From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #224 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, June 16 1998 Volume 07 : Number 224 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: new song [Tony.Blackman@sita.int] Ram's Head ["Jenee A. Jordan" ] Uncarved & Unhatched [hal brandt ] nmh date in DC [Scary Mary ] Don't talk to me about my birthday... [Tom Clark ] Re: gfathers? [kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander)] Re: gfathers? [Condiment Spice ] Re: Fwd: Re: Randi, and the 4/13 setlist [amadain ] Re: Don't talk to me about my birthday... ["mr. pointy" ] Robyn @ Largo... for TWO days! [chris franz ] where is everyone? [tanter ] a number of remarkably well-organized remarks [lj lindhurst Guy Pearce (Romper Stomper, L.A. Confidential). The movie will be shot here > in Austin this summer. Vic Chesnutt, Joe Henry and Ron Sexsmith have also > contributed songs. Aaaaagggghhhhhh, Mike from "Neighbours" if I'm not mistaken! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:37:31 -0400 From: "Jenee A. Jordan" Subject: Ram's Head > tsk, ben. You didn't even come back to say hi to us other fegs, and > now > you want a copy of our awesome tape? I was also looking for Jenee, > self-descibed as a beautiful blonde with a pint of stout, but i think > we > all were, last night. (snip) What? You didn't see me? (hee hee) I was so close to RH I could've spit on him! ;) If you were facing the stage and stood at the front left corner, then took two huge steps backward diagonally, you would have tripped over my boots.... (sounds like twister, don't it?) I was the one downing the huge wheel of brie as he began "Cheese Alarm" --perfect accompaniment to my 1/2 pint of stout (tiny glasses there at the Ram's Head, boo!) ...and not the best I've tasted, but hey, there was a lot of other stuff to crow about. Of course, I go to the bathroom just as he begins Clean Steve (one of my favorites) so here I am frantically running back to my seat and all.... Really enjoyed the show, especially "nothing but time for you" and "madonna of the wasps" and all the sherlock/watson stuff. My imagination, or was he trying to placate all the "WHFS" listeners in the audience? Was surprised that he kept quoting that station (I've only heard him in Richmond prior to this, not exactly a radio heaven by any means---not to say that HFS is either ; ) Maybe I shoulda met up with you guys, my other friends got separated from Ronda and I---ended up at another table. The two poor souls at our table never said "boo" the whole night, and look eeerily like rabid trekkies! (no flames, I like Star Trek, but there is a limit) I will say one thing, the food was great, didn't get the balloon man chicken, but alien chuck roast was out of this world.....jenee - -- "What is heaven?........Heaven is relief from tired tootsies." - --from Diane Keaton's documentary, "Heaven" check out my web page: http://home.earthlink.net/~penpapercofe/ pen, paper, coffee - The elements of writing... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:40:44 -0600 From: hal brandt Subject: Uncarved & Unhatched Bayard wrote: > He asked if I had done "uncarved pumpkins" and I said it > was a friend in portland. And he wasn't aware of Unhatched Crablings?! Someone should pass Robyn some dubs of this essential compilation quick! /hal (crossing my fingers for Vols. V and VI) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:46:43 -0400 From: Scary Mary Subject: nmh date in DC For all those interested: Neutral Milk Hotel will be at the Black Cat in DC on July 18th. Here's a link for the Black Cat: http://yp.washingtonpost.com/yp/blackcat/3.html Mary ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 98 10:00:18 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Don't talk to me about my birthday... I really need to hear Gene Hackman at some point today. Any filanthropic feg know where I could score an MP3, WAV, AIFF, RA, etc...? - -t "35" c ******************************************* Tom Clark Apple Computer, Inc. tclark@apple.com http://www.netgate.net/~tclark "Cheez Whiz is not something you eat... It's something you see a urologist for." - Dennis Miller ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:20:09 -0400 From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: Re: gfathers? >>Subject: Re: Birth, childhood, schizophrenia, old age, Death. >> >>Well, that's not quite the right title, but the Godfathers thank you for >>the attempt. > > whatever happened to the masters of > 'birth, school, work, death'? ooh baby! love the godfathers. i'll never forget seeing them headline with living color back in '89. phenomenal! anyway, they're pretty much defunct now. they released a couple more albums after _birth, school, work, death_ but never came close to that albums' success. figures, since they got better and better with each release. _more songs about love and hate_ expands their sound to include some more country-ish rock and takes their dark vision even further than before. they changed lead guitarists (after he left, chris dollimore appeared on the damned's _not of this earth_) for their swansong _unreal world_. it is a fantastic album, made better for me by the fact that they have just about eliminated their technique of the chorus being just the title of the song repeated over and over. it's really suprrising that they couldn't eek a hit out of this one. i've always looked in the bins hoping against hope that they'd have another unheralded release suddenly appear; but alas, no. i read about a live bootleg called _dope, rock 'n' roll & fucking in the streets_; but i've never seen it anywhere. some of their stuff was produced by the prodigious vic maile. rhythm guitarist michael gibson has also appeared in various capacities on numerous albums. any word on the coyne brothers? KEN "an offer you can't refuse" THE KENSTER ps i just did a little looking around on the web and found that they apparently did release an album called _afterlife_ in '96. has anyone seen this? sounds like a compilation of some kind. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:45:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Condiment Spice Subject: Re: gfathers? On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Ken Ostrander wrote: > i've always looked in the bins hoping against hope > that they'd have another unheralded release suddenly appear; but alas, no. > i read about a live bootleg called _dope, rock 'n' roll & fucking in the > streets_; but i've never seen it anywhere. some of their stuff was > produced by the prodigious vic maile. rhythm guitarist michael gibson has > also appeared in various capacities on numerous albums. any word on the > coyne brothers? Ken hit all the highs of the band, which are indeed few. There is a Columbia promo LP and CD titled "Texas Chainsaw Massacre." This was a post-"More songs..." thingy. I did see two or three years ago a small club listing in the NME or MM that showed some new dates. It seemed there was some significant personal and prestige changes. They may be playing locally for cheap if your in London and really keep up on those things, or so it seemed from the add. I don't think they will be back in the near future and certainly not on a major label. .chris (who would love to see some reviews of the Nick Lowe shows from list members, as well as get the full Linctus House explanation--unabridged!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 15:59:16 -0600 From: amadain Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Randi, and the 4/13 setlist >Well, here's my input on the show, in no particular order. > >Favorite witticisms: "Cheese needs no passport." "How much polystyrene can >I think of?" "A constellation of flies." He also introduced us to the >concepts of fish stereo and the apple sandwich. Well, it may not need a passport but be careful where you take it. A drug smuggler was caught recently in Switzerland by his cheese, that is to say, customs officials (rightly, as it turns out) thought it suspicious that he would be importing Bolivian cheese into Switzerland. This item was in "News of the Weird" not too long ago, IIRC. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:08:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: nmh date in DC On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Scary Mary wrote: > For all those interested: > > Neutral Milk Hotel will be at the Black Cat in DC on July 18th. > > Here's a link for the Black Cat: > And in The Covered Dish in Gainesville on June 27. Anyone from this list besides bme attending that one? Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 21:25:21 -0400 From: "mr. pointy" Subject: Re: Don't talk to me about my birthday... also sprach Tom Clark: >I really need to hear Gene Hackman at some point today. Any filanthropic >feg know where I could score an MP3, WAV, AIFF, RA, etc...? y'know, that's a mighty good idea: an archive of rare and oddball songs. alas, i do not have the equipment (ahem) to digitize (yet), so if some hardy soul is willing to mpegize these songs, i would be happy to provide a home for them on the web. woj n.p. howard leyward frith laswell -- meridiem ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 21:46:52 -0700 From: chris franz Subject: Robyn @ Largo... for TWO days! The LA Weekly reports that Robyn is slated for shows at Cafe Largo in West Hollywood both this Saturday and Friday, just like before. If Largo tradition holds, Jon Brion will also have a set Friday, and someone else will also have a Saturday set. And, of course, at about 1AM they'll all go out there and play a bunch of covers and improvs and other cool stuff. I've got this info second-hand, so I can't say for sure who else will be there. I'm sure some kindly LA Feg will fill in the details. I'm probably not going to be able to get out of town this weekend, and will just have to whimper at the tales of the goings-on with Largo's piano. grr. - - Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:49:18 -0400 From: tanter Subject: where is everyone? Hey all--we're back and resubbed last nite. Not a single message has come through yet. What's up? Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:11:40 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: a number of remarkably well-organized remarks Hi everybody! Goddamnit, where have I been??? #1: The two Bottom Line shows Friday night were great! I brought my new roommate, The Big Ragu. We met up with fellow fegs Gary Assassin, woj, and ferris. We all decided that Gary's new name should be either "Black Bart" or "Jet!" I myself prefer Jet! because then he would have a cool name with an exclamation point in it. And then of course every time you say hey Jet!, your mind finishes it by going "woo-hoo-hoo-woo-hoo-hoo-woo-hoo-hoo!" (sorry to every person who now has the WINGS LYRICS CURSE for the rest of the day!)(but not really sorry, it kind of makes me feel satisfied) We had chicken wings and fries. #2: The Big Ragu and I also went to the Guinness Fleadh on Sunday here in NYC. I mention this because if any of the rest of yous-all get a chance to go to this festival, it was well worth the $40 despite the fact that no one got struck by lightning. Briefly, we saw: Wilco, Billy Bragg, Los Lobos, The Saw Doctors, **Patti Smith**, X, and Shane McGowan & the Popes. (we also saw a buncha traditional Irish music too, but I won't bore you with the details) a.) Wilco-- what a great band to see live. And Jeff Tweedy- oh! oh! oh! He was- well, oh! (Susan, back me up here) They're doing an interesting record with Billy Bragg called "Mermaid Avenue"-- it's a bunch of Woody Guthrie songs that were never set to music. Apparently, Woody's niece found the lyrics and notes, and turned them over to Billy and the Wilco bunch. So all day long, Wilco and Bragg were