From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #156 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, April 22 1998 Volume 07 : Number 156 Today's Subjects: ----------------- This Is Hardcore ["Alex Wettreich" ] "old english folkie"? [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] Re: #1 post-modern author [M R Godwin ] it Berns when I Pee [lj lindhurst ] colaberate [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] Re: #1 post-modern author [Tom Clark ] i was walking up 6th avenue... [Bayard ] Re: i was walking up 6th avenue... [Gary Assassin ] Re: i was walking up 6th avenue... [tanter ] NMH (20% Robyn Malcontent) [Terrence M Marks ] Re: i was walking up 6th avenue... ["Michael R. Runion" ] Ed's Rdeeming Qualities/Nest Move [MARKEEFE ] Rob Leas' Whereabouts (.00534% PL content) [Christopher Donnell ] Re: Ed's Rdeeming Qualities/Nest Move [dmw ] Re: One of those *impassioned* posts [Capuchin ] Re: Cone Alert! [Capuchin ] Re: Ed's Rdeeming Qualities/Nest Move [Tom Clark ] Re: Ed's Rdeeming Qualities/Nest Move [dmw ] Re: Until The End + soundtrack plug [Capuchin ] Paul's future [Chris ] Nick Harper ["Patrick L Welker" ] Re: i was walking up 6th avenue... [mbrage@surgery.bsd.uchicago.edu (Mich] me, Jarvis, Robyn [Gary Sedgwick ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 08:15:10 PDT From: "Alex Wettreich" Subject: This Is Hardcore I'll restrict myself to a few commments and sod off back to work, scrapping the exegesis originally intended.... Susan said, Notice that Peter Saville's >mentioned in the end credits, also that Chris Thomas was the producer for >this one and DC (I don't remember if he was on "His n Hers" but I suspect he >was there too). Actually Ed Buller, Suede's producer and ex-Psychedelic Furs keyboard wizard, produced His'n'Hers. To my ears, that album sounds much colder than DC, and lacks some of the melodic sparkle. I agree with Eb that Hardcore could have used a smidgen more tunefulness, but Jarvis seems pretty hellbent on pulling the rug out from underneath his career. The B-Sides to the "This Is Hardcore" single are great, especially The Professional, which deals with fame and music straightforwardly where the single does so metaphorically. At one point, Jarvis breathily (of course) says, "I'm just giving you what you want; another song about single mothers and sex". Incidentally, I'd just like to take this opportunity to point out that the song "This Is Hardcore" is absolutely astonishing. If and when you get around to relistening, Eb, I imagine that one will start to assume its proper proportions. Also notice >that the Jarvis collaborated with Barry Admason awhile back on a laugh out >loud wickedly funny track called "Set Your Controls for The Heart of The >Pelvis" :). Can't remember the name of the album, but someone here probably >can, I'm sure. Oedipus Schmoedipus, a pretty good record. "Oh Jarvis, you make us so hot we're going to burst." Irresistible. I suppose I ought to note at this point that I have a little Jarvis Cocker blow-up doll staring out the back windshield of my car. Alex, suddenly feeling very ashamed ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:36:39 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: "old english folkie"? On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:15:29 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > >I can't believe Robyn would ever wear a baseball cap. It's >not like he's an old English folkie hiding his bald spot or >anything like that. Hey! no cracking on Richard Thompson on this list! :-) -luther ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:34:48 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: #1 post-modern author Nice to hear from another Lloyd Alexander fan. Your reference to "yer man" James Joyce makes me wonder whether you are also aware of the great Flann O'Brien (aka Miles na cGopaleen, real name Brian O'Nolan). "At Swim-Two-Birds" and "The Third Policeman" are not like anything else I've ever read - surreal, ludic, funny. He died of drink in 1966, which must make him sort of a pre-post-modernist (or a proto-post-modernist)? - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:38:30 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: it Berns when I Pee 2, 2, 2 things, twice at once! ("It's so nice/is there a point?")(the answer to that is *no*) #1: Asking for a friend: Does anyone have copies of Dan Bern's first three tapes of songs? Supposedly, they're called something like, "Red," "Orange," and "Beige"??? I could be totally wrong here. Feel free to correct me. I know you will. #2: I got the Pee Shy album "Who Let All the Monkeys Out?" and it is very, very interesting. Sounds a bit like our beloved Throwing Muses (yeah, I heard they were pretty cool huh), only much more quirky, less fierce, with lots of synths and funny-sounding stuff. Sort of toothless, but interesting nonetheless. Does anyone know anything about them? Someone told me that they produced their first album on a four-track in their kitchen. Maybe they are friends with Jeff. lj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:36:04 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: colaberate On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:15:29 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: >Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:13:01 +1200 >From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) >Subject: Paul's next > >Paul McCartney is renowned for needing someone to bounce musical ideas off, >so the suggestion that Linda's death might lead to the end of his recording >career is not a silly one. However, I'm wondering whether he'll again call >on the two people he renewed his acquaintance with last year. What were >their names... George Harris and Ringly Stamp or something? well, they ar eall on ringo's next album. a BETTER thing, though...he could collabaorate with a certain Declan McManus again...a death-driven paul, elvis costello... could be majoc! -luther ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 98 10:02:39 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: #1 post-modern author On 4/21/98 8:34 AM, M R Godwin wrote: >Your reference to "yer man" James Joyce makes me wonder whether you are >also aware of the great Flann O'Brien (aka Miles na cGopaleen, real name >Brian O'Nolan). "At Swim-Two-Birds" and "The Third Policeman" are not like >anything else I've ever read - surreal, ludic, funny. He died of drink in >1966, which must make him sort of a pre-post-modernist (or a >proto-post-modernist)? His short stories are wonderful as well. "Two In One" is a hilarious story of a taxidermist who kills someone and assumes his identity by wearing the corpse's skin. Truly bizarre. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 13:21:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: i was walking up 6th avenue... So I spent a weekend in New York City. I got to meet my 25th feg and also had some rather fegsynchronous moments I'd like to share. My friend and I were just walking around, see. He was guiding me, obviously -- I had nothing to do with this. I was looking around innocently and noticed we were on a street called "avenue of the americas". I inquired of my friend, "is 6th avenue around here?" His reply: "We're walking up 6th avenue." That's not all. In a couple minutes he pointed out a building just beyond a little grassy area with loads of people happily bouncing around. "That's the library. You know, the one with the stone lions." This triggered a memory of the "where is Bryant Park?" thread. So I asked about that. Yep. You guessed it. I didn't feel out of place. The next day I ended up in the same place with my other friend, just following him too, mind you. This time, we made a right on 44th. Walked down to Broome street and called LJ. Who, incedentally, is not only a real person, but probably the realest person I've ever met. And her art, though presented in only visual media, assaulted all my senses. It was, as they say, a good trip. Song analysis time: Did Robyn ever live in NYC? Is balloon man really simply about a time he was walking around eating a messy falafel? Or Is this yet another masturbation reference? (I didn't even think about that possibility for "lightbulb head" until luther brought it up.) What is the route of the macy's parade? And does anyone have that snippet of video of Robyn busking in NYC from MTV so long ago? anyone even see this? I haven't seen more than maybe 5 hours of MTV in my life, but i was over at a friend's who always has the TV on, and was suprised to see robyn on a sidewalk being ignored. (i was surprised he was playing on the diewalk, not that he was ignored.) ps. my friends are robyn-friendly, but not knowledgeable that they could have brought me to the balloon man sites a-purpose. it was all happy chance and happenstance. =b np: Duke Ellington, _the duke's men vol 2: 1938-1939_, 'carnival in caroline' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:21:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary Assassin Subject: Re: i was walking up 6th avenue... > down to Broome street and called LJ. Who, incedentally, is not only a > real person, but probably the realest person I've ever met. And her art, > though presented in only visual media, assaulted all my senses. LJ is the coolest! > Song analysis time: Did Robyn ever live in NYC? Is balloon man really > simply about a time he was walking around eating a messy falafel? Or Is My fiedn is under the impression that Baloon Man IS about the MAcy's parade through the eyes of a child. You know, the references to marchmallows, etc. A kid sees these huge floating objects and may relate them to baloons. I don't know. I just wanted to post a message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:39:28 -0400 From: tanter Subject: Re: i was walking up 6th avenue... At 04:21 PM 4/21/1998 -0400, you wrote: > >My fiedn is under the impression that Baloon Man IS about the MAcy's >parade through the eyes of a child. You know, the references to >marchmallows, etc. A kid sees these huge floating objects and may relate >them to baloons. I don't know. I just wanted to post a message. I've always thought it was just about condoms.... Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:33:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: NMH (20% Robyn Malcontent) After having borrowed NMH's "On Avery Island", i have three observations: 1) If you look at the word "island" upside-down on the cover, it looks a lot like it says "pubis". (A friend of my brother's noticed that...) 2) Were you to make a good ska cover of The Monkees' "Randy Scouse Git", it would sound rather like "A song agaisnt sex". 