From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #115 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, March 24 1998 Volume 07 : Number 115 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Feet of clay, head of cheese (Warning: Bill Nelson content) [Tom Clar] Blue Up? ["Laurence Roberts" ] The Blue Up? ["Laurence Roberts" ] Re: Feet of clay, head of cheese (Warning: Bill Nelson content) [Aaron Ma] Re: Oscars [tanter ] Re: The Blue Up? [Eb ] Re: Feet of clay, head of cheese (Warning: Bill Nelson content) [Nick Win] Ana Voog: clarification [Eb ] Re: fizzz [nicastr@idt.net (Ben)] Re: The Big SXSW Report [Yo MTV raps tangent] [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Re: Titanic, Weeping Songs, and other non-Robyn miscellania ["Runion-1, M] female bobby? [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] welcome back! [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] crybabies all...,what's in a name [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Re: The Big SXSW Report [Yo MTV raps tangent] ["jbastin@stfx.ca" Subject: Re: Feet of clay, head of cheese (Warning: Bill Nelson content) On 3/24/98 4:36 PM, Nick Winkworth wrote: >(and in the "six degrees" column we note that John Leckie, the producer >of all Bill Nelson's early work also engineered "Ladies and Gentlemen We >Are Floating In Space", not to mention producing Radiohead's "The >Bends". Small world innit?*) > > >* Oh alright, before anyone asks: >Bill Nelson -> Kate St. John -> Julian Cope -> Robyn. OK? Didn't Leckie produce Respect? or Perspex? That would give you: Bill Nelson -> John Leckie -> Robyn. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:09:15 -0800 From: "Laurence Roberts" Subject: Blue Up? Actually, it looks like maybe Midnight actually did release "Introducing Sorrow," which appears to have been released as a solo record by Rachel but credited to The Blue Up?... anyone heard it? Larry-bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:04:33 -0800 From: "Laurence Roberts" Subject: The Blue Up? > I assume you know that one of the women in the Blue Up was legendary Web > voyeurbait Ana Ng.... Huh? How do you get that? Or is this some weird bit of TMBG lore? The members are Rachael Olson, Carolyn Rush, and Renee Branch. (and Sally Sweet on the first single.) I saw 'em open for Robyn once in Minneapolis. Wonder what ever happened to the plans for them to release a record on Midnight. Seems like they've had bad luck with record labels. Larry-bob lroberts@oacis.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:25:46 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Feet of clay, head of cheese (Warning: Bill Nelson content) On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Nick Winkworth wrote: > Bill Nelson -> Kate St. John -> Julian Cope -> Robyn. OK? what did julian and robyn do together? i'm with you about radiohead. and i have a certain fear that record labels will start trying to get a "takes a few listens to grow on you" buzz about all their new records, thinking that it can't do any harm and might have the effect of selling records to people who don't like the music -- the holy grail of marketing. a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:41:03 -0500 From: tanter Subject: Re: Oscars At 08:35 AM 3/24/98 -0800, you wrote: >Well there were no surprises last night, but I think Fay Ray was a little >out of it. I was cracking up at that one. Elliot Smith's performance was >truly engaging even when way out of his environment. I'm still surprised >when NMH is raved about on this list, but Eliott is just "hype" as the >experts say. Now that all this oscar nomination stuff is past him, maybe >he can get some peace. > >Northwest Fegs keep your fingers crossed in case Robyn decides to move the >movie north next month after playing San Francisco!! I don't think I've heard of him prior to the Oscar's, but his voice was awfully weak last night--is that typical of him? Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:02:42 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: The Blue Up? >> I assume you know that one of the women in the Blue Up was legendary Web >> voyeurbait Ana Ng.... > >Huh? How do you get that? Or is this some weird bit of TMBG lore? > >The members are Rachael Olson, Carolyn Rush, and Renee Branch. (and Sally >Sweet >on the first single.) Oops, brainfart. I meant to say Ana VOOG. I know she was in the Blue Up...perhaps "Ana Voog" is a new pseudonym for one of the above names. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:06:35 -0800 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: Re: Feet of clay, head of cheese (Warning: Bill Nelson content) Tom Clark wrote: > Didn't Leckie produce Respect? or Perspex? Curses Clark. You're right again! Thanks to the All Music Guide (www.allmusic.com) I can confirm Leckie did indeed produce Respect. Interestingly, Denise Sullivan for the AMG states the Soft Boys "were primarily responsible for keeping the Rickenbacker guitar sound alive in the years between the Byrds and R.E.M."