From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #190 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, May 16 1998 Volume 07 : Number 190 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Late-night bulletin [Eb ] Re: Late-night bulletin [Capuchin ] Re: Late-night bulletin [BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper)] Re: Late-night bulletin [Capuchin ] Re: Late-night bulletin [Sean Hennessey ] Re: Late-night bulletin [fred is ted ] Parodies ["Marilyn Hanson" ] Re: Late-night bulletin [MARKEEFE ] Re: Late-night bulletin [BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper)] Re: Late-night bulletin [Eb ] Re: Late-night bulletin [BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper)] seinfeld cast [tanter ] Re: Late-night bulletin [Capuchin ] Re: Seinfeld [nicastr@idt.net (Ben)] Seinfeld [Eb ] Seinfeld [Ross Overbury ] Re: Seinfeld [Viccicraig ] Wasn't someone hunting for...? [Eb ] Re: Late-night bulletin/the real elaine... [KarmaFuzzz Subject: Late-night bulletin Sinatra died. (And so did the Seinfeld finale.) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 00:52:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Late-night bulletin On Fri, 15 May 1998, Eb wrote: > Sinatra died. Saw that. Weird. I guess it was supposed to happen quite a while ago. One more person I'm never going to meet. Too bad. > (And so did the Seinfeld finale.) Boyo, that was awful... and I LIKE Seinfeld. That was probably the worst episode ever. My friend Karen and I watched and tried very hard to pay attention to a show that did nothing to entertain. Bah. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 00:09:55 -0900 From: BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper) Subject: Re: Late-night bulletin Capuchin wrote: >Boyo, that was awful... and I LIKE Seinfeld. That was probably the worst >episode ever. My friend Karen and I watched and tried very hard to pay >attention to a show that did nothing to entertain. Bah. Apparently no one gets it, then. Can't you see that this leaves the entire storyline open for future reunion episodes or, who knows, a full-feature film. This is a classic way of ending TV shows (i.e. Dallas, The Prisoner, Quantum Leap). Leave them hanging! I'm pretty sure that this isn't the end for Seinfeld; merely a change of direction. Brett ************************************************************** Cooper Collections P.O. Box 876462 Wasilla, Alaska 99687 (907) 376-4520 BC-Radio@corecom.net http://www.corecom.net/~no6pp/Cooper_Collections.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 04:21:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Late-night bulletin On Fri, 15 May 1998, Brett Cooper wrote: > Apparently no one gets it, then. Can't you see that this leaves the entire > storyline open for future reunion episodes or, who knows, a full-feature > film. It wasn't the ending that was disappointing... I really liked that scene before last with the four of them in the cell. That "Haven't we had this conversation before?" line was pretty brilliantly executed and I think did a very good job of showing how ridiculous and self-involved that little group truly is. I think the focus of the show on the self-interest and callous disregard for others that they've displayed over the years makes them actually really unpleasant folks. All that was just dandy. That flashback thing was moronic because they had a retrospective BEFORE the episode aired. I didn't need a flashback finale. But really I was just saying that it wasn't funny. I didn't laugh really at all but for maybe twice whereas most other episodes give me one big fat laugh somewhere and several good little ones. > This is a classic way of ending TV shows (i.e. Dallas, The Prisoner, > Quantum Leap). Leave them hanging! > I'm pretty sure that this isn't the end for Seinfeld; merely a change of > direction. OH YEAH! Those comeback episodes/films/second series of Dallas, The Prisoner and Quantum Leap are classics! I'm glad those things didn't end production completely after their season finales! And the way they tied seamlessly with the "closing" episodes of the original series was inspired, bordering on the divine! Yeah. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 10:34:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Sean Hennessey Subject: Re: Late-night bulletin Hey all, > On Fri, 15 May 1998, Eb wrote: > > Sinatra died. > Saw that. Weird. I guess it was supposed to happen quite a while ago. > One more person I'm never going to meet. Too bad. The most gutting news I've heard in awhile (non-football that is, James, don't laugh). My flatmate told me this as I was going to work. Had to grab my Sinatra and Sextet Live in Paris for work. The man was, well, is still in a way, an absolute icon. Difficult to think of a world without him. Even though his singing seemed to turn into talking towards the end, I have to say that the world is a little lesser for it's loss... tara - Sean ******************************************************************************* Sean Hennessey, President of Boston Reds, http://members.tripod.com/~boston_reds/red_army.html Member and co-admin of the Red Devils list: red-devils@pipeline.com