3) I'm not *too* keen on it. How do their other albums compare? Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:48:53 -0700 From: "Michael R. Runion" Subject: Re: i was walking up 6th avenue... Bayard wrote: > And does anyone have that snippet of video of Robyn busking in NYC from > MTV so long ago? anyone even see this? I haven't seen more than maybe 5 > hours of MTV in my life, but i was over at a friend's who always has the > TV on, and was suprised to see robyn on a sidewalk being ignored. (i was > surprised he was playing on the diewalk, not that he was ignored.) I just so happen to have that one. In fact, I've snipped just the audio onto a few tape trades as filler now and again. I will most definitely put in on my list of things to drag halfway across the country to the Fegfest at TGQ's house! It's rather short (a few minutes or less), but cool. Yes, it's Robyn hanging around on street corners and people just walking past ignoring him or giving him really strange looks as he sings bits of Cynthia Mask and babbles before the MTV cameras. Circa 1990. Oh, another cool note. There's this guy Rob over on Rail On! (a Julian Cope message-board thingy). Rob, are you here too? Anyway, he used to be in this band called The Punch Line (they did "Bandwagon" on the REM tribute album some years back). He's got this song called "Robyn Hitchcock's Clothes" that the band recorded and I'm trying to get him to send me the lyrics. Should be a hoot at least. I'll let you know. - -- ******* Mike Runion email: mrrunion@palmnet.net *** * Virtual Cone Museum * * http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/cones.htm * * Globe Of Fegs * * http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/fegmaps/ * ********************************************************* "Wait a minute! Time for a Planetary Sit-In!" - Julian Cope ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:15:29 -0700 From: "Michael R. Runion" Subject: Cone Alert! Hey all, Just got done loading up Cone #19 to the Virtual Cone Museum (see URL below). It's been a while since we've had a new exhibit. This one here is entitled "A Right Quizzical Fly" and is brought to you by our own Chris Wallace. Come one, come all... Hey, whose got the signed plastic tomato from Austin? Could this please be our next exhibit? - -- ******* Mike Runion email: mrrunion@palmnet.net *** * Virtual Cone Museum * * http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/cones.htm * * Globe Of Fegs * * http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/fegmaps/ * ********************************************************* "Wait a minute! Time for a Planetary Sit-In!" - Julian Cope ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:21:04 EDT From: MARKEEFE Subject: Ed's Rdeeming Qualities/Nest Move Okay, someone posted something about Ed's Redeeming Qualities not too long ago, and I didn't pay too much attention then (sorry) -- just didn't have any context at the time. But now I'm wanting some informed opinions about their albums. This because we rented the movie "Ed's Next Move" a couple of nights ago and came to realize that the featured band in the movie is ERQ. The movie was really good, cute, and quirky, and so were the ERQ songs being performed in the movie. So, I've done a small amount of research on them, and it looks like 3 of the 4 songs from the movie (including the one that's most prominantly featured, "More Hard Times" -- "You got divorced, so I married you"/"You fell off a cliff, so I buried you") are on their first album, "More Hard Times (1990), which featured their principal songwriter, who died around that same time (although I guess they still play and record some of his songs). Their most recent album, 1996's "At the Fish & Game Club" features the newest addition to the band, some guy who plays clarinet and accordion and other cool stuff. Okay, after all of that background info, I'll get to the real crux of my question: Which album should I start off with? Should I get the album that has the songs on it that I know and like from the movie, or should I get the newer album with the line-up that I liked from the movie? Ultimately, I'm hoping someone on the list has everything they've ever done and will give me a good idea of which one to start off with. My wife and I were certainly enchanted with what we saw of them in "Ed's Next Move", so I'm anxious to get something that sounds at least very close to what I heard in the film. Well, that was the most drawn-out way I could possibly think of asking what I wanted to ask. Thanks for any info, Dudes and Dudettes! - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:23:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Donnell Subject: Rob Leas' Whereabouts (.00534% PL content) I was wondering if anyone aound here knew of Rob Leas' whereabouts. He (much like myself) used to be around quite some time ago (he was quieter than I was) but then he moved from here (Phoenix) to the big city (New Yawk) and I never heard from him again (well, I did once) - All that aside I appear to be following in his footsteps and figured I'd attemt to track him down.. thus this message.. Thanks a billions.. == Christopher Donnell Hmmm.. you might as well check out my homepage at http://chrisdonnell.home.ml.org _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:35:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "Chris, the missing years." Subject: A word on a small matter... Hey-- Just arrived back from SF, having attended to much lauded Terrastock (which was beyond brilliant) and purchased a Autographed Robyn item. It seems that Someone sold their signed copy of QE. This may not seem like much, and it really is not. Although, it is signed "Uncle Bob" and has some little drawings on it. If I scan it does anyone want it for a web page?? Or for yourself?? Let me know .chris (who is glad to see that the wa of words began after he left and quit before he came back :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:55:27 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: Ed's Rdeeming Qualities/Nest Move On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, MARKEEFE wrote: > newer album with the line-up that I liked from the movie? Ultimately, I'm > hoping someone on the list has everything they've ever done and will give me a bingo. i'm not at all sure you'll be able to >find< copies of _more bad times_ and _it's all good news_ , which i think are out of print, but if i had to pick only one ed's record to have, "times" would indeed be it. of the much-easier-to-find slow river albums, i prefer "fish" to "big grapefruit clean up job" although the latter does have their original version of "drivin' on 9" (also recorded by vocalist/guitarist/violinist carrie bradley's new band, the breeders). "grapefruit" is a live record and showcases their winsomeness pretty effectively. i mean, really, you need them all. they're stylistically pretty consistent, but the musicianship improves with time. dan leone is dom's brother, i'm pretty sure, by the way. - -- d. - - oh,no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmayowel@access.digex.net - - and dmw@mwmw.com ... get yr pathos at http://www.pathetic-caverns.com/ - - new reviews! tunes, books, flicks, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:03:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: One of those *impassioned* posts On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, lj lindhurst wrote: > Quail, I think I speak for everyone on the List when I say, why don't you > and Capuchin take your flirting to private email?!?! LJ, I'm sure I've asked this before, but will you marry me? > Mrs. Liam Fuck! Too late. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:27:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Cone Alert! On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Michael R. Runion wrote: > Just got done loading up Cone #19 to the Virtual Cone Museum (see URL > below). It's been a while since we've had a new exhibit. This one here > is entitled "A Right Quizzical Fly" and is brought to you by our own > Chris Wallace. Come one, come all... OK, so I'm torn. I wanted to be all cool and make a quicktime VR or some other nifty panoramic binary interpretation of my two finale cones (El Proximo Ultimo Cone and Twilight Of The Cones), but I think that's just plain not going to happen. So if I bring them to SF with me next week, will we photograph them? Can someone dedicate themselves to doing this? Would Keeper Of The Cones Runion like these in his museum? Fess up. > Hey, whose got the signed plastic tomato from Austin? Could this please > be our next exhibit? That'd be Ms. Zelda Pinwheel... There's a picture on the fegFOTOS! site (thanks Carole!) J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 98 17:31:19 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Ed's Rdeeming Qualities/Nest Move On 4/21/98 4:55 PM, dmw wrote: >i prefer "fish" to "big grapefruit >clean up job" although the latter does have their original version of >"drivin' on 9" (also recorded by vocalist/guitarist/violinist carrie >bradley's new band, the breeders). I guess I missed out on some Breeders news. Did Carrie Bradley step in for Kelly Deal? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 20:40:30 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: Ed's Rdeeming Qualities/Nest Move On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Tom Clark wrote: > I guess I missed out on some Breeders news. Did Carrie Bradley step in > for Kelly Deal? pretty much, yeah. bradley was in the amps touring band, and kim deal re-christened the amps the breeders (i don;t know for a fact, but guess, in large part because the amps weren't that much of a booking draw.) d. - - oh,no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmayowel@access.digex.net - - and dmw@mwmw.com ... get yr pathos at http://www.pathetic-caverns.com/ - - new reviews! tunes, books, flicks, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:38:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Until The End + soundtrack plug On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, amadain wrote: > This is very very true. I almost wonder if the "hit soundtrack" wasn't in > part put together for the financiers' benefit, because they'd invested a > lot of money in a film that was probably not going to be a blockbuster and > wanted to cover at least a bit of their ass. Since as you say, in general > Wenders uses soundtracks very very well, I'm thinking this might be an > explanation. There was an article about the soundtrack to Until The End Of The World in Rolling Stone several months before the release of the film. It was very obviously devised to sell well. J. -- who really liked the movie when it first openned and hasn't seen it since... I think I've already told the story of how the Director's Cut of Blade Runner was supposed to play at Cinema 21, but the new Wim Wenders film played instead so the marquee read "Blade Runner Postponed Until The End Of The World". ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 20:35:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Subject: Paul's future > Linda herself seemed to be a very good person, too. > One question: has anyone SEEN her photos? was her art any good? She's had at least one book of photos published. The bookstore I work at used to (may still) have a coffee table book or her photos. They were black and white photos of various rock stars. I believe all of them were taken in the 60s. They were very nice. I remember being impressed with them. If I'm remembering correctly, she did not use a flash for these, as it was less intrusive. The musicians would forget she was there, or get used to her being there, and were fairly relaxed as she took the pictures. > Here's a question: will Paul LIVE? I mean, I saw my Uncle die >soon after his wife...Considering how much they were one person, is it >possible that he may not be able to cope, and just die in his sleep? >people DO "die for love", you know...mental suicide. While people do lose the will to live after their spouse's die, isn't it more common in older people? Paul is still fairly young, 56, I think. So while I'm sure it will be horribly difficult to get over this, if he ever does, I doubt this will actually kill him. He still has 4 children who want him to live, and will try to help him recover. It would be terrible to have your mother die, and then watch your father wither and die, especially them both being so young. chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 00:47:25 -0400 From: "Patrick L Welker" Subject: Nick Harper Quick question, does anyone know if the new Nick Harper cd is any good? Due to the lack od worthwhile record stores, it looks like it's going to be an overseas order. I'd ahte to be disappointed. Thanx, Heruka ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:48:26 -0500 From: mbrage@surgery.bsd.uchicago.edu (Michael Brage) Subject: Re: i was walking up 6th avenue... >I just so happen to have that one. In fact, I've snipped just the audio >onto a few tape trades as filler now and again. I will most definitely >put in on my list of things to drag halfway across the country to the >Fegfest at TGQ's house! It's rather short (a few minutes or less), but >cool. Yes, it's Robyn hanging around on street corners and people just >walking past ignoring him or giving him really strange looks as he sings >bits of Cynthia Mask and babbles before the MTV cameras. Circa 1990. This video bit is on the second video compilation tape that was distributed about two years ago. It's listed as "Test Market for Eye in New York". Bayard, I know you must have it. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 18:12:55 +0100 From: Gary Sedgwick Subject: me, Jarvis, Robyn Hi everyone. It's been absolutely ages since I last posted anything to the list - work is *bad* at the moment. I wanted to ask a question to all those on the list who are musicians or in bands and release their own material, whether it's through a small label or independently. As some of you know, I've got a band going at the moment (we had our first London gig the other night), and I also do loads of home solo recording - I'll hopefully be finishing off another album of completely solo songs soon (one or two should be turning up on Gloss Fish). I was wondering if anyone had any useful tips or suggestions about getting songs released; please contact me (off-list if you think appropriate) with any ideas, experiences, dos and don'ts, etc. - - any feedback is appreciated. ObPulp: From what I've heard of the new album (which is only the singles so far), I haven't been impressed enough to run down to HMV and buy it. I don't the singles have compared to the ones from Different Class. Different Class is a great album from start to finish with some storming singles - I even reckon it would get the Eb seal of approval. His 'n' Hers is a fine album too - Babies and Do You Remember The First Time? are still classics. I've heard a few of the earlier albums, and I agree with Jarvis that the band's rise to fame coincided with the writing of much stronger material. One album is an exception though - Pulp Intro. It's a bit harder to find, but definitely worth snapping up if you see it. ObRobyn: I noticed there's been some discussion of what people's other halves think of Robyn. Well, I've just started going out with someone who'd never heard of him. I played her the 'hits' - Balloon Man, So You Think You're In Love, etc - nope, she'd definitely never heard any Hitchcock. I then put on I Something You - and she recognised it immediately!! And more recently, she heard me playing some tracks from Underwater Moonlight, and knew those too. I guess one of her mates must be into Robyn or something, but it's still a bit bizarre! Gary, happy cos he's in love with a beautiful girl ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #156 *******************************