! Boy those Rickenbacker/Telecasters were sure a classic guitar... Under "followers" for Robyn, AMG lists: The Close Lobsters, A House, Twenty Seven Various, Cul de Sac, Nilon Bombers, Rex Daisy, Poverty Stinks, Tom Alford I'm ashamed to say I havn't even heard of a single one of them. Help anyone? Opinions? ~N ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:12:33 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Ana Voog: clarification Checked the web quickly for info: Ana Voog is the Blue Up?'s Rachel Olsen under a new name. So there ya go. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:17:42 -0500 From: nicastr@idt.net (Ben) Subject: Re: fizzz >Quail quipped: >>And to some extent -- though less talented than the above -- the women in >>The Blue Up? > >I assume you know that one of the women in the Blue Up was legendary Web >voyeurbait Ana Ng.... > >Tool-Time Tews tinkled: >>joan jett (of joan jett and the blackhearts fame.) think about it. she has: >>a.) been a member of a pyschaedelic ROCK 'N' ROLL outfit. (you'll >>recall their knockout cover of Crimson and Clover which shot straight to >>the top of the pops.) > >Well, firstly, let me say that it's not often you see so many spelling >errors within one word. ;) Secondly, one Tommy James cover does NOT make >the Blackhearts a "pyschaedelic" band.... > I think that's the French spelling. np: Fairport "House Full" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:08:29 -0800 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: The Big SXSW Report [Yo MTV raps tangent] >Ob Oscar Comments: >o I left a nice smear of nose grease on the tv after following Ashley >Judd across the stage. Mmmmmmmmmm fuzzzy. Her banter was rather amusing as well. >o Madonna's had some facial surgery It was a good idea. Nice job sanding down the Bondo. Probably not Earl Scheib. >o James Cameron is a dick with a capital "D" It seems as though he is still able to control the behavior of the crew and cast of the movie. >o Someone please kill Celine Dion I am only afraid we'd get stuck with Madonna or Whitey Usless next time. >o I was glad for Kim Basinger She always struck me as cold and lacking in the depth department, but her speech was about the warmest and most feeling for me. I didn't feel like ripping it out of her hands. Re: Titanic: I didn't see it. It looked like something I would've absolutely hated, except the propeller guy. Sorry, Quail. I think if I had seen it, I probably would have been really pissed off last night. I know, this makes me appear hopelessly closed-minded. However, I think I know my tastes pretty well and Titanic rased too many red flags for me. Re: Soundtrax: I went to a party and told them that I was rooting for Danny Elfman to win. A person there told me that the academy wouldn't let him win if the category was called "best score by Danny Elfman." Could be true. I may be less than rational about this, but he can't lose forever. Re: Eb's Sharon Stone comment: Ice. Rectum. Hard to deny. She is actually a man but this tends to get overlooked in our mother-fixated, sexist media. Also: o I was happy to see Robin Williams win something. o I was somewhat surprised to see that Kenny didn't get a lifetime acheivement award, seeing how he's dead and all. o Burt Reynolds is still seething about not winning for his stellar performance in that European movie in the seventies, Smokey and the Bandit part deux. o Titanic was made by Paramount and distributed by 20th Century Fox. The employees of both companies comprise 1/4 of the votes in the academy. Any theories, Eddie? Hmmm, or should I say Hmuh? o Ashley Judd is cool. All for now, retsolG kraM- the suineg, or backward genius, of rubber sharks ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:08:43 -0500 From: "Runion-1, Michael" Subject: Re: Titanic, Weeping Songs, and other non-Robyn miscellania Okay, okay...I guess I'll post... Regarding "Titanic": I still diligently defend the movie from the historical accuracy angle. From all I've read (including an excellent book called "Titanic: End Of An Era", or something like that...my library is about 15 miles away at the moment) there is at least one eyewitness account of an officer shooting into the crowd and then taking his own life. I'm probably in the minority here, but I was stunned by even the tiny and fleeting details (e.g. one lifeboat coming down on top of another, eight flares being launched, no binoculars up in the perch) and believe it when it is said that Cameron and his crew read and reread the public record and pieced together the most accurate series of events they could. The only questionable scenario I've found regards whether the ship split from the bottom up or from the top down (as in the movie). With regards to the movie itself...it's a movie...one big bear of a Hollywood Friday-night date movie! It was fun, exciting, and ultimately satisfying for me. I'm not afraid to admit I saw it three times. Was the acting Oscar-caliber (whatever that means?)