From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #192 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, May 18 1998 Volume 07 : Number 192 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Essay on Robyn [Nur Gale ] Ram's Head [nicastr@idt.net (Ben)] RH Essay, Pt. 2 [Nur Gale ] Rutles [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: Rutles [Eb ] Re: Rutles [KarmaFuzzz ] Re: Rutles ["Coolio Iglesias" ] Re: Rutles [Eb ] Robyn in Mojo [Jonathan Turner ] RE: Robyn in Mojo ["BENJAMIN.BRETTENNY" ] My offerings to the FegGathering ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] On a hunt for Dan Bern..... [John B Jones ] Various [normal@grove.ufl.edu] Re: Robyn in Mojo [Viccicraig ] James' apt Sinatra statement [Sean Hennessey ] rain on the parade tirade [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Re: Robyn in Mojo ["Coolio Iglesias" ] Re: Sinatra [hal brandt ] Re: Rutles [Ross Overbury ] Re: James' apt Sinatra statement [nicastr@idt.net (Ben)] sinatra [Russ Reynolds ] Skoolz for Skumbagz ["JH3" ] Re: Robyn in Mojo [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 15:42:36 -0700 From: Nur Gale Subject: Essay on Robyn Don't know if this ever came up on the feg list before, but a friend lent me hir copy of Dimitri Ehrlich's "Inside the Music: Conversations with Contemporary Musicians about Spirituality, Creativity and Consciousness" (Shambala Press, 1997). Ehrlich is a music critic (called a journalist in the book's bio, but lets call an apple an apple -- the dude is a critic). One chapter is about Robyn entitled Death, Sex, Irony and Insects. Rather than reproduce the entire chapter, i will just post the direct quotes from Robyn -- as a free-lance critic myself i have a lot of issues with Ehrlich's selection and personal comments (some are just utterly stupid) on the musicians chosen (i can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would turn to Iggy Pop to have anything worthwhile to say on these topics). Anyway so here's stuff from Robyn (direct quotes only removed from the editors drivel -- too bad, i think its a great book theme, but Ehrlich doesn't present to me very much knowledge and sufficient background in the themes he is trying to address). So take it away Robyn!: Death is the last present that everyone unwraps. It's the one that they leave till midnight on Christmas day, but you have to unwrap it sometime. You can't leave the room without unwrapping it. It's the gift that everybody has to open but nobody asks for. I would have thought all songwriters would be writing about sex and death -- those are the two main concerns. Romantic love can be enduring or it can be fleeting. Love isn't a gift, whereas sex and death are gifts. Whether we love each other is a moot point. What is certain is that at the end of everyday we are one step closer to our own oblivion. We're all going to be kicked through that door, and no one has ever come back through it. Maybe Jesus did, but maybe he was something different when he came back, maybe it wasn't Jesus anymore. Who knows? Either way, that's not enough to make me get down and worship Jesus. I used to see all these pictures of wars in books my parents had lying around, these cartoons depictying skulls everywhere, and Hieronyus Bosch and stuff like that. I grew up in the shadow of the skull. But I think the other thing that you have to emphasize is that of all the musicians you have talked to, I have had the easiest life. I've probably had only one person who was close to me die in forty-three years, i've never been punched out, i've never been badly ill, i've never been financially destitute. i've had a very confortable existence. Stuff just filters through, doesn't it? You live and it comes out in your work. It's in your handwriting. But what really matters is your state of mind when you die. You might have lived quite an evil life but never realized it; you might die a contented person because nothing has ever challenged your way of behaving. Or you might have been a good person, but you still are dissatisfied with yourself. So i'm interested whether there is some point where you pass through the vale and they show you what you really were like. I've always thought that when you die perhaps your consciousness is played back to you and you have to judge it. My theory is that humanity is doomed unless we make some kind of evolutionary leap. I can't see us going around and around in the same agonies indefinitely. As technology improves, sooner or later the whole thing will rub itself out, or we will rub it out, in which case we'll probably take everything else with us. I believe that the earth is a form of intelligence. It's Gaia, which is life, or God, if you know what i mean. It isn't a moral sort of thing; it's just that generally life works itself out. Gaia is the idea that the whole world is a living intelligent organism. Nature generally manages to regulate itself, but every so often some thing crops up like the human