From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #140 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, April 11 1998 Volume 07 : Number 140 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #138 [sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain)] Re: Kristin Hersh [Ross Overbury ] Re: SO's and RH [MARKEEFE ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #139 [Katherine Rossner ] robyn's sales [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] Semicoatedfragilebiscuit... [Nick Winkworth ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #139 [sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain)] Re: Semicoatedfragilebiscuit... [sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain)] Trip [Eb ] Rik Mayall hurt [tanter ] Big surprise (ha!) about George Michael (0% RH) [tanter ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:40:25 -0500 (CDT) From: sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #138 >She sounded a little interested, but nothing much. Last night, however, she >came out with the following gem: "I looked that Hitchcock guy up in a music >guide, and found out he's the guy that did that Madonna of the Wasps song! >I love that song, but I've never known who it was by!" > >Ah, sweet joys of life... I know we've had a thread about this before, but I dont really recall what the consensus was, if any, on this issue, namely- how many people's SOs like and/or appreciate RH. Mine sort of doesn't have much of an opinion one way or the other really- "I don't dislike it. I like some of the songs", sez he. Which I guess is not doing too bad, really, for him, since mainly the music he likes is blooz. Incidentally this can get to be a mite embarassing in conversations with some of my more "tragically hip" acquaintances who have never heard of say, Savoy Brown :). But I digress...... >Talkin' that people seem to remember him for... as for the Moody Blues, >their complete body of work is, strangely, justified for me by "Talking out >of Turn". Not sure why, it's probably not even one of their better songs, >but I love it. Hmm.....I don't "get" the Moody Blues, but I do like "Tuesday Afternoon". I suppose that's one of the songs they oughtn't be remembered for, though :). Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 98 13:34:44 EDT From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: Kristin Hersh Lobstie said: > > Just missed the KCRW interview with Kristin. I got home just in time to > hear her say goodbye. > > However, I found a new interview with her, and I just about cried reading > it. People should not drink alot of wine and then send an interview to the > internet. > > http://www.cmj.com/NewMM/QandA/hershchestnutt.html Take the "t" out and it works. http://www.cmj.com/NewMM/QandA/hershchesnutt.html - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:23:52 EDT From: MARKEEFE Subject: Re: SO's and RH In a message dated 98-04-10 13:02:57 EDT, you write: << I know we've had a thread about this before, but I dont really recall what the consensus was, if any, on this issue, namely- how many people's SOs like and/or appreciate RH. >> My wife definitely likes him. . . not quite as much as I do, but I was very pleased, when we first started going out, to find an LP of "Element of Light" in her collection. She's not into some of the mopier and/or whinier stuff that I like, but, hey, I can't really hold that against her. It's probably a good thing that only one of us has tendencies toward intense, morose, melancholic music. - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:25:01 -0400 From: Katherine Rossner Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #139 >From: M R Godwin >Subject: Ghosts (RH=0.02) > >Does anyone have any recommendations? I find that most of the more modern >stories have too much 'Rosemary's Baby' and/or 'Psycho' influence to be >really unsettling, but then I'm an old fogey. Have you read Robertson Davies? _High Spirits_ is the book of ghost stories, I think. (And then there's _The Papers of Samuel Marchbanks_, for fogeys' delight. **** >From: John Barrington Jones >Subject: Kristin Hersh > >Just missed the KCRW interview with Kristin. I got home just in time to >hear her say goodbye. > >However, I found a new interview with her, and I just about cried reading >it. People should not drink alot of wine and then send an interview to the >internet. > >http://www.cmj.com/NewMM/QandA/hershchestnutt.html Well, maybe somebody else thought so--I just tried to read it and got an error message saying it didn't exist. No, I'm not a fan of Kristin Hersh's--so far as I know, I've never heard her. But I wanted to find out what all you guys were talking about... Meanwhile I seem to have this list at the back of my head when I search through the cutout bins lately....and speaking of those, can anybody tell me about a band called Trip Shakespeare? Sorry if this shows extreme ignorance--you're probably accustomed to that from me by now, right?