...no. Probably not. I was certainly surprised that Kate got a nomination. But a good movie is often more than the sum of its parts (to use a tired cliche). For that matter, wonderful scripts and acting can be found in many a clunker. Titanic is a blockbuster, an epic, a big Hollywood "ride" movie...and there's nothing wrong with that. As always, it comes down to personal opinion...and occasionally sliding down into a dark warm theatre seat with a box of popcorn and imagining your 10 years old again, watching Star Wars for the first time. On Sad Songs: For those mom and pop's out there with little ones..."A Child Like Grace" off Michelle Shocked's Kind Hearted Woman album. A wrenching tear-jerker. On the East Coast Feg Party: Damn, I wish I could be there...PA's just a tad far to the North though. Let me dwell on this some more though. I've got an old college pal over in Hazelton. I'll be in between semesters. Hmmm. On Richard Thompson: Picked up "Rumor And Sigh" this weekend. It's not sinking in as quickly as "...Bright Lights Tonight" did on its first few spins. What am I doing wrong? Help! Mike n.p. Fleetwood Mac - The Dance (it's one of those 10 year old Star Wars things...don't ask.) Mike Runion EG&G S&MA Data & Analyses; ADoCS Office 867-3619 BOC-251 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:25:44 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: female bobby? On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:51:02 -0500 (EST), you wrote: > >Daniel writes, > >>there seems to be a shortage of >>women surrealistic singer/songwriters. Is this just because the media is >>only picking up on the bland Lilith Fair types at the moment? I admit >>I'm fairly ignorant on the topic. Could somebody reel off a few names? > >I have a feeling that I will not be the only one to offer these names, >but I find the following singers, if not *as* surreal, at least as >clever, witty, and off-center as Robyn: > >Tori Amos >Laurie Anderson >Bjork >(Early) Suzanne Vega YOKO ONO! (well, she certainly is 'eccentric' and 'ecclectic'...:-) ) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:30:45 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: welcome back! On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:39:36 -0500 (EST), you wrote: > >- -g- > >Glen E. Uber uberg@sonic.net >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:12:33 -0800 (PST) >From: The Non-Prophet >Subject: Don't talk to me... > >In the "Oscar Hall of Fame" bit that they did during last night's >telecast, there were several notable absences: Emma Thompson, Tom Hanks, >Anthony Hopkins, Jodie Foster, Katherine Hepburn, et. al. > >Gene Hackman didn't show up, either. And we didn't even get Andie >MacDowell. > >Glen, who could be Gene himself for all you know... Glen, welcome back!! Have you worked out your computer problems? Is 'Crystal Branches' a go again? -luther np- Nothing!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:28:56 -0800 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: crybabies all...,what's in a name Glen's suggestion of the Exposure version of "Here Comes the Flood" is the only one mentioned here that really gets me. There is a song by a local folkie named Glen McPherson called, "Mr. Fix-It Man" that tears me up. He's also a great guitarist and singer. Please do chime in if you've heard it/him. My oldest brother used to make me cry whenever he sang. If he kept singing, my internal organs would begin to hemorhage He was just simply fucking terrible. He's been taking voice lessons, so maybe he won't be able to crack cryptonite anymore. still laughing about Glen's post about names. Sorry about the "Dodge Ball" post. It seemed to have related to our thread. - -Mark Gloster who was called: Lobster (really, people still sing "Mark Gloster" instead of "Rock Lobster" around me) Globster Micro Glob (older siblings were Glob and Mini Glob- I had to put a stop to this one) Glouchestershire Richardson (there was a wide receiver of the Patriots named Gloucester Richardson) It could be worse. My step sister's name is Stormy Drainey I kid U not. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:28:26 -0400 From: "jbastin@stfx.ca" Subject: Re: The Big SXSW Report [Yo MTV raps tangent] I think Robin Williams is far better suited to TV than movies. And I wish Robert Duvall has won something for "The Apostle", if only for the passion he put into making it. And Burt Reynold's performance in "Deliverance" more than makes up for "Smokey"... As for James Cameron, ugh... Very frightening. I'm sure Warren Beatty was deeply satisfied by being on stage with the self-professed "King of the World". A few seconds silence for the living dead and then "Party till Dawn!" Mark_Gloster@3com.com wrote: > >Ob Oscar Comments: > >o I left a nice smear of nose grease on the tv after following Ashley > >Judd across the stage. > > Mmmmmmmmmm fuzzzy. Her banter was rather amusing as well. > > >o Madonna's had some facial surgery > > It was a good idea. Nice job sanding down the Bondo. Probably > not Earl Scheib. > > >o James Cameron is a dick > > with a capital "D" > It seems as though he is still able to control the behavior of the > crew and cast of the movie. > > >o Someone please kill Celine Dion > > I am only afraid we'd get stuck with Madonna or Whitey Usless next > time. > > >o I was glad for Kim Basinger > > She always struck me as cold and lacking in the depth department, > but her speech was about the warmest and most feeling for me. I > didn't feel like ripping it out of her hands. > > Re: Titanic: > I didn't see it. It looked like something I would've absolutely > hated, except the propeller guy. Sorry, Quail. I think if I had > seen it, I probably would have been really pissed off last night. > I know, this makes me appear hopelessly closed-minded. However, > I think I know my tastes pretty well and Titanic rased too many > red flags for me. > > Re: Soundtrax: > I went to a party and told them that I was rooting for Danny > Elfman to win. A person there told me that the academy wouldn't > let him win if the category was called "best score by Danny > Elfman." Could be true. I may be less than rational about this, > but he can't lose forever. > > Re: Eb's Sharon Stone comment: > Ice. Rectum. Hard to deny. She is actually a man but this tends > to get overlooked in our mother-fixated, sexist media. > > Also: > o I was happy to see Robin Williams win something. > o I was somewhat surprised to see that Kenny didn't get a > lifetime acheivement award, seeing how he's dead and all. > o Burt Reynolds is still seething about not winning for his > stellar performance in that European movie in the seventies, > Smokey and the Bandit part deux. > o Titanic was made by Paramount and distributed by 20th > Century Fox. The employees of both companies comprise 1/4 > of the votes in the academy. Any theories, Eddie? Hmmm, or ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:17:48 -0500 From: "J. Katherine Rossner" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #114 >From: sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain) >Subject: Re: remember the songs that made you cry? > >I also like to sing songs I can't really sing when showering. Yes, but don't you notice that they're somewhat more singable in the shower? (Not the multi-part harmony ones, though, and maybe that's what you meant.) Is it the acoustics of showers, or being surrounded by warm vapor, or what? >Are you in Illinois? Spiffing! That makes four of us (that I know of) in >Illanoize. The feg takeover is imminent :). Argh! No, sorry to have misled you. I live in the Bay Area but have been on the East Coast since last fall but will be driving home some time in late April or early May, for which drive a stopover in Illinois is very tentatively on the schedule. What I was picturing was a get-together en route, and then the West Coast gathering after I get home--and what a pity there won't be an East Coast one before I leave; going to all three might reallly have been fun! (Meanwhile, if any of you (a) make good conversation and (b) can put up with my taste in music and (c) want to ride coast-to-coast at the end of April...well, contact me and maybe we can work something out. I drove East alone but for some reason am really dreading the return trip. >>Why do people always think the joke is *new* to the bearer of the name, as >>well as funny? > >You got me. They always think I'm a humorless killjoy when I don't laugh at >Dodge Trucks jokes or jokes about westerns ("so, are you from Dodge City? >bang bang!") or plays on the word dodgeball (as Fozzie Bear would say, "ha >ha, funneeee!") as if in fact I -haven't- been hearing them all my life. > >And they look surprised when I remark that no goofus, just in case you're >wondering, this is not the first time someone sang "Wake Up Little Suzie" or >"Runaround Sue" at me :). Geez. Yes, exactly. (When I was listing such things, I forgot "I Dream of Jeanie" and that awful song from "The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie".) ***** >From: firstcat@lsli.com >Subject: Addicted to Noise, RH SXSW round-up Thanks for sending all that along--I'd read one of the articles but forgot the rest. Now, who is the author and why is s/he mentioning RH so often--or is this a listmember writing? **** [oops--deleted author--sorry] > Given that few artists put much time or >thought into their lyrics, I find him refreshing. Ellis Paul, Ellis Paul, Ellis Paul... :) **** Meanwhile, I too am trying without much success to think