From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #165 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, April 28 1998 Volume 07 : Number 165 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Comic Strips [Terrence M Marks ] RH for Prime Minister [M R Godwin ] Re: Renaissance (0% US-Bashing) [M R Godwin ] Re: peter gabriel [M R Godwin ] Re: more brain-teaser [M R Godwin ] Re: off topic- gig listings [Gary Assassin ] lou reed (no RH content, except second-hand) [dwdudic@erols.com (David W.] defending some horde bands [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #164 [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] The Tori-bate continues [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: more brain-teaser [Rich Plumb ] Re: obligitory monthly Dead wars (was: Peter Gabriel) [dlang ] Re: brain-teaser & REM [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Fwd: i wish i were a hippie ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 05:37:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Comic Strips Relevance: Robyn H ("Flesh #1")->Glenn Tilbrook("East Side Story")->Elvis Costello("Veronica")->Paul McCartney("All You need is love")->Brian Wilson(Smile)->Van Dyke Parks("Popeye", "Duit on mon dei"->Harry Nilsson("Cuddly Toy")->Mike Nesmith(That MTV-like thing he did on Nickelodeon)->various MTV execs(The Real World 3)->Judd Winick(Frumpy the Clown) (Which gives most comic strip artists a Robyn number of about 15 and a Kevin Bacon number of about 11 [Nilsson is 2 away from Bacon]) As an aspiring comic-stripper, I'd like your-all opinions on comic strips, that's all. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:13:01 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: RH for Prime Minister Here's a neat one if you allow Mark Ellen as an RH connection (I'm not sure if he actually appears on any record, but he is a big fan). Robyn Hitchcock Mark Ellen (former member of Ugly Rumours) Tony Blair (ditto) - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:06:19 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Renaissance (0% US-Bashing) On Sat, 25 Apr 1998, Terrence M Marks wrote: > I've recently discovered this cool, old, band called Renaissance, and I'd > like to suggest that any of you who find cheap copies around go and buy > them. I can't think of a good way to describe them, they're sort of > orchestral prog-pop... [Supertramp reference snipped here - ugh!] > Anyhow, I think you ought to buy it. There are two generations of this band. The first generation featured Keith Relf (ex-Yardbirds), his sister Jane Relf, pianist John Hawken (ex-Nashville Teens) and bassist Louis Cennamo (there must have been a drummer too). I saw them a couple of times and they were good, but the bass player insisted on doing a long fuzz bass solo which ruined the atmosphere. I've got their album somewhere. Keith Relf was electrocuted in a studio accident and the original band folded. The second generation band was originally called Renaissance II, but they soon dropped the 'II'. It featured a fabulous vocalist called Annie Haslam, who had a UK hit with 'Northern Lights'. A quick net search reveals the following websites: http://user.mc.net/jtl/nlights/index.htm http://www.concentric.net/~gproctor/renaiss.html - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:16:22 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: peter gabriel On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, Eb wrote: > By the way, I was just playing a new double-disc compilation of the Paul > Butterfield Blues Band. If any of you godforsaken Deadheads haven't heard > Butterfield's song "East-West" (13 minutes of raga-esque blues jamming), > you really oughta. Cuts anything I've heard by the Dead to ribbons. Damn right! Butterfield must be the world's most psychedelic harmonica player. And the clone 'Eastern Jam' by Country Joe and the Fish is pretty good too. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:31:10 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: more brain-teaser On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, Richard Plumb wrote: > 3 brain-teasers from my collection: > Gong - You [snip] I thought that was called 'You are Gong and Gong is you'. But perhaps that's just a subtitle. - - Octave Doctor Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:27:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary Assassin Subject: Re: off topic- gig listings I live in the wasteland we call Long Island, and there is really no way to find this out, other than to get the Village Voice, which is the absolute best source. You can go online and look at the Village Voice, but it usually only has a 1 week listing. ------------------------------------ If you have a condom and sunscreen SPF 15 or greater, than it's safe to look at http://www.panix.com/~gsa/index.html On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, Michael Hooker wrote: > hi, > does anyone know of a web site with good gig listings? i am in the NYC > area , and the locals papers dont often list shows until the week the are > playing, and by then tickets are sometimes gone. > > thanks, > Mike Hooker > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:29:31 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: lou reed (no RH content, except second-hand) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:35:02 EDT For all the Velvet's fans on the list (anyone see the VU movie at U of MD two weeks ago?) -luther From: Light540 Subject: FYI - Patti sighting on doc. PBS Series To Feature Lou Reed .c The Associated Press By FRAZIER MOORE NEW YORK (AP) - As Lou Reed says in one of his songs, he's a mirror reflecting what we are. And he does it now as vividly as ever. Still embodying the spirit of rock 'n' roll after three decades, Reed seems exempt from burnout, selling out and term limits. His music remains untamed, his words unminced. If he is old by rock standards, so be it: In his hands, rock has never been kid stuff. All this makes him a natural for ``American Masters,'' whose latest installment is ``Lou Reed: Rock and Roll Heart.'' Produced by Timothy Greenfield-Sanders, it airs on PBS Wednesday at 10 p.m. EDT. Here is a bracing look at the man who formed the Velvet Underground as part of Andy Warhol's Swingin' '60s arts scene and now, at the new millennium, still raises his brawny voice in the service of the avant-garde. In the film David Bowie, a past collaborator, says Reed ``gave us the environment in which to put our more theatrical vision.'' Czech President Vaclav Havel credits Reed's influence with a ``special social role'' in that country's transformation. Even more to the point, Warhol superstars Holly Woodlawn and Joe Dallesandro do a campy turn singing the verses they inspired in the Reed anthem ``Walk on the Wild Side.'' And reflecting the unabashed joy of the film, famously glum singer Patti Smith is captured ... laughing. Meanwhile, Reed has plenty to say for himself, often with wry humor. For instance, he recalls a studio session for the Velvets' 1967 album, ``White Light/White Heat,'' when their engineer groused, ``I don't have to listen to this. I'll put it in 'record,' and I'm leaving. When you're done, come get me.'' There are still those who choose not to listen to Reed. But those who do can savor a Reed-ing rainbow within a single album - say, the 1996 ``Set the Twilight Reeling.'' There's his caustic nostalgia in the song ``Egg Cream.'' His romantic bent in ``The Proposition'' (``The way AIDS needs a vaccine, somewhere a vaccine needs AIDS ... We were meant to be''). Not to mention his sly explanation for arch-conservative values in ``Sex with Your Parents.'' For an artist who has prospered as a testy outsider, irony resounds at his being lionized on public television, somewhat of a safe haven more readily identified with British drama, Ken Burns epics and John Tesh's rabid Muzak. ``It's odd being on PBS,'' Reed admits, ``but I don't have any problem with it. Besides, I like the film. A lot of the footage I'd never seen before, and it was really interesting.'' Dressed in his usual black, he has welcomed a reporter to his spanking white office on lower Broadway. Now he shuts the window against the perfect day and cranks up the air conditioner. The timing of ``Rock and Roll Heart,'' he says, has no valedictory overtones. Far from retiring at age 56, he has a new album, ``Perfect Night: Lou Reed Live,'' and he's writing the next. ``I'm pawing the ground,'' he says, ``ready for a sprint down the track, just with experience from before.'' So the artist who long ago helped define the edge keeps re-defining it. How? ``I haven't a (doggone) clue,'' Reed replies, his adjective saltier, his face wearing a whaddaya-want-from-me? grin. ``For me, the edge is in the writing,'' he says in a voice barely audible above the AC's hum. The edge is in his effort to join the company of writers who inspired him, like Burroughs and Ginsberg and Chandler - ``to try to grab the tail of that comet.'' But after all these years and 30-some-odd albums, isn't it increasingly hard to be as good today as yesterday? ``Not as good as,'' says Reed, upping the ante - ``better than.'' Meaning pressure? ``Way beyond pressure.'' And yet, when it comes to popularity, he has always kept his expectations in check. ``I never really figured on much,'' he says, fixing the reporter with seen-it- all eyes. ``Who knew this would be a career? Who knew people would listen with such interest? Certainly not me.'' Maybe that accounts for the purity of Reed's artistic mission. He has never tried to cash in on his legend, never pandered to his fans. He says he never knew how. ``I'm trying to write for me, under the assumption that we're all kind of the same,'' he explains. ``If I can write something that I think has an intrinsic worth to it, and grace, then maybe you'll like it, too.'' And