From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #120 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, March 27 1998 Volume 07 : Number 120 Today's Subjects: ----------------- more threads, and still too long. Some RH & Southland content [james.dign] rumor & sigh/polara/the bees [woj spice ] fem robyn? [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] RT again! [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] Re: The female Robyn Hitchcock? ["Baker, David(KWI-C09)" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #119 [Ed.Doxtator@ssa.co.uk] Re: Did somebody mention RT?!! :_) [dlang ] Re: Carl Palmer Is In The Trunk of My Car [dlang ] Re: rumor & sigh/polara/the bees [dlang ] Re: robyn as narrator- quailspiracy content! [dlang ] re: PI review [Jim Moore ] Re: Will the *real* Robyn followers please stand up? [Bayard ] jabbering thanks (0% Carl Palmer content) [Nick Winkworth ] Re: Jabbering thanks (0% Carl Palmer content) [Ross Overbury ] fwd: What's a Linctus? [Russ Reynolds ] put away your hairshirt [Carole Reichstein ] RE: fwd: What's a Linctus? [firstcat@lsli.com] Re: rumor & sigh/polara/the bees [nicastr@idt.net (Ben)] Re: What's a Linctus? [Terrence M Marks ] Re: fwd: What's a Linctus? [Rich Plumb ] Re: Mitchell Froom [MARKEEFE ] Re: Mitchell Froom [Aaron Mandel ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:27:28 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: more threads, and still too long. Some RH & Southland content >Katherine wrote: >>Oh, stop that. I said *the* Southland--Californiaspeak for the LA metroplex. > >It has long been my contention that the phrase "Southland" is purely a >convenient invention of local TV news programs. I have NEVER heard the word >"Southland" used in conversation. I guess the above is a first, then! >Either that, or Katherine works in TV.... I guessed that Catherine meant somewhere in the US. However, in their infinite originality, the early settlers of New Zealand declared that the southernmost province would be called Southland, and Southland it has remained to this day. For those interested in such trivia: area 7000 sq miles, popn 110 000, chief city Invercargill (55 000), other main towns Gore, Te Anau, Tuatapere, Riverton, Mataura, Bluff, Clinton, and Lumsden. Its main claims to fame are the spectacular wilderness region of Fiordland (NZ's only world heritage site), rolling sheep-covered hills, illicit alcohol (prohibition era, 'Hokonui whisky' is legendary), and the world's finest oysters. FWIW. The US 'Southland' is mentioned in a song by the Indigo Girls, but they are referring to Texas. And the artist formerly known as Reg Dwight sings about "the Southland" in his song "Georgia". I've never heard it previously used to describe part of California. Confused? You will be... >How do the rest of you describe Robyn to others? I say "listen to this!" and slap on a CD ;). Or surreptitiously add a couple of tracks on the end of tapes I send people. Far better to experience than describe, I say. >THe guy who owns the hardware store was DRUNK (at 2pm), and this is what he >said to me: "I'm going to No Man's Land. All you need is a horse, a gun, >and a falcon. You've got to have the falcon." bird or car? >Have you noticed how often RH takes a first person perspective in his >songs? by my count he's done about 24 songs beginning with "I" or "I'm" >(some covers included.) But only some of these could be considered to >include Robyn as a character in the song. Off the top of my head, these >include Clean Steve, You and Oblivion, and Linctus House. Driving aloud is another one. Other >autobiographical songs where RH does not actually refer to himself: yip >song, the face of death, etc. Can you think of more? Hmmm. Yip song does refer back "and I was sorry", in much the same way that Cynthia Mask does. I'd add Airscape to the list, which sounds very much autobiographical in the "this is what I did on my holidays" sense to me. >So here's my question: Who would *you* list in that category? I think we >can include artists or bands who have a similar sound or style, as well >as those directly influenced. hate to mention NZ music again, in case I annoy the "so what" contingent, but Don McGlashan's Muttonbirds would have to be in there. I'd also be tempted, vaguely, to add Ron Sexsmith. Sharkman a dit: >I think that Mark Gloster and Big Rubber Shark is influenced by Robyn, yet >seldom seems to show at the surface. only the fin is visible. Actually, I'd tend to agree with this blatant self-promotion ;) re can not, cannot, can't. In the context of that review (looking through a perspex darkly), I would have expected cannot. Can not calls out for a direct object after it, and changes the whole stress of the sentence. >> crate of various car things (oil, tranny fluid, jumper cables, gas can, > >i misread that as "tyranny fluid" which if i dive into the quail mythos >again could figure prominently and I spent