From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #207 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, May 30 1998 Volume 07 : Number 207 Today's Subjects: ----------------- more celebrity death?? [Eb ] RE: more celebrity death?? ["Chaney, Dolph L" ] Re: more celebrity death?? [Sean Hennessey ] FS: 2 Soft Boys & 3 RH records [Clint_Golden@intuit.com (Clint Golden)] Yet another celebrity death.... ["Scott (Ferris) Thomas" ] Re: Still, life goes on...your thoughts, Nat? ;) [John B Jones ] Just a speculative thought... [Eb ] Re: Just a speculative thought... [tanter ] Re: Just a speculative thought... [Sean Hennessey ] Re: Still, life goes on...your thoughts, Nat? ;) [nicastr@idt.net (Ben)] Re: Still, life goes on...your thoughts, Nat? ;) [Tom Clark ] Re: Just a speculative thought... [Viccicraig@aol.com] Phil Hartman [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 11:53:22 -0700 From: Eb Subject: more celebrity death?? This just in, but unconfirmed: PHIL HARTMAN??? :(, Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 14:56:38 -0400 From: "Chaney, Dolph L" Subject: RE: more celebrity death?? 'Fraid so. http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/TV/9805/28/hartman.obit/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 11:58:40 -0700 From: Eb Subject: celebrity death! Jeez. Now, this one really makes me sad. And it just occured to me: no more Troy McClure! Eb Phil Hartman, wife, found dead in possible murder-suicide By JENNIFER BOWLES Associated Press Writer LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Phil Hartman, who impersonated President Clinton on ``Saturday Night Live'' and went on to star in the NBC sitcom ``NewsRadio,'' was found shot to death in his home this morning along with his wife in a suspected murder-suicide. The 49-year-old actor's wife fatally shot herself while police were in their house investigating his death. Police and an ambulance responded to a call of shots fired shortly after 6 a.m. at the home in the Encino section. Officers were removing two children from the home when Brynn Hartman, 40, shot herself, police Lt. Anthony Alba said. That shooting came shortly after police found her husband's body in the master bedroom. ``We are investigating this as a possible murder-suicide,'' Alba said. ``We know for sure that the female inflicted her own gunshot wound. She shot herself as police were removing the second child from the home,'' Lt. Anthony Alba said. ``Mr. Hartman had been dead for a while.'' Hartman, 49, got his break on the ``The Groundlings,'' which has produced such names as Pee Wee Herman (Paul Reubens) and Steve Guttenberg. Hartman appeared on ``Saturday Night Live'' for eight seasons, which he found stressful. He told People magazine in a 1995 interview, ``The rejection and backstabbing could be painful but the hardest thing was competing against your friends for airtime.'' He joined ``SNL'' in 1986, part of a cast that included Jon Lovitz, Dennis Miller and Dana Carvey. Hartman scored with his amazing skill at impersonation. During his seven seasons, he mimicked upwards of 70 famous people, including Clinton, Ed McMahon, Jimmy Swaggart and Phil Donahue. ``Even at Westchester High in West L.A., I was class clown, because I could do John Wayne, Jack Benny, Jack Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson and entertain my friends on the senior lawn,'' he remembered in a 1995 Associated Press interview. ``But I never seriously considered it as a career choice.'' ``NewsRadio'' came along in 1995, with Hartman playing the vain anchor Bill McNeal. The show was a critical favorite, but had difficulty finding an audience as it bounced around NBC's prime-time schedule. It had several brushes with cancellation, and it was somewhat surprising when NBC announced last week it would come back for another season in the fall. Hartman also did voices for ``The Simpsons.'' ``One of the remarkable things about my career is that it has been marked by steady, incremental progress. No sudden spikes up, and no sudden downfalls, either,'' he said in 1995. ``I haven't really been slammed, like some of my buddies. I can't imagine that I'm going to avoid that in my career. Because I came into it so late, after working in the corporate world of advertising and graphic design, I know how hard the average person works, because I've been there. ``I've succeeded beyond my wildest dreams -- financially and the amount of fun I have in my life.'' Like Dan Aykroyd, the late John Candy and numerous other comics, Hartman was born in Canada. Unlike the others, he grew up in the United States -- Connecticut and Southern California. He studied art and wound up in graphic design, doing album covers for rock bands. Hartman got his start in show business in 1975, when he dropped in on an improvisational comedy club and was impressed by the comics' fast wit. In a 1995 Associated Press interview, he recalled that he told himself, ``I gotta do this!'' He joined a workshop of the Groundlings comedy troupe and later