From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #202 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, May 24 1998 Volume 07 : Number 202 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Quick party note [Tracy Aileen Copeland ] Very little [Danielle ] 20 yrs? [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] the band [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #201 [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] Alice Cooper ["Coolio Iglesias" ] Re: Alice Cooper [BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper)] andy ["Capitalism Blows" ] "faraz can't even clean up his own ass yet." ["Capitalism Blows" ] 20 years and still not divorced/remarried/mistresses/etc. [KarmaFuzzz ] Re: "faraz can't even clean up his own ass yet." ["Chris, the missing ye] Re: Very little [dlang ] re: Vinnie [tanter ] Bloody fegfest. [dlang ] re: fegfest [tanter ] get with it Quail and co. ["J.M. Brown H9602040" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 09:13:30 -0500 (EST) From: Tracy Aileen Copeland Subject: Re: Quick party note On Thu, 21 May 1998, Ross Overbury wrote: > So who's Simon Kunath? A friend of Hitchcock's. _I Often Dream of Trains_ was "worked out" in his barn, according to the liner notes, and he was part of the merry crew that annoyed the downstairs neighbors playing "Trash" and "Let There Be More Darkness" at inconsiderate volumes (not, presumably, at the barn, I mean the downstairs neighbors at the barn were probably also disturbed but I doubt the fact of their disturbance was set down for posterity.) Ros Kunath, once of Maureen and the Meatpackers, is Simon's sister and was Hitchcock's girlfriend. She took the photographs on a few of the earlier Hitchcock album covers. Musicians and fans who emulate them: Barry Manilow, by all accounts, is incredibly thin-skinned about criticism and becomes defensive and hostile when confronted by it (if the man put out an album of the loathing and hatred he seems to feel it'd rival _Never Mind the Bollocks_). The Manilow fans I've known act like his proxies, getting personally insulted if someone puts the man down, writing angry letters to critics, and so forth even if they're otherwise mild-mannered. - -- #! /usr/local/bin/perl $o=8889100880689;$s='1f6f544f';$o*=5;for(27,o(split//,$o),54){print t($_)}sub o{for(@_){$_||(push@a,0)&&next;/3/?push@a,$_.=4:/5/?push@a ,$_.=3:push@a,$_.=chop$s}@a}sub t{chr(hex($_)+32)} ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 02:34:03 -0700 From: Danielle Subject: Very little lj wrote: > your friend, > Swimmin Ho You know, I was browsing the latest Australian edition of Cosmopolitan, and in one article, a woman was quoted whose real name was Happy Ho. I kid you not. For some reason I needed to share that. Susan, I was a Sha Na Na kinda kid, too. If only I could have done that fist-wrist-twist. ;) Ebran ('don't tell them it's healthy, and they'll eat it by the boxful') wrote, begging masochistically for Aussie insults (which he got in spades, I laughed like hell): > Well, I already dismissed Paul Kelly yesterday.... ;) For which I have already called you a drongo. ;) James writes: > 4. Bruno Lawrence. Will mean little to you if you are not a New Zealander, > but if you get a chance, check out one of his movies (The Quiet Earth, > maybe, or Utu, or Smash Palace) What about Blerta? And he was the drummer for the Crocodiles. 'Well hello GIRL...' Danielle, hating the cover of 'Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking' with an indescribable passion, and wondering how Eb got this new nickname of Dave Lang's... 'Vinnie'? As in Barbarino? PS Have a nice party, people... and James, don't geek out too much at the sf convention... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 15:12:42 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: 20 yrs? On Sat, 23 May 1998 09:39:06 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: >REM's new record without Bill Berry has me wondering if anyone can name >another band besides Queen who stayed together for at leaast 20 years >without a single line-up change. I can't. Rush....U2.... Willie Nelson's touring band... (the late) Carl Perkins touring band..(his sons)... -luther ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 15:14:12 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: the band On Sat, 23 May 1998 09:39:06 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > >What about The Band? As I recall, they formed in 1965 with Robbie >Robertson, Levon Helm, Rick Danko, Richard Manuel and Garth Hudson. >The same line-up released their final album in 1978. That's 13 years >with the same members. Actually, they formed A DECADE before as "the hawks", touring behinf rockabilly singer ronnie hawkins... c'mon, youv'e all seen "the last waltz", right? -luther ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 15:14:48 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #201 On Sat, 23 May 1998 09:39:06 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: >I think INXS were together with the ame line-up for close to 20 >years, too, weren't they? Midnight Oil STILL is, in australia... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 09:10:11 -0700 From: "Coolio Iglesias" Subject: Alice Cooper Brett Cooper dixit: > "The Last Temptation" by Alice Cooper. Yes, Eb. Alice and Robyn! > Ooh! What a pair! Isn't _Last Temptation_ a Best-Of collection? Personally, I prefer _From The Inside_. - -g- - ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- Glen Uber uberg@sonic.net "Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible." --Frank Zappa - ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 10:31:09 -0900 From: BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper) Subject: Re: Alice Cooper >Brett Cooper dixit: > >> "The Last Temptation" by Alice Cooper. Yes, Eb. Alice and Robyn! >> Ooh! What a pair! Coolio wrote: >Isn't _Last Temptation_ a Best-Of collection? Personally, I prefer >_From The Inside_. Nope. TLT was released in 1994 and contained all new songs. You might be speaking of "Classicks," an unofficial album released by Sony Music about a year later which contained stuff from Alice's Sony years (Trash-TLT). FTI is an awesome album, songs like "The Quiet Room" and "Wish I Was Born in Beverly Hills" are the greatest. But, some songs are a little to disco-ey. The album is based off of Alice's stay in an insane asylum for his drinking problem, which, incidently, was suggested to him by Gene Landy, the same wacko doctor that treated Brian Wilson! "I swear I couldn't drink half as much as she spills..." Brett ************************************************************** Cooper Collections P.O. Box 876462 Wasilla, Alaska 99687 (907) 376-4520 BC-Radio@corecom.net http://www.corecom.net/~no6pp/Cooper_Collections.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 12:04:23 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: andy "my primary musical influence was frank sinatra." --andy metcalfe, 1992 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 12:40:04 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: "faraz can't even clean up his own ass yet." no, that was *Mission* Earth that was the ten-book series. *Battlefield* Earth is only one book (granted, something like 2,000 pages,) and it KICKS ASS. it's one of the most hilarious fucking things i've ever seen. terl is maybe my favorite villain of all time. oh, definitely! and one of the better ones. right, .chris? you know, mulligatawny is also a kind of pakistani soup. bet you can all rest easy now, knowing that. his pop-culture board game collection has always been one of my favorite things about quentin. not *even*!!! CARESS OF STEEL rocks! if there's a heavier heavy metal song than The Necromancer, i'd love to hear it. all the fegs are gonna scream, "yippie!" well, at least christopher, lj, and me. the four artists whose fan clubs i have been a member of: robyn, queensryche, dead milkmen, mister t experience. i inquired about smashing pumpkins once, but they wanted $30. i can't stop talking about queensryche all of a sudden! apparently, chris degarmo has left the band to go make a record with peter cornell. but they'd been together, same lineup, since '82. zz top for 28 years, though. that's just friggin' wild. i remember years ago at work one time, some customer was walking around, "jagermeister...opium-based high!...jagermeister... opium-based high!..." in a continuous loop. i mean, he was saying that phrase in a continuous loop, not walking around in circles. it was pretty funny. well, i've been wondering about the whole encore phenomenon. i guess the only real purpose of breaking the set into two parts anymore is to give the band a breather. (and, for robyn, to allow him time to change his shirt.) capuchin has told the story of having seen robyn once, when he was thoroughly pissed off at the world, and he just blitzed through the set, no stories, no chitchat, no encore. but i've never seen robyn not do one. and no boot that i've heard doesn't feature one. anybody know of any time when the crowd just wasn't into it enough for robyn to come out for an encore? conversely, has anybody ever been at a show when the audience was *so* into it that they forced robyn to come out again even after the house lights had been turned on? (if anyone was at that kennel club show, i think that may have been one occasion. he came back out for either the second or third encore, and said something like, "honestly, that's all i had for you. i've already played the one i *really* like to play..." (A Day In The Life.) and then solicited requests.) i *really* wanted him to come out again last month in frisco. the set, including the encore, was relatively short, and he and deni were just on fucking *fire.* strike while the iron's hot, you know? but i think the audience gives up too easily. oh, here's another thing i don't get, while i'm at it. is it some sort of concert etiquette to scream out bloody murder only after the first words of a song have been sung? what i mean is, it's obvious by the opening chords what the song is. why does everybody wait until he opens his mouth to go off like it's not only the last song before the armageddon, but that's *exactly* the one they wanted to hear, to boot? i hope that doesn't sound snooty, like, "oh, these imbeciles can't figure out what song this is until the singing starts." because it seems to me that, if they love the song as much as they're seeming to, then obviously they knew what it was all along. so there must be some other reason why they don't