ages trying to work out what type of fluid his radio would need before I clicked as to what he meant. >...and i haven't been a good boy and caught up the other hundred umpty >messages yet, but i can't >believe< barbara manning hasn't yet popped up >in the "female hitchcock" running. go buy all of her records now, all of >you! i'll be here when you get back. she's a big fan of NZ music too, you know ;) James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:39:31 -0500 From: woj spice Subject: rumor & sigh/polara/the bees wow, i seem to have taped into a wellspring of differences regarding richard thompson's _rumor & sigh_. rich plumb hit it on the head: there are enough duds on it to take the shine off the really good tunes. i don't particularly like "read about love" or "i feel so good". i suppose i could program them out, but it's not worth the effort -- they're not that bad...which sums up the record for me: it's not bad, but there are a few tunes which keep it from being really good. and "psycho street" is cool. regarding polara...i came across a used copy of their first record about a month ago. the first couple listens didn't gel much. it's playing now and they sound like versus to me, though with a twist i can't quite put my finger on. this is a good thing though -- thanks for the recommendation. _c'est la vie_ is the one to get, i gather? Eb: >Boston-based, eh? Maybe you were confusing Close Lobsters with the >Cavedogs? no. i have this compilation somewhere (vinyl, so i haven't dug it out in a while) which is mostly boston bands...and the close lobsters. i assumed guilt by association way back when and never checked up on the details. feg promotion: prompted by john hedges vote of confidence for the bees' _lemonade stand still life_, i ordered a copy which appeared in the mailbox today. yum! light, airy pop confections not unlike the gigolo aunts before they discovered the distortion pedal. way cool! note: i'm going to be out of town this weekend (simple machines fest -- alas, june of '44 and the grifters are not playing *sniff*). don't break the list while i'm gone. woj n.p. cindy lee berryhill -- garage orchestra ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:22:55 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: fem robyn? On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:27:21 -0500 (EST), you wrote: > >Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:25:44 -0500 >From: tanter >Subject: Re: The female Robyn Hitchcock? > >LAURIE ANDERSON!!!!!!!!!! > >Marcy ;) Well, she is WIERD enough, and DEFINATELY a performanc e artist.. (of course, she also had adrian belew AND william S. boroughs on the same sdtage, so she HAS to be cool! )\ luther ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:21:21 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: RT again! On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:27:21 -0500 (EST), you wrote: > >3) Rumor & Sigh -- yes, I do "dolph" during "1952 VBL" like others do >(and though I like Mary Lou Lord, I do NOT want to hear her cover it, as >she did on a recent EP). Considering RT's other recent output, I will >be very surprised if he ever surpasses this album with his future >output. I do miss Dave Mattacks on drums, though. Mickey Curry and Jim >Keltner can't hope to manage Richard's delicacy the way Dave does -- >after all, they sort of invented that particular brand of delicacy in >rock, back in Fairport. Well, you can always get "2 letter words", the Richard Thompson Band 1994 live CD put out by his fan club...contact me for details... Still, this is one of those rare Froom/Blake >productions that I actually love (along with RT's Amnesia and American >Music Club's Mercury). MERCURY. Now THERE is a great record...AMC should have been BIG, but they got wipped out...they were a little too subtle, i suppose. For those people who don't know, A lot of people on the RT list wanted to kill/maim/strand in istanbul Mitchell Froom for 'butchering' RT's latest records...I kinda like his produxction, myself, and would like to see him work with robyn. -luther ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:30:00 +0800 From: "Baker, David(KWI-C09)" Subject: Re: The female Robyn Hitchcock? One artist that needs to be mentioned here is Siouxie and the Banshees. They are one of the very few female led bands I know who have released genuinely psychedelic songs, rather than merely being slightly eccentric. Songs like 'Happy House' and 'Christine' are wonderfully disturbing and surreal songs in the tradition of Robyn at late 70's/ early 80's peak (IMHO). S and the B's had some Goth tendencies as opposed to Robyn's pop/folk base so calling Siouxie the female Robyn is probably going a bit far..... Alcoa of Australia Ltd ACN 004 879 298 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:12:29 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: RT again! > For those people who don't know, A lot of people on the RT >list wanted to kill/maim/strand in istanbul Mitchell Froom for >'butchering' RT's latest records...I kinda like his produxction, >myself, and would like to see him work with robyn. I thought Froom did very well with you?me?us?, and mostly good with Rumor & Sigh, but really uglied up Mirror Blue with his usual obsessive percussion tricks. Blah. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:41:56 +0000 From: Ed.Doxtator@ssa.co.uk Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #119 Eb wrote: >It has long been my contention that the phrase "Southland" is purely a >convenient invention of local TV news programs. I have NEVER heard the word >"Southland" used in conversation. There's a similar made-up-word in Chicago that applies to Chicago and the suburbs, "Chicagoland". Genius, that. Who makes these things up? How do I get this sort of job? 12-Strings... Has Robyn ever played a 12-string in a live show? Has he recorded any tunes playing a 12-string? For my money, Marty Wilson-Piper of The Church is a fabulous 12-string player. So is Peter Koppes, also of The Church. And then, let's not fergit Roger McGuinn... That Narsty "c-word"... I've lived in the UK for about two years now, and I've heard the "c-word" used differently, depending on context. Sorta like the word "fuck"... or the word "toast", for that matter. Anyway, I've heard it in reference to anatomy, a person who's easily duped, a person who's stupid, a person who's mean, a person who's mean and stupid, a person who's worthless... so on and so forth. Finally, Katherine has as a footer in her e-mail: >Ye knowe ek, that in forme of speche is chaunge >Withinne a thousand yere, and wordes tho >That hadden pris, now wonder nyce and straunge >Us thinketh hem, and yet they spake hem so. - Chaucer Katherine, who _IS_ this illiterate Chaucer? He can't spell to save his life. Is this the sort of thing we need to parade on this list? Look after yerselves... - -Ed, Doc, can I go home now? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:14:20 +2910 From: dlang Subject: Re: Did somebody mention RT?!! :_) Oh ballocks, i get about 100 messages a day from the Rt list, most of which i delete unread and now the Feglist is chocko with them too. Quail, this is getting beyond a joke, have mercy, pleasssssseeeeee! Someone dooooooo something about this guy!! Dave ps: Rt is best live. Do some trading you guys and get a few more live shows, they mostly knock the pants off his albums .The rumour and sigh songs are almost all better in the live context although it has some great songs and even Rt's weak songs piss all over most other known artists( with the exception of Monsieur Hitchcock of course) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:45:39 +2910 From: dlang Subject: Re: Carl Palmer Is In The Trunk of My Car Marcy opined:"So I called Elvis and he came over with a few really huge bodyguards and the next time MJ came around, they chased after him and he never came back. Thinking about it later, that should have been my first reaction. I know you mean well m'dear,but think of the cost of getting Elvis and his bozo's over to Australia, plus theres the fact that Elvis is an astral projection, but presumably the bodyguards are not.Mortals cannot tackle this sort of problem, we need bone fide spirits.No thats not a good suggestion, try to be sensible about this, I need an Australian solution, a deceased punk rocker who would hate Palmers music, as a prog rocker would just chat to him about old times or their latest triple album.Perhaps Micheal Hutchence, although he was a bit of a pomp rocker himself at times......I know !, Tracey Pew, erstwhile of the Birthday Party . They looked pretty mean bastards, certainly mean enough to scare the shit out of Palmer . Now ,anyone know a good medium I can use to contact Pew on the other side? dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:06:09 +2910 From: dlang Subject: Re: rumor & sigh/polara/the bees Subject: Re: rumor & sigh/polara/the bees Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:04:00 +2910 From: dlang Organization: sharktrades To: woj spice References: 1 Woj blasphemed: i don't particularly like "read about love" or "i feel so good". i suppose i could program them out, but it's not worth the effort -- they're not that bad...which sums up the record for me: it's not bad, but there are a few tunes which keep it from being really good. and "psycho street" is cool. ... Yikes, "I feel so good " and read about love "are *highlights* of any Rt show, someone get this man a copy of these songs from in concert quickly, ot I'll do it myself we MUST convert him to the true path asap.On the other hand, he has *some* taste ,Psycho street is wonderful , too bad Rt doesn't seem to play it anymore..... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:16:47 +2910 From: dlang Subject: Re: robyn as narrator- quailspiracy content! the non prophet wurdled; Boy! There seems to be higher-than-normal Robyn content on the list since I started posting again. Hmmm...another Quailspiracy perhaps? ;-) Of course, *everything is a Quailspiracy, *don't you know anything? there is nothing in the known Fegiverse that is not tainted by the evil grasp of his feathery appendages and thats why you need to join *Friends of Feg *my friend, because only FOF heads have the power to remain unscathed from the malign plotting of the Quail and his minions. Join now, for only $55 95 - plus $300 P&P -(well I am in Australia and fegjocks are heavy ) to receive not only your eyecatching FOF uniform but also your FREE copy of "The really heavy and meaningful thoughts of the anti Quail " which contains the secret formula that will enable YOU to take control of YOUR life and defeat the Quail and his fledglings , kick dirt in the faces of muscle men on beaches and also make you *irresistable *to LJ, Susan , Nat and all other known Fegfems when you meet them at Quailpartys ( or anywhere else for that matter). DO NOT DELAY , take advantage of this limited offer and kick the Quail where it hurts NOW. Chairman Feg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:43:00 -0600 From: Jim Moore Subject: re: PI review mighty =b quoth: >Is this person full of it? Please let me know. I invite any rock >journalists who may or may not be among us to respond, as I know little >about this field. =b, sponge journalist I'm not a rock journalist, but sometimes I like to pile rocks on top of my journals, so I guess I am qualified to speak. I thought that review was utterly, utterly stoopid and devoid of any shred of value except for the fact that he mentioned Jonathan Richmond, which happens to be two of my favorite names. I'm insane now, Chuck. Ultra-Unbelievable Guambat (a.k.a. Black Snake Diamond Rock Journalist) (a.k.a. World B. Free, retired hoopster, Washington Bullets) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:44:24 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Will the *real* Robyn followers please stand up? nick sez: > So here's my question: Who would *you* list in that category? I think we > can include artists or bands who have a similar sound or style, as well > as those directly influenced. well, hmm, the replacements and (of course) REM have cited robyn/soft boys as big inspirations... if there aren't more, it's probably b/c he's not as well known as a lot of musicians. or b/c what he does is pretty specific and a bit unique, it would be hard to incorporate robynism into one's persona. > If you like, I'll take the collected wisdom and email it to AMG with a > request to update their site. I can't promise they'd take any notice, > but they certainly ask for corrections and comments. sounds good to me. =b ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:14:03 -0500 (EST) From: Rich Plumb Subject: What's a Linctus? After hearing the odd story of a fan requesting that Robyn play "Linctus Hotel" in Austin, I've been listening to this rather sad and lovely number quite a bit. I'm wondering what the word means though. thanks, rich ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:20:07 -0800 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: jabbering thanks (0% Carl Palmer content) Ed.Doxtator wrote > For my money, "The Bends" is a far better album than "OK Computer" > [...] [OK Computer is] a glob of sound and it doesn't do much of > anything, other than rake in cash, which it's done quite well. Thanks for letting me know I'm not the only person who thinks this. It's not that I actively dislike "OK Computer" you understand, but I think your description sums up my impression quite well. Maybe I'll check out The Bends, though - especially now that I know it shares a producer with not only Respect, but several other albums I like. ********* Thanks for the Rumor and Sigh thread - you persuaded me to dig out my copy and give it a play last night. I'd forgotten what a great album it is. Brilliant. I remain ambivalent about Psycho Street, though. It's good in a creepy sort of way, but I wouldn't shed a tear if it was left off the album (as I would with almost any other track). I can see exactly why it would appeal to Markg, though. ;) ~N ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:31:58 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: What's a Linctus? I did a search on excite and it appears to be cough medicine. I have also heard onlist that it comes from the latin word "to lick". draw your own conclusions, ya dirty little pervs. coming to you live from the flesh hotel, =b ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 98 12:36:57 EST From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: Jabbering thanks (0% Carl Palmer content) Nick wrote: > > Ed.Doxtator wrote > > For my money, "The Bends" is a far better album than "OK Computer" > > [...] [OK Computer is] a glob of sound and it doesn't do much of > > anything, other than