e-mail: suggs@tiac.net or giggs@tiac.net ICQ: 9288628 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 09:44:58 -0700 (PDT) From: fred is ted Subject: Re: Late-night bulletin - ---Capuchin wrote: > > > On Fri, 15 May 1998, Brett Cooper wrote: > > Apparently no one gets it, then. Can't you see that this leaves the entire > > storyline open for future reunion episodes or, who knows, a full-feature > > film. > > It wasn't the ending that was disappointing... I really liked that scene > before last with the four of them in the cell. That "Haven't we had this > conversation before?" line was pretty brilliantly executed and I think did > a very good job of showing how ridiculous and self-involved that little > group truly is. I think the focus of the show on the self-interest and > callous disregard for others that they've displayed over the years makes > them actually really unpleasant folks. All that was just dandy. > > That flashback thing was moronic because they had a retrospective BEFORE > the episode aired. I didn't need a flashback finale. > > But really I was just saying that it wasn't funny. I didn't laugh really > at all but for maybe twice whereas most other episodes give me one big fat > laugh somewhere and several good little ones. > > > This is a classic way of ending TV shows (i.e. Dallas, The Prisoner, > > Quantum Leap). Leave them hanging! > > I'm pretty sure that this isn't the end for Seinfeld; merely a change of > > direction. > > OH YEAH! Those comeback episodes/films/second series of Dallas, The > Prisoner and Quantum Leap are classics! I'm glad those things didn't end > production completely after their season finales! And the way they tied > seamlessly with the "closing" episodes of the original series was > inspired, bordering on the divine! > > Yeah. > J. > Perfect read on all counts, J. Quantum Leap? Quantum Leap??? Yikes! Farewell Francis Albert. He was truly devoted to his craft. Ted _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 10:40:55 -0700 From: "Marilyn Hanson" Subject: Parodies fred is ted dixit: > The Dukes of Stratosphear were NOT a goof, unlike the Rutles. IMO, > they were a vehicle for XTC to express themselves via a more > artificial, "engineered" sound, a direction they had taken for some > time. The previous XTC disc, "Skylarking," was produced by Todd > Rundgren, notorious indeed for his studio tricks. > For another great Beatles parody check out _Deface The Music_ by Utopia (produced by and featuring Todd Rundgren). You can probably find it in the vinyl bargain bins for a couple bucks. - -g-, from California, where a man who plays with his own feces is considered competent enough to be executed. - ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- Glen Uber uberg@sonic.net "Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible." --Frank Zappa - ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 14:15:01 EDT From: MARKEEFE Subject: Re: Late-night bulletin In a message dated 98-05-15 04:15:29 EDT, you write: << >Boyo, that was awful... and I LIKE Seinfeld. That was probably the worst >episode ever. My friend Karen and I watched and tried very hard to pay >attention to a show that did nothing to entertain. Bah. Apparently no one gets it, then. Can't you see that this leaves the entire storyline open for future reunion episodes or, who knows, a full-feature film. This is a classic way of ending TV shows (i.e. Dallas, The Prisoner, Quantum Leap). Leave them hanging! I'm pretty sure that this isn't the end for Seinfeld; merely a change of direction. >> I'm with Jeme and Eb. . . super lame episode. Abominably bad TV. I didn't see it as a cliffhanger at all, and I doubt that "Seinfeld" will ever be revived. How can you even have a cliffhanger in a show about nothing? The only reason I continued to watch the show during the whole horrifyingly drawn- out courtroom sequence is so I'd know how it ended and, thereby, be hip to a useless bit of "watercooler" trivia. Used to love that show, but, for me, it ran out of gas a couple of years ago and went out not with a bang but a groan. Oh well. It's just TV. - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:05:15 -0900 From: BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper) Subject: Re: Late-night bulletin Markeefe wrote: > I'm with Jeme and Eb. . . super lame episode. Abominably bad TV. I >didn't see it as a cliffhanger at all, and I doubt that "Seinfeld" will ever >be revived. How can you even have a cliffhanger in a show about nothing? The >only reason I continued to watch the show during the whole horrifyingly drawn- >out courtroom sequence is so I'd know how it ended and, thereby, be hip to a >useless bit of "watercooler" trivia. Used to love that show, but, for me, it >ran out of gas a couple of years ago and went out not with a bang but a groan. I never used the word "cliffhanger." But what I did say was that it leaves the storyline open for future installments, in whatever form they may come in. I'm fairly confident that if you give it about five or six years, you'll see TV reunion episodes or possibly a film. Think about it; a film, even with a horrendous storyline featuring the cast of Seinfeld, would be a guaranteed box office hit simply because of what it is. >Oh well. It's just TV. True, but to some, it was more. Brett ************************************************************** Cooper Collections P.O. Box 876462 Wasilla, Alaska 99687 (907) 376-4520 BC-Radio@corecom.net http://www.corecom.net/~no6pp/Cooper_Collections.