From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #138 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, April 9 1998 Volume 07 : Number 138 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: the unidentified Volkswagen commercial song [Bayard ] Re: Dumb & Dumber? [Eb ] Re: Robyn covers ["JH3" ] Spawn of Schmilsson ["Cartman's Father" ] Re: Dumb & Dumber? [Terrence M Marks ] Re: Spawn of Schmilsson [Terrence M Marks ] Re: Spawn of Schmilsson ["Cartman's Father" ] Remembrance of Things Wrong (was: Dumb & Dumber?) ["JH3" ] Re: production ["Cartman's Father" ] Re: production [Bayard ] More Kristen Hersh [griffith ] Re: fwd: What's a Linctus? ["Cartman's Father" ] Re: More Kristen Hersh [Eb ] Re: more on kristen hersh ["Capitalism Blows" ] net-music-thinger [Bayard ] Re: net-music-thinger [Tom Clark ] Re: Robyn Covers...Dan Bern [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Re: net-music-thinger [Capuchin ] show taping ( off topic) [Michael Hooker ] Re: net-music-thinger [Tom Clark ] Re: net-music-thinger [Miles Goosens ] Re: production ["Capitalism Blows" ] Guitar covers [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] cddb players [woj spice ] Re: net-music-thinger [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Spawn of Schmilsson [Terrence M Marks ] Re: Strange Angels [Dave Librik ] Re: Robyn Covers...Dan Bern [M R Godwin ] Fwd: Re: net-music-thinger ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:58:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: the unidentified Volkswagen commercial song here's the current breakdown: "reverse engineered from UFO's" = Stereolab, "Parsec" "what color do you dream in?" = The Orb, "Little fluffy clouds" featuring Rickie Lee Jones Its engine is in the front, but its heart is still in the right place"= Spiritualized, "Ladies and Gentlemen, We are Floating in Space" Still unknown: "less flower, more power" (percussion and organ instrumental) "if you sold your soul in the 80s here's your chance to buy it back" (this is the one i was wondering about!) email me if you can help and thanks for your indulgence! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:09:15 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: the unidentified Volkswagen commercial song >here's the current breakdown: > >"reverse engineered from UFO's" = Stereolab, "Parsec" >"what color do you dream in?" = The Orb, "Little fluffy clouds" featuring > Rickie Lee Jones >Its engine is in the front, but its heart is still in the right place"= > Spiritualized, "Ladies and Gentlemen, We are Floating in Space" > >Still unknown: > >"less flower, more power" (percussion and organ instrumental) > >"if you sold your soul in the 80s here's your chance to buy it back" (this >is the one i was wondering about!) I can't match song to commercial, but I heard that Tortoise is another one of the featured Volkswagen bands. Admittedly, I've had limited exposure to Tortoise, so I can't say. Eb, who got called by my "She Doesn't Exist" girl yesterday, for the first time in three years! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:05:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Dumb & Dumber? > "Balloon Man" has been included on Rhino CD "Get Down, Get Dumb" (Various > Artists), a collection of songs "inspired by the Saturday morning Dumb > And Dumber animated series, based on the Jim Carrey blockbuster film!" Is that as in "the collection was inspired by the cartoon" or as in "we're trying to make it sound like we influenced some good music with some crappy cartoon based on a crappy movie that only succeeded because it had Jim Carrey in it"? > Oh well, at least now maybe our children will know who Robyn is. Ugh, > another generation of "Oh yeah, the Balloon Man guy!" Better that than a generation of "Oh yeah, the So You Think You're In Love Guy". All rock bands are remembered for the wrong things (as a DEVO, Moody Blues, Nilsson, Beach Boys, Madness and Monkees fan, I'm speaking from experience) Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:33:42 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Dumb & Dumber? >All rock bands are remembered for the wrong things (as a DEVO, >Moody Blues, Nilsson, Beach Boys, Madness and Monkees fan, I'm speaking >from experience) I suppose I can see your point about the other bands, but what should be the Moody Blues and Nilsson be remembered for? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:56:26 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Robyn covers Glen Uber asked: >How many of you cover/have covered Robyn Hitchcock songs in your sets? The band I was in many years ago used to do "Brenda's Iron Sledge" and "Young People Scream" all the time. The latter, especially, was in almost every multi-set show we did (if we were only playing one set we pretty much stuck with originals). We also did "Balloon Man" once, badly, and played around with "Love" and "Tell Me About Your Drugs" but never performed them. Why did we pick those tunes? Funny you should ask. Mostly because they were all fairly easy, and they were also crowd-pleasers, if we could have been said to have ever pleased a crowd. (The band's name was the "Senses Bureau," if anyone remembers us from the DC area during the 80's. I only barely remember us myself...) John H. Hedges-tation and Dimes ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:07:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Cartman's Father" Subject: Spawn of Schmilsson On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Terrence M Marks wrote: > All rock bands are remembered for the wrong things (as a DEVO, Moody > Blues, Nilsson, Beach Boys, Madness and Monkees fan, I'm speaking from > experience) > Which song is Nilsson remembered for? "Without You" or "Everybody's Talking" (neither of which he wrote)? Seems a shame that a great songwriter such as he will not be remembered for songs he wrote, although I suppose Three Dog Night fans remember "One" and _Reservoir Dogs_ fans will fondly recall "Coconut". Of course there was that car commercial in the 1970s that used "Me And My Arrow". On the same topic, has anyone heard the Nilsson tribute album that came out a few years ago? I saw it in the bargain bin the other day and nearly bought it, if only for Adrian Belew's cover of "...Arrow". If that song alone is worth $4.99, let me know and I'll pick it up if it's still there. - -g- - ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- Glen Uber uberg@sonic.net "Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible." --Frank Zappa - ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:27:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Dumb & Dumber? > >All rock bands are remembered for the wrong things (as a DEVO, > >Moody Blues, Nilsson, Beach Boys, Madness and Monkees fan, I'm speaking > >from experience) > > I suppose I can see your point about the other bands, but what should be > the Moody Blues and Nilsson be remembered for? Moody Blues were a bad example. The Kinks would have been a much better one. I've always thought that "Everybody's Talkin" was one of Nilsson's weaker early tracks, and that he wasn't that great a rock-and-roller (which is what he's mainly remembered for. I'd really hesitate to call "Coconut" or "Jump Into the Fire" his best work. And don't even get me started on Pusst Cats) Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:30:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Spawn of Schmilsson > On the same topic, has anyone heard the Nilsson tribute album that came > out a few years ago? I saw it in the bargain bin the other day and nearly > bought it, if only for Adrian Belew's cover of "...Arrow". If that song > alone is worth $4.99, let me know and I'll pick it up if it's still there. > Simply put, no, it isn't. Most of Nilsson's appeal rested on his singing ability. The songs, when sung by other people, vary between "weak" and "wrong". It's rather akin to having a bunch of punk bands cover Stevie Wonder songs or ska bands covering Yngwie Malsteem in that the performers just don't have what it takes to make the songs sound right. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:39:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Cartman's Father" Subject: Re: Spawn of Schmilsson On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Terrence M Marks wrote: > It's rather akin to having a bunch of punk bands cover Stevie Wonder > songs or ska bands covering Yngwie Malsteem in that the performers just > don't have what it takes to make the songs sound right. I'd probably buy both of these albums, just for the novelty of it all. ;-) You know, I've been on this list pretty much non-stop for four-plus years and I don't ever recall seeing Yngwie's name mentioned on here. I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later. Just don't let it happen again... ;-) BTW Terry, your point is well-taken. Thank you. - -g- n.p. Godley and Creme, _Freeze Frame_ - ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- Glen Uber uberg@sonic.net "Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible." --Frank Zappa - ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:17:25 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Remembrance of Things Wrong (was: Dumb & Dumber?) It's interesting that Robyn would end up on a "Dumb 'n' Dumber" soundtrack. For the movie they had Crash Test Dummies doing an inferior version (it would almost have to be!) of an XTC song, "Peter Pumpkinhead." Maybe the guy who picks these tunes is on this list? Or should be? >>>All rock bands are remembered for the wrong things... What, even the Rolling Stones? After all, they're mostly remembered for being a bunch of self-obsessed, drug-abusing twits... Terrence M. sez: >Moody Blues were a bad example. Probably, but "Knights in White Satin" isn't really representative of their work. >I've always thought that "Everybody's Talkin" was one of Nilsson's weaker >early tracks, and that he wasn't that great a rock-and-roller (which is >what he's mainly remembered for... I don't remember him as being much of a rock-and-roller at all, more like one of the original English eccentric popsters. (Though it's true that he wasn't that great at rockin' and rollin'.) And I couldn't let a mention of Harry Nilsson go by without mentioning "Joy" - one of the funniest things I've ever heard on any album, ever. (obRobyn: "Veins of the Queen" might be slightly funnier.) John H. "OMYGOD TWO POSTINGS IN ONE DAY" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 18:24:09 -0400 From: tanter Subject: Re: Dumb & Dumber? At 01:33 PM 4/8/98 -0700, you wrote: >I suppose I can see your point about the other bands, but what should be >the Moody Blues and Nilsson be remembered for? HEY!! Maybe Denny Laine is forgettable, but Justin Hayward is gorgeous and has a lovely voice. I'll never forget him (although, to be fair, their late stuff isn't all that great). Nor will PBS, it seems..... Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:17:42 -0700 From: "Cartman's Father" Subject: Re: production Russ Reynolds hat geschrieben: > Over all, though, I agree that Pespex was worse. It's not that the > production was *bad*, because a closer listen reveals some pretty > interesting detail, it's just that I don't think Paul Fox was quite > on the same page as Robyn's music. He still performs some of those > tunes live and they sound way better out of the context of that > album. It's just a very corporate sounding record (for RH anyway). I agree with Russ on this one. I hated the song "Lysander" until I heard Robyn perform it at the Backstage in Seattle in 1995. Only then did I realize what a wonderful song it was. He played it again at the Mill Valley gig last summer, and my opinion was the same: Great song, lousy production. The only other songs I've heard him play from PI are "Oceanside", "Child Of The Universe", "So You Think You're In Love" and "Birds In Perspex" (all of them at the 28 April 1993 show in SF and/or the following day's in-store show at Rough Trade records). I don't believe he's played SYTYIL at any show I've seen since. He might have done BIP at the Mill Valley show, but I can't remember. (Eddie?) - -g- n.p. O Positive, _Cloud Factory_ - ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- Glen E. Uber uberg@sonic.net "Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible." --Frank Zappa - ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:47:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: production he's played vegetation and dimes with the egyptians-- and an astounding version of SYTYIL with kimberley late last year at the 12 bar. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:44:27 -0700 (PDT) From: griffith Subject: More Kristen Hersh FYI Kristen Hersh will be performing on KCRW tomorrow (04/09) night. I believe she will be on the air at 11:00pm West Coast. She is a guest on the program "Brave New World" hosted by Tricia Halloran (the show runs from 10:00pm to midnight with the musical guest joining in at 11:00pm). For those of you with the technology, point your browsers to www.kcrw.org tomorrow night. KCRW broadcasts live over the internet 24 hours a day. They also have a web cam (it is linked to the icon that is labled something like "How Radio Looks Now"). I guess you can't get much more than that... griffith = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Griffith Davies hbrtv219@csun.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:36:47 -0700 From: "Cartman's Father" Subject: Re: fwd: What's a Linctus? M R Godwin hat geschrieben: > PS Don't touch the 'non-drowsy' version of Benylin - makes as much > sense as decaffeinated(sp?) coffee or low-alcohol beer... Jesus, Mike! You sound just like me! - -g- Now drinking: Lagunitas IPA (another reason I'm grateful to be living in Northern California.) - ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- Glen E. Uber uberg@sonic.net "Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible." --Frank Zappa - ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:07:57 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: More Kristen Hersh >They also have a web cam (it is linked to the icon that is labled >something like "How Radio Looks Now"). Gawwwd, I wish KCRW would drop that shriekingly pretentious ad campaign. Eb, gagging over the memory of the oh-so-coooool Jason Bentley "casually" posing in a subway train.... PS Off to see the Pastels tonight...first time EVER playing in LA! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 16:07:46 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: more on kristen hersh did i mention you can find the screenplay at: ? age: 42 (if you don't believe me, ask anyone on the connells list.) about 12, i guess. but i'm a slow reader. <2. The Canadian government has your best interests in mind when it makes a decision that affects you. How much do you agree this statement?> definitely. i feel like the canadian government has always supported my...ministrations. <3. Did you vote in the last election?> no. really. <4. Do you believe in Democracy?> no. i believe in santa rosa Uber alles. "The Dude abides"...I don't know about you, but i take comfort in that. It's good knowin' he's out there, "The Dude," takin' 'er easy for all us sinners. Shesh...I sure hope he makes the finals. --The Stranger ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:13:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: net-music-thinger where in the web can i download that application that looks up the cd you're playing on the net, and gives you info about it? =b np: lorenzo music philharmonic, _aunt canada_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 98 16:38:24 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: net-music-thinger >where in the web can i download that application that looks up the cd >you're playing on the net, and gives you info about it? "DISCO", by Peter Bierman: http://www.spies.com/~lunatic/disco/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:39:05 -0700 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: Robyn Covers...Dan Bern I've covered: Listening to the Higsons (also available on Glass Flesh!) One Long Pair of Eyes w/ Dave Brown (also available on Glass Flesh!) Raymond Chandler Evening I've played these a couple of times too, but I can't seem to keep them in my constant performance vocabulary: Arms of Love She Doesn't Exist Railway Shoes - -- Well, I got to the "D" section before Nick did, and managed to buy the last copy of _50 Eggs_, Dan Bern's newest CD. I've listened to it in its entirety a few times, and here's my early take on it. "Tiger Woods" is the greatest single of the year, though it probably can't get much airplay for its lofty visuals (it open's with "I've got big balls") and goes further out of the narrow commercial bandwidth from there. "One Dance" is a strong song, which was played during the credits of that wonderful movie "Zero Effect." The song about "aliens fucked monkeys" is pretty amusing. The rest of the songs haven't held up to the same level, but how can you be great all the time? I recommend the CD from the strength of its best cuts, but I think his two other efforts are more consistently great. Maybe they'll grow on me, but maybe not. Also, at the risk of disagreeing with Nick, I really like Ani D'franco's production hand on the disc. On the weaker songs I did wonder about some of the production choices, but "Tiger Woods" could not have been better produced by anybody. In reality, I wish she would go back and reproduce his first two CDs. Just my own migrainy opinion and it may change with more listens, or at least fistfulls of ibuprophen. Ciao, - -Markg I'm not a music critic, but I play one on TV ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:19:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: net-music-thinger Bayard begged: > >where in the web can i download that application that looks up the cd > >you're playing on the net, and gives you info about it? On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Tom Clark wrote: > "DISCO", by Peter Bierman: > http://www.spies.com/~lunatic/disco/ Disco is very cool and nifty. I remember when it was just a pet project. I have no idea how far their database has gone or how global. Apparently there's a network of music servers all over that list CD tracks based on disc.id information encoded on the CD... many of them work in conjunction with one another and share database info. I was using a program for a while called CDWizard on my Windows machine. Try www.windows95.com I'm sure they have it. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 20:26:54 From: Michael Hooker Subject: show taping ( off topic) hello, i am going to try my hand for the first time at tapeing a live show, lloyd cole at the mercury lounge in NYC. i have a decent portable recorder but no mike. can anybody recommend a good , inconspicuous, cheap ? mike? where is a good place to buy one? also, has anybody ever had a hassle taping at the mercury lounge? thanks, Mike Hooker ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 98 18:44:41 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: net-music-thinger capuchin penned: >On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Tom Clark wrote: >> "DISCO", by Peter Bierman: >> http://www.spies.com/~lunatic/disco/ > >Disco is very cool and nifty. > >I remember when it was just a pet project. I have no idea how far their >database has gone or how global. I think he's got over 14,000 cd's in the database. Most importantly, most of Robyn's stuff is listed. Peter works here with me at Apple. His next "pet" project is to have a similar distributed database of MP3's on the internet, which would be accessible through a special player app. Nifty indeed. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 20:51:06 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: net-music-thinger At 07:13 PM 4/8/98 -0400, Bayard wrote: > >where in the web can i download that application that looks up the cd >you're playing on the net, and gives you info about it? Go to http://www.cddb.com. There's a link that takes you to CDDB-compatible players. Of those programs, I've used both CDValet (very small memory requirements; a nice, compact program) and Discplay 4 (more robust collection database reporting). Both are good programs, and have cheap registration fees ($10 for the former, $15 for the latter). doug mayo-wells was the person who hipped me to CDDB, so he could probably speak more authoritatively. later, Miles ====================================================================== "If a million people say a stupid thing, it is still a stupid thing." -- Anatole France Miles Goosens outdoorminer@mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~outdoorminer/miles ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 19:20:51 PDT From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: production no. although if i remember correctly, he did it at the '91 kennel club show. i can't recomment the "runion" model highly enough. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:36:30 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Guitar covers >> how many albums prominently feature a quitar on the sleeve. there's >> got to be zillions of them, but i can only think of BLACK SNAKE, >> BROTHERS IN ARMS, and those boston guitar/spaceship covers. > >Blackouts by Ashra (1979) we went through a whole load of them on this list (I think) a squillion years back. Others off the top of my head (a strange place to keep cds) include Hindsight (The Church), Vehicle (The Clean), one of BeBop Deluxe's that IO can't remember the title of (Sunburst, perhaps?), The Hermit (John Renbourn), 801 Live (IIRC, a bass guitar), City to City (Gerry Rafferty), Rattle and Hum (U2), and Live in the Seventies (Eric Clapton). An eclectic mix. And that's not including the screeds of heavy metal albums that use axe shaped guitars etc etc etc Wendy O Williams is dead? When? How? Damn but there's a lot of it going around at the moment... James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 22:54:16 -0400 From: woj spice Subject: cddb players also sprach Miles Goosens: >Of those programs, I've used both CDValet (very small memory requirements; >a nice, compact program) and Discplay 4 (more robust collection database >reporting). for windows 95/nt, the freeware cdmax is also quite good. i've been a satisfied "customer" almost as long as i've been dissatisifed with windows 95 (it was the first thing i installed after overgrading to 95). (please, no mac advocacy from the fegapplemax -- i'm *this* close to migrating to either solaris x86 or linux.) woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:59:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: net-music-thinger On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Bayard wrote: > where in the web can i download that application that looks up the cd > you're playing on the net, and gives you info about it? as others have said, www.cddb.com has pointers to tons of software that use cddb. however, much to my frustration, there aren't any that work under BSDI Unix (my work environment), nor any for Mac which allow you to save a personal databse of all your own CDs. i guess it's back to typing them in manually for me; a shame, as i was looking forward to seeing how many of my discs stumped it. (in a randomly selected box of 15, the only one it missed was Toiling