From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #185 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, May 10 1998 Volume 07 : Number 185 Today's Subjects: ----------------- For the Feg library [Della & Steve Schiavo ] pil,. bad news [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] Re: lime and limpid green [Ross Overbury ] Re: lime and limpid green [Capuchin ] eno-robyn connection [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] meeting british folk-rockers in the toliet, pt. 1 [dwdudic@erols.com (Dav] concert(s) [Gary assassin ] Re: lime and limpid green [David Librik ] Re: Glen Baxter & 60s bands [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dig] Re: tape tree & the eno log [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dig] Lloyd Cole, and Uncle Lou to Pete Tork via Brian Eno [james.dignan@stoneb] Re: concert(s) [woj spice ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 9 May 98 22:19:22 -0600 From: Della & Steve Schiavo Subject: For the Feg library UK publisher Bloomsbury is coming to the U.S. Among their first offerings are: "Nick Drake - The Biography" by Patrick Humphries November 1998 24.95 And a Rizzoli book you may just want to check out at the bookstore: "De Chirico and the Mediterranean" by de Sanna, et al. Mark your calendars - Steve November 1998 65.00 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 03:45:31 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: pil,. bad news On Sat, 9 May 1998 20:43:00 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > >> I have rarely been disappointed by a live show. The only instance >> that spring to mind are PiL (when 9 was released) Well, if it wasn't Jah Wobble or Bill Laswell on bass, why bother seeing PiL? who were awesome the >> previous times I had seen them, and Robyn Hitchcock, who was once >> great and has just steadily lapsed into mediocrity. > >To be fair, the guy probably sat thru a *whole* mediocre show before >deciding robyn now sucks. And it serves RH right for not giving the guy >his $10 worth... > >=b > >I'm getting the GAMH show soon on DAT! all grovels will be considered! >hee hee (Who wants to admin the tape tree?) > >------------------------------ Let's get this thing treed! YES! In bad news, fellow fegs, I just found out that the 23rd is a friends b-day party I CAN'T miss...damn! I was looking forward to going to the fegfest, too! :-( -luther ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 98 0:58:59 EDT From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: lime and limpid green Mike Godwin said of Syd: > Wait till you get to "Barrett" - that's more like pulling some bunting and > the red and yellow mane of a merry-go-round horse out of the wreck. Stallion horse? Was that intentional? Anyway, I'm sure to get "Barrett" and "Opal" now. How could I resist another peek at the wreck? PS: The RH connection is pretty hard to deny, isn't it? Maybe he should exorcise Syd as he did John (Somewhere Apart). Or has he already done that? - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 05:10:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: lime and limpid green On Sun, 10 May 1998, Ross Overbury wrote: > > Wait till you get to "Barrett" - that's more like pulling some bunting and > > the red and yellow mane of a merry-go-round horse out of the wreck. > Stallion horse? Was that intentional? Anyway, I'm sure to get "Barrett" and > "Opal" now. How could I resist another peek at the wreck? I'm completely sure it was intentional. Before you go out and spend cash on Barrett and Opel, locate and purchase the excellent Crazy Diamond box set. Opel, Barrett, and The Madcap Laughs with tons of outtakes and things. I'll be listening to mine as soon as Lobsterman decides he should give it back. > PS: The RH connection is pretty hard to deny, isn't it? Maybe he > should exorcise Syd as he did John (Somewhere Apart). Or has he > already done that? Oh dear... this is a tough one. Most Syd-like Robynsong. Vegetable Friend comes to mind... not sure why. Robyn doesn't do anything as droney as Syd does. That's probably the thing that took me longest to "get" about Syd. A friend made a tape for me once (which I dubbed for Chris Franz... how'd you like that one, Chris?) and it was the first I'd heard of the man. On first listen, I thought the songs were very long and the middle bits were just long vamps that remind me of raver-type techno tunes that just go on and on with no really discernable melody that will make you know 1:54 from 3:16. I figured out later that it's all the production and the guitar bits are actually really clear and inventive and poppy. I think Syd could have written Beautiful Girl. I think Robyn could have written No Good Trying (boyo, do I love that song. The lyrics are brilliant). Robyn couldn't have touched Octopus or Here I Go, but Syd wouldn't have the guts to do Beautiful Queen or My Wife And My Dead Wife. We've had this discussion before. Syd is very innocent and Robyn is very sensual. Syd is tantalizingly elusive and Robyn is painfully direct. Syd isn't in music anymore, Robyn is. I'm pretty happy with the state of things and the back catalog combined. I think Wax Doll is pretty Syd. Of course Flavour Of Night. I'll be on this one for a while. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 16:45:32 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: eno-robyn connection On Sat, 9 May 1998 20:43:00 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > >I think I have about 80 albums which include some sort of Eno >participation, and I don't even own any U2 stuff. So yeah, I think Eno is >nifty. He certainly ranks among Eb's Notorious 29. Six steps of separation from eno! I have a theory that EVERYTHING in the 80's that wasn't crap was either directly worked on by Eno, or influenced BY Eno...(including uncle bobby...remember, seeing Eno playing wearing blue sunglasses had an effect on young robin (has he ALWAYS been robYn hitchcock, or did he change the "i" to a "y" for a stage name?)...)\ -luther ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 16:49:09 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: meeting british folk-rockers in the toliet, pt. 1 From the RICHARD THOMPSON list: Didn't somebody on this list have a similar experience meeting robyn? >> >> Mr. Honeycutt's "dream meeting" reminded me of a somewhat embarrassing >> real-life encounter I had with OH. While waiting in line for entry to >> the Paradise in Boston for the "Rumour & Sigh" tour, I popped into the >> Thai restaurant next door to use the bathroom. The restrooms, in this >> particular eatery, are single occupant lavatories off an alcove. The >> men's room door was locked, so I stood waiting by the step at the >> entryway to the alcove. I heard the toilet flush, and then the door >> opened. Who stepped out but.....Richard Thompson! I then exclaimed >> in a loud voice, "RICHARD THOMPSON!! YOU'RE FANTASTIC!! I'M HERE TO >> SEE YOU TONIGHT." He pleasantly replied, "Oh, I'll be seeing you >> tonight." In the years that have passed since this meeting, I've come >> to realize that I was extremely fortunate that the lavatories were >> single occupant facilities. I can only imagine how awkward it would >> have been had I uttered the same awestruck drivel while OH was engaged >> in the activities which traditionally take place in said facilities. >> >> >> Phil > >Reminds me of my encounter with Adrian Belew just a few weeks ago. Like our >friend Mr. Gregson, Belew lives in Nashville now. My wife and I were >heading to the checkout line in Home Depot (an enormous hardware store for >those outside the US) and there in the next line over is Adrian Belew. Now, >I didn't want to bother the guy while he was buying pesticide, so I simply >pointed him out to my wife and said, "That fella over there is one of the >finest guitar players around." I turned to pay for our stuff and from >behind me I hear heard voice: "Who are you? My husband says you're one of the >finest guitar players around." So Belew comes over and politely shakes >hands and says hello (I had on my Fender t-shirt, but he didn't comment). >Thank God she didn't think to tell him I'm a bass player and ask if he needs >one! Tony Levin I ain't!! > >Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 21:40:50 -0400 From: Gary assassin Subject: concert(s) According to Ticketmaster Robyn Hithcock will be playing in Atalnata on January 1st 2039. Who wants to go? We can meet at the Plutonium filling station, named after myself. As for the Botton Line in NYC on June 12th, Ticketmaster doesn't have a listing yet. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 20:39:58 -0500 From: David Librik Subject: Re: lime and limpid green Capuchin wrote: >Oh dear... this is a tough one. Most Syd-like Robynsong. Vegetable >Friend comes to mind... not sure why. This Could Be The Day. I got into Robyn because I was a Syd fan, and when I heard "Brenda's Iron Sledge," it reminded me of "Arnold Layne." Then I heard "The Lizard," which is the lugubrious Syd of "Maisie." Then I heard "Acid Bird" and ... while none of this sounds exactly like Syd, it seems to be coming from the same background -- only brasher. And then I heard "This Could Be The Day" and it was all over; I was a Hitchcock fan. If you're just getting interested in Syd, I should mention that you really only need the first two albums, "Madcap" and "Barrett." The rest of the stuff (Opal, outtakes) is for fans. Of course, really, all of it's for fans. I love it, but it has very few objectively positive qualities. >We've had this discussion before. Syd is very innocent and Robyn is very >sensual. Syd is tantalizingly elusive