that doens't really fit in. i think something will physically evolve in us. In my story, i suggest that its a third eye opening -- that the skin on your forehead rips open and new eyeball pokes through, and with that new eyeball you can really see and empathize with other people. It's kind of what everybody thought they were doing with drugs, although in fact, the drugs are only making them more remote, more selfish, more paranoid. If the true empathy were made manifest, then when somebody cut their knee, everybody would feel it. It wouldn't be complete loss of identity, but people would start to buoy each other up. They'd be able to sympathize with each other a lot more, and maybe cure each other's cancer. [i'm going to take a break; more quotes in the next post] Nur ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 23:40:49 -0500 From: nicastr@idt.net (Ben) Subject: Ram's Head What was the date for the (Robyn Hitchcock) show at the Ram's Head? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 20:53:25 -0700 From: Nur Gale Subject: RH Essay, Pt. 2 Here are the remaining quotes from the interview with RH appearing in Dimitri Ehrlich's "Inside the Music": i've got a song where i say, "We are all different versions of the same thing." i'd love to believe that, but there are many people who are so hostile i can't even believe that they are the same species as me. i look at a fascist kid or something, and i think these creatures are not my species. i think there has got to be a physical change, and when this happens most of our art will become irrelevant. Things like Shakespeare's and Dostoevsky's writings won't mean anything because we won't be in that same kind of pain that humanity was in when those words wee written. i think that the more brutality i'm aware of, the more i appreciate what beauty is. Does that mean we need insane extremes to keep us upright? i don't really know. If i am disturbed by sex, or revolted by the body, maybe it's because i was shocked for such a long time by even being in a body. For the first thirty-five to forty years, it was quite a shock; you know, what am i doing in this incarnation? Maybe i have moved beyond that existentialist phase now, but we don't really know if there's anybody in our body or not. We don't know if we are supposed to exist or not. Our bodies may be valuable condos that we've queued up for millennia to inhabit, for which we've given some cosmic realtor so many karmic credits. So maybe we did ask to be born, in which case we should have some respect for the existence that we have. It's certainly worth it to value what you've got, even in the midst of bewailing what you have. i'm a very religious person, i just don't worship at any particular shrine. i think specific gods are a substitute for your parents. When you're little, you can hold up your hand and someone big will reach down and hold it. As you get bigger, there's nobody to reach up to anymore, and this has freaked people out over the generations. So they've invented Jehovah and Christ and Allah and Odin and Sol and Hecated and God knows how many of them, and they try and placate these gods, just like kids try to please their parents when they're mad at them. But the sacredness that's implicit in religion is very important. Although it's inevitable that most of the world's major religions are in decline except for fundamentalism, the sense of sacredness is really important. Life is sacred, life is magical, life is beyond our understanding. Life comes from something we don't know and is going somewhere we cannot get to yet. But humans, if anything can be said for us, have got prying minds, and we'll keep jumping up and down until we can see over the fence and find out what's there. i don't know what i'm really doing with my life as a musician. Music just points you somewhere and you have to follow it. It used to be just entertainment, and then this stuff came up in the sixties about singers being philosopher kings and shamans. They were supposed to be so much more than just singers. I grew up in those times, and although i knew that ultimately they were just sexy looking guys in tight trousers who had a way with words, i felt that people like Dylan and Lennon and Jim Morrison still stumbled across the truth in some way. i never wanted to be a god, becuase i don't think humans can stand that. Humans are mortal, they exist in time and they crack. If you achieved godhood, it wouldn't be through becoming a pop star, because in the end you will fall, just as they've all fallen. You know, rock stars are all there on sufferance. They're there because they're making billions for the record company and the management and so they're allowed to have a few million for themselves. They're allowed to exist because they generate money for the business. The truth is i'm not sure if i'm a philosopher or a comedian, but i love music, and little bits of my philosophy must drip through into what i play. I should probably meditate and get the third eye going, but i think i'm evolving some understanding of the universe, i think i'm beginning to get an idea. I think you crash into things and by crashing into things, you realize where they are. Eventually you realize where everything is and you avoid falling out of the window every time you want to go to the bathroom. That's all folks.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 15:47:16 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Rutles >Eb, who personally likes the Dukes album a hair better than the Rutles >album, though they're both wonderful can you or anyone else tell me what the second Rutles album (Archaeology) is like? Is it as thorough a send up, or is it more in the Dukes Pastiche vein? And is it any good? >The "25 O'Clock" mini-lp is the real view from the >windowpane. even the cover of the mini-album is a pisstake (spelt pastiche ;) of the cover of Disraeli Gears! James PS - am I the only one who thinks it's odd that when a message comes in saying that Sinatra died and the final episode of Seinfeld sucked, 99% of the replies were about Seinfeld? It's a show - the actors will go on to other things, and y7ou'll get to see more of their work. But ol' blue eyes is gone for good. I think that's more worthy of comment, and hell, I wasn't even a fan! PPS - 2-0! Parlour was magic! James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 22:13:19 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Rutles >>Eb, who personally likes the Dukes album a hair better than the Rutles >>album, though they're both wonderful > >can you or anyone else tell me what the second Rutles album (Archaeology) >is like? Is it as thorough a send up, or is it more in the Dukes Pastiche >vein? And is it any good? I was really disappointed in Rutles album#2. It's hard to explain why -- I dunno, the music has much less of a sharp edge and doesn't have as many specific allusions/in-jokes as the first album. The satire isn't nearly as clever. The production/arrangements are way too slick and sugary too -- the disc has a strange feel, almost like it's a children's record. It's OK and worth getting, but it's nowhere near on a level with the original record. Maybe the missing Eric Idle is the difference. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 02:34:59 EDT From: KarmaFuzzz Subject: Re: Rutles james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz writes: > PS - am I the only one who thinks it's odd that when a message comes in > saying that Sinatra died and the final episode of Seinfeld sucked, 99% of > the replies were about Seinfeld? It's a show - the actors will go on to > other things, and you'll get to see more of their work. But ol' blue eyes > is gone for good. I think that's more worthy of comment, and hell, I wasn't > even a fan! i was preferred Nat King Cole myself.....seriously, i think it's because Sinatra basically died of old age, and had pretty much disappeared from public view for the last 18 or so months. so we knew the end of that story; we were just waiting for it to be official. we knew Seinfeld was leaving the air, but we didn't know the last chapter yet, and obviously a lot of people were startled/upset by it (personally, i think it was the perfect idea, but the script could have used another rewrite; series finales are almost always somewhat mediocre anyways; it's just the nature of the beast). whereas we knew that Sinatra was going to die very soon, and that was all that was left for him to do, since he health was by all accounts quite poor. i assume it'll be the same when Reagan dies in July or whatever, but if say Jimmy Carter (sorry for over-Americanizing here) got hit in the head with a hammer tomorrow building a house and dies, it'll provoke a much bigger reaction, even though he was less popular, merely because we're expecting Reagan to go anytime now, whereas we expect Carter to be around for several more years. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 00:53:39 -0700 From: "Coolio Iglesias" Subject: Re: Rutles Eb dixit: > Maybe the missing Eric Idle is the difference. I didn't think that Eric Idle even appeared on the original album. Or are you simply referring to the influence he had over that album? - -g- - ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- Glen Uber uberg@sonic.net "Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible." --Frank Zappa - ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 01:00:24 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Rutles >Eb dixit: > >> Maybe the missing Eric Idle is the difference. > >I didn't think that Eric Idle even appeared on the original album. Or >are you simply referring to the influence he had over that album? Yeah. He furnished the whole backstory, and kinda gave the songwriting a conceptual foundation. The new album's backstory is quite lame, by comparison. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 13:03:24 +0000 From: Jonathan Turner Subject: Robyn in Mojo Robyn gets his now-traditional little mention in the new issue of Mojo - the one with Peter Buck and Brian Wilson on the cover, though I don't suppose that will help you pick it out from most other issues of Mojo. It's the June issue you want. It says that he's recorded some tracks with Kimberley Rew for the next studio album (presumably this includes "Adoration of the City" - recorded late last year near the green flyover), and is recording a song for the soundtrack of "Judas Kiss" - anyone know anything about this ? The only "Judas Kiss" I know is the recent London stage show, starring a rather one-dimensional Liam Neeson as Oscar Wilde, but I think Mojo were referring to a film (sorry, I don't have the Mojo with me). Cheers, Jonathan. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 14:30:31 +0100 (BST) From: "BENJAMIN.BRETTENNY" Subject: RE: Robyn in Mojo In one of the early Mojo's wasent there an article on Robyn/Softboys at the time of '76-81' being released. I had been trying in vain to get hold of it for some time and forgot about it until my memory was jogged by a recent mail to the list. Did anyone put some/all of it on the list? Does any one have it on disk? Do any UK Fegs have it, and if so for an incentive of your choice would you be prepared to photocopy it and post it to me? Mojo i think, have sold out of that particular back issue, probably some time ago. I hope someone can help. BEN ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 10:30:12 -0400 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: My offerings to the FegGathering Hello fellow FegGatherers. In addition to the requested mix tape, I can bring other goodies to Quail's shindig. Specifically, I can bring nice cassette copies of the "Mossy Liquor" album replete with sundry b-sides. I can also bring dubbed copies of the "Brenda of the Lightbulb Eyes" and "Gotta Let This Hen Out" videos. If you'd like me to bring you a copy of said items, contact me privately via email and we'll work out a trade. ...still dealing with Sinatra's death... Sinatra is dead. Long live Sinatra! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 07:52:55 -0700 From: John B Jones Subject: On a hunt for Dan Bern..... Fegs-- I am on a quest for 3 tapes of material that Dan Bern released (sold at his shows) prior to his record deal with Work/Sony. Each of them has a color name written on the spine. 1993-- Blue 1995-- White 1995-- Beige If anyone has these tapes, or a dub of any of these, and would like to do a trade, please get in touch. LJ--If you are doing better on your quest than I am (weren't you looking for these as well???) than drop me a line. Please, help! - -jbj - -*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-# John B. Jones Email: lobstie@e-z.net ICQ: 8301543 AOL IM: Lobstie House of Figgy-- http://web.syr.edu/~jojones/hitchcock.html "He treats objects like they're women!" -The Dude, "The Big Lebowski" - -*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-# ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 10:52:21 -0400 (EDT) From: normal@grove.ufl.edu Subject: Various 1) I was reading a "Peanuts" book and found myself looking for technical errors in Schroeder's music. I think that that's as bad as it gets. (But, I mean, he says his piano only has the black keys painted on, but then he plays an A-flat. And another time the piece was in 3/4 but the time signature given was 3/8! Can you believe that? ;) 2) I'm trying to think of a radio show whose very name is synonymous with badness, something that is mentioned in tones usually reserved for "My Mother the Car", "Plan Nine from Outer Space", "The Love Boat" or suchlike. (Looking for one of the old-time AM radio shows that fits this description, mind you. Not recent FM.) 3) I don't believe that The Firesign Theatre has been mentioned on this list, so I'm mentioning them now. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 11:32:21 EDT From: Viccicraig Subject: Re: Robyn in Mojo In a message dated 98-05-18 08:15:05 EDT, jturner@rpms.ac.uk writes: >and is recording a >song for the soundtrack of "Judas Kiss" - anyone know >anything about this ? The only "Judas Kiss" I know >is the recent London stage show, starring a rather >one-dimensional Liam Neeson as Oscar Wilde, but >I think Mojo were referring to a film (sorry, I don't >have the Mojo with me). > >Cheers, > >Jonathan. > > > you can find info (very limted) about Judas Kiss at: http://194.72.66.120/empire/TRACK/JudasKiss.htm looks like another emma thompson thingy well, at least i will probably buy the soundtrack even if the movie sounds absurd ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 11:30:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Sean Hennessey Subject: James' apt Sinatra statement > PS - am I the only one who thinks it's odd that when a message comes in > saying that Sinatra died and the final episode of Seinfeld sucked, 99% of > the replies were about Seinfeld? It's a show - the actors will go