From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #168 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, April 29 1998 Volume 07 : Number 168 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Some more flesh cartoon strips [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James ] Lengthy NZ politics summary for Chris. Skip at will [james.dignan@stonebo] great pop things [sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain)] Comics and Panel conversions... ["Chris, the missing years." ] Abject apologies (slight politics, but other things too) [Danielle ] Re: Comics/makkies [lj lindhurst ] Re: what woj sed [dlang ] God's comic [Natalie Jacobs ] comic strips [boodle boodle boodle ] Renaissance and Cartoons [Rich Plumb ] Happy Birthday, Bayard [mbrage@surgery.bsd.uchicago.edu (Michael Brage)] Re: Happy Birthday, Bayard [lj lindhurst ] Woody Allen [hal brandt ] Fwd: Woody Allen ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Woody Allen [Christopher Gross ] Re: more comic stripping [Tom Clark ] Rambling Syd Rumpo ["Laurence Roberts" ] Re: Fwd: Woody Allen [Tom Clark ] Re: Fwd: Woody Allen (0% Fat Old F*cks content) [Jason Thornton >> As an aspiring comic-stripper, I'd like your-all opinions on comic strips, >>> that's all. Bloom County was the greatest! Even better that NZ's best (Footrot Flats)! (That should keep JA happy... :) James PS - Footrot Flats is the second best ;) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:35:23 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Lengthy NZ politics summary for Chris. Skip at will erk. And I said my last comment would be just that, too. Still Chris asked for info... >> Interestingly, we now have one of >> the most 'pure' free-market capitalist economies in the world. Standard >> of living, you ask? Falling by the day. > >Was NZ's standard of living trending up or down just before it abandoned >socialism? (This isn't a rhetorical question, I'm really curious.) Until the late 70s, NZ had been doing very nicely thank you. Then came a National Party (read: Republican/Conservative) Prime Minister (Robert Muldoon) seen by many at the time of the best way forward for NZ, but seen since by most as a drunken dicatorial figure whose main aim was to hold on to power irrespective of what happened to New Zealand. Under his, erm, guidance, New Zealand launched a massive series of "Think Big" schemes, aimed at providing - well, now that you mention it, I don't know what they were meant to provide. They cost billions of dollars and drove New Zealand to within a stone's throw of bankruptcy. When the Labour Party came into power in 1984, they had to act very, very quickly in order to keep the country from going under (NZ was literally at the stage of stopping ambassadorial credit cards!) In order to get more money back into governmental coffers, the Labour Government was forced to sell of many of its state owned assets. And between about 1985 and 1987, the country returned, if not to the 60s lap of luxury, at least to an even keel. At which point everyone expected them to stop selling. Unfortunately, a certain element within the Labour Party, notably its Minister of Finance, was enamoured with hard right economic policies, and by the time he was sacked from his position in disgrace in 1989 he had sold off many more things than should ever have been sold: The post office, railways, major broadcasting channels, national airline and the country's biggest bank, to name just a few things. Interestingly he went on to found New Zealand's most economic right-wing political party, the laughably named "Association of Consumers and Taxpayers", known to many as the "Accountants, Crooks and Tax-dodgers" party. Despite the fact that the general public was hurting, and hurting badly, when National came back into power in 1990 they continued the sell off, pushing 'user pays' to the point where health care and education (both virtually free for all in the 60s) are now only available to the wealthy and lucky. The police, fire service, and prison service can no longer afford the numbers of front line officers they need to keep us safe. Violent crime, once so uncommon that even in cities people could sleep happily with doors unlocked (within the last 20 years!) is now at previously unheard of levels, and farmers are leaving their farms in droves (pun not intended) as the work is no longer economically viable. There is a general feeling in the country that the government has sold everything off, and sold the people out. The latest mad scheme is to sell off the nation's highways to private corporations. Good idea, Jenny, good idea. Sigh. >> Godwin's Law /prov./ [Usenet] "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the >> probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." hmmm. that sort of law sounds a bit fascist to me... >Hey! Godwin's Law doesn't apply if Nazis are actually germane to the >topic at hand! oops! Guess who read that as 'are actually German...' the first time! and after that, I think I agree with Bayard: Tell us about your drugs... James (seriously considering voting for the South Island Independence Party at the next election...) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:38:46 -0500 From: sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain) Subject: great pop things I spoke too soon. NewCity does not have any on their site. I did finda few samples at www.ellipsis.co.uk/pop/contents.html- you click on the one you want to follow and it shows you that strip panel by panel (keep clicking on the forward arrows). Also an interesting article on the strip and its history can be found at http://shows.wmnf.org/circus/moe/Articles/GREATPOP.htm . According to the article the other publications that carry it besides New City (Chicago) are LA Weekly, Pop Culture Express (Austin), and the NME. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:43:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Chris, the missing years." Subject: Comics and Panel conversions... Excuse me if I am skipping around here a bit, but has anyone mentioned "Makkies"?? I think that is the spelling. Stranger readers will know where I am coming from. It is a NY-based (I think) artist that is beyond surreal compare at times. Also, I have a small but effective collection of various comics that have not necessarily gone beyond the very local, if published at all, which are a joy every so often. Finnaly, some of my favorite comics are the Christian tracts handed out, *especially* the Chick Tracts. Almost all of these are base in some current affairs dilema and how that indicates a impending doom based on some Biblical quote-du-jour. Mere years after their publicatioin they become hopelessly out of date to a degree that is laughable. The Chick Tracts are great because of how they portray anyone but a mythical straight-laced born-again type. Verging on racist or bigoted in almost every tract, they are an insult to anyone with any degree of cultural sensitivity or understanding. Also, it is amazing how Catholicism is portrayed. Consistenly Catholics, at every turn, are involved in some form of Satanism beyond compare. Also, at the end of these, no matter how grave the situation, the non-beliver is always converted in two or three panels at the most. This portrays faith in general and Christianity as a simpistic choice and one of only two possible outcomes. I include the URL for the Chick site... http://chick.com over, .chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:48:35 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: what woj sed >>Um. I'm about to do something I hate, but I think it's justified. A lot >>of 'these people' are lonely young men. > >must not be enough sheep to go around in new zealand. ;) you leave Flossie out of this! Erm..that is...I...uh... ;) J. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 00:01:27 -0500 From: nicastr@idt.net (Nick) Subject: Re: Guitar World Article >So what do you think? Has anyone noticed the electric guitar distancing >thing? Do you think the Mossy Liquor tunes are "too inaccessible, >childlike, marginal, oblique or silly"? I personally don't find the electric portions of his solo performances to be "distant", but I can see where people would connect the loud, distorted guitar with the big rock show vibe. It's probably a subconcious reaction. I find I am able to get into the songs weather they are electric or acoustic, probably because Robyn's strong material, they work in many musical settings. As for "Mossy Liquor", the people I have played it for who were not familiar with his music seemed to really like it, so I think it is an accessable album. But Robyn always writes wonderful melodies which you can't help but love, so he can do "accessable" songs with unique lyrics and people can enjoy them purely because of the great melodies. Also, I don't think Moss Elixir/Mossy Liquor really has much "silly" material, because even when the lyrics seem kind of humerous, there are dark undercurrents running throughout the album(s) that keep it from going into the realm of sillyness. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 01:18:45 -0500 From: nicastr@idt.net (Ben) Subject: Re: Guitar World Article Sorry, I had a momentary change of identity, this is my response, not a new mystery Feg. >>So what do you think? Has anyone noticed the electric guitar distancing >>thing? Do you think the Mossy Liquor tunes are "too inaccessible, >>childlike, marginal, oblique or silly"? > >I personally don't find the electric portions of his solo performances to >be "distant", but I can see where people would connect the loud, distorted >guitar with the big rock show vibe. It's probably a subconcious reaction. >I find I am able to get into the songs weather they are electric or >acoustic, probably because Robyn's strong material, they work in many >musical settings. > >As for "Mossy Liquor", the people I have played it for who were not >familiar with his music seemed to really like it, so I think it is an >accessable album. But Robyn always writes wonderful melodies which you >can't help but love, so he can do "accessable" songs with unique lyrics and >people can enjoy them purely because of the great melodies. Also, I don't >think Moss Elixir/Mossy Liquor really has much "silly" material, because >even when the lyrics seem kind of humerous, there are dark undercurrents >running throughout the album(s) that keep it from going into the realm of >sillyness. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:57:36 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: i knows a proggie when i smells one Ben bellered: >How is it that you manage to completely miss the point of what I write, >instead chosing to respond to something that I never said?!?! When did I >ever say that anyone who hates the Dead is stupid? I never said that, so I >don't know why you're going on about it. You said that I can't appreciate the Dead because (allegedly) I don't have enough musical knowledge. You also said that the band's critics are too shortsighted to view the Dead as something beyond a "jam" band (that is, before you turned around and defended the Dead for being a great jam band). In other words, Dead-dislikers just aren't as smart and perceptive as you, the textbook-reading music major. >As for the bizarre Dave Marsh content, once again I never said anything >about him, I said the Rolling Stone Album Guide has a nauseating air of >self importance about it. Well, you're being horribly inconsistent, of course. You screech at me at length for posting casual anti-Dead comments to a MAILING LIST, and then you shrug off one of the country's top music critics writing even NASTIER comments in a nationally published book. So how come I'm childish and supermarket-tabloidy and obnoxious etc., but Marsh isn't? >You can hate whatever and whoever you want, but personally, I don't waste >my time getting upset about music I don't like. What is the point in >rambling on about how much so-and-so sucks? There's nothing to be gained >out of something so childish. Well, son, if you'll go back to my original comment, you'll see that it was mostly saying how cool a Paul Butterfield Blues Band track was. Some folks (Godwin, sorta Brandt) responded to my comment by saying, "Yeah, that IS a good song!" Others chose to fixate on the negative subtext...like you. And my initial one- or two-sentence comment really didn't waste much of my time, you know. It was fending off your lengthily composed, indignant, getting-upset-about-something-you-don't-like rebuttals which ate up a few more minutes. Eb np: Sonic Youth/A Thousand Leaves, which Dead fans actually oughta like ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 23:56:16 -0700 From: Danielle Subject: Abject apologies (slight politics, but other things too) I know, I know, you all want me to shut up and piss off, and I will after this, I promise. Chris wrote: > Hey! You don't have to be a libertarian to believe that stuff. I stand corrected. You obviously commit 'the speech' to memory at inter-disciplinary Right-ish gatherings. Wow, what a vision I'm having now... ;) > Was NZ's standard of living trending up or down just before it abandoned > socialism? (This isn't a rhetorical question, I'm really curious.) Hrm. That's a tricky question, actually. Naturally we were hit hard in 1987 (things had started to be 'deregulated' in 1984, ominously), and 1991's 'Black Budget' (health, education and welfare spending all drastically reduced) actually intensified the downward spiral. To be honest, I'd say we were going down beforehand (for a great many different reasons), but the policies our government adopted made everything much worse. See Jane Kelsey's The New Zealand Experiment: A World Model for Structural Adjustment?, or Brian Easton's The Commercialisation of New Zealand (1997 edition) if you're *really* that curious. :) > True. Be careful, though, that you don't mistake disagreement with your > criticisms for disagreement with the idea of criticism. Thanks for the advice. Still not touching that Deadhead thread (but gosh, isn't it entertaining?) However, on a *seemingly* unrelated note, from Tom: > Them, Erik - A Null Lot Look, it's Eb's opinion of the Grateful Dead, cunningly constructed from the name of a band he loves! Oooooh, spooky... and significant. Forget Quailspiracy, this is the real deal. Yea, it is written that Eb *shall* dismiss the Dead out of hand, and patent the 'clippety-cloppety brainfry beat' criticism, ruthlessly annihilating all who stand in his way. Give it up, Ben. You cannae change the law of anagrams. A burning question from my childhood: what *are* those corn on the cob holders called, lj? Or anyone? They *must* have a name... As for comic strips, did anyone mention Too Much Coffee Man, and his trusty sidekicks Too Much Espresso Guy and Too Much White German Chocolate Girl with Almonds? Their endlessly paranoid inertia, coupled with free-floating anxiety, make me feel that I'm not alone in the world... Danielle, whose favourite anagram for her own name is 'Rule a Demonical Area' NP Throwing Muses, The Curse. Why does the library own this when I don't, dammit? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 20:50:25 +2910 From: dlang Subject: Re: i knows a proggie when i smells one EB sed Sonic Youth/A Thousand Leaves, which Dead fans actually oughta like So they should, some members of sonic Youth are deadheads, thay were very inspired by the deads use of feedback in the late 60's. then he sed, "Yeah, that IS a good song!" Others chose to fixate on the negative subtext...like you. And my initial one- or two-sentence comment really didn't waste much of my time, you know. It was fending off your lengthily composed, indignant, getting-upset-about-something-you-don't-like rebuttals which ate up a few more minutes. yeah, but who made the negative comment in the first place, and then chose to reply at length . No one is forcing you to respond any more than anyone else is forcing me to.. C'mon Eb, you enjoy this !, or if you don't you certainly don't learn from your mistakes. You know full well that if you diss the dead some of us will come back at you. However, I for one am just going to ignore your negative comments from now on I hope other deadheads do so too as the discussion is futile. dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:32:59 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: Comics/makkies >Excuse me if I am skipping around here a bit, but has anyone mentioned >"Makkies"?? I think that is the spelling. Stranger readers will know >where I am coming from. It is a NY-based (I think) artist that is >beyond surreal compare at times. "Maakies" is a comic strip by local NY artist Tony Millionaire. It's WIERD, and it often makes no sense. It features the always-irreverent adventures of a drunken bird. One time he got drunk, and drove over a whole bunch of *rabbits*. This week, he sat on a cliff, looked at the "ingredients" in his gun, and then in the last panel blew his brains out. The funny thing about Tony Millionaire is that every week in The NY Press (paper where it runs), someone writes a letter rhapsodizing at length about Tony Millionaire's BALLS (how big they are, what they're made of, etc.). It is like some kind of running joke. lj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 22:06:37 +2910 From: dlang Subject: Re: what woj sed James let the ewe out of the bag! >must not be enough sheep to go around in new zealand. ;) you leave Flossie out of this! Erm..that is...I...uh... Got a little thing going on the side eh james? This reminds me of Woody Allens " Everything you wanted to know about sex" where Gene Wilder has an affair with a sheep. theres a classic scene where the press burst into a sleazy hotel room where Wilder is in his knickers and the sheep is on the bed in stockings and suspenders. Wider gives up everything for her, family , career..... James will you go this far? EYWTKASex is a slightly spotty film overall but it does have its moments, the chastity belt scene and Woody as a sperm in the last scene about to be ejaculated and speculating wildly about whats out "there" when they all die in their attempts to swim towards the ovulating mass ahead.I like this sort of stuff. However,I really only seem to like early Woody films, who disagrees, agrees, or is bothered to talk about the bespectacled one ?. Dave Np. Richard Thompson, Glasgow 98- a little ripper you bloody bludgers! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:44:57 -0500 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: God's comic woj sez, >>Anyway, no doubt woj and I will fight brutally about Tori and Ani "Gosh, >>I'm punk-rock" DiFranco at the FegFest, so stay tuned for updates on on the >>ultraviolence. > >woo hoo! bring on the nachos! We can charge admission! >(at least we agree on...oops! never mind! _the big express_ rules!) Hey, I like "The Big Express." I can sing "All You Pretty Girls" by heart and may just do so (until my inevitable arrest for noise ordinance violations). >I also like Foxtrot, Dilbert, Calvin and Hobbes, Bloom County, and Robot >Man, which I swear is stolen from a little known kids merchandising >franchise a la Rainbow Brite. Life in Hell, Red Meat, and Tom Tomorrow >satisfy my dark side. Family Circus makes me retch. Tom Tomorrow rocks - and, in fact, was the comic that clued me in to the fact that Dilbert artist Scott Adams *supports* corporate downsizing (gets rid of stupid people, he claims). But I won't go there. At least Adams was cool enough to have a cameo on "Babylon 5" - complaining to security chief Garibaldi that his pets were trying to take over the world... For haters of Family Circus (and who isn't?), try Dysfunctional Family Circus - http://www.spinnwebe.com/dfc/ , in which contributors invent horrible, dark, and funny captions for the original repulsive cartoons. (I have no idea why they haven't gotten sued yet.) The humor is usually on a "South Park" level, but I like that kind of thing. n. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:35:58 +0100 (BST) From: boodle boodle boodle Subject: comic strips adding my own opinions to the comic strip mullarkey. personally i think "calvin and hobbes" pretty much unbeatable. it really managed to expertly conjure up a part of you that remembered what it was like to be six. great stuff. i'm also rather partial to steve bell's "if.." in the guardian. whatever little plot there used to be (all that stuff about teh penguins seems to have long gone) has ben replaced by some genuinely hilarious satire. great stuff. "great pop things" is truly wonderful. if you can get your hands on the book that was published a few years ago do so if only for the sex pistols story told in the style of oliver twist. it works i tell you. this weeks is the bow wow wow story - great stuff. i think teh best comic strip i have ever seen was "krazy kat" - the guardian reprinted it for a while and i remember reading bill watterson going on about how wonderful it was. i don't remember much of it and can find no copies of the strip anywhere but i just seem to remember how surreal it was for its time. if anyon else can remember it better.... good to see soem xtc fans on the list. we need comforting now dave gregory has left... chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:54:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Rich Plumb Subject: Renaissance and Cartoons I was a big fan of this group in their heyday. Had all their albums including the Yardbirds spinoff with a different woman singer, etc. Saw them once at Nassau Coliseum in about 76 or 77 with Jean-Luc Ponty as the the opener. My memory of it is pretty dim, but I enjoyed it. Use dejanews to search the newsgroup rec.music.progressive and you will see scads of info. I'm pretty sure Annie Haslam, their singer has been attempting a comeback. Our Hero has drawn some mighty fine little cartoons on his records. I think he could have had a great career in it if he'd pursued it. I can just see it now Brenda and Reg with their pet anglepoise lamp now on coffee mugs, calendars and toasters everywhere. rich ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:36:48 -0500 From: mbrage@surgery.bsd.uchicago.edu (Michael Brage) Subject: Happy Birthday, Bayard Happy birthday to Bayard. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:52:59 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: Happy Birthday, Bayard >Happy birthday to Bayard. Yes yes yes!!!!! H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y ! ! ! ! Bayard, you RULE!!! You are cooler than The Big Lebowski!!! You are even cooler than POLITICKING, NAZIs, and THE BEACH BOYS!!!! (AND WHAT COULD BE COOLER THAN THOSE FAT OLD FUCKS?) lj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:49:55 -0600 From: hal brandt Subject: Woody Allen dlang wrote: > This reminds me of Woody Allens " Everything you wanted to know about > sex" where Gene Wilder has an affair with a sheep. theres a classic > scene where the press burst into a sleazy hotel room where Wilder is in > his knickers and the sheep is on the bed in stockings and suspenders. Yeah, but the real payoff is the great last shot of that vignette where Wilder is seen on Skid Row swilling a bottle of Woolite! > However,I really only seem to like early Woody films, who disagrees, > agrees, or is bothered to talk about the bespectacled one ? All of the Woodman's films are worth seeing. Sure, the earlier ones may have more jokes per minute, but he's still at the top of his form and prolific as hell. And, before you bash the Woody/Soon-Yi relationship, check out the new documentray "Wild Man Blues". /hal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:10:25 -0400 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Fwd: Woody Allen From: hal brandt: >Yeah, but the real payoff is the great last shot of that vignette where >Wilder is seen on Skid Row swilling a bottle of Woolite! Or, as they say in the court, "What disturbs us is not that he was with a sheep, but that the sheep was underage." Heh. ObRobyn content: I have a Robyn t-shirt with a drawing about the lyric "He'd never make love to a loaf of bread unless he found one in his bed", which is an allusion, of course, to the scientist in the movie's assertion that he "forced a man to make love to a large rye bread" (cut to scene of dazed but amused man humping a large loaf of bread) and "It was I who proved you could make a man impotent by hiding his hat." Anybody else have this t-shirt? Anyone care to discuss the correlation between that quote about hats and Robyn's always drawing hats on his albums? From: dlang: >> However,I really only seem to like early Woody films, who disagrees, >> agrees, or is bothered to talk about the bespectacled one ? I lost interest after "Crimes and Misdemeanors." "A strange man defecated on my sister" was a good line, tho. From: hal brandt: >All of the Woodman's films are worth seeing. Sure, the earlier ones may >have more jokes per minute, but he's still at the top of his form and >prolific as hell. And, before you bash the Woody/Soon-Yi relationship, >check out the new documentray "Wild Man Blues". You know, I used to love Allen's films, but the whole Woody/Soon-Yi thing just freaked me out too much. But hey, that's me. Atom Egoyan has filled that niche just fine. As a matter of fact, you know in "Love and Death" (I think), when Diane Keaton's character asks the old priest what the secret of life is, and he says, "Blond 12-year-old girls"? Well, that's not funny to me anymore since the Soon-Yi thing. And I tend to agree that most of Allen's films are autobiographical. YMMV, of course. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:16:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Woody Allen On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, hal brandt wrote: > All of the Woodman's films are worth seeing. Sure, the earlier ones may > have more jokes per minute, but he's still at the top of his form and > prolific as hell. And, before you bash the Woody/Soon-Yi relationship, > check out the new documentray "Wild Man Blues". And even if you still want to bash the Woody/Soon-Yi relationship, or some other aspect of Woody's personal life, try not to think about it while you're watching his movies. Otherwise you'll cheat yourself out of some very enjoyable flicks. How many steps does it take to connect Woody Allen, musically, to Robyn? 24 hours later and my chalk Thoth is still visible.... - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 98 10:20:41 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: more comic stripping On 4/28/98 8:08 PM, Christopher Gross wrote: >BTW, does anyone besides me think that "B.C." has slid over the line into >right-wing propaganda, and should be relegated to the editorial page the >way "Doonesbury" was during the Reagan era? Absolutely. I stopped reading it years ago when that peg-legged baseball coach started waxing prophetic about the evils of legalized abortion. gimme a break. Let me add one more fave: "Steven" by Doug Allen. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:28:29 -0700 From: "Laurence Roberts" Subject: Rambling Syd Rumpo Who's a British folksinger who sings songs with rather nonsensical words? I have a different answer than the obvious one for this list. Has there been mention in the past in these parts of Rambling Syd Rumpo? He was a character played on the radio show Round the Horne by Kenneth Williams. He sang songs such as "Green Grow My Nadgers Oh." Currently what is available is a double cassette of Rambling Syd's songs, but it's hard to get in the U.S. It's fairly easy to find in the UK, though. See http://www.massey.ac.nz/~DNMuir/music/greengbf.txt http://clever.net/quinion/words/nadgers.htm Larry-bob larrybob@io.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 98 10:34:22 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Fwd: Woody Allen On 4/29/98 10:10 AM, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: >ObRobyn content: I have a Robyn t-shirt with a drawing about the lyric >"He'd never make love to a loaf of bread unless he found one in his bed", >which is an allusion, of course, to the scientist in the movie's assertion >that he "forced a man to make love to a large rye bread" (cut to scene of >dazed but amused man humping a large loaf of bread) and "It was I who >proved you could make a man impotent by hiding his hat." > >Anybody else have this t-shirt? Anyone care to discuss the correlation >between that quote about hats and Robyn's always drawing hats on his albums? Yes, I have this shirt also. I don't really know where to go with the hat discussion... - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:40:48 -0700 From: Jason Thornton Subject: Re: Fwd: Woody Allen (0% Fat Old F*cks content) At 01:10 PM 4/29/98 -0400, "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." wrote: >ObRobyn content: I have a Robyn t-shirt with a drawing about the lyric >"He'd never make love to a loaf of bread unless he found one in his bed", >which is an allusion, of course, to the scientist in the movie's assertion >that he "forced a man to make love to a large rye bread" (cut to scene of >dazed but amused man humping a large loaf of bread) and "It was I who >proved you could make a man impotent by hiding his hat." > >Anybody else have this t-shirt? I do. Autographed. Doesn't fit anymore, though...I think it shrank. I remember Robyn stating that he didn't like signing the shirt, because he thought the signature would "interfere with the art." I think I said "fine," and made him sign it anyhow. He then proceeded to autograph the first page of someone else's "Bloom County" book. No joke. - -- Jason R. Thornton // Chapman Stick, Silver #2125 "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson *** Capitalism and democracy are not synonymous *** ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #168 *******************************