--but I don't know any of this stuff, and I admit to being a sucker for cute album titles when they're in the dollar bin. **** Katherine - -- Ye knowe ek, that in forme of speche is chaunge Withinne a thousand yere, and wordes tho That hadden pris, now wonder nyce and straunge Us thinketh hem, and yet they spake hem so. - Chaucer ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:06:03 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: robyn's sales On Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:53:06 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: >Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:45:18 -0400 (EDT) >From: Bayard >Subject: Re: Yngwie vs. Robyn > >On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, David W. (actually Luther) Dudich wrote: > >> Well, I don't think he's sold more than 5 records this entire >> decade...Robyn's sales may be 'modest' (is it true there are only >> 20,000 of us robyn fans in the US left?) > >what happened to the rest? One word: Nirvana. Geffen's massive publicity campaign behind "nevermind" (which is a good album, even if "come as you are rips off killing jokes' "80's" blind) made A&M decide to put their money on SOundgarden instead of Robyn. picked off by billy bragg fans at joint >concerts? i never knew.... this calls for some serious counterattack. well, 20,000 was the number that i think was on this list as total units shipped by warner bros. of 'moss elixr' in america...let's see, that comes out to about 400 fegs per state, i think, which seems about right for the size places he plays. let's face it, "college/alternative/whatever the fuck they call it these days" is NOT going to play him anymore... He is treated as an "80's musician". Rock and roll never remembers... :-) (Why I would never become a full time musician....) -luther ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:14:49 -0700 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: Semicoatedfragilebiscuit... Do any of you remember reading the "Mary Poppins" books as a kid? I didn't. I only knew the movie. Believe me, the books are *very* different! I just started reading the first of the series to my daughter and I'm very struck by how dark, surreal and Robyn-ish they are. In the chapter I just read, for example, Mary takes the children (in the book there are two babies in addition to Michael and Jane) into a shop which (as they discover later) doesn't exist. Behind the counter are two giantess sisters cowering in fear from their mother, a tiny shriveled stick-like woman, who claims to be as old as the creation of the world. She calms the babies, who were scared by the sisters, by breaking off two of her own fingers and giving them to them ("barley sugar" she says). When Michael wishes the fingers were mint sticks she replies "sometimes they are, I never know what they are going to be from one day to the next". The children buy gingerbread squares which have a gold paper star on each piece. In the middle of the night, when she *thinks* the children are sleeping, Mary Poppins creeps into their room and takes the paper stars from where the children have hidden them. Later, from their window, they see the old woman at the top of a tall ladder supported by her daughters, pasting their stars onto the sky. Perhaps Demme's next movie should be a remake of Mary Poppins - true to the book this time - with Robyn providing the music. ~N Adding to the death toll; Did anyone else notice the passing of Ferry Porche? When he was 85 years old he was asked which of all the cars he designed was his favorite model. His reply: "The next one!". He'll be missed. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:26:52 -0500 (CDT) From: sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #139 >>From: M R Godwin >>Subject: Ghosts (RH=0.02) >> >>Does anyone have any recommendations? I find that most of the more modern >>stories have too much 'Rosemary's Baby' and/or 'Psycho' influence to be >>really unsettling, but then I'm an old fogey. > >Have you read Robertson Davies? _High Spirits_ is the book of ghost >stories, I think. (And then there's _The Papers of Samuel Marchbanks_, for >fogeys' delight. Hmmm....I've read those, and I was really unhappy. Not that they were at all bad, mind you, it's a very good collection, but they're -comic- ghost stories, which wasn't what I was looking for. I mean to reply to Mike's post earlier, but somehow slacked on it (oh, so uncommon for me! :)). Since you're a fan of an older style, you've probably already discovered him but if you haven't I'd think Sheridan LeFanu would be right up your alley. A very unique voice from the Victorian subconscious, close to if not the equal of Poe in this not-so-humble reader's opinion. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:56:01 -0500 (CDT) From: sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain) Subject: Re: Semicoatedfragilebiscuit... >I didn't. I only knew the movie. Believe me, the books are *very* >different! > >I just started reading the first of the series to my daughter and I'm >very struck by how dark, surreal and Robyn-ish they are. Well, upon seeing the movie again a couple years ago I was struck that it was actually pretty dark and surreal for a Disney production as well, though certainly not nearly so much as the book. I think "Mr. Popper's Penguins", which is also wonderful, is by the same author. It was a childhood favorite of mine, along with "Half Magic" by Edward Eager (has anyone else here ever read that?), which is also a very surreal book, yet somehow extremely logical (as the best surrealism usually is :)). The children in it find a magic coin that gives them -half- of whatever they wish on it. The ways in which the coin determines what half is are very odd and often pretty amusing. There are a couple sequels to it as I recall but none were as good as the first one. I damn near wore that book out with rereading :). >Perhaps Demme's next movie should be a remake of Mary Poppins - true to >the book this time - with Robyn providing the music. Actually I envision Nicholas Roeg doing a better job with it. He made such a wonderful, true to the nasty Dahl spirit job of "The Witches". Incidentally, speaking of the death toll- I mentioned Wendy O'Williams' death to a couple of musical cognoscenti acquaintances yesterday and was met with blank looks. Odd. Even odder was when I observed that she was only two years younger than Cozy Powell, and how odd it was that they could be so close in age and yet so representative of completely different points on the rock aesthetic spectrum- and drew a blank again. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:55:22 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Trip Katherine wrote: >Meanwhile I seem to have this list at the back of my head when I search >through the cutout bins lately....and speaking of those, can anybody tell >me about a band called Trip Shakespeare? Sorry if this shows extreme >ignorance--you're probably accustomed to that from me by now, right?--but I >don't know any of this stuff, and I admit to being a sucker for cute album >titles when they're in the dollar bin. Trip Shakespeare evolved into Semisonic, who are doing quite well nowadays. Trip Shakespeare is a bit "prissier" than Semisonic somehow, and sounds a bit more acoustic/folky. Used to kinda like them, then kinda got over them. Out the door to see...Neutral Milk Hotel, Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:02:10 -0400 From: tanter Subject: Rik Mayall hurt Mayall 'serious' after bike crash By Sebastien Berger RIK Mayall, the actor and comedian, was in intensive care last night with serious head injuries after an accident on his farm. His wife, Barbara, was at his beside. Mayall, 40, was flown unconscious to hospital after falling off a quad bike - a four-wheeled off-road motorcycle - and being pinned under it after the machine rolled over him in a steeply sloping field on Thursday. His children Rosie, Sidney and Bonnie, were with him but were not on the bike and were not hurt. Mrs Mayall came out of the farmhouse, near East Allington, Devon, to find her husband unconscious under the machine. He was taken to Derriford Hospital in Plymouth by a police helicopter. Mayall, who has starred in or written several television series including The Young Ones, The New Statesman and Bottom, did not regain consciousness. A Westcountry Ambulance spokesman said: "Our paramedic flew in the helicopter with the patient. He was taken to the Moorgate ward at Derriford which is the specialist neurological ward for the area. He was in a serious condition this morning. He is in the best place and is receiving the best care possible." A hospital spokesman said last night that Mayall was "stable" but was unable to give further details. Mayall bought the farm last year as a retreat. His friend and comedy partner, Adrian Edmondson, also has a house near Dartmoor. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 08:08:58 -0400 From: tanter Subject: Big surprise (ha!) about George Michael (0% RH) Pop star George Michael says he is gay and 'stupid' Copyright © 1998 Nando.net Copyright © 1998 Reuters News Service LOS ANGELES (April 11, 1998 01:55 a.m. EDT http://www.nando.net) - Pop star George Michael said Friday he was not ashamed to admit he is gay, but that he was 'stupid' to have engaged in the actions that led to his arrest this week on lewd-conduct charges. "I want people to know I haven't been exposed as a gay man. I don't feel any shame. I feel stupid and reckless and weak for having allowed my sexuality to be exposed this way," Michael told CNN in his first public comments since his arrest in a public toilet in Los Angeles on Tuesday. The 34-year-old singer, who has long drawn a discreet veil over his private life, broke his silence because he said he wanted to let his fans know he is "OK." Michael's arrest made international headlines after Beverly Hills police announced Wednesday he had been apprehended by undercover officers after complaints from neighbors that lewd acts were being performed in public toilets. Without discussing the specifics of his arrest or the act he allegedly engaged in, Michael said it was not the first time he had been "reckless" in a similar way. "I put myself in an extremely stupid position, I won't deny that. I won't even say it was the first time it ever happened. I can only apologize," he said. Michael, whose real name is Georgios Kyriacos Panayiotou, said he had intentionally kept his sexuality ambiguous, in part for professional reasons, because a "borderline" performer can communicate with both men and women. "My sexuality was not cut and dry," he said, adding that he did not have a gay relationship until he was 27. He said by the time he stopped having relationships with women 10 years ago, he was so "indignant" about previous press coverage he kept his sexuality to himself. "I have no problem with people knowing I'm in a relationship with a man. I've not been in a relationship with a woman for nearly 10 years," he said. He said the songs he wrote in the first half of his career were about women, "but the songs I've written since have been fairly obviously about men." Formerly half of the pop duo Wham!, Michael has been a solo artist since 1987 and has won two Grammys. He is scheduled for arraignment in Beverly Hills Municipal Court on May 5.  ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:34:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Rik Mayall hurt On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, tanter wrote: > RIK Mayall, the actor and comedian, was in intensive care last night with > serious head injuries after an accident > Mayall bought the farm last year This just goes to show that dead people shouldn't engage in motorsports. Sorry, Rik. Couldn't resist. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #140 *******************************