From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #113 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, March 24 1998 Volume 07 : Number 113 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: The Big SXSW Report [Yo MTV raps tangent] [chichi@io.com (Zelda Pinwh] Oscars [Paul Montagne ] titanic revisited [Robert Thompson ] the usual miscellany ["J. Katherine Rossner" ] Re: Fashion, idiocy, etc ,etc, etc [Bayard ] Re: Oscars [lj lindhurst ] Linda Ryan [Russ Reynolds ] Call any vegetable [The Non-Prophet ] fwd: Titanic (0% anything interesting) [Russ Reynolds ] Cry Baby Cry [The Non-Prophet ] Re: fuckin' dipshit with a nine-toed woman [Aaron Mandel ] sxsw and so long [Joel Mullins ] Re: The female Robyