From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #127 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, March 31 1998 Volume 07 : Number 127 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Feg Hootenanny/Quailspiracy/MilkPoll [Bayard ] no Tom Paxton content [Eb ] Re: Eh [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Jeff Mangum [The Great Quail ] Re: Feg Hootenanny/Quailspiracy/MilkPoll [Gary Assassin ] Fwd: Addendum ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Ant People [Capuchin ] Re: Ant People (NO ROBYN CONTENT) [seven@cs.utwente.nl (Susan Even)] Re: Ant People (NO ROBYN CONTENT) [Capuchin ] texas benefit concert...? [Aaron Mandel ] hey feggies, i'm home!!! [John Barrington Jones ] Re: Production [Christopher Gross ] Re: burning questions/Mr. Gross [Christopher Gross ] Where's the party? [The Great Quail ] Guest vocals [The Great Quail ] Re: Guest vocals [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Guest vocals [Tom Clark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:26:15 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Feg Hootenanny/Quailspiracy/MilkPoll Eb ebbed: This reminds me...I've been real curious about how many people on this list actually own the new Neutral Milk Hotel album. If you have it, could you just send me a blank email with the subject line "I bought it"? I'd be curious to take a tally. __ While you're about it, why not have people tell you if they liked it or not? I've heard a couple thumbs-down-esque opinions, but people are keeping mum about those, presumably so as not to start a listwar. Nick winked: > To see what you may be letting yourself in for, prospective attendees > should should check out > http://home.earthlink.net/~njaz/quail-lj.html you know, while looking at this photo, i had a great thought. for the party, why don't we all wear exactly the same color pants? > In the unlikely event that someone in this photograph _in any way_ > resembles one of the pictures on http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/tenlist.htm > I would suggest you consider reverting to Plan A, above. Personally, I > have not dared look. I checked it out and was interested to note this entry: Godwin is believed to be armed with handguns and a .9 millimeter rifle. It is known that Godwin has traveled extensively through Mexico and Central America and may have been in Hawaii in 1992. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ REWARD - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The FBI is offering up to $50,000 for information leading to the apprehension of Godwin. _____ Just FYI. =b ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:31:26 +0800 From: Jon Fetter Subject: Re: Anti Podes, producers and plonking >FWIW there is also a small chain of islands off the south coast of New >Zealand called the Antipodes - it is almost exactly at the antpodes of >London, IIRC. These islands are uninhabited, and are famous for a rare >species of quail, first reported by Charles Darwin. > >:) Congratulations, James! By mentioning a quail biology fact, you're entitled to several great prizes from the good folks here at FEF (Far-Eastern Fegs--our motto: "Speak softly and elephants are contagious!"): - --a Carl Palmer cigarette butt that I found in the trunk of my car - --a piece of the True Cone - --a can of quail eggs - --a slightly used squid found backstage at a Skinny Puppy show, with the inscription "C.G. Inc." - --a free pass to Penn's Cave ("See it by boat!") - --an ABBA turd - --transportation to the Quail Fegathering and Quonset Hut by either: 1)Captain Nemo's Nautilus 2)Doctor Doolittle's giant snail (watch out for those nasty pelagic quailocanths!) 3)a shortcut through the center of the earth with Rick Wakeman as your personal guide or 4) a ride on the head of Talos the bronze man Your prizes will be air-dropped on that new island that rose out of the sea after this morning's earthquake. You can get the coordinates from CNN or your local mad artist. Better hurry and pick them up fast before the island sinks back into the sea or your prizes get mucus-covered by the 'inhabitants' there. Gotta get back to my new bat-winged sculpture, Jon np--Wu Bai and China Blue, "Lonely Tree, Lonely Bird" - ------------------------------------------------------------------- There might be a signature here. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:08:22 -0700 From: Eb Subject: no Tom Paxton content >Inside awaited the night's most highly anticipated guest, folk-rock legend >Tom Waits. Folk-rock? Um, pardon? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:21:08 +0100 From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: Eh >>>>> "lj" == lj lindhurst writes: lj> anyone care to tell me what antipodeans means? A group of people who don't like po' Dean? Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 02:20:05 -0600 From: sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain) Subject: Re: peter buck >to the world that is Robyn. I guess it comes down to what side of the fence you're >on...if you love an obscure artist and relish everything they've ever done, I can >imagine that you might be taken aback when they feel the desire to "commune" >with a mega-selling buddy. Count me as one of the latter. Though I think the Robyn/Peter Buck collaboration is a very natural one, really, musically speaking, so it doesn't bother me. What's annoying about it is not the collaboration itself but this sort of thing where people want to tag it on as an identifier, e.g., "oh yeah, I know who he is, that weird English guy that Peter Buck played with", as if the participation of someone more famous on someone's record makes it somehow more interesting or noteworthy (this usually also means the less-famous artist has also been effectively dismissed- it wasn't worth the time to even get the name right, since "REM guy" was the important part of the equation anyway). This isn't the fault of the collaborators per se. The variant forms of this phenomenon (real life quote: "oh, yeah, I've heard of Adam Ant, he wrote some cool songs for Trent Reznor" :)) are also irritating but obviously not the fault of the artist(s) in question either. So I guess what I'm really taken aback with is the people who make these kinds of remarks :). One celebrity collaboration -is- an annoyance in and of itself though, and that's the "famous voice doing backup" phenomenon. Distinctive-voiced lead singers doing backup are downright distracting and often seem mainly to want to draw attention to themselves ("look at me, I'm so cool collaborating with this person"). Of course there are a number of instances where this has been done gracefully (witness Emmylou Harris on "Desire") but for the most part it serves as more of a distraction than an enhancement, at least for me. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:38:16 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: peter buck >The variant forms of this phenomenon (real life quote: "oh, yeah, I've >heard of Adam Ant, he wrote some cool songs for Trent Reznor" :)) are also >irritating but obviously not the fault of the artist(s) in question either. Oh yeah, I keep forgetting that you take Adam Ant seriously. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 98 06:32:04 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Jeff Mangum LJ writes, >Who is Jeff Mangum? Hmmm . . . remember a few weeks ago, when you met me down in DC? We went to catch this group, see . . .you may have heard of them. They're called "Neutral Milk Hotel?" So anyway, there's this guy, see, who writes all the songs and sings them, and plays the guitar, and jumps up and and down on stage a lot. His songs are kind of neat, and he has all these other guys around him that play like horns and other stuff, and they sing weird songs like "April 8th" and other such things that make certain people want to have his love child. Um, that guy is Jeff Mangum . . . . - --Quail, who thinks LJ should look up "Liner Notes" in her new dictionary. . . . >lj, cleaning her dentures in anticipation of spin-the-bottle-- hell, I >might even glue in the missing ones too PS: Ah, forget the missing ones. It adds a certain Shane McGowanesque charm, don't you think? "...i'm so ha-appy, i'm so ha-appy..." - ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail, K.S.C. | Literature Site - The Libyrinth: TheQuail@cthulhu.microserve.com | www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth www.rpg.net/quail | Vampire Site - New York by Night: riverrun Discordian Society | www.rpg.net/quail/NYBN 73 De Chirico Street | Arkham, Orbis Tertius 2112-42 | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:25:19 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Assassin Subject: Re: Feg Hootenanny/Quailspiracy/MilkPoll I'm going againt all your suggestions, but chiming in anyway. I got it. I like it, but I'm noit going to say so on the subject line. ------------------------------------ If you have a condom and sunscreen SPF 15 or greater, than it's safe to look at http://www.panix.com/~gsa/index.html On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Bayard wrote: > > Eb ebbed: > > This reminds me...I've been real curious about how many people on this list > actually own the new Neutral Milk Hotel album. If you have it, could you > just send me a blank email with the subject line "I bought it"? I'd be > curious to take a tally. > __ > While you're about it, why not have people tell you if they liked it or > not? I've heard a couple thumbs-down-esque opinions, but people are > keeping mum about those, presumably so as not to start a listwar. > > Nick winked: > > > To see what you may be letting yourself in for, prospective attendees > > should should check out > > http://home.earthlink.net/~njaz/quail-lj.html > > you know, while looking at this photo, i had a great thought. for the > party, why don't we all wear exactly the same color pants? > > > In the unlikely event that someone in this photograph _in any way_ > > resembles one of the pictures on http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/tenlist.htm > > I would suggest you consider reverting to Plan A, above. Personally, I > > have not dared look. > > I checked it out and was interested to note this entry: > > Godwin is believed to be armed with handguns and a .9 millimeter rifle. It > is known that Godwin has traveled extensively through Mexico and Central > America and may have been in Hawaii in 1992. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > REWARD > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > The FBI is offering up to $50,000 for information leading to the > apprehension of Godwin. > _____ > Just FYI. > > =b > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:53:09 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Fwd: Addendum Quail asked: >PS: Who's gonna invite Jeff Mangum? Ya know, I've got a coupla quasi-friends who released a Neutral Milk Hotel single, and I might could get a hold of them, and get in contact with Jeff, and maybe NMH will be in the area at the time, and... Guess that'd be cooler than just showing up with a bunch of radishes and a polka-dotted shirt, eh? +++++++++++++++++ "Never hear the Beastie Boys again...!" + Gene Hopstetter, Jr. + -- Steve Albini, Rapeman +++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:55:51 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Ant People On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, James Dignan wrote: > there is a theory, that I tend to agree with, that 90% of the people on the > planet are really just cardboard cutouts. Very cleverly constructed, mind, > you could never tell without a very close inspection. These are the people > no-one knows. All of the actual activity on the planet, the meeting people, > gleaning information, etc, is done by the 500 million "real people" on the > planet. Once you remove those who you can't understand because they speak > only Mandarin, Hindi or Serbo-Croat and other - well, foreign - languages, > you're left with a mere 90 million people. Worldwide, 2% of people have > email access. That leaves 1,800,000 people. Some of these are of, shall we > kindly say limited capabilities mentally. Some may be insane. Others may be > Celine Dion flans. Whatever. Removing them from the calculation leaves a > mere one and a half million. Is it any wonder we keep bumping into each > other? Ever read The Origin Of Consciousness In The Breakdown Of The Bicameral Mind by Julian Jaynes? It's one of my favorite theories. Jaynes says that human consciousness didn't become anything like widespread until around 3000 years ago. He has some really convincing evidence back there to support himself. I would assume someone like James has read this and has a strong opinion about it. I dig it anyway. Anyway, I'm thinking maybe it's possible that only 10% of the people alive today are conscious... the rest are something very much like soldier ants that live in the present and by certain ordained instructions, but either don't tap or just don't have the ability to think in the complex ways that bring on consciousness. I saw an EXCELLENT film by Errol Morris (A Brief History Of Time, etc.) called Fast, Cheap, And Out Of Control in which interviews with four men (a robot scientist, a wild animal trainer from a circus, a topiary gardener, and an expert on naked mole-rats) are intercut with the men at work and the objects of their obsessions. It's hard to watch this movie and not think that Morris was trying to say something about human consciousness and how some people are just drones carrying out extremely complex instructions without understanding or contemplating their lives. The MIT AI Lab fellow talks about building robots that behave almost like living things with surprisingly few instructions that will perform tasks without being explicitly directed in how to do so. The mole-rat specialist talks about how these mammals are very much like termites in their social structure and how it was thought until very recently that that sort of behavior was impossible in mammals. This same fellow also conjectures that these mole rats might be able to make a great big change in the KIND of role they fill when called upon by extraordinary circumstance. One can't help but extend this idea to complex thought and the idea that some humans are conscious and some are not based on the roles they are required to fill in society and their individual upbringing. The topiary gardener and the animal trainer make no abstractions whatsoever. They both speak only of their jobs and speak again and again of their individual excellence and irreplacability. The circus animal trainer does have a few things to say about the nature of the animals he trains, but he always says how much they are like humans and obey the same rules... no mention of consciousness, just stimulus/response. It's all very cool and beautifully filmed and editted. I still haven't found out who did the perfect music. That's about that. Just wanted to share and bring up another controversial and completely off-topic topic. Consciously, J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:12:42 +0200 (MET DST) From: seven@cs.utwente.nl (Susan Even) Subject: Re: Ant People (NO ROBYN CONTENT) > abstractions whatsoever. They both speak only of their jobs and speak > again and again of their individual excellence and irreplacability. The > circus animal trainer does have a few things to say about the nature of > the animals he trains, but he always says how much they are like humans > and obey the same rules... no mention of consciousness, just > stimulus/response. It's all very cool and beautifully filmed and editted. > I still haven't found out who did the perfect music. that's the whole point, isn't it? the interviews are edited, of course, to make them convey the point to be made. . . you can make anybody look stupid with proper editing. :) the mind inside the black box the frosted glass window to the soul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:28:35 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Ant People (NO ROBYN CONTENT) On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Susan Even wrote: > that's the whole point, isn't it? the interviews are edited, of course, > to make them convey the point to be made. . . Well, that's the whole point. It's well put together and really open to interpretation. It's certainly not objective. He's not a reporter, he's a filmmaker. Editorializing is part of while art. He tells stories with his pictures and others' words. There's this great scene where the mole-rat expert is talking about how they communicate with one another... grunts and squeaks... bunches of them jammed together and making what sounds like meaningless noise. The shots are of the mole-rats and then cut to slow motion shots of the people at the circus watching from the stands... staring blankly. It's all really cool. > you can make anybody look stupid with proper editing. :) Now now... nobody looked stupid in this. I don't think there's any reason to believe that unconscious people are any less intelligent than the conscious ones. They just have different priorities and a different worldview. The topiary gardener, for example, had all kinds of specific knowledge about his plants and seemed relatively articulate when he spoke of his work and his memories. It showed him working and he did a fine job of carefully selecting and pruning... he doesn't have an idiot's job. I've also discussed the film with two friends who'd seen the film. One said he agreed with me but was tainted because I'd told him my theory before he saw the flick. Another friend hadn't heard what I thought when I saw it and said he thought the film was about behavior, but couldn't quite narrow it down. Anyway, it's a great movie... especially if you prefer people to shoot-em-ups. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:37:03 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: texas benefit concert...? didn't Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan die a while back? is this someone with the same name except one bit added, doing the same kind of performance? a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:56:35 -0800 From: John Barrington Jones Subject: hey feggies, i'm home!!! Spent a week in Honolulu. Did y'all miss me? I took Ross Overbury's advice and this year I stayed away from the internet on my vacation. (Last year I posted a few things to the list whilst at the Internet Cafe which is not too far from Waikiki Beach) I still haven't gone through my awaiting email yet, but i'll have moldy old comments when i do. This week we are moving into our first home, so it will be awhile before i'm really back on this list again. I found an import of The Stranglers' "Black And White" during my stay on the island, and snatched it right up. Its just as I remembered--I love Side A, and wonder what the hell Side B is about. Does anyone love The Stranglers on here? Sending unlabelled tapes as a representation of myself (for the party), John (Miss Lobsterman if you're nasty) PS. new Dan Bern out today! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:05:06 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Production On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, KarmaFuzzz wrote [re: the Joy Division box set]: > it's sounds very very good, except for the recordings of "ceremony" and "in a > lonely place" which were mastered from a badly beat up cassette, so it's > probably as good as it could be all things considered. and the live/radio > session and alternate versions discs are more than just "interesting" for the > most part. well worth getting if you can find it for less than $75 (it's only > import). when i bought mine, it was $55, but i haven't seen it for less than > $70 since..... Sounds like something I'd like; it also sounds like it's beyond my budget at the moment.... In addition to the live and alternate versions of the songs from their albums, are there any previously unreleased songs (or songs that are so rare as to be almost unattainable outside of the box set)? I believe Jason Thornton was wondering about this too, but I don't remember if he e-mailed me privately or posted it to the list. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:15:13 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: burning questions/Mr. Gross On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, lj lindhurst wrote: > our newest bestest friend and Big Toe Chris wrote: > > I love Robyn's music, I > >have a cone, I can understand the attraction of fish, and I've read enough > >of the archives to get a feel for what's going on here > > I've also heard that you have a baby growing out of the side of your head. > Is there any truth to this? No, no, nothing of the sort. What happened was that a baby burst completely *out* of my head, shattering my skull and scattering the pathetic remnants of my brain all over the room. I have witnesses -- a local Internet campaign designer saw the whole thing. > do you know anything about outboard motors? do you like Oasis? Can I have > a dollar? Not much, not much, and yes, but you have to come pick it up. (Actually, I have to admit that, perhaps alone among Fegs, I don't know much of Oasis's music. No doubt I'll give them a serious listen someday, but I think I'll wait until they've broken up, been forgotten, gone through a revival, guest-starred in a hip, ironic young group's breakthrough video, reunited, and done a disappointing reunion tour.) - --Chris PS: Hey, if Jeff Mangum can't make it, invite Mac! ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:52:14 -0500 From: Stephen Buckalew Subject: Dan Bern (Some RH content)/Production Quibbles Just want to mention I saw Dan Bern on the Penn State campus in Central PA on Friday...heard alot of talk about him on the list...I'm really glad I went to the show...great live performer...drop dead hilarious at points. Very surreal sense of humor. I think RH fans would like his live show...very similar to Robyn in that I imagine he has a far greater "presence" live as opposed to his recordings. As far as Robyn's production on albums...I can't pick a favorite because the abundance or absence of production on his various albums contributes so much to their different flavors, and depending on my own personal "space" at the time determines what production flavors I want. I do think his more produced albums tend to be more "pop" and upbeat, while the albums with more spare production are more laid-back and moody. N.P. Spiritualized "Lazer Guided Melodies" ***************************************************************************** "...everythings all on...it's rosy...it's a beautiful day!"--Syd Barrett ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:00:45 -0800 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: Addendum "addendum" "quail" hmmm. The whole notion of the word "addendum" to our behmuhed one is repetitively redundant. I shall have to report him to the department of redundancy department department. - -Markg, who welcomes our new members who may sound frighteningly like ourselves- that whole brain thing has happened to me I'm sure, but I can't remember BTW, the analysis of the sheer volume of his previous output renders any "addendums" statistically nonexistent, or redundantly nonexistent. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:16:47 -0800 From: Mike Runion Subject: Re: Ant People Capuchin wrote: > Anyway, I'm thinking maybe it's possible that only 10% of the people alive > today are conscious... the rest are something very much like soldier ants > that live in the present and by certain ordained instructions, but either > don't tap or just don't have the ability to think in the complex ways that > bring on consciousness. > and how some people are just drones carrying out extremely > complex instructions without understanding or contemplating their lives. I used to think I was conscious, but after years of careful study and deep personal exploration, I've learned that I'm just a drone. Damn. :) - -- Mike Runion Cocoa, FL, USA /******************************************************************\ | VCM: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/cones.htm | | Fegmaps: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/fegmaps | | Spoken Word Tape: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/wordtape.htm | \******************************************************************/ "Wait a minute. Time for a Planetary Sit-In!" - Julian Cope ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 98 15:14:24 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Where's the party? > So, where the hell is this thing gonna be? Harrisburg, PA which is about two hours from DC as the Rick Wakeman plonks. More details to come when I post the Web site! - --Quail - ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail, K.S.C. | Literature Site - The Libyrinth: TheQuail@cthulhu.microserve.com | www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth www.rpg.net/quail | Vampire Site - New York by Night: riverrun Discordian Society | www.rpg.net/quail/NYBN 73 De Chirico Street | Arkham, Orbis Tertius 2112-42 | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 98 15:14:21 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Guest vocals Susan writes, >One celebrity collaboration -is- an annoyance in and of itself though, and >that's the "famous voice doing backup" phenomenon. Distinctive-voiced lead >singers doing backup are downright distracting and often seem mainly to want >to draw attention to themselves ("look at me, I'm so cool collaborating with >this person"). Of course there are a number of instances where this has been >done gracefully Spaeking as we were about Peter Buck, I am curious as to whether you think Micahel Stipe's guest "la la las" on "She Doesn't Exist" fall into that category? Personally, I am most fond of them, and I think his unique voice adds a wonderful contribution to an already heartbreaking song -- especially given the *weight* it has, all the wistful grace it has acquired from many years of haunting the sparse landscapes of so many beautiful REM songs. . . . it just seems to shed a sepia mist, swirling slowly through the end of the song. I love it! - --Quail, who would by a Spice Girls CD if it had one Michael Stipe "la la la" in it - ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail, K.S.C. | Literature Site - The Libyrinth: TheQuail@cthulhu.microserve.com | www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth www.rpg.net/quail | Vampire Site - New York by Night: riverrun Discordian Society | www.rpg.net/quail/NYBN 73 De Chirico Street | Arkham, Orbis Tertius 2112-42 | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:32:08 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Guest vocals On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, The Great Quail wrote: > --Quail, who would by a Spice Girls CD if it had one Michael Stipe "la la > la" in it have you got the Blue Aeroplanes' "Swagger" yet? stipe does a guest turn on, i think, "what it is". a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 98 12:35:04 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Guest vocals On 3/31/98 12:14 PM, The Great Quail gushed: >Spaeking as we were about Peter Buck, I am curious as to whether you >think Micahel Stipe's guest "la la las" on "She Doesn't Exist" fall into >that category? Personally, I am most fond of them, and I think his unique >voice adds a wonderful contribution to an already heartbreaking song -- >especially given the *weight* it has, all the wistful grace it has >acquired from many years of haunting the sparse landscapes of so many >beautiful REM songs. . . . it just seems to shed a sepia mist, swirling >slowly through the end of the song. I love it! While I don't mind the "la la las" on "She Doesn't Exist", I really can't stand his contribution to "Dark Green Energy." It brings to mind everything Susan wrote about regarding the <"look at me, I'm so cool collaborating with this person"> aspect of guest backups. Ugh, I think Morris would have been a better choice - but then again, I think Morris is a better choice for most anything. Holy Sh*t, I posted something about Robyn! - -tc ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #127 *******************************