rake in cash, which it's done quite well. > > Thanks for letting me know I'm not the only person who thinks this. It's > not that I actively dislike "OK Computer" you understand, but I think > your description sums up my impression quite well. > > Maybe I'll check out The Bends, though - especially now that I know it > shares a producer with not only Respect, but several other albums I > like. > > ~N > I have Pablo Honey and OK Computer, the two releases that sandwich The Bends. You'll hear an even more obvious U2 influence on Pablo Honey, although there's some songs that owe their structure more to glamrock than to U2. Thom Yorke's voice is quite a bit like Bono's, so the comparison's unavoidable, but in Pablo Honey he uses Bono-like phrasing in places. All I've got of The Bends is a cut on a compilation called Triple Scoop. The cut isn't called "You Do It To Yourself", but that's the hook. The only thing I've read about The Bends was a claim that they were trying too hard to produce another song that sounded like "Creep", a hit off Pablo Honey. I like the other two releases enough that I'm sure to get The Bends sometime soon. - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:44:34 -0800 (PST) From: The Non-Prophet Subject: Re: What's a Linctus? On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Rich Plumb wrote: > After hearing the odd story of a fan requesting that Robyn > play "Linctus Hotel" in Austin, I've been listening to this > rather sad and lovely number quite a bit. > > I'm wondering what the word means though. This came up awhile back and I think that someone put forth the theory that it's a pun: "Linctus" = "Linked us". Sounds good to me... - -g- ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- Glen E. Uber uberg@sonic.net "Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible." --Frank Zappa ----------==========**********O**********==========--------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 98 09:33:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: fwd: What's a Linctus? ======== Original Message ======== After hearing the odd story of a fan requesting that Robyn play "Linctus Hotel" in Austin, I've been listening to this rather sad and lovely number quite a bit. I'm wondering what the word means though. thanks, rich ======== Fwd by: Russ Reynolds ======== Hi Rich, first of all, it's a house, not a hotel. Next, I was going to deride you for using the list as a dictionary (you must have one nearby??). But I'll take it easy on you in case you've got the same dictionary I do, which offers this definition: "same as Lincture". Unfortunately this dictionary does not include a listing for the word "lincture", so I guess we're both still in the dark. :) - -russ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:36:37 -0800 (PST) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: put away your hairshirt The hungover Joel wrote: i haven't been that drunk in years. and now i know why > robyn laughed at me when i asked him to play it again later. i didn't > know i had already asked him once. boy, this really sucks. i made a > complete fool out of myself in front of the great robyn hitchcock. i > don't think i'll ever forgive myself. > Oh, well, you shouldn't beat yourself up over this (I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, so here goes). It's actually kind of funny, in retrospect. If you recall the "most embarrassing meeting Robyn" tread, there's far worse stories than yours. I mean, you could've leapt up on stage and kissed him, like that Manchester bloke did ages ago. Who knows what happens in the dark depths of drunken blackouts? And I'm sure Robyn has quite a few drunken stories hiding in his rustling closet--see the Rhino liner notes of when he recorded "Groovy Decay/Decoy." - --Carole "I had a drink, it became four, and when I fell on the floor I drank more." "Drink, drink and be ill tonight." (both quotes from the boozy "Strangeways Here We Come" Smiths album) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 98 11:51:00 From: firstcat@lsli.com Subject: RE: fwd: What's a Linctus? Wasn't Linctus the kid with the blanket that hung with Snoopy and Charlie Brown? Cheers Jay the Smart-ass Spice - --- On Fri, 27 Mar 98 09:33:00 -0800 Russ Reynolds wrote: >======== Original Message ======== > >After hearing the odd story of a fan requesting that Robyn >play "Linctus Hotel" in Austin, I've been listening to this >rather sad and lovely number quite a bit. > >I'm wondering what the word means though. > >thanks, >rich >======== Fwd by: Russ Reynolds ======== >Hi Rich, >first of all, it's a house, not a hotel. >Next, I was going to deride you for using the list as a dictionary (you must >have one nearby??). But I'll take it easy on you in case you've got the >same dictionary I do, which offers this definition: "same as Lincture". >Unfortunately this dictionary does not include a listing for the word >"lincture", so