cheer out their ass until the singing starts. i am making just *no sense* at all, am i? well, fuck it. i'm too lazy to try to explain it better. "The Dude abides"...I don't know about you, but i take comfort in that. It's good knowin' he's out there, "The Dude," takin' 'er easy for all us sinners. Shesh...I sure hope he makes the finals. --The Stranger ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 12:56:43 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Yikes [adding to the Beach Boys debate] The below comment was posted to the exotica mailing list. Hollyridge Strings/Beatles over the real item?? Scary. Then again, I do own about six Hollyridge Strings records. ;) Eb =============== I have virtually no interest in the records I grew up with or once loved. They just hold no "ummph". I've been there. I only want to hear things I've never heard or things that evoke very vague memories. Or things I grew up with done in ways I would have shunned at the time. I'd pay more for the Hollyridge Strings doing the Doors - which I assume is only a fantasy record - than for any Doors record but that doesn't mean I think it would be a better record. The High Llamas were undoubtedly influenced by the Beach Boys but that doesn't make them the Beach Boys. I buy CD's now by bands who were influenced by the Beatles but I could die happy if I never heard another Beatles song by the Beatles. Beatle songs by the Hollyridge Strings, now that's another matter. And anyway I don't really like those later Beach Boy records as much as I sort of "respect" them. Yours stroking himself differently, Nat ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 19:27:06 EDT From: KarmaFuzzz Subject: 20 years and still not divorced/remarried/mistresses/etc. dwdudic@erols.com writes: > On Sat, 23 May 1998 09:39:06 -0400 (EDT), someone wrote: > > >I think INXS were together with the ame line-up for close to 20 > >years, too, weren't they? > > Midnight Oil STILL is, in australia... Midnight Oil changes lineup when they leave Australia? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 19:35:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: FegFest I keep trying to call you guys at the fegfest, but no-one picks up. It's getting really embarassing, leaving "Hello, is this the Quail"? messages on someone's answering machine. 1-717-732-6734 is the right number, right? (If it is, pick up the phones) Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 19:41:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Chris, the missing years." Subject: Re: "faraz can't even clean up his own ass yet." On Sat, 23 May 1998, Capitalism Blows wrote: > > oh, definitely! and one of the better ones. right, .chris? No, absolutely! And I seen no reason why *I* should be dragged into any discussion regarding Supertramp. Although, this notion of "concept" album is a relic of the seventies in no uncertain terms--what with a mass of pseudo-prog bands putting forth their ouevre [sp?]. Perhaps the best evolution of the "concept" album would be Spiritualized's fist two albums, Lazer Guided Melodies and Pure Phase. Other "concepts" albums, although less acessable, that might rank up there would be anything under the name Azuza Plane, including the album Tycho Magnetic Anomoly and the Full Consciousness of Hidden Harmony with the caption indicating that "all sounds on this CD originated from a Fender guitar." We could go on, but that would grow on all of us. But, really the concept album was cute long ago (if dog years), but is a bit worn (or dog eared). .chris (who is hoping that party works, i.e. it is really an event to get LJ off Oasis, or at least not mention it publicly, and then move south to help Terry through this Peter Tork Syndrome. ;) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 12:29:40 +2910 From: dlang Subject: Re: Very little >Danielle, hating the cover of 'Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking' with an indescribable passion, and wondering how Eb got this new nickname of Dave Lang's... 'Vinnie'? As in Barbarino? He wouldn't let me call him "Eb baby," but he gave the thumbs up to Vinnie, perhaps he will ellucidate sometime dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 23:11:25 -0400 From: tanter Subject: re: Vinnie Ah, the name of Emily Dickinson's beloved sister. Vinnie was as devoted to her sister as anyone could possibly be and forwent her own happiness for the sake of Emily. (that may be a bit of a stretch, but it sounds good!) I can imagine that Eb is proud to share the name with such an important person--Vinnie was the one who found Emily's poems after she died and instead of burning them, she brought them out and is responsible for our being able to know the great poet. Good choice, Eb!! Marcy :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 22:35:00 +2910 From: dlang Subject: Bloody fegfest. I just returned from the fegfest in a filthy mood. What a waste of time!. I spent six hours getting into trance state so I could astral travel from my place to the Quail shack. This is no mean feat in itself,as to get in the trance I had to repeat the chorus of "rock & roll Toilet" as a mantra for about six hours ,which i did in our dunny (toilet) because of the nice echo in there which allows me to get into the mood faster. I