From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #177 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, May 5 1998 Volume 07 : Number 177 Today's Subjects: ----------------- re:retakes [Jeff Rosedale ] Neutral Milk Hotel [John Barrington Jones ] Kevin Ayers Alert [Rich Plumb ] April 29th [Rick Salsman ] Re: Kevin Ayers Alert [Tom Clark ] welcome [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] Re: Welcome [Ross Overbury ] Take it off, Terrance! and Krazy Kat [shmac@ix.netcom.com (Scott Hunter M] Re: Harvey review [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] repeated by popular demand... [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James D] Re: Ol' Monster Noggin [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] FegFest '98 [Mike Runion ] fwd: SH [Russ Reynolds ] all hail reed & cale [kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander)] celebrate older persons month at the library ["Capitalism Blows" ] Robin the eavesdropper [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 4 May 98 16:09:43 EDT From: Jeff Rosedale Subject: re:retakes Straining the porous memory muscles... reading the seepage: I only went to one shoot- there were lucky folks who got to all of them, so one or more may give full disclosure. I do remember that "Beautiful Queen" was shot twice on the last day because something didn't come out right- either the guitar sound or somebody's head, I can't recall. Also, for the soundtrack numbers (eerie green storm lantern, I dream of antwoman), the cameras were turned off. We were told that this was the first time these songs had been played, but they had in fact been tried on for size during a previous filming session (don't know if cameras were on or off for that one). Otherwise it was a "no repeat" situation. I think. --jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 14:03:28 -0700 From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Neutral Milk Hotel Just wanted to let pertinent fegs know that I finally bought a copy of NHM's "Aeroplane" and will give it a thorough listening tonight at work. After all the positive reviews I've seen on here, I'm kind of excited to hear it!! Thanks to all of you for your non-Robyn CD recommendations that are posted here from time to time. - -jbj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 17:42:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Rich Plumb Subject: Kevin Ayers Alert Kevin Ayers is doing 2 shows on the west coast of the US in the near future. Is anyone going, does anyone care about him? It's kind of a surprise since he probably hasn't released anything here in a dog's age. I was reading some of the Robyn archives and one review compared him to Kevin Ayers, not in content just in general weirdness. He put out some nice records in the 70's, but he's been pretty quiet for quite some time. rich ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 15:08:01 -0800 From: Rick Salsman Subject: April 29th Hello-- I a hoping someone can help me...I got a chance to see the 29APR show in San Francisco and have a friend who would very much like to hear the show again...I know sometimes people get copies of concerts..anyone know where I could get this concert on tape? It is a long story, but the show was kind of important to my friend and it would help him get through a very tough time... thanks Rick ___________________________ Inky Fingers, Inc. -- inky@inkyfingers.com http://www.inkyfingers.com Rick Salsman - RSalsman@inkyfingers.com http://www.inkyfingers.com/RHSII.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 98 15:17:00 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Kevin Ayers Alert On 5/4/98 2:42 PM, Rich Plumb wrote: >Kevin Ayers is doing 2 shows on the west coast of the US in the near >future. Is anyone going, does anyone care about him? It's kind of a >surprise since he probably hasn't released anything here in a dog's age. > >I was reading some of the Robyn archives and one review compared him to >Kevin Ayers, not in content just in general weirdness. He put out some >nice records in the 70's, but he's been pretty quiet for quite some time. We saw that on the upcoming calendar of the GAMH in SF while we were there to see RH. Funny thing: That morning - it's a Sunday - Albini's new band "Shellac" is doing an 11AM show. Bring your coffee and danish to that one! I'm extremely bummed that I won't be able to make it since I've already committed to be at some half-assed birdy BBQ in Harrisburgh, PA that weekend! ;^) Feel my fist, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 23:51:28 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: welcome On Mon, 4 May 1998 15:42:08 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > >Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 20:29:36 +2910 >From: dlang >Subject: re.RH at gamh > >Welcome Nur, yet another "Dickhead" on the list, mein gott, before we >know it Tish and Binky ( prominent Rt entities on the RT list ) will be >on line here next , its an invasion!. Be warned however, its not quite >as polite as the Rt list and often considerably weirder! >dave lang. > I must second this...though it is no surprise...the two 40-something british folk-rock singer-songwriters compliment each other. Wait til you see one of the dispatches from the mind of the Great Quail, though...they out-strange 'RT's roadies' by quite a bit.... -luther I know I have probably asked this before, but have these two EVER played w/ each other, or expressed an opinon about each other (besides' Robyn doing "calvary cross" and "withered and died"?) > > >------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 98 20:01:27 EDT From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: Welcome Dave Lang said: > > > >Welcome Nur, yet another "Dickhead" on the list, mein gott, before we > >know it Tish and Binky ( prominent Rt entities on the RT list ) will be > >on line here next , its an invasion!. Be warned however, its not quite > >as polite as the Rt list and often considerably weirder! Richard Thompson fans like surf music? - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 21:31:14 -0500 (CDT) From: shmac@ix.netcom.com (Scott Hunter McCleary) Subject: Take it off, Terrance! and Krazy Kat So Terrence wants to be a comic stripper? Emo Phillips meets Sally Rand -- I can dig it (sort of). Tell a joke, pop a balloon. Kind of the Full Monty Python. As I slooooooowly make my way through more than a week plus's worth of Fegmaniax Digests (a seven-week-old has a way of reprioritizing your life for you but GOD, it's great to read from you people again!).... I'm a Krazy Kat fan from way back. Still remember the animated cartoon on television. I seem to recall Carole Channing did Krazy's voice -- an interesting choice for a character who was always written (intentionally) rather vaguely gender-wise. There USED to be a great Krazy Kat page at www.krazy.com. Even though the bulk of it isn't there anymore, it would be worth looking at. There are still some good links there that can take you deeper into the surreal history of Coconino County and its citizenry. I know the entire Kat oeuvre has been reprinted in the last 10 years by a couple different publishers. You should still be able to find the books. If your local bookseller doesn't have them, check an art supply store. There are a lot more Krazy Kat devotees out there than you might think. Maybe 10 years ago Jay Cantor (Kantor?) wrote an interesting novel ("Krazy Kat", oddly enough) about Krazy and Ignatz set in the present that received mixed reviews, but I thought it was pretty good. The book's strength was that it keyed on the surrealism in the strip and took the characters into old age. One chapter WAS titled "Venus in Furs" now that I think of it. n.p. -- Renaud Garcia-Fons, Oriental Bass ========= SH McCleary Prodigal Dog Communications 3052 S. Buchanan St., #A1 Arlington, VA 22206 shmac@prodigaldog.com www.prodigaldog.com Welcome Schuyler: www.prodigaldog.com/baby/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 16:03:42 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Harvey review >Storefront Hitchcock (Concert documentary, color, no rating, 1:17) > >By Dennis Harvey impressive review, and, for the most part favourable whilst remaining fairly objective. Only let the wors 'wacky' and 'Barrett' through once each as well, while moving more towards Carroll for comparison, which i think is fair. An extra tick for mentioning Nick Drake. >a pleasing form of mild insanity good description James ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 16:03:39 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: repeated by popular demand... ...that hair drying comment in full! - --- >Rocktropolis allstar daily music news: > >March 27, 1998 > >http://www.allstarmag.com > >Edited by Carrie Borzillo > >MOVIE REVIEW: JONATHAN DEMME'S STOREFRONT HITCHCOCK > >In a world where we like our answers provided to us with the ease of >picking up a Big Mac at the drive-thru, the pairing of counter- culture >icon Robyn Hitchcock and Academy Award- winning director Jonathan Demme >(The Silence of the Lambs, Stop Making Sense) doesn't appear to make much >sense. > >Although both started out on the fringe, Hitchcock, who says, "I'm never >going to break on contemporary hit radio," has clung to that edge for so >long his fingers are probably blue, while Demme's Oscar win gave him a >permanent key to mainstream city. Beneath the obvious, though -- where >both still prefer to reside -- the symmetry that brought the pair together >comes into focus. > >Watching Storefront Hitchcock, a filmed 14-song live Hitchcock performance >(with the film not scheduled to be released until October, the final song >count, down from 22, has not been determined) compiled from four shows in >New York last year, is like being in the live audience of one of >Hitchcock's unique "cabaret" blends of erudite songs and Monty Python- >styled stand-up bits between numbers. > >Demme, who says he wanted to work with Hitchcock because "of Hitchcock's >natural ability for pacing," has captured the feel of the concerts in the >best manner possible, by just letting Hitchcock be himself. Still, Demme's >influence can be subtly felt in the various backdrops, which range from >pure black to rainbow- colored windows, and the ever- changing lighting. > >Talking with the two of them at Austin's Hyatt during last week's South by >Southwest conference, where Storefront Hitchcock had its premiere, was >akin to talking to a philosophical '90s Abbott & Costello. Demme plays the >foil to Hitchcock's Lou Costello: > >Demme: "You know the whole tormented story of the people who financed it, >loved our film, and then they went bankrupt." > >Hitchcock: "Just because they financed our film." > >When the subject of how Austin was chosen as the locale for the screening, >they hit a groove. > >Demme: "There's no greater gathering of people to hear music and see films >than in Austin, Texas. It's an amazing synergistic place." > >Hitchcock: "There's a lot of groovers here... There's 'seedy groovers,' >'ratty groovers,' and a third strain just coming to light, 'nerdy >groovers.' Well, put those three together, and boy..." > >There's a bit in the movie between songs where Hitchcock describes time as >slowing down and speeding up. When addressing the subject of the current >pace of his life, he pulls off the line for which -- if there is any >justice -- he will be remembered. > >As he is explaining that time is whizzing past you, Demme says, "It makes >you feel like the guy in the [Maxell] ad, sitting in the chair." He then >holds on to the side of the couch and makes a motion of something speeding >by your head. To which Hitchcock responds, "Time is drying your hair." > >- -Steve Baltin James ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:53:11 +0100 From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: Ol' Monster Noggin >>>>> "Eb" == Eb writes: >> Brian Eno ...who had a wonderful cameo on the very last (sniff!) Father Ted: "... and this is Father Eno" Brian: "Hello" Ah, Dermot Morgan, we shall not see your like again. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 07:39:23 -0400 From: tanter Subject: SH Does anyone who's been to the film have a sense of how many of their fellow attendees are not fans or have never heard of RH and are not there because of a fan? I'm wondering about this because they may give the film limited release if the crowds aren't that big.... I haven't heard of it coming anywhere near Massachusetts....? Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 10:50:08 -0700 From: Mike Runion Subject: FegFest '98 Hey all, Well, I'm sitting down here in Florida (or up there and halfway around if you're Danielle or James) gettin' sorta antsy for the big Memorial Day Bash. My truck is already conceptually filled with a slew of Robyn goodies, tapes, vids, guitar, pillow, and several warm bottles of half-drunken Interstate brand Mountain Dew. I'm wondering if any attending fegs would be willing to make and bring copies of Unhatched Crablings 3&4 and Uncarved Pumpkins for me? If so, let me know what I can bring you in return (tapes, vids, warm bottles of half-drunken Mountain Dew?) Hey Quail, how's the web page coming? We're desperate for info out here! Okay, see y'all there, Mike - -- Mike Runion Cocoa, FL, USA /******************************************************************\ | VCM: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/cones.htm | | Fegmaps: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/fegmaps | | Spoken Word Tape: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/wordtape.htm | \******************************************************************/ "Wait a minute. Time for a Planetary Sit-In!" - Julian Cope ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 98 09:03:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: fwd: SH ======== Original Message ======== Does anyone who's been to the film have a sense of how many of their fellow attendees are not fans or have never heard of RH and are not there because of a fan? I'm wondering about this because they may give the film limited release if the crowds aren't that big.... I haven't heard of it coming anywhere near Massachusetts....? Marcy ======== Fwd by: Russ Reynolds ======== I sensed that probably 90% of the people there were fans of Hitchcock. A certain segment of the audience seemed unfamiliar with the music. And judging from the whoop thet went up in the theatre when David Byrne's name was mentioned during "Freeze" I'd guess there were a number of Demme fans. I don't believe there's a release date for this film yet, is there? I think the target was some time in the fall. - -russ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 14:00:11 -0400 From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: all hail reed & cale >>Well, basically: Lou is better than stuffy ol' skin-cancer-seeking Cale. >>Heh heh. > >There are two answers to this. One is well reasoned and adult. The other is: > >John is cooler than Lou! John rules Lou drools! Nyah Nyah! :) funny, since cale, like lou, seems like a figure in black and white. while john moves around the musical horizon so much more than lou, i still enjoy lou more. cale's experimentation doesn't pay off for me all that frequently. lou, on the other hand, is much more interesting and entertaining a large percentage of the time. he even anticipates his own drool as "some senile old fart playin' in the dirt" in the hilarious 'beginning of a great adventure'. i'm sorry, but even though john can really touch me (i absolutely love _paris 1919_), lou speaks to me on so many more levels. although 'the gift' may be the funniest thing cale has ever done. lou's been pretty consistant since _the blue mask_ with the glaring exception of _mistrial_. his new live album is really good as well. it's got versions of 'kicks', 'vicious', and 'original wrapper' that are better than the originals. >> (I just got into Cale...so far, "Fear" beats most solo Lou...) i have to admit that i dig billy bragg's remake of 'fear is a man's best friend' more than john's original. KEN "so shoot me now!" THE KENSTER can't get that great song from _metal machine music_ outta my head. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 10:55:54 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: celebrate older persons month at the library right. i'll let jeme tell all about the big journey, because that's what jeme does. did want to mention a few things, though. first, many many thanks again to the mighty chris franz for letting us sleep (albeit in the upright position) on his floor (and for not sitting in front of me at the movie!) second, i thought it was *very* cool of karen to purchase a plunger for chris' ailing shitter. karen is a good person. third, here was the funniest exchange of the week-- ian: "i can't find my belt." jeme: "shep proudfoot took it from you and beat you with it." too much! here's the movie setlist. i apologize if this has already been posted in full, but i don't recall it having been. Devil's Radio 1974 Filthy Bird Thundering I'm Only You Glass Hotel I Something You The Yip Song I Am Not Me You And Oblivion Airscape