of surrealistic female singer-songwriters. Cheryl Wheeler, at times. Christine Lavin? Emily Kaitz, just possibly, but I have to listen to more of her stuff. **** >From: Nick Winkworth > >That movie about the boat: > >And I said I'd never get sucked into this thread... >Eb remarked: >> Regarding James Cameron: I gather that he's not exactly a popular >> guy in Hollywood, on a personal level. >Often compared to Captain Ahab, I hear. Still, you have to admit, the >guy does know how to spend $200 million! No, we don't! The lights went up, and I turned to my friend Minna and said, "You know, if *I* were spending $200 million on a film, I'd spend more than fifty bucks on a script." And she said, "I knew that would be the first thing you'd say!" Ugh. I hated the movie. And since I usually only see one or two movies a year, I resented spending the time to make that one of them. (Last year's other movie--I *think* the only one--was Kenneth Branagh's "Hamlet".) Yes, OK, I also saw a few videos. Katherine - -- Ye knowe ek, that in forme of speche is chaunge Withinne a thousand yere, and wordes tho That hadden pris, now wonder nyce and straunge Us thinketh hem, and yet they spake hem so. - Chaucer ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:52:05 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Replying to 150kb of digests from yesterday (long, multi-thread) Not one but *four* digests arrived today. And it wasn't even full moon... TGQ repoened an old thread that I started: >James writes: >>ah, another list and discussion topic: are there any songs that have driven >>you to tears? (and not by being awful!) For their own sake, this is, rather >>than for any connection with real life events. since writing that, I've thought of another song I should have mentioned at the time but didn't... Crash Test Dummy's "Superman Song". It was particularly fitting the fiorst time I saw it, as the background for part of an episode of that weird but wonderful Canadian series Due South. "Superman Song" is real teary-eyed territory. Ol' Quailie also mentioned the Pogues "Fairytale of New York". I'd add "A rainy night in soho" to that list. Throw in Hunters and Collectors "Circle round the flame" and "Throw your arms around me" for good measure too. As for Robyn songs, the "I'll reach your lungs" verse of Cynthia Mask sometimes comes close. And yeah, 'lamp' would've been a typo. I shall try not to make typos in future. Soory! >> everyone >> >got off their faces on good beer >> Hm. Aussie slang, I hope? >Indeed, and *lying* Aussie slang to boot! 'Good beer' in Australia? I >hope you were drinking Speights! ;) ah, the pride of the south! :) >James asks: >> PS - have you ever tried fitting an outboard motor to a yellow-eyed >> penguin? Those damn things bite! (the penguins, that is...) >James, I must say I'm disappointed. I was counting on you for a ride. >Perhaps we could attach an outboard motor to Jenny Shipley, and then >capsize her and swim to shore when we get close to home? ah yes, a true Jenny Shipwreck... then they'd have the sequel to the Titanic. three and a half million people clinging to little lifeboats... >Danielle, who thinks whips-around are admirable, but only if everyone >contributes, and who is out of pocket as a result of last weekend's >club-together effort we could all have a whip-round down at the local, and see if we could get the quail to shout! ;) >The CD included a cavalcade (whatever that means) of star-studded >performances of listmembers and non-listmembers like it means a procession of people on horseback. There's a real one doing its bit for the province's 150th anniversary about 50 miles from here as I type. From the word 'caval-' meaning horse. Cavalry, Chevalier, Cavalier, Caballero, Cavalcade. How many of us *were* on horseback when we recorded? I(I know *I* was...) >Six degrees of separation, etc.: >The other day I needed to research a heraldry question; after using various >net-searches, I went to what seemed the best glossary and found it was from >James Dignan. Yesterday I was trying to learn more about a >singer/songwriter whose disc (picked up in the clearance bin for a dollar >or two) has *no* information other than an address; Alta Vista turned up a >bunch of references to somebody else by the same name (or maybe the same >guy in his day job?) and two Web pages that included that disc in their >music list--the second of which had a prominent link to Mark Gloster's >page. How often am I going to run into the rest of you? there is a theory, that I tend to agree with, that 90% of the people on the planet are really just cardboard cutouts. Very cleverly constructed, mind, you could never tell without a very close inspection. These are the people no-one knows. All of the actual activity on the planet, the meeting people, gleaning information, etc, is done by the 500 million "real people" on the planet. Once you remove