could hear the wife and kids banging on the door of the bog for the first hour or so, but after a while either they stopped or I got into a fugue and the next thing I know I'm in the body of the Cthulhu statue in the Quailhouse. Now I knew I might be onto a loser here from the start, as it was only my efforts to prevent mayhem that prompted me to actually get into the godhead, I mean with my powers I could have manifested into anything, one of the Quails old jockstraps, a fegtape, a bottle of liquor or some other popular item and that way I would really have seen the party in style. But muggins had to pick Cthulhu, what a total prannet! It took me some time or orientate myself for starters, as seeing through what Cthulhu has in the way of eyes is not exactly easy. The problem with being in a totally alien body of an impossibly ancient pan galactic godhead is that they have completely different ways of seeing to us, let alone thinking. I reckon Cthulhu must have at least 500 different modes of perception up against my dozen or so ( i know, I know, we mortals are supposed to have fewer than that but my friends of feg training has honed up a few extra which I've been keeping quiet about up till now) and it was bloody murder trying to work out which of its orifices did what and which bits heard, saw and smelt. After a bit I think I managed to sort out the hearing at least , as I started picking up a few noises and vague blurs that I think were Fegs, but christ knows, the way Cthulhu sees things is so freaking weird they could have been penguins for all I know, everything looked crystalline and the colours were strangely refracted and bent as though I was looking through a Kaleidoscope.. .Just trying to see and hear gave me a whopper headache. Eventually things began to make more sense and it appeared that I was in a room with various vague figures floating about. The mood was somewhat subdued as apparently Bayard and Gross had attempted to eat the contents of Jon Fetters parcel and had been rushed to hospital to have their stomach's pumped. Also the Quail's hamster ( on which he had been conducting some of his more grotesque experiments) had gotten out of its enclosure and had eaten half of bayard's Dat masters . So all in all , it wasn't really his day. Of Carl P, I saw neither hide nor hair, which made me even more flustered, as I've been confidently predicting the arrival of the little bleeder at the party for months. I reckon the silly sod had just got side-tracked in stalking that daft woman that Vinnie's s always rabbiting on about. So all in all it was real downer and then to cap it all, I heard Nat tell Quail just what she *did *say when Garcia died. The next thing I know the airs turning blue with epithets ( and I thought the Quail was a man of peace) and I'm grasped by what passes for my throat and I'm being waved in the air. Theres a god almighty crash and a female scream that's cut off in mid shout and my statue body shatters ( I hope not against Nats skull, but who knows, things were confused enough what with seeing through kaleidoscope eyes an all). I felt myself slipping out of the godheads body, but the last thing I heard was the sound of distant sirens and then everything turned black........ I came to on my toilet floor , feeling like I'd been put through the wringer. That's the last time I try to prevent one of the Quails plans. Perhaps another of the surrealistic posse can try , but then again if what I heard pans out then the Quail is probably up for murder one or assault and battery at least. But then knowing him, he'll wriggle out ofthe rap some way or another. well I'm off to drown my sorrows by listening to 10-4 -94 , Rh at the crocodile cafe . Perhaps we will find out just what happened tomorrow when they all get out of the slammer. dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 09:19:33 -0400 From: tanter Subject: re: fegfest I don't want to know about it, I don't want to read about it, I don't want to hear about it! The hourly police reports are almost more than I can bear! Marcy ;) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 May 98 15:19:00 bst From: "J.M. Brown H9602040" Subject: get with it Quail and co. It was about time some one took all you lot that have been droning on about concept albums down a peg or two. Thankyou Chris. This has been a great reason to bore us with tales of Jethro Tull, Genesis and Marillion but I'm sorry I do not see ANY connection here with Robyn Hitchcock. And this new thing about which band has been around with no line up changes for the longest is asking for the same sort of sad response. A case in point which really shows that some of us aren't really up on recent music was the crap responses to me suggesting Spiritualized having a concept album bent. Some one said that they only sing about drugs while the only other person who commented said that they specifically write music to take drugs to. I do not take drugs thankyou very much and I find Spiritualized to be one of the most refreshing bands to be in the public eye at present. There music is also infinately more listenable, no matter what state of mind you have, than Emerson, Lake and flipping Palmer! Julian ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #202 *******************************