Freeze Alright, Yeah No, I Don't Remember Guildford ...which comes to fourteen songs, even though it says in the opening credits that there are fifteen. peter serath also said after that there were fourteen songs. there was a little bit of Freeze at the very beginning, but since Freeze is also in the movie, i don't think you'd count that as the missing fifteenth song. i can echo nick's comment that it was one of the better robyn concerts i'd ever heard. that's even without it being in a movie. god damn, that movie was good! i was not *even* prepared to be blown away like that (and i wasn't driving down from seattle because i thought it was going to suck...) demme really pulled it off. i didn't really like Philadelphia, and i haven't yet seen Cousin Bobby, so, this is the first, you know, JONATHAN DEMME movie i've seen since Silence of the Lambs. good to have him back! cannot even wait to see it again. as for which is the best movie of 1998, Storefront Hitchcock or The Big Lebowski? too close to call, i'm afraid. ok, ok. Storefront by a nose. really! it's that fucking good! now the bit about robyn lurking. it's undeniable that he is. well, more likely that somebody's feeding him info., i think. there was the big-assed political thread (which, by the way, featured quite a few inaccurate statements, notably by jeme, terry, and christopher. but that's all i'll say on the subject.) followed by robyn making tons of subversive comments throughout the evening. the new Balloon Man story (yes, *another* one) was quite incredible on this count. then, what else? oh, somebody mentioned something about country joe and the fish onlist wednesday afternoon, and robyn said something that evening like, "i'd like to welcome any members of country joe and the fish who are in attendance." i, of course, didn't find out that this had been mentioned onlist until i returned home and read all the backlogged e-mail over the weekend. but this was really the clincher, i'd think. and jeme'd been telling anyone within about a twenty-mile radius that his robyn fantasy was to hear Flavour Of Night with robyn on piano and deni on violin. et voila! also, we'd been talking about the age of the transamerica building between sets (oh, we should say something about the cheri knight set. the hall had imposed some weird rules, saying the performers weren't allowed to play any electric instruments, weren't allowed to use drums, and couldn't have more than four people on stage at one time. now that i'm thinking about it, they didn't say whether or not that included stage divers. the crowd was getting *exceedingly* rowdy towards the end of the set. see, they made an end-run around the rules by putting a tambourine on a stool, and using that as the drum kit. drove the crowd fucking NUTS! anyhow, that's presumably why robyn didn't play any songs on electric either.) and robyn mentioned the age of the transamerica building at some time. jeez, i'm forgetting a whole shitload of them, aren't i? i mean, it was uncanny. oh, glen and i were talking between sets, outside, about the new tobacco law in california, and robyn mentioned *that* during his set. that's why i think glen is the mole. 'cause, even though there were a few people around us, no one was listening to us. i made sure of that. see, then glen told me that robyn's set was going to start in five minutes, so i left him to finish his cigarette, and rushed back inside to get ready to tape the show. but the show didn't start for at least another fifteen minutes, and glen took his own sweet time getting back to the table. i mentioned to jeme after the show that i thought glen was the mole, but he (glen) pretended to be too involved with signing bayard's birthday present to hear me. just call me Detective Ed. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 19:16:46 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Pink Floyd in the Twilight Zone On Fri, 1 May 1998, Ben wrote: > Imagine, if you will, an alternate dimension where Syd never left the > Floyd. The year is 1998, and David Gilmour is still playing in cover bands. > Where are the Floyd and what are they doing? After adding a saxophone and a banjo to the lineup, Syd got more and more into woodland bop and was soon competing with Marc as to which hippie could make the biggest appeal to the pre-teen market. The Floyd were signed to do the soundtrack of 'Xanadu' and Jeff Lynne was forced to leave the music industry and become a sales rep for car parts. Eventually the Floyd had a huge hit with a record called "(When you gonna change your) Strawberry Mind?" after which Roger killed himself. Nick was horribly mutilated when his vintage Bugatti blew up at 135 mph, but fortunately his drumming ability was unaffected. Rick continued to play the same four notes through an ever-increasing range of sound processors. Subsequently, Syd announced his intention to star as the Mole in a film version of "Wind in the Willows", with Jeremy Irons as the Rat and Timothy West as the Badger. Harry Enfield was tipped play Toad and Bernie Ecclestone promised to supply the cars for him to smash up. An all-star support cast was also approached, including Robert Plant as the Chief Weasel and Helena Bonham-Carter as the washerwoman on the barge. Music for the film was to be an interesting first-time collaboration between Syd and Buddy Holly... - - Mike G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 13:35:05 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Robin the eavesdropper When Robyn performs a Neutral Milk Hotel cover in concert, and prefaces it by saying "This one's in the key of E-flat," THEN I'll believe he's lurking on the list. ;) Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #177 *******************************