Midgets, _SON_.) a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:28:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Spawn of Schmilsson > On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Terrence M Marks wrote: > > > It's rather akin to having a bunch of punk bands cover Stevie Wonder > > songs or ska bands covering Yngwie Malsteem in that the performers just > > don't have what it takes to make the songs sound right. > > I'd probably buy both of these albums, just for the novelty of it all. ;-) Well, so would I if they were cheap. I'd buy anything, were it cheap enough. Nearly bought a copy of OS/2 today for a dime. (It was a large box and I didn't have room for it, because it was a two-mile bike ride back to campus.) I did pick up all sorts of other things and have come to the conclusion that music before rock was almost universally lame. (Picked up stuff by Synergy[used one of their records as a Frisbee], Renaissance, The Harmonicats, The 3 O'clock, The Icicle Works, and The Chipmunks. Library sales rock.) > You know, I've been on this list pretty much non-stop for four-plus years > and I don't ever recall seeing Yngwie's name mentioned on here. I guess it > was bound to happen sooner or later. Of course it didn't come up sooner. No-one actually *listens* to Malsteem. The only people that ever buy his albums are guitar-wankers who listen to every track as they mumble to themselves "I could play that". Malsteem's albums are generally relegated to "Guitar periphernelia", and not "music", which is why they're mentioned infrequently. (Of course, Malsteemism is my number three guitar peeve, after items that claim to have been used by Jimi Hendrix and those 14-year-olds who hang out in guitar stores and play Slayer solos[I hate them especially because I can't play Slayer solos and because when I get a nice guitar in my hands I forget all of the songs I've ever learned and if I'm lucky I can strum the block chords to "Love Song" while some prepubescent dude next to me plays...umm...whatever they play nowadays instead of Stairway.]) > Just don't let it happen again... ;-) Well, it's out of my system now. > BTW Terry, your point is well-taken. Thank you. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 04:22:24 -0500 From: Dave Librik Subject: Re: Strange Angels spine@iastate.edu (James Francis) writes: >I'll repeat (as if anyone was listening the first time) that Strange >Angels is a great album, nearly the equal of Hips and Makers. > >It just takes more time (like the best Muses stuff) to get into it. While this thread has definitely made me interested in getting into the Throwing Muses -- this girl I knew in Berkeley was a huge fan of them, but I guess I didn't listen carefully enough at the time -- it sounds more and more like they are not the answer to the original question, "what female musicians sound like Robyn Hitchcock?" It's my impression that Robyn is pretty much instantly accessible to anyone with a solid grounding in late-60s psychedelia. "Fegmania!" or "Black Snake Diamond Role" are obviously blood kin of "Piper At The Gates Of Dawn." What I've heard of the Muses sounds like nothing else in the world. - - David Librik ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:12:52 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Robyn Covers...Dan Bern On Wed, 8 Apr 1998 Mark_Gloster@3com.com wrote: > Listening to the Higsons (also available on Glass Flesh!) > One Long Pair of Eyes w/ Dave Brown (also available on Glass Flesh!) > Raymond Chandler Evening I've played 'Raymond Chandler Evening' with a band too, but Scud (on vocals) had trouble hitting the low notes at the end. More recently I've recorded versions of 'It sounds great when you're dead' and 'Elizabeth Jade'. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:12:51 -0400 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Fwd: Re: net-music-thinger >From: Aaron Mandel FOR FEGAPPLEMAX ONLY: >nor any for Mac which allow you to >save a personal database of all your own CDs. i guess it's back to typing >them in manually for me; a shame, as i was looking forward to seeing how >many of my discs stumped it. (in a randomly selected box of 15, the only >one it missed was Toiling Midgets, _SON_.) Well, here's my CDDB routine on my Mac G3. 1) Insert CD. 2) Use MacCDDB to tickle the CDDB database. If the CD is there, Mac updates my AppleCDPlayer prefs file, and the CD's info is forever there. (Well, that's database enough for me.) If the CD is not there, I use InCDius GH 1.1b9, which allows me to add the info for the CD to my prefs file *and* upload it to CDDB. Sure, I'd love an app that does them all at once, but I'm sure it's just a matter of time. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #138 *******************************