became a member. He got bit parts and collaborated with fellow Groundling Paul ``Pee-wee Herman'' Reubens on the script of ``Pee-wee's Big Adventure.'' ``I was 36, and I had decided to quit acting because it was so disappointing,'' Hartman recalls. ```Pee-wee's Big Adventure' was relatively successful, and if you can be associated with a hit, a lot of doors open. I found the writing arena to be much less competitive. ``As an actor, I felt I couldn't compete. I wasn't as cute as the leading man; I wasn't as brilliant as Robin Williams. The one thing I could do was voices and impersonations and weird characters, and there was really no call for that. Except on `Saturday Night Live.' '' It isn't the first time tragedy has struck cast members of ``Saturday Night Live.'' John Belushi, who went from the original ``SNL'' cast in 1975 to Hollywood stardom in films like ``Animal House,'' died of a drug overdose at age 33 in 1982. Fellow cast member Gilda Radner, who went from ``SNL'' to Broadway and occasional films, died at age 42 of ovarian cancer in 1989. Last December, Chris Farley, ``Saturday Night Live'' star of the early 1990s who also appeared in films such as ``Tommy Boy,'' died of a drug overdose. Like his idol Belushi, he was 33. AP-WS-05-28-98 1357EDT ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 14:56:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Sean Hennessey Subject: Re: more celebrity death?? > This just in, but unconfirmed: PHIL HARTMAN??? > > :(, > Eb No, this is true. Got it at work and a co-worker confirmed it off of the radio. The current guess is murder/suicide, that his wife shot him then herself, but that is just a guess. tara - Sean ******************************************************************************* Sean Hennessey, President of Boston Reds, http://members.tripod.com/~boston_reds/red_army.html Member and co-admin of the Red Devils list: red-devils@pipeline.com e-mail: suggs@tiac.net or giggs@tiac.net ICQ: 9288628 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:12:49 -0700 From: Clint_Golden@intuit.com (Clint Golden) Subject: FS: 2 Soft Boys & 3 RH records Hey everyone I'm broke, so I'm hawking some records. Here's what I've got: Soft Boys "Lope at the Hive/2 Halves for the Price of One" LP $15 Soft Boys "A Can of Bees" on Aura records - the rare one - yellow back! $25 Robyn Hitchcock "Nightride to Trinidad" 12" on Albion $15 Robyn Hitchcock "Exploding in Silence" Picture disc $12 Robyn Hitchcock "The Hooded One" live boot LP from 1986 $10 Any takers? Oh yeah, I'd also be willing to trade for: Soft Boys "He's a Reptile" 7" Soft Boys "Underwater Moonlight" on Roof Records (B&W cover) thanks! clint ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:13:58 -0400 From: "Scott (Ferris) Thomas" Subject: Yet another celebrity death.... This made today suck just that much more.... Thursday May 28 2:01 PM EDT UPDATE: Comedian Phil Hartman found dead (police confirm; adds details) LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Canadian-born comedian and "Saturday Night Live" alumnus Phil Hartman and his wife were found dead Thursday of gunshot wounds at Hartman's suburban Los Angeles estate, police said. Police said it appeared that Hartman was shot by his wife, Brynn, who later killed herself as police entered the house to investigate reports of the earlier shooting. Two children were removed from the house in an upscale section of Encino, a San Fernando Valley neighborhood northwest of downtown Los Angeles. The children's identities were not immediately known, but they were assumed to the Hartmans' children, according to police at the scene. Hartman, 49, was found dead in his bed. His wife was found dead in the kitchen. Police said they responded to a call about 6 a.m. PDT (9 a.m. EDT) from people in the area who heard gunshots. Police raced to the scene and discovered the bodies. After eight years as a star of "Saturday Night Live," the Ontario-born Hartman joined the cast of the NBC sitcom "NewsRadio" in 1995, co-starring as the imperious anchorman Bill McNeal. The show, which had problems finding an audience, was recently renewed by NBC. Hartman was famed for his impersonations of leading political and celebrity figures, especially President Clinton. Hartman also supplied the voices for several characters on the cartoon series "The Simpsons." His film credits include appearances in "Pee-Wee's Big Adventure" (1985), "Three Amigos!" (1986), "National Lampoon's Loaded Weapon 1" (1993), "Coneheads" (1993), "Jingle All the Way" (1996), "Sgt. Bilko" (1996) and the upcoming "Small Soldiers." Reuters/Variety - --- Ferris Scott Thomas Funnybone Interactive Pecking for the pellet. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 20:23:38 +0100 From: Gary Sedgwick Subject: NMH gig report and BritFeg '98 apology On Tue 26 May 1998, M R Godwin wrote: > Oh, by the way, Britfeg '98 was a raving success, drawing a massed crowd > of JT, Tony Blackman, Nick Winkworth et moi (Gary, where were you?). Sorry I couldn't make it. I did warn you guys - I was working most of the weekend. I know where I'd rather have been... I did go to the NMH gig at the 12 Bar on the Saturday evening though (I only had the stamina for seeing one band in that place, so left before Tim Keegan came on). I wasn't *very* impressed, but mainly because I couldn't figure out what lyrics were being sung (no, the vocals were way too *loud* - even distorting a lot of the time). I was impressed by the bass / electric accordian / saw player though - anyone who can spin around that fast *and* keep his electric accordian plugged in gets my vote. The saw playing was unbelievably good - I've never tried it, but I guess it's a lot harder than it seems. He was also pretty much out of it, whether it was adrenalin or alcohol, and at one point fell over and landed in a pile of amps - but without losing his fingering on the accordian! The lead singer first of all made me think of Donovan for some reason - he looks like him a bit (and this is only a comparison to videos of old footage). I did enjoy the singing, and there were a lot of interesting rhythms and melodies going on. I will get the 2nd album when it comes out over here - I imagine it's completely different from the live sound though. Gary ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:43:22 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Still, life goes on...your thoughts, Nat? ;) > LONDON, May 28 (AFP) - A television cookery show which featured >human placenta being cooked and eaten by the new mother and a chef >was condemned by the British broadcasting watchdog Thursday. > The presenter of Channel 4's "TV Dinners," Hugh Fearnley >Whittingstall, devised the recipe with mother Rosie Clear for the >party for the birth of her daughter Indi-Mo Krebbs. > The afterbirth was fried with shallots and garlic, flambeed and >pureed and served to 20 family and friends as a pate on focaccia >bread. The father Lee had 17 helpings but other guests were less >enthusiastic. > Nine viewers criticised the show on the grounds of taste and on >Thursday their complaints were upheld by the Broadcasting Standards >Commission because it said the programme had breached a taboo "which >would have been disagreeable to many." > The practice is not illegal and the commission noted that the >programme makers sought to treat the subject sensitively and >fairly. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:49:47 -0700 From: John B Jones Subject: Re: Still, life goes on...your thoughts, Nat? ;) >> LONDON, May 28 (AFP) - A television cookery show which featured >>human placenta being cooked and eaten by the new mother and a chef >>was condemned by the British broadcasting watchdog Thursday. As the Dear Janes would say: "Grace my table!!!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:09:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: ram's head gig 6/13 i have just been informed that the ram's head does not issue general admission tickets. thus, those who buy the last tickets get stuck in a far-off corner. i'd be happy to arrange a group buy if others are sure they will be going. we could car pool as well. so who else is going to this expensive show? gene, doug, mary, luther, ben? =b ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 14:25:05 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Just a speculative thought... NewsRadio adds the guy who played J. Peterman on "Seinfeld" to the cast? Sounds logical to me.... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:23:55 -0400 From: tanter Subject: Re: Just a speculative thought... At 02:25 PM 5/28/1998 -0700, Eb wrote: >NewsRadio adds the guy who played J. Peterman on "Seinfeld" to the cast? > >Sounds logical to me.... That's a good idea but I just can't imagine the show without Phil. He was just so great. I feel awful for his kids--they're only 9 and 6 and now they're orphans probably at the hands of their mother. What a great way to grow up. Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:34:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Sean Hennessey Subject: Re: Just a speculative thought... > >NewsRadio adds the guy who played J. Peterman on "Seinfeld" to the cast? > > > >Sounds logical to me.... Someone mentioned to me that Phil had more to do with NewsRadio than just the part, as Producer and contributor or something. They made it sound like it was a bit of his baby, anyone know the full story? I had honestly never thought much of him beyond the Simpsons voices and being one of the few actually occationally funny things on SNL, this was news to me... tara - Sean ******************************************************************************* Sean Hennessey, President of Boston Reds, http://members.tripod.com/~boston_reds/red_army.html Member and co-admin of the Red Devils list: red-devils@pipeline.com e-mail: suggs@tiac.net or giggs@tiac.net ICQ: 9288628 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 18:02:31 -0500 From: nicastr@idt.net (Ben) Subject: Re: Still, life goes on...your thoughts, Nat? ;) >> Nine viewers criticised the show on the grounds of taste "Waiter! This placenta is sour!