I guess we're both still in the dark. > >:) > - -----------------End of Original Message----------------- - ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall Channel Sales Director Livermore Software Laboratories, Intl. 2825 Wilcrest, Suite 160 Houston, Texas 77042-3358 1-713-974-3274 jay@lsli.com Date: 3/27/98 - ------------------------------------- Two-Hour Luxury Goods Commercial Also A Spy Film ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:50:03 -0500 From: nicastr@idt.net (Ben) Subject: Re: rumor & sigh/polara/the bees >Subject: > Re: rumor & sigh/polara/the bees > Date: > Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:04:00 +2910 > From: > dlang > Organization: > sharktrades > To: > woj spice > References: > 1 > > > > >Woj blasphemed: >i don't >particularly like "read about love" or "i feel so good". i suppose i >could >program them out, but it's not worth the effort -- they're not that >bad...which sums up the record for me: it's not bad, but there are a few > >tunes which keep it from being really good. and "psycho street" is cool. > >... >Yikes, "I feel so good " and read about love "are *highlights* of any Rt > >show, someone get this man a copy of these songs from in concert >quickly, ot I'll do it myself we MUST convert him to the true path >asap.On the other hand, he has *some* taste ,Psycho street is wonderful >, too bad Rt doesn't seem to play it anymore..... >Dave > > > RT certainly loves :I Feel So Good", it's become one of his "standards" in concert played at just about every other show! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:44:33 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: What's a Linctus? > I'm wondering what the word means though. > A linctus is a sort of cough medicine, if I recall. While I'm sure someone will insist that it's part of a grand poetic metaphor about the house formerly being soothing, but now just making him drowsy or suchlike, I don't get it at all. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:49:46 -0500 (EST) From: Rich Plumb Subject: Re: fwd: What's a Linctus? On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Russ Reynolds wrote: > Hi Rich, > first of all, it's a house, not a hotel. > Next, I was going to deride you for using the list as a dictionary (you must > have one nearby??). But I'll take it easy on you in case you've got the > same dictionary I do, which offers this definition: "same as Lincture". > Unfortunately this dictionary does not include a listing for the word > "lincture", so I guess we're both still in the dark. > Yes I'm sorry to use the list as a dictionary and to be committing the heinous crime of following up myself. However I've now spent the last few minutes perusing the web looking for Latin sites and have discovered what I've been looking for. Linctus is a latin word from the the root lingo and it means to lick. I don't think this is the meaning Robyn intended. rich ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:26:42 EST From: MARKEEFE Subject: Re: Mitchell Froom In a message dated 98-03-27 00:31:30 EST, you write: << For those people who don't know, A lot of people on the RT list wanted to kill/maim/strand in istanbul Mitchell Froom for 'butchering' RT's latest records...I kinda like his produxction, myself, and would like to see him work with robyn. >> He's way too gimmicky for my tastes! On albums like Suzanne Vega's "99.9 F" and Los Lobos' "Colossal Head", the production is practically ALL you hear. He's not quite as bad with Richard Thompson -- in fact, I kind of liked the gritty production on the electric disc of "You? Me? Us?". But I'd be worried about him producing a Robyn album. I'd hate to see some of the delicacies lost to heavily filtered drum loops. I think Mitchell Froom produces the wrong kind of people. I mean, if he wants to create his own creative pastiche, he should be working with Luscious Jackson or Beck or some other artist/band that's less about fundamental songwriting and more about creating an interesting tapestry of hip sounds. I can appreciate what he does; I just thing he does it to the wrong kind of artists. - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:47:35 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Mitchell Froom On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, MARKEEFE wrote: > He's way too gimmicky for my tastes! On albums like Suzanne Vega's > "99.9 F" and Los Lobos' "Colossal Head", the production is practically > ALL you hear. stephin merritt of the Magnetic Fields once said "Lack of warmth is not the result of too much technology, but too little." i think Froom's prodcution on 99.9F does fall to the level of gimmickry sometimes, but most of time he does impressive, worthwhile things. and American Music Club's Mercury is a masterpiece/ i'm still divided about Crowded House and Stan Ridgway. a ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #120 *******************************