyerism involved here. It's true at least for me that some of the fascination with Syd's solo work is due to the fact that he's sliding into madness, but the solo work shows he's still able to express himself. The expression of his state of mind at the time is no more or less personal and no less interesting than John Lennon's primal screaming. It's a call from a world many of us would otherwise never see. I'd prefer to experience this sort of thing through art, and I wouldn't consider that experience to be just cheap thrills. Insert here a list of troubled artists who use their painful life experience as inspiration for their art or use the art as a carthartic device. I'm not educated well enough in the arts to do a good job of it. But you know it's a long list. PS: I'm not really offended or anything. I do like a good discussion, though. Was it good for you too? - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:31:06 -0400 From: tanter Subject: re: *that* spam At 12:22 PM 6/22/1998 -0400, Christopher Gross wrote: >It's sad that men not liking that shit from "Beavis" should be a vaild >cause for suprise. Sometimes I wonder how I ever wound up as part of >this sex.... Not surprised, impressed! I don't think I was surprised, although the attitude towards eating placentas did make me wonder.... ;) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 98 14:29:49 EDT From: Ross Overbury Subject: Ross' mail-o-rama! Due to configuration problems, everything I've babbled to the outside world since June 17 was backed up and has just been released by my mail server. Anybody for old threads? - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 98 11:36:06 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Thoths, the thoths are calling me On 6/22/98 11:16 AM, JH3 wrote: >PS. Was Charlton Heston actually saying "You blew it up, you MANIAX" in >Planet of the Apes? "Oh my God, I was wrong It was Earth all along Yes you finally made a monkey out of me!" - The late Troy McClure in "Stop The Planet Of The Apes, I Want To Get Off" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 98 11:33:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: option/H? >And I was actually wondering how someone would type in a little Thoth >symbol. Tom, is there someone you can talk to about making one of the option/key caps a thoth symbol? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 98 12:02:42 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: option/H? On 6/22/98 12:33 PM, Russ Reynolds wrote: >>And I was actually wondering how someone would type in a little Thoth >>symbol. > >Tom, is there someone you can talk to about making one of the option/key >caps a thoth symbol? I'll try to sneak that into the next Allegro build. Fonts are nasty little beasts. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:05:35 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: this program has performed an illegal operation and will have to FUCK OFF oh man, robyn is on a motherfuckin' beatles covering BINGE!! what if he were to play an all-beatles show friday night? the mind races... Drive My Car, Rocky Raccoon, Revolution 9 (actually, i *could* see beck doing that live), Maxwell's Silver Hammer, Yellow Submarine (by the way, that's the song i *always* request from street musicians), Mr. Kite...yikes! what fun that would be! about the two bells. i called them last night and asked if robyn might be performing there sometime this week. the girl, sounding very pissed off, said, "not likely." me, undaunted, tried, "but it *is* possible???" "nothing's planned." and she hung up. ok, is it just me, or is The Truman Show way, way WAY overrated? and i was pretty excited to see it, as i've always been a fan of cinema verite. and as for the top 100 list, if Lawrence qualifies, so, certainly, does Brazil. but where was it???? um, call me "eb north" or something. but, i've just got to plug the new robbie robertson album again. it is SPECTACULAR. to give you an idea how much i like it, let me just say that i think it's every bit as good as "you-know-what." possibly even a little better. just out of curiosity, eb...let's see, i'm going to guess that you gave IN THE AEROPLANE OVER THE SEA 17 out of 20. but what did you give CONTACT FROM THE UNDERWORLD OF REDBOY? (yow, talk about two albums that *just miss* the cut in the three-characters- or-fewer game!) i dunno. i'm always able to have quite a bit of fun with them (but then, this is coming from someone who finds The Trinity Broadcasting Network as entertaining as can possibly be. for all the wrong reasons, surely, but still...) i think my favorite is getting them to admit that if hitler had become born again on his deathbed, then he's in heaven right now; while at the same time, gandhi is in hell, never having seen the light. at least in these parts, we've always called that bible *thumping*. for what it's worth. <>> > Is anyone into POE? >> >> No, I like Laa-Laa best. >> >> Eb >> >Come on, Dipsy is obviously THE best, hands down..... BULLSHIT!!!> ha! ha! this reminds me of the time rolling stone interviewed ozzy for issue 666. this was just about the time that he'd done that ballad with lita ford, and maybe he'd just given up drinking or something, and a few other things. the interviewer said it looked like ozzy was mellowing out, turning over a new leaf. you know, implying that it was a *good* thing. ozzy replied, "BULLSHIT!" and i just 'bout laughed my ass right off of its mooring. say, if anybody happens to have a copy of rs 666 laying around (it was early fall of '93. coulda been dr. dre on the cover, maybe?) and wants to send in the exact quote, i'd appreciate it. the memory's just not what it used to be. laugh if you must, but i happen to think that goldmine is pretty damned decent. granted, OF COURSE that's what i'm gonna say about any magazine that puts robyn on its cover. but, even aside from that, i think that they do a good job of searching out non-mainstream acts, and the writing is usually very good. Egyptian Cream, from HEN OUT; and Song No. 4. the hegley slab is ok, but nothing like essential. i think that of everything not yet released onto cd, the most worthy of spending some time seeking out, and money purchasing, is LIVE AT THE PORTLAND ARMS. oh, maybe the two picture discs, but just for the artwork. and so on and so on. but i think what the quail was getting at was [oh yeah. speaking of whom. i hear from mr. david lang, that, with the help of the FOIA, he has at long last recovered the FegFest '98 Black Box from the quail's (former) back yard, and that a truthful account of those final, fateful moments before all hell broke loose is forthcoming. not that i haven't enjoyed the Rashomon-like testimonies of the survivors, mind you. but it will be good to finally know the Real Story.] that robyn is writing fewer fucking songs, and more love songs (much to jeme's dismay.) and that, rather than using golden princes and penthouses full of dwarves and insect mothers etc., as metaphors/props, he's being much more straight-forward these days. he's talked about this some, actually. says, basically, that it's just part of growing up. although i always thought that the jewels he was offering sophia were not the "family jewels," but, a pearl necklace. ah well, y'all are probably right. but, "family jewels" just seems a little, i dunno, *ruffian* for robyn. i mean, the person that The Asking Tree was directed at could say, "you know, that's a pretty savage slagging i've been administered here. but, damn, at least i've been slagged by a *gentleman*! or, at the very least, someone with a great vocabulary and *very* active imagination." shit, who wouldn't love, if someone was pissed off at them, to be told that all their soul is worth is processed beef clippings?? i know i would! well, the first thing i thought when i read your post, eb, was that you actually did know the title of the song, and were just pretending not to. but even if that weren't the case, you have to admit that it's exactly the *type* of thing you'd say around here, just to get a rise out of people. "The Dude abides"...I don't know about you, but i take comfort in that. It's good knowin' he's out there, "The Dude," takin' 'er easy for all us sinners. Shesh...I sure hope he makes the finals. --The Stranger ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:45:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Condiment Spice Subject: Fonts, amking and such... On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, JH3 wrote: > > So, anybody feel like resurrecting the Official Fegmaniax Font File Project? There is a site that has the downloadable software for Mac or PC that takes a handwritten sample and creates fonts for it. Since, I have just recently destroyed one or more *critical* parts to my personal computer, it will be a while before I can find the URL. I seem to remember that a visit to the Man or Astroman? site gave me a link to it. Refer to www.astroman.com (I think) for further info. The whole process seemed quite easy; the trick was to make the created words look natural and not put together one after the other. over, .chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:49:05 EDT From: Viccicraig@aol.com Subject: Re: *That* spam... umm am i the only one who deleted said mail after like the first three sentences?......i mean you cant get upset by what you dont look at, and he only sent the one mail so it will be extremely difficult to gain support from his ISP to close him off......however, if he continues to offend my new friends so much, i would be more than glad to trace his IP get his phone number and let his modem experience its own flopping of sorts if anyone would like me to (says vicci as she looks for feds again) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:53:46 EDT From: Viccicraig@aol.com Subject: Re: ...And DON'T TELL ME TO CHEER UP!!! In a message dated 98-06-22 11:43:47 EDT, hbrandt@milehigh.net writes: >West wrote: > >> Now my mission is clear. I must >> hunt down God and kick his fucking ass. I never did a thing to Him, so >> this sadistic abuse is completely uncalled for. So if any of you should >> happen to spot Him sauntering down the street in His sexy pants and His >> sausage dog, tell him I said to knock it off. >> >> And tell him I'm coming for Him.... > >You really should read the DC/Vertigo comic book PREACHER. >You'd love it. or Valis by P. K. Dick which has so many laughable moments (in that not funny but true laughable way) about what you spoke of.....you would enjoy the character Kevin....or you can take R A Wilson's lead off and send god a notice of termination and you no longer require his services ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:01:28 -0400 From: domis@tfn.com Subject: [none] Speaking of Robyn's twitches (which somebody was at some point), I'm willing to bet that alot of it has to do with the concentration it takes to sing and play guitar at the same time in front of a bunch of people watching his every move. It's easy to sing a song with a vocal line that sort of follows the strum or pick rhythm, but if the words and the guitar playing thing are going at different paces, the body and head and face start doing these kinda freaky random things. Anyone remember a gig in the late eighties with the Egyptians (I think it was in SF) where they launched into a version of "Kung Fu Fighting" in which Robyn was lying on his back, kicking and karate-chopping into the air? It was surreal, but quite pleasing. And what a great version of the song. One big plus about Egyptians shows was that Robyn would do a whole lot of body movements: waving his arms around, etc. It was an added attraction. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:55:27 EDT From: Viccicraig@aol.com Subject: Re: Thoths, the thoths are calling me In a message dated 98-06-22 13:49:34 EDT, cwallace@gwi.net writes: >I think I've gone round the bend, and theres no coming back. I just read >this as - Songs in "Thoths" are ones I am not sure of the title .... hooo >boyyy heh a whole new standard that has taken over the fnords.....the thoths ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:57:22 EDT From: Viccicraig@aol.com Subject: Happy Bday Susan heh just wanted to say so and make a new subject or something..... - --vicci (who is shutting up for a bit again) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:14:49 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: *That* spam... >umm am i the only one who deleted said mail after like the first three >sentences?......i mean you cant get upset by what you dont look at, and he True. I guess I kept on thinking that he was gonna go "ha! joke! gotcha!" or something, until I figured out that that wasn't what was up. I think part of the deal is here that we're not used to this on Feg- I kept on reading because at first I thought it was going to be declared a joke, and stop, and go on with Robyn appropriate content. It sounds weird, I know, but I just couldn't believe what I was reading and kept thinking that just one sentence on it was going to stop. What was that someone said about human fascination with car wrecks? :) >only sent the one mail so it will be extremely difficult to gain support from >his ISP to close him off...... I suspect this guy has a history of abusing this service in this way. These people usually do. If he's done this on other lists and they complain too, it'll get him yanked sho 'nuff. >friends so much, i would be more than glad to trace his IP get his phone >number and let his modem experience its own flopping of sorts if anyone would >like me to (says vicci as she looks for feds again) Hehehe! Wheeee! Nah, I'd just be happy if he'd be shutdown/shutup. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:16:00 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: More on x-mission.com >Registrant: >X-MIssion bbz (X-MISSION-DOM) > - 341431 - 432432, 432432, - 432423 432423 342332 > IL > > Domain Name: X-MISSION.COM >It seems to me that this domain's sole intent is to send anonymous >mail. The fact that the administrative and technical contacts numbers >are unavailable bolsters this theory. See, as I wrote to Glen privately, there appear to be TWO x-mission.coms, one of which (the one in Utah) looks like a perfectly legitimate outfit, the other, the one that turns up on InterNIC, some shady anonymous service somewhere in Europe (appears to be London but who knows with things like that- that could be only where the mail is routed from). A very good situation for someone like this to try to exploit as it's a handy way to confuse everyone. I think he's using the one in Utah and I'm basing further investigation on that, since the fact that he later came in from Weber University would suggest that Utah is where this fungal matter resides. I still don't know how he managed to crack his way into the list without subscribing, since that's what it looks like he did. You know, Christopher's suggestion of showing his parents this was a good one :). Brava! It made me smile to think of it. Further detective work will be off list, mail me if you wanna participate/know about it. I just thought this particular development was interesting. Love on ya, Susan just call me Sherlock :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:47:41 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: *That*... Susan writes: >I still don't know how he managed to crack his way into >the list without subscribing, since that's what it looks >like he did. Isn't there a command on the smoe.org e-mail server that returns the e-mail addresses of all subscribers? If there is, he probably just pasted them all into the Bcc: (blind-carbon-copy) line of a regular e-mail. That would explain why people on the digest weren't exposed. Otherwise, he could also have gotten many of our e-mail addresses off the web from archived digests. The message didn't come through the list - just look at the message headers. IIRC he didn't even bother to include a phony "Sender:" tag, much less try to fake the routing info. Earlier, from Marcy: >...But it's nice that quite a few of you >men have expressed disgust rather than chuckled. Actually, any response whatsoever (including this one, unfortunately) is probably a form of encouragement. JH3 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 18:07:18 -0400 From: tanter Subject: Re: *That*... At 04:47 PM 6/22/1998 -0500, JH3 wrote: > >Actually, any response whatsoever (including this one, unfortunately) is >probably a form of encouragement. Only if he's a lurker.... if he's not subscribed, he can't read our messages. I'd be heartsick to find that one of our illustrious tribe (oops--I first wrote "tripe"!) would write such filth. He's probably either a 12 yr old who just saw Penthouse for the first time and copied it out of there or he's a 45 yr old man in a mid-life crisis who's impotent. Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:29:10 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: *That*... >Isn't there a command on the smoe.org e-mail server that returns the e-mail >addresses of all subscribers? If there is, he probably just pasted them all >into the Bcc: (blind-carbon-copy) line of a regular e-mail. That would >explain why people on the digest weren't exposed. Otherwise, he could also >have gotten many of our e-mail addresses off the web from archived digests. You're right. I just looked at the full headers on that puppy and it did NOT come through the list per se, even tho the TO: line says "fegmaniax@smoe.org". It looks as if it came direct to midway.uchicago from arbornet. I think he probably did the cut and paste thing, rather than the individual address harvesting. I think if he had done that some of the digest people would have gotten it as well. Are there any lucky regular (non-digest) people who didn't see this? >IIRC he didn't even bother to include a phony "Sender:" tag, much less try >to fake the routing info. I know. I found that rather surprising. Audacious even. So sure he couldn't be traced from m-net that he didn't even bother to cook up a fake ID or mess with the routing info. That REALLY makes my blood boil, actually. Ya know, I still dunno why he picked on -us-. It's starting to look less random than I thought at first. This took a bit of trouble to do, this damage. >Actually, any response whatsoever (including this one, unfortunately) is >probably a form of encouragement. Oh sure. He's probably rubbing his impotent little hands with glee. No way to avoid it I suppose. Love on ya, Susan off to the store and chores :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 98 15:18:46 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Online Tuneage Okay, so let's say someone was to encode a bunch of RH songs and make them accessible via the WWW. Perhaps it's kinda like a radio station or jukebox type of deal - like deadradio.com. Would said site developer need contractual permission beforehand? Is there some kind of royalty payment involved? Does it matter if the song has been officially released or not? thanks for your knowledge. - -tc now compressing: all of IODOT... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:31:37 -0700 From: Danielle Subject: And if your hands were metal, that would mean something I must have missed this thing, whatever it is, being a digest-bunny. It sounded charming, I must say. People rock, don't they? Um... happy birthday, Susan! :) >From /hal: > Don't be such a starfucker. Look, dammit, don't turn my dear Ebby off the starfucking tip before I visit him next month! I expect him to rustle up someone famous to entertain me! If you lot quash him before then, I shall be sorely miffed. ;) Danielle, who laughed at Ben's post because it was clever, but not at /hal's, because it wasn't, and a little worried about ever seeing Robyn perform live after all the 'spaz' comments NP A bizarre ad for York Street Studios, with the tagline 'actually, they *can* polish a turd'. Ha! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:51:32 -0700 From: "Gee, You?" Subject: Re: *That*... tanter dixit: > He's probably either a 12 yr old who just saw Penthouse for the > first time and copied it out of there or he's a 45 yr old man in a > mid-life crisis who's impotent. > I don't recall ever reading anything like that in Penthouse (and I've read my fair share of 'em). As a matter of fact, I don't recall ever reading anything like that at all -- ANYWHERE. - -g- - ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- Glen Uber Email: uberg@sonic.net ICQ UIN: 13311304 Web: http://www.sonic.net/~uberg "Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible." --Frank Zappa - ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:57:13 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: *That* + Online Tuneage Marcy sez: >Only if he's a lurker.... if he's not subscribed, >he can't read our messages. Not to belabor the point, but the responses from earlier today are already available for anyone to see on www.fegmania.org. Now I'm not pro-censorship, but it just might be an OK idea to excise any mention of the incident (including this one) from the archive files that are available on the web. (Though it may already be...aack...too late...cough cough...) And speaking of censorship, this from TC: >Would said site developer need contractual permission beforehand? >Is there some kind of royalty payment involved? Does it matter if >the song has been officially released or not? As of February (I think) of this year: Yes, N/A*, and no. Assuming the song/performance isn't in the public domain already... I forget the name of the new law (Bayard, do you remember?), but it was quite a victory for the record companies, because they, not the artists, are considered the "aggrieved party" and thus get most of the damages recovered. Though as always it doesn't apply to all countries, just the US and nations with similar restrictions (I think that includes the UK). At the same time, the music industry doesn't generally bother individuals who do stuff like that; it's not worth the legal fees, unless you have millions of dollars they can sue you for. Of course, I'm not an attorney, so don't take my word for it! John Hedges * "N/A" because there's no mechanism in place for payment of royalties from online distribution, unless they just set it up recently in response to the new law. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:10:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Online Tuneage > >Would said site developer need contractual permission beforehand? > >Is there some kind of royalty payment involved? Does it matter if > >the song has been officially released or not? > > As of February (I think) of this year: Yes, N/A*, and no. Assuming the > song/performance isn't in the public domain already... I forget the name of > the new law (Bayard, do you remember?), but it was quite a victory for the > record companies, because they, not the artists, are considered the > "aggrieved party" and thus get most of the damages recovered. Though as > always it doesn't apply to all countries, just the US and nations with > similar restrictions (I think that includes the UK). which makes for a simple solution: all we need is someone with server space in an unrestricted country! i'm not sure how the legal stuff works but i think american fegs could even link directly to the songs from their pages (if they include a disclaimer.) as for the new law, i've had to un-sign-up from the DAT-heads digest due to mail overflow, so i dinno nothin about that. But I do-know RH said it was ok to record covers of his unreleased songs. He told me if I make lots of money from "More Chinese Boys" I can just send him some. (WB or whoever holds no claim on such older unreleased pieces, no?) =b ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 98 16:30:47 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Online Tuneage On 6/22/98 4:10 PM, Bayard wrote: >But I do-know RH said it >was ok to record covers of his unreleased songs. Yeah, but what about freely distributing (via www) recordings of him performing unreleased material? see below. > He told me if I make >lots of money from "More Chinese Boys" I can just send him some. (WB or >whoever holds no claim on such older unreleased pieces, no?) I believe that's the case. Robyn, as the author, holds copyright (i guess that's the word). But, Warner's has no claim if the recording's never been manufactured and sold. Guess I better get Pierre to clean up the server room in Monserrat - er, nevermind... - -tc ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #232 *******************************