what if I don't? ``I tried.'' Just how much, and how triumphantly, is what ``Rock and Roll Heart'' is about. - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:41:55 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: defending some horde bands On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 04:59:32 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > >caveat empor: I am not a hippie or a neo-hippie. I do not listen to Phish, >Blues Traveler, Dave Matthews, etc. I don't do drugs. I do major in music >in college, so someday I should have a paper that shows I know what I'm >talking about. > >------------------------------ I gotta jump in about the HORDE bands...some of them are actually quite good...while John Popper couldn't write a really decent lyric or PLAY a MELODY on his harp to save his fat ass (how DOES one let themselves go that badly? don't he know that much weight will kill him?), Phish and Dave Matthews write some pretty decent tunes, and play rather adventuresomely live. And, no, I am not a "frat boy" (I *was* talking about the concept of the artist as a 'white nigger' a little while ago, for god's sakes!), and I do NOT do any drugs (well, except tylenol...). I CERTAINLY am not a hippie (wearing a Richard Thompson t-shirt tends to disqulaify one for hippieness. I just think the above bands write good tunes. (and Phish, for that matter, gets a bit Robynesque lyrically at times...plus, those harmonies sound suspiciously at times like, let's see, what was that band who did a song about a woman named Sandra having her brain out....:-) -luther ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:46:31 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #164 On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 04:59:32 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: >Nope. Untoppable winner: "P," by P. :) > >(If you don't know, P is a Butthole Surfers offshoot, with help from actor >Johnny Depp. The album's not too good frankly, but eh, I keep it around to >flesh out my Buttholes collection.) the Guy who played Ed Wood on an album? I can see the song titles now... ..."Pull the strings!".."Perfect! (cut and print)"..."survivor from 21 jump street"..."do you know my poetry (dead man squawking)?"... etc... :-) -luther ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:03:11 -0500 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: The Tori-bate continues woj rumbles, >funny, i feel the exact opposite. robyn's a fairly rational person when you >chat with him, but pulls out all the eccentric englishman stops on stage. >tori, on the other hand, is brain-baked all the time (yeah, i'm sure there >is a touch of drugs involved -- she's very upfront about ayahuascha and >she's no stranger to the bong, though she professes a preference -- and >respect -- for hallucinogens). she's a loon whether being interviewed, >talking to fans, writing songs or whatever. she may be a flake, but i, at >least, don't believe it's an act. I think both Robyn and Tori flaunt their weirdness to a certain extent - and just because Robyn can turn his weirdness off and on at will doesn't mean it's an act. Robyn's weirdness, like Tori's, does occasionally come off as self-conscious, as on one live tape I have where he lapses into gibberish and then adds brightly, "I don't do drugs. Do you?" But the difference between them, as I said, is that Tori comes off as so desperately attention-seeking and self-serving. "Oh thank you, you who are the song." That streak of arrogance - "I'm special because I'm an artist" - - is what rubs me the wrong way. I'm not saying her weirdness is an act, either - that stuff has to come from *somewhere* - but the fact that she flaunts it all the time does seem like an effort to get attention, like a precocious kid mouthing off at the dinner table. Robyn does it too, but at least he knows when to stop. Anyway, no doubt woj and I will fight brutally about Tori and Ani "Gosh, I'm punk-rock" DiFranco at the FegFest, so stay tuned for updates on on the ultraviolence. n. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:53:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Rich Plumb Subject: Re: more brain-teaser On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, M R Godwin wrote: > > On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, Richard Plumb wrote: > > 3 brain-teasers from my collection: > > Gong - You > [snip] > > I thought that was called 'You are Gong and Gong is you'. But perhaps > that's just a subtitle. > > - Octave Doctor Mike Godwin > > The album has always been just "You". The above quote is a lyric from a song on that record. rich ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:40:11 +2910 From: dlang Subject: Re: obligitory monthly Dead wars (was: Peter Gabriel) Eb quoth… Cuts anything I've heard by the Dead to ribbons. > Just how much have you heard by the Dead EB?, what ARE your credentials, just what is your yardstick?