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 13:32:56 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Late-night bulletin BCed: >I'm fairly confident that if you give it about five or six years, >you'll see TV reunion episodes or possibly a film. Think about it; a film, >even with a horrendous storyline featuring the cast of Seinfeld, would be a >guaranteed box office hit simply because of what it is. TV reunion? Highly unlikely. Film? Never in a million years. The cast is smart enough to know that milking the show further would taint its hallowed place in history. I do think it's possible that we'll see a Kramer spinoff, which for me explains the gang's anticlimactic one-year jail sentence. So NBC takes a year developing a new vehicle for Kramer, and in another season...pow! "KRAMER -- FREE AT LAST! Thursday night at 8:00." Perfect. Built-in hype. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:47:22 -0900 From: BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper) Subject: Re: Late-night bulletin Eb said in regards to Seinfeld: >TV reunion? Highly unlikely. Film? Never in a million years. The cast is >smart enough to know that milking the show further would taint its hallowed >place in history. Possibly. But I am simply going off of what I have seen in the past. Like I said, give the show a rest for five or six years, and who knows? >I do think it's possible that we'll see a Kramer spinoff, which for me >explains the gang's anticlimactic one-year jail sentence. So NBC takes a >year developing a new vehicle for Kramer, and in another season...pow! >"KRAMER -- FREE AT LAST! Thursday night at 8:00." Perfect. Built-in hype. I don't know. For me, Kramer doesn't seem like the obvious choice. He would be weakened by the loss of the others, who I suppose if your theory works, could make guest cameos from time to time on the show. Brett ************************************************************** Cooper Collections P.O. Box 876462 Wasilla, Alaska 99687 (907) 376-4520 BC-Radio@corecom.net http://www.corecom.net/~no6pp/Cooper_Collections.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 18:57:03 -0400 From: tanter Subject: seinfeld cast I can't see any of them coming back. Julia Louise Dreyfus said that she doesn't want to do tv any more, she wants to do broadway. she's a mom now and tv takes up too much time when you have a family. Michael Richards said that Kramer was very difficult to do-- a lot of physical stuff that was tiring. Jason Alexander wants to go back to Broadway and as for Jerry, well, who knows. I think they were right to stop. This last season was great but last year's was dull. Ah well, I suppose it's time for a new show.... Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 16:27:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Late-night bulletin On Fri, 15 May 1998, Eb wrote: > TV reunion? Highly unlikely. Film? Never in a million years. The cast is > smart enough to know that milking the show further would taint its hallowed > place in history. This is completely true. They know too well that their hold on one of those "greatest TV comedies of all time" is pretty tenuous and can be lost and dated if people inspect too closely in the future. So yeah... no reunions. However, Jerry Seinfeld's head sure is bloated! I saw his bit on Leno where he said he didn't give his stuff to the Smithsonian (even though they asked for it) because he couldn't get a guarantee that it'd be on permanent display! Can you believe that? Sheesh. > I do think it's possible that we'll see a Kramer spinoff, which for me > explains the gang's anticlimactic one-year jail sentence. So NBC takes a > year developing a new vehicle for Kramer, and in another season...pow! > "KRAMER -- FREE AT LAST! Thursday night at 8:00." Perfect. Built-in hype. Well, Jerry also said on Leno that he was the only one whose storyline continues after the show... there's no point in asking "What happened to Kramer?" or whatever because nothing happened (Just like Douglas Adams said to people who asked "What happened when Arthur and that girl are left on the hilltop on ancient Earth after the sun went down?", "The book ended.")... but Jerry is still Jerry and his life continues the show, he says. Whatever. Anyway, I'd've pegged Elaine to be the big spinoff... mostly because Julia Luis-Dreyfuss has had a spotty career up until Seinfeld and it behooves her to keep that role for a while. Elain also has the most interesting and established side-characters in her life (Peterman, Pitt, Sue Ellen Mischke, Puddy, Crazy Joe Davola, etc.) as well as the possibility of bringing in all the others in little cameos. There are also all kinds of references to people and things Elaine has to do that have nothing to do with Jerry & co. that imply she has a second life... maybe it's about something? Maybe it's interesting. Maybe it's funny. I'm sure developers at NBC are asking themselves the same questions while trying to figure out just how much money it takes to make Julia turn her back on her family for a couple of years. I can't believe I wrote this. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 20:44:41 -0500 From: nicastr@idt.net (Ben) Subject: Re: Seinfeld >I do think it's possible that we'll see a Kramer spinoff, which for me >explains the gang's anticlimactic one-year jail sentence. So NBC takes a >year developing a new vehicle for Kramer, and in another season...pow! >"KRAMER -- FREE AT LAST! Thursday night at 8:00." Perfect. Built-in hype. I heard that Jerry won't allow any "Seinfeld" spinoffs. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 18:10:35 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Seinfeld Check this site out: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/d/r/drl146/seinfeld/main.html Funny. :) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 98 21:27:29 EDT From: Ross Overbury Subject: Seinfeld OK then, since nobody's willing to discuss anything else today... I was sure the NBC plane was going to be forced to land in the water just off an uncharted desert isle. Think of the hilarious new adventures they could have as they try to make the best of things as stranded castaways! The pilot could survive, adding a new and exciting twist to the interpersonal dynamics. He could wear his captain's hat all the time, the last vestige of his lost authority, and try to guide the others in their uphill climb. He takes George under his wing, calling him "little buddy". The last radio message the send before the plane sinks forever into the ocean is heard only by Newman, who appears on the island a couple of times a season and leads them to believe he's going to save them, only to slip away at the last minute leaving them ... stranded again. It could go on for years and years. - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 22:34:37 EDT From: Viccicraig Subject: Re: Seinfeld In a message dated 98-05-15 21:39:01 EDT, rosso@sceast.cn.ca writes: >OK then, since nobody's willing to discuss anything else today... > >I was sure the NBC plane was going to be forced to land in the water >just off an uncharted desert isle. > >Think of the hilarious new adventures they could have as they try to >make the best of things as stranded castaways! The pilot could survive, >adding a new and exciting twist to the interpersonal dynamics. >He could wear his captain's hat all the time, the last vestige >of his lost authority, and try to guide the others in their uphill >climb. He takes George under his wing, calling him "little buddy". > >The last radio message the send before the plane sinks forever into >the ocean is heard only by Newman, who appears on the island a couple >of times a season and leads them to believe he's going to save them, >only to slip away at the last minute leaving them ... stranded again. > >It could go on for years and years. > > > >-- >Ross Overbury >Montreal, Quebec, Canada >email: rosso@cn.ca > okay now i am frightened, everything else sounded ummm too halfbaked, this sounds like something they could have actually done...... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 23:24:10 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Wasn't someone hunting for...? > Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 07:56:43 -0700 > From: Marc Neveux > Subject: FS: Lord Sutch & Heavy Friends (Page, Bonham, Beck) > > Lord Sutch & Heavy Friends - Cotillion SD-9015 $7.00 + $3.00 shipping > > Record and cover are both VG. This album was recorded in 1970 and > features Jimmy Page, John Bonham, Jeff Beck, Noel Redding and Nicky > Hopkins with Lord Sutch on vocals. Check my references at: > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=marcn@pacificnet.ne >t ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 07:08:53 EDT From: KarmaFuzzz Subject: Re: Late-night bulletin/the real elaine... doesn't Carol Leifer have a sitcom on one of the baby networks [upn or wb]? if they do an elaine spin off, let's just hope they don't let JLD's husband brad hall produce it (at least, based on _the single guy,_ which even ming-na wen couldn't breathe life into). capuchin@teleport.com writes: > Anyway, I'd've pegged Elaine to be the big spinoff... mostly because > Julia Luis-Dreyfuss has had a spotty career up until Seinfeld and it > behooves her to keep that role for a while. Elain also has the most > interesting and established side-characters in her life (Peterman, Pitt, > Sue Ellen Mischke, Puddy, Crazy Joe Davola, etc.) as well as the > possibility of bringing in all the others in little cameos. There are > also all kinds of references to people and things Elaine has to do that > have nothing to do with Jerry & co. that imply she has a second life... > maybe it's about something? Maybe it's interesting. Maybe it's funny. > I'm sure developers at NBC are asking themselves the same questions while > trying to figure out just how much money it takes to make Julia turn her > back on her family for a couple of years. >> ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #190 *******************************