and Robyn is painfully direct. Yeah. "Invisible Hitchcock" is far more Syd than "You and Oblivion." Not sonically, mind you, but thematically. Robyn also has that dark, Edward Gorey-esque side: not so much sexually threatening, but more like... Trevor, come and shave your playmates -- The bells are slowing down, a sacrifice is due!! ...which is missing from Syd, who is aggressively childlike. I'm really glad you're discovering Barrett. He's certainly an acquired taste which not everyone gets (like _In the Aeroplane over the Sea_, _Daydream Nation_, or _Who Came First_) rather than a pinnacle of apparent greatness or fundamental part of What Rock Is (like "Waterloo Sunset," _Message From the Country_, or "Roadrunner.") But isn't it the loveable obscurities that really give you a feeling of being cool? - - David Librik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 14:45:48 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Glen Baxter & 60s bands Ethyl Ketone writes: >Donovan - *gasp*! I haven't listened to Donovan for years but his was the >first concert I saw bask in the, you know, sixties. I was a kid and talked >my big brother into letting me tag along to the Hollywood Bowl. Can't >believe my brother, at 17, let his 11 year old sister tag along. Donovan >came out on the stage in a white robe and sat on a pillow for the whole >evening. Right out of "A Gift from a Flower to a Garden" stuff. It's as >clear as if it were yesterday in my mind so I guess I'm not that old yet >. :) I'm just a fraction too young for 60s concert reminiscences (I was seven when the Beatles split up), but I am going on a big Donovan binge at the moment, after buying three Donovan CDs for next to nothing (Barabajagal, Hurdy Gurdy Man, and Sunshine Superman). Very datedly '60s, but great music for all that! Oh, and I missed both Joni Mitchell and Simon & Garfunkel from my faves of the 60s list! James PPS - do you have a cousin called Al Kane? James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 14:45:57 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: tape tree & the eno log >Either (A) The 4/29 SF show was the greatest Robyn Hitchcock performance >ever, or (B) Everyone who attended the 4/29 SF show has conspired to make >the couple who chose nudity over Hitchcock believe they may have made the >wrong choice. I'm going to need to review the taped evidence to decide. >Who's got it? If someone's working on a tree please put me down as a >digital branch. someone taped this couple nude? Is there a website? >here's a list of what eno's done that pretty much speaks for itself. Kenster, you missed a bit out. Then again, the Brian Eno Electronic Portfolio (or BEEP for short), a CD ROM put out by the guy that runs the Eno list (Nerve Net) lists 225 records up until about the end of 1996, but doesn't include his art installations, nor does it include the books ("Music for non musicians"-limited release booklet; "A year with swollen appendices"; and "More Dark than Shark", a book of text and art in collaboration with Russell Mills). Neither does it list the work he has done for and with the WarChild organisation (promoting aid for Bosnia) or his very frequent public lectures and appearances. How the hell he finds time to do it all is beyond me. Maybe he isn't on the net... James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 14:50:27 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Lloyd Cole, and Uncle Lou to Pete Tork via Brian Eno > all this talk about lou reed reminded me of an interview with >lloyd cole >when he moved to NYC from europe. when asked about lou reed living in the >same neighborhood, lloyd replied: " he's a miserable old bastard. i avoid >him as much as i can , and i can only hope he avoids me as well. The less i >have to with him, the better." Lloyd did, of course, write a song about the fact that so many people try to look cool by aping the VU style... (Andy's babies) I wonder where that ties in... Re: Eno >Yeah, but he still hasn't produced Peter Tork. Mind you, Tork was a session musician one one of George Harrison's albums, ISTR. And Mystic George's old mate the Big O collaborated posthumously on a track with the Bald E. Now since Eno worked on Laurie Anderson's "Bright Red" album alongside her main squeeze, that means there's only four steps from... James ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 23:11:56 -0400 From: woj spice Subject: Re: concert(s) also sprach Gary assassin: >As for the Botton Line in NYC on June 12th, Ticketmaster doesn't have a >listing yet. ...and probably won't as ticketmaster doesn't handle tickets for the bottom line. you have to purchase them at the bottom line which is at the corner of west 4th and mercer st. in greenwich village. woj ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #185 *******************************