- Steal your face"? "Reckoning", concert tapes, one, two, twenty or fifty shows? I could point you to moments from obscure shows that never got released on Cd which shread anything Butterfield ever did.I used to have East West and its a great album but it can't hold a candle to some of the jams from 68/69.I bet you the butterfield band never went into some of the spaces the Dead looked into over the years .Listen to a copy of 3-1-69 from Fillmore West, or a dozen other shows of the era. On 3-1-68 They play for about 90 mins nonstop and the music is just stunning, amphetamine driven full tilt crazy improvising, I've never had anyone not like this tape, but then knowing you Eb, theres always a first time,if you truly are a 100% critical Dead bigot ( which is even worse than a 100% uncritical dead fanatic ) then you will hate anything thay did on principal , whether its great or crap (and they were capable of both, often within the confines of the same show ). Go on, listen to Live Dead, Hundred Year Hall, Europe 72.From the vault one and two. Theres jamming from heaven on all of these cds if you can only listen with an open mind and some of the critics have finally recognised it.Of course this only ever happens when a band like the dead is deceased, they were too unfashionable when they were an active unit. . dave . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 9:08:44 -0400 From: MCINTYRE@pa.msu.edu Subject: re: Renaissance >From: M R Godwin >On Sat, 25 Apr 1998, Terrence M Marks wrote: >> I've recently discovered this cool, old, band called Renaissance, and I'd >> like to suggest that any of you who find cheap copies around go and buy >> them. I can't think of a good way to describe them, they're sort of >> orchestral prog-pop... >There are two generations of this band. The first generation featured >Keith Relf (ex-Yardbirds), his sister Jane Relf, pianist John Hawken >(ex-Nashville Teens) and bassist Louis Cennamo (there must have been a >drummer too). I saw them a couple of times and they were good, but the >bass player insisted on doing a long fuzz bass solo which ruined the >atmosphere. I've got their album somewhere. The first generation recorded two albums. _Kings And Queens_ was released on Elektra in the US. The second album was called _Illusion_ and was released with a gatefold cover in Germany and later released in England on Island in a regular sleeve. There is one cut on _Illusion_ that has the personnel morphing into the second version of the band. Both albums by the first version have been released on CD, and there is a CD version that combines the two albums. There is also an unofficial CD of live cuts and rarities as well as an unofficial video tape on the market. >Keith Relf was electrocuted in a studio accident and the original band >folded. They didn't fold; they regrouped under the name Illusion and released two albums. Both are available on CD and there is a CD version that combines the two albums. They later self-released the demo tapes for a third album that no label was willing to pick up. > The second generation band was originally called Renaissance II, >but they soon dropped the 'II'. It featured a fabulous vocalist called >Annie Haslam, who had a UK hit with 'Northern Lights'. A careful check of the songwriting credits on the early albums of the second generation will reveal credits to members of the first generation. It's a tangled history; Annie Haslam is now solo and the band is into a third generation with a new female vocalist. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:44:58 -0500 From: nicastr@idt.net (Ben) Subject: Re: Chord Counting >This is a soulless argument of Musoism. Or as I like to call it, >Chord-Counting. Also doesn't rate with me. And I do appreciate jazz, by the >way, so I guess I must be lacking some other faculty which prevents me from >grimacing every time I hear the Dead. > If you don't take in to account these "Chord Counting" qualities in music then you are displaying an ignorance of a large part of the language of music. Why did people go nuts over Charlie Parker and analyze every note of every solo he played? Because he what he was playing was like a harmonic revolution at the time. I'm sure to some people it just sounded like a bunch of fast notes, but of course those "in the know" realized what was going on. Like it or not, music does have a theoretical side to it that has shaped it's progression since the mideval era. It's only part of the picture, but an important one. >It's not an issue of jamming itself, but HOW they jam. As I already said, I >hate their compulsively polyrhythmic drumming style and those >feel-good-groovy bubbling tempos, and I don't care for Garcia's tinkly >guitar style. I do not like it, Sam I Am. > I am not trying to make you LIKE the Dead. Too many people like them already. My argument is with the statement that the Dead were musically "worthless". There are some musicians who's music