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 98 15:11:05 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Still, life goes on...your thoughts, Nat? ;) On 5/28/98 4:02 PM, Ben wrote: >>> Nine viewers criticised the show on the grounds of taste > >"Waiter! This placenta is sour!" > "Hmmm, guess it has to go back in for a while..." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 20:17:39 EDT From: KarmaFuzzz@aol.com Subject: Re: Just a speculative thought... In a message dated 98-05-28 17:25:30 EDT, gondola@deltanet.com writes: > NewsRadio adds the guy who played J. Peterman on "Seinfeld" to the cast? > > Sounds logical to me.... my first thought was b.d. wong, but that could be because i had just surfed over from him being interviewed on rosie o'donnell about the new disney film when i heard. scary interview. nothing as bizarre as watching a gay man and a lesbian* flirt on tv.... *okay, alleged. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 21:11:07 -0700 From: Katherine Rossner Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #206 >From: Scary Mary >For any of the folks who expressed an interest in the eyeballs, >here's a number where you can get them: > >Oriental Trading Company Aha! (I kept thinking I should have checked the OTC catalogue a few weeks before the fegfest, when I was looking for the party favors. For the record, the reptiles and amphibians were mine, from a store somewhere along the highway in Pennsylvania. The clicking scorpion--and yes, if it'd been a trilobite I'd have gotten a batch of them--was from the same place. The octopus was from a different store off the same exit.) *** >From: Tom Clark >Subject: Bay Area Fegs --> Seattle? > >I'm trying to set the record for most airline miles spent on Robyn in one >year. So, any BA fegs thinking of paying back our NW buds for their trip >down here last month? It's only $98 round trip from SJC. > >lemme know, If you haven't decided I'm too boring, maybe...of course, it also depends on my (a) having found a job (so that I can afford to go), and (b) having found a job in which I won't be working on the weekend...or whatever day the concert is, come to think of it. **** >From: griffith >Subject: Queen is gone > >I've found a lucky home for the Queen Elvis CD. > >I'll keep an eye out for any more of them. It shows up in the $3.95 pile at Rasputin's in Berkeley fairly often. Anybody who wants me to keep an eye out (oof! I shouldn't use that metaphor with Mary's party favors around!) for one, email and say so... **** >From: Mike Runion Thanks for the guitar-playing! **** I don't know what to say about Fegfest, especially as it sounds like I missed one of the best parts (wake me up next time, somebody, please?). I really enjoyed meeting all of you. And I don't care, I *liked* the squid. (I also loved haggis, when Scottish hosts fed it to me as a joke...and blutwurst, and tripe, and...you get the idea.) Katherine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 01:51:17 EDT From: Viccicraig@aol.com Subject: Re: Just a speculative thought... In a message dated 98-05-28 17:33:44 EDT, tanter@econs.umass.edu writes: >That's a good idea but I just can't imagine the show without Phil. He was >just so great. I feel awful for his kids--they're only 9 and 6 and now >they're orphans probably at the hands of their mother. What a great way to >grow up. > >Marcy The really horrid thing is the deal is like this.....The neighbors called 911 hearing fighting and a shot....police come, as they are removing kids they hear more shots, the wife killed him and then herself with the kids still around =[ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 00:30:27 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Phil Hartman I thought this newsgroup post was very sweet. :( Eb - ----- I rarely post to newsgroups, but I though I might contribute a little story I heard about Phil Hartman to honor his memory... A friend of mine works with a guy named Dave Nelson (I kid you not) who was a big fan of Phil's from the very beginning. About 5 years ago, he sent Phil an audio tape and a humble request for an answering machine message. Phil sent back a tape full of messages: some as himself, some as famous people, some as his better known characters. Dave Nelson was thrilled. About six months later, Dave's phone rang and he answered it. It was Phil Hartman, "just wanting to hear my own voice." Apparently, Dave and Phil didn't talk long, but Phil was very funny and friendly. From then on, every now and then Dave would get a phone message from Phil, just saying hi and making sure he was still happy with the tape. Seems to me a very generous thing to do, especially since Phil was already a pretty big star by the time Dave contacted him. It paints a very sweet picture, and one I want to remember him by. Emily Slatten ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #207 *******************************