happily playing those tunes and mercilessly promoting the record (June 22! June 22! I know the release date by heart!). So Billy joined Wilco for a song or two from this collection, then Wilco joined Billy for a bunch of songs during his set, including a raucous singalong with Woody Guthrie's niece joining them. Very cool! b.) Billy Bragg-- he had a full backup band, which kind of disappointed The Big Ragu, who wanted an acoustic set (who also did not care much for the Woody songs, but there is no accounting for taste)(i.e., Jerry Garcia and Titanic). Highlights: The dude from Wilco came out with a T-shirt that had "I am the milkman of human kindness" written on it in magic marker... someone started hysterically screaming "You motherfucker! The unions ruined Michigan!!" while Billy was spewing his usual political shite (he ignored it and spewed on)...oh, and I thought the fervent, fat-assed, dancing Billy fan in front of me was going to knock my block off when I made fun of the way he was INCESSANTLY mentioning the release date of the new album! (man, those Billy Bragg fans are real hooligans) c.) Los Lobos-- eh, they were good and all, but that's not the kind of music I easily get attached to. They DID do a Grateful Dead song. d.) isn't it nice how well organized my list is? I have numbers AND sub-headings. Just wanted to call that to your attention. e.) Saw Doctors-- they crowd LOVED them, and went crazy when they were up on stage! I'm not familiar with their music, but I did enjoy their set...it was at this point during the day that I decided yes, well, MY LAST TWO DOLLARS is a fair price for a fucking cup of coffee in a styrofoam cup... (bring lots of MONEY if you go!) f.) the highlight of the day, the week, the month, the year, was PATTI SMITH! She was AWESOME!!! She is the coolest woman in the entire world, and I am now convinced that I have to be just like her. Honest to god, two days later I am still reeling from the experience. g.) X-- very good, very sexy! A great set! Exene looks like she lost weight and got off junk (but her breasts are still enormous, you will all be glad to know)(speaking of Titanic). h.) Shane McGowan and the Popes-- well, I am not as familiar with this band as I ought to be, but I still enjoyed it greatly. This was the last show of the night, and Shane showed up late, looking *completely wasted*. I've heard this was par for the course, but really, I was amazed he could even stand up. The crowd was really super drunk by this point as well, and shirtless frat boys kept climbing the tent poles and chanting "We want Shane! We want Shane!" They were pelted with beer and garbage. So was the stage, and so were some of the seriously aggravated security guards. To make matters worse, we were forced to listen to 38 Special's "The Boys Are Back In Town" three times while we waited! (yes, I am now convinced that NOTHING can kill the Quail!!) But once Shane started, it was great, and everyone was dancing wildly! #3: Rufus Wainwright: Well, Eb, I took your recommendation and bought this album. Though it isn't that BAD, really, I cannot imagine YOU liking this record. Are you just fucking with us???? or do you REALLY like it?? Because I can see how it sounds sort of like that one French singer lady that you like (Claudine Cousteau? a.k.a., C#?). And furthermore, I am AMAZED at how much Rufus sounds like Ron Sexsmith! If there wasn't a big ol gay-lookin picture of Rufus on the front, I would SWEAR it was the Ron Sexsmith Basement Tapes! Then again, maybe if you give Ron Sexsmith that badly-needed haircut and dress him up with some E.Village street-fair jewelry, that's what you get. Huh. lj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:38:36 -0500 From: David Librik Subject: Re: a number of remarkably well-organized remarks LJ wrote: > e.) Saw Doctors-- they crowd LOVED them, and went crazy when they >were up on stage! I'm not familiar with their music, but I did enjoy their >set... Yay! The Saw Doctors. My very favorite Doctors; at least better than the Spin Doctors and Doctor And The Medics. The story on the Saw Doctors is that they come from the rural West of Ireland, from a town called Tuam, where all the boys and girls are emigrating to England and America to find work. These aren't the cynical punk Anglo-Irish of the Pogues, crusading world-conscious folks like U2 or Sinead, or hip Irish-Americans. They're a bunch of lads who (like many of their countrymen) like girls, football, and drinking at the pub with their mates. And so all their songs are about girls, football, drinking at the pub with their mates, and how much they miss Ireland where the people they love are. Musically, they play that sort of rocked-up Irish ceili music that the Pogues punkified; the best dance music ever. Needless to say, when they do tours of America they play in the cities with large young Irish emigrant populations, because that's their audience. I love them to death, but I think I may be the only one of their fans who didn't come from the West of Ireland. Recommended if: You love Celtic Folk Rock and unabashed sentiment. Not recommended if: Linking arms and singing lustily about how you wish you were back on the N17 in County Galway with the stone walls and the grasses green offends your sense of coolness. Dubliners hate 'em, by the way, at least the ones who want their country to get beyond the beer-drinking football-playing farming-and-potcheen image. - - David Librik (I can't think of any Robyn connection here. I don't think he's ever played a jig anywhere, and the closest he gets to folk is parodies of English Traditional Song.) p.s. Only one Saw Doctors CD available in America: the greatest-hits collection _Sing A Powerful Song_. (That's "greatest-hits in Ireland," where they're the #1 band, not "greatest-hits in the USA," where nobody cares.) ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #224 *******************************