I don't like, but I do respect them for the work they do even if it doesn't appeal to me. >PS And then I went digging in my old books and found.... > > Another flattering comment on the Dead from... >-- Dave Marsh, Rolling Stone Record Guide, 1983 (and note that Marsh is FAR >more of a patron of blues/roots music than I am) I don't know what the point of that comment from David Marsh was, if it was to show that there are other critics who hate the Dead, tell me something I don't know. Believe it or not, I have read some positive reviews of Dead albums written by non Deadheads (not many, I must say). I have a hard time respecting anything from Rolling Stone's record guide, as it is one of the prime examples of pretentious, holier-than-thou music critcisim on the face of the earth. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 02:18:20 -0700 From: Danielle Subject: Politics (but not very heated, more pretentiously wanky) and some other lighthearted stuff Oh bugger. Politics. From Capuchin: > I think what New Zealanders regard as their 'freedom' is far too > restrictive. I'm perfectly OK with the trade-off we make by not > socializing medicine and university and such. We all go home with a > little more in our paychecks and some people go without things. I'm > undoubtedly a have-not. I'm out of work, barely maintaining a residence > and I grew up very poor. Do I think the government should be handing me > things? Absolutely not. Should I be given breaks? Nope. That money > comes from somewhere... and I know it comes from people's pockets that > could maybe use it for something better; my priorities are not theirs.... The American View assumes people are > basically helpful and The New Zealand View assumes people are basically > selfish. In one system, people are given the choice about whether or not > they want to contribute to charities that might help out their fellow man > and in the other, people's money is taken away and distributed (in one > form or another) whether or not the individual wants his money taken for > that purpose. Man. Do you guys learn this speech by heart when you join libertarians-r-us, or something? I'm a cynical socialist, J. I don't think I want to drag out all my old arguments again, because no one ever wins. But I think you're dead wrong. So nyaaah. ;) And continues: > > I don't want to imply that all Americans feel as I do (look at eddie!) nor > > that all NZers feel as James does (look at... well, I don't know), Uh, not me. But you could look at any of New Zealand's major-party politicians since the New Right revolution from above began in 1984. Most subscribe to the philosophies which you espouse. There's no socialist democracy to come home to any more, Toto. Chris wrote: > At least under capitalism the right to private > property, which I think fulfills a natural human need, is respected; and > the more successful capitalist economies have produced better standards of > living than in any socialist country. Thank you for playing. Please do see New Zealand's standard of living in the late 60s (under the dreaded democratic socialist government, natch). A tad higher than y'all's, I believe. Interestingly, we now have one of the most 'pure' free-market capitalist economies in the world. Standard of living, you ask? Falling by the day. In any case, you have your wires crossed. It's utopian communism (a rather impractical philosophy) which argues that private property is unnecessary. Not socialism. >From Rich: > 2) New Zealand - I agree the nuclear thing was an abomination from the > wretched Reagan administration, but weren't an awful lot of Maoris > slaughtered in your past and aren't they still mostly living in poverty. Yup. No one's denying that one (in fact, one of my great-grandfathers may have killed one of my other great-grandfathers, in one of those weird historical twists). James has probably given you more historical background than you strictly needed :), but I think the point is this: New Zealand, much as I love it to bits, much as I find its history endlessly fascinating and significant in marking wider trends in Western society (hell, I've written umpteen thousands of words on that very subject), is a tiny colonial backwater. We're relatively unimportant in the grand scheme of things. Criticise us all you like - you might even be justified. But we aren't affecting events in most other countries simply by existing. The USA is arguably the most important country in the world, and the most powerful. Don't you think it can take a little analysis, a little criticism, a little historical revision? Because if it can't, its position must be more precarious than I thought... > 4) Beacon of freedom - While I'm sure it's a joke for more sophisticated > Europeans, this country still has 1.5 million immigrants a year many from > Europe and the Antipodes. Millions have come to escape from various wars > around the world in the last half century and have