those who you can't understand because they speak only Mandarin, Hindi or Serbo-Croat and other - well, foreign - languages, you're left with a mere 90 million people. Worldwide, 2% of people have email access. That leaves 1,800,000 people. Some of these are of, shall we kindly say limited capabilities mentally. Some may be insane. Others may be Celine Dion flans. Whatever. Removing them from the calculation leaves a mere one and a half million. Is it any wonder we keep bumping into each other? >Well, the East Coast gathering will be after I leave (though originally >scheduled for a time when I might still be here). *Please* make the West >Coast one some time after I get back (OK, Memorial Day ought to do)...and >of course I have to vote for the Bay Area rather than the Southland. I vote for Southland! It's less than an hours drive away! To keep the US fans happy we could avoid the neighbouring towns of Clinton and Gore (fact...check your atlases...) Oh, and I second the comment about Ayub Ogada's En Mana Kuoyo. A beautiful alnbum - just one man and his nyatiti (I swear, I am *not* making this up!). I know that Kronkrohinko was a historical person, an African Queen (pace Bogart & Hepburn fans), but the rest I've no idea about. I adore the track Obiero. >>PS - have you ever tried fitting an outboard motor to a yellow-eyed >>penguin? Those damn things bite! (the penguins, that is...) > >All right, I'll play straight girl: why were you fitting an outboard motor >to a yellow-eyed penguin? (And did the latter bite *you*, or the *motor*?) transport to the quail's party. He suggested a platypus, but penguins do more miles per gallon. >=b, who is currently working with the Quail on a massive feg database full >of juicy secrets ever notice that =b looks remarkably like Eb? Sort of very similar in fact... I wonder... >was it just me or when Helen Hunt won best actress did Kate Winslett get >that same pained expression on her face that the Rhode Island basketball >team wore at the end of Sunday's game? she was carrying that through much of the ceremony, and I don't think it was anything to do with that particular award. Check the expressions as the winner was announced. Either she was happy that Hunt had won or she is a better actress than I thought... I noticed that the people with their cameras on the audience were deliberately hunting for cheap shots: 'let's see if we can find someone who looks cross because they lost". They hit their nadir when Samuel L. Jackson came out to speak "ooh...let's see if we can find any other black people in the audience..." Sigh. Addicted to Noise was reported here as saying: >Germany such as Surrogat, or Houston-based Tejano combo Los Palominos, >Australian rock courtesy of Garageland, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Aus(censored)tralian!!! Hand me my shotgun... erm... calling a New Zealand band Australian goes down about as well in these parts as going into a pub in Dublin and referring to U2, Riverdance or James Joyce as English. >>there seems to be a shortage of women surrealistic singer/songwriters. >Kate Bush is the only one I could think of off the top of my head. Jane Siberry is another, and of course there's Laurie Anderson, and some strange Canadian woman called something like Medlyn Cadell (anyone know her proper name? Had a strange song called "Sweaters" that was big on (NZ) college radio a couple of years back). Suzanne Vega can be pretty nicely strange at times, too. And of course my darling Tori Amos. Um...that is...I...erm... >Whereas >a small film with no "stars" like "The Full Monty" is still drawing people >into the theaters after 6 months No stars? I went to see it because I'm a Robbie Carlyle fan. :) >Incidentally, I also bought Spiritualized "L&GWAFIS" at the same time, >which I have to say I like a whole lot more I still don't think it's as good as their first, "Lazer (sic) Guided Melodies" ObRobyn: I recently read a review of GLTHO in the Rolling Stone record guide that refers to the quieter number from the video as being like "bizarre David Bowie songs". I'd never noticed the similarity before, but there may be something in it... anyone? James, now wearing official the Fegmaniax outfit (Cynthia mask optional) ps: James Dignan->Simon O'Connor->Kate Winslet->glug glug glug pps: car boot (that's trunk to you) often contains: one portable flagpole; a rug; spare tyre; guitar and case; a big thick book to read in case of breakdown (currently a history of surrealist art); a box of tapes; a first aid kit; a packet of chips (salt & vinegar); travelling chess/backgammon/yahtzee ppps: anyone like to tell me how to pronounce Jill Sobule's surname? Picked up "Happy town" the other day, and it's raather pleasant. pppps: I agree about the jokes on names comment (he says, indignantly) James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #115 *******************************