on to > other things, and y7ou'll get to see more of their work. But ol' blue eyes > is gone for good. I think that's more worthy of comment, and hell, I wasn't > even a fan! I thought I was the only one who noticed this. Fan or no, a person who has changed more lives that just about any pop singer you can name has passed, and he's been over shadowed by a f*cking telly show?!? And a shite one at that (I loved the series, mind). Sinatra has a body of work that's absolutely amazing, and in one thing he's lucky it's that he'll be remembered for that. He was a great man (if often not a always a good one, *if* you believe the rumours), and I think it's appaling that his passing gets so little respect. Sorry to get on it like that, but I heard more laments for singers of minor-cult punk bands (which are a tragedy, yes) on this list. And keep in mind, the man have hated rock 'n roll, but he said that the Beatles' Something was one of the most beautiful songs he'd ever heard... > PPS - 2-0! Parlour was magic! No, N'castle was rubbish. tara - Sean ******************************************************************************* Sean Hennessey, President of Boston Reds, http://members.tripod.com/~boston_reds/red_army.html Member and co-admin of the Red Devils list: red-devils@pipeline.com e-mail: suggs@tiac.net or giggs@tiac.net ICQ: 9288628 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 10:07:33 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: rain on the parade tirade Today's sunny memories through the rose shades of kinder and gentler thousands of points of light were somewhat clotted by the drizzly presence of one Mark Gloster who, despite his desire to appear good and kind to y'all, could contain his metaphor blender drink no longer from spewing out of his fingers like a geezer of frozen buttermilk through the canyons of your mind.... Sorry folks. I really think I need to do this. I will admit that some of what Frank Snotra did helped to revolutionize popular music in the mainstream, though Bing Crosby (another trainwreck of a human being) was nearly equally responsible. Frank was probably endowed with a pretty good voice, too (Bing's was better and he sang _in the same key as the band_!) On the other hand, Frank S. also may be held responsible for the popularity of singing flat and with alcohol-injected timing. I hate to make a big deal out of this, but he never seemed to make an effort to make it to pitch, even when orchestras would try to tune down to him. His bands must have been great to deal with his liberties with time and space and frequency. He had every opportunity to care for his voice and improve it, but didn't bother. The only time he showed much interest in doing so was after he shredded his vocal chords. He probably was actually better after that. On the humanitarian front he was a mixed bag. He gave money anonymously to charities, but he also made sure that people knew about it. He would also often threaten people with bodily harm. He was pretty well-connected on that later front. He couldn't even get a gambling license in Nevada because of his mob ties. I guess the fact that he's been circling the drain for a while, and has already had so many glorifications made of him, has caused me to feel a little ill during this time of only hearing how beautiful he sang, what a perfect guy he was, and how great his voice remained. I don't think that it necessarily serves us to only speak well of the departed. I didn't say nice things about Elvis, either, and I still stand by those as well. I don't think Elvis was as menacing to others, since he mostly brought harm to himself. Somehow, all of this mistyness is reminding me of an ex-American president whose personal adjective was transformed in death from "scumbag-crook-dirtball" to "controversial." Please forgive the rant. I probably won't let myself get pulled into a fight about this. Feel free to bring up your negative feelings about me at my wake, which is hopefully a long time from now. I will do what I can to provide more opportunities for you to build on those feelings in the future. All the best to you, ciao for now... - -Mark Gloster really missing Frank _ZAPPA_ today and hoping somebody will play the Sid Vicious version of "My Way" to get this taste out of my ears. ps. yea, I sing flat too sometimes, but I'll never be Frank Sinatra, Natalie Cole, Simon LeBonduranduran... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 10:19:52 -0700 From: "Coolio Iglesias" Subject: Re: Robyn in Mojo Jonathan Turner dixit: > It says that he's recorded some tracks with Kimberley > Rew for the next studio album (presumably this > includes "Adoration of the City" - recorded late last > year near the green flyover), and is recording a > song for the soundtrack of "Judas Kiss" - anyone know > anything about this ? The only "Judas Kiss" I know > is the recent London stage show, starring a rather > one-dimensional Liam Neeson as Oscar Wilde, but > I think Mojo were referring to a film (sorry, I don't > have the Mojo with me). At the Great American Music Halll Show in SF, Robyn mentioned that "Arms of Love" was going to be on the soundtrack of the "new Mira Sorvino film". This is the only thing I've heard about anything of Robyn's appearing on a soundtrack. - -g- - ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- Glen Uber uberg@sonic.net "Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible." --Frank Zappa - ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 11:25:12 -0600 From: hal brandt Subject: Re: Sinatra Sean Hennessey wrote: > And keep in mind, the man have hated rock 'n roll, but he said that the > Beatles' Something was one of the most beautiful songs he'd ever heard... He also said it was his "favorite Lennon/McCartney song". But who has time for songwriting credits when there's booze, broads and meetings with Sam Giancana to be had?! /hal ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 98 10:21:20 EDT From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: Rutles > > PS - am I the only one who thinks it's odd that when a message comes in > saying that Sinatra died and the final episode of Seinfeld sucked, 99% of > the replies were about Seinfeld? It's a show - the actors will go on to > other things, and y7ou'll get to see more of their work. But ol' blue eyes > is gone for good. I think that's more worthy of comment, and hell, I wasn't > even a fan! > The Seinfeld show was a bigger part of my life. I saw it perhaps 6 times a year. I always thought Sinatra was to singing what John Wayne was to acting. I wonder what opinions we might have heard about Linda McCartney if her name were brought up here a year ago? I restrained myself when I read the LM thread. Why bother throwing stinkbombs at the Linda love-in? - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 15:11:32 -0500 From: nicastr@idt.net (Ben) Subject: Re: James' apt Sinatra statement >I thought I was the only one who noticed this. Fan or no, a person who >has changed more lives that just about any pop singer you can name has >passed, and he's been over shadowed by a f*cking telly show?!? And a >shite one at that (I loved the series, mind). Sinatra has a body of work >that's absolutely amazing, and in one thing he's lucky it's that he'll be >remembered for that. He was a great man (if often not a always a good >one, *if* you believe the rumours), and I think it's appaling that his >passing gets so little respect. > >Sorry to get on it like that, but I heard more laments for singers of >minor-cult punk bands (which are a tragedy, yes) on this list. > >And keep in mind, the man have hated rock 'n roll, but he said that the >Beatles' Something was one of the most beautiful songs he'd ever heard... I think most people on the list don't care about the death of Frank Sinatra because the guy was a scumbag. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 98 12:36:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: sinatra ben opined: >I think most people on the list don't care about the death of Frank Sinatra >because the guy was a scumbag. I like scumbags. I'd venture to say that scumbags make up a sizeable chunk of my record collection. I'm thinking about becoming a scumbag myself someday. Is there a trade school maybe? - -russ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 15:25:54 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Skoolz for Skumbagz russ rote: >I'm thinking about becoming a scumbag myself >someday. Is there a trade school maybe? I think Microsoft runs one, but it's supposed to be mostly for their marketing people... - -JH3 n.p. new Sonic Youth CD - quite strikingly good, I must say ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 13:27:31 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Robyn in Mojo Ross rote: >I wonder what opinions we might have heard about Linda McCartney if her >name were brought up here a year ago? I restrained myself when I read >the LM thread. Why bother throwing stinkbombs at the Linda love-in? Ehhh...you know, for all the post-death Linda love, I don't think everyone applied any revisionist spin to her musical abilities. All the obituaries basically boiled down her musical career to "And she and Paul were so close that he even asked her to tour in his band!" BTW, after her death, Howard Stern played that infamous isolated-voice "Hey Jude" bootleg. Wow -- I had never heard that before. Pretty hilarious. :) Someone else wrote: >Robyn gets his now-traditional little mention in the new >issue of Mojo - the one with Peter Buck and Brian Wilson >on the cover, though I don't suppose that will help you >pick it out from most other issues of Mojo. It's the June >issue you want. Speaking of Brian Wilson, I saw a release schedule on the Web which said the new Brian Wilson album will be released June 16th!! Can this be true???? Baitedbreathedly, Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #192 *******************************