thrived. Don't you think that this kind of - I hesitate to say 'propaganda', but perhaps 'accepted ideology' is a part of what makes America so powerful? For example, immigration isn't exactly limited to the USA, when you think about it a bit more carefully. Millions settled in Canada, Australia, New Zealand; but the US is the only country in the world which emphasises that it's a 'land of immigrants' - you know, all that stuff about the melting pot, working together to forge a common national identity... it's very persuasive, and that's probably why it's worked so well. Perhaps we should have tried it. ;) Ken wrote: > just remember that the winners write history to make themselves look good. Hey - I resent that! I looked good *before* I started writing history! ;) And now, back to the music (but I'm not touching that Deadhead thread. I would not touch it in a plane. I would not touch it in a train). Natalie wrote: > It's not Tori's surreality that bugs me. I like surreality. It's the fact > that her brand of surreality, at least in interviews, often strikes me as > pretentious, forced, and extremely self-serving. Yay, exactly. And I like Tori, a fair bit. But sometimes, *urkh*. She makes me cringe with that stuff. Woj follows up with: > for whatever reason, by > whatever method, tori *connects* with these people on a metaphorical level. Um. I'm about to do something I hate, but I think it's justified. A lot of 'these people' are lonely young men. Do we really think it's all 'metaphorical'? James, post-rant, writes: > PS - I was desperately trying to think of a 3 or less character NZ album > title, but the shortest I've been able to come up with are Hail, Melt and > Blow, all by Straitjacket Fits. Anyone...? Dammit dammit dammit. Everything I have is packed in boxes. Eb already said Yes!! (but that's five if you count the exclamation marks)... um... the Finn Brothers album was just called Finn, right? Dam Native - KDRU (if you don't use the acronym in full). Aha! Two with three characters or less: Head Like a Hole - 13. Moana and the Moahunters - Rua. There must be more... >From tanter: > Kubrick replaces Jennifer Jason > Leigh in 'Eyes Wide Shut' Yes, yes, yes! I hoped he was going to when he asked her to reshoot all her scenes. The other members of my 'we like Kubrick but are consistently annoyed by JJL' group of friends *will* be pleased... ;) Has Hank the Angry Drunken Dwarf beaten Leonardo diCaprio in the People 'most beautiful' poll yet? I really want to know, and my server seems to be down. :) Danielle, a New Zealander with an American passport - the best of both worlds NP ...The Dandy Warhols Come Down. Hmmm. Oddly, I have absolutely no idea whether I like it or not, and it's the third time through ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:46:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: i wish i were a hippie why is everyone disavowing drug use and hippiedom? i'd rather hear some really cool drug experiences. i've been shopping for my perfect drug for some time now, but all i've found that works for me is music. so what say you? i hear small gallinaceous birds usually have a good trove stashed away... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:52:06 +0100 From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: brain-teaser & REM >>>>> "M" == MARKEEFE writes: M> On a CD single for something off the Green album (I'm M> pretty sure), I saw that R.E.M. song listed (as a b-side/extra M> track) as "Eleventh Untitled Song" Yep, was listening to 'Green' this morning whilst scanning stuff for work, and I realised that track 11 has to be one of my favourite R.E.M. songs. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:57:17 -0400 From: tanter Subject: you know it's spring when.... You, as did I, plant heliotrope in your garden!! Marcy :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:06:24 -0400 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Fwd: i wish i were a hippie Bayard asked: >why is everyone disavowing drug use and hippiedom? Because the very concept of responsible drug use has been unthinkable by the gubbmint. Yup. >i'd rather hear some really cool drug experiences. I'd tell you about the hallucinations I once had listening to "Messages of Dark," but Big Brother is out there, and He can access the list digests on the www, so I won't. >i've been shopping for my perfect drug for >some time now, but all i've found that works for me is music. Music. Drugs. Two great tastes that taste great together. Or so I've heard. > Topic? We don't need no stinking topic! >so what say you? i hear small gallinaceous birds usually have a good >trove stashed away... Erm, does that mean I'm a gallinaceous bird? That sounds weird. NP: Pavement, "Brighten the Corners" +++++++++++++++++ "What's that word for 'not smart'..?" + Gene Hopstetter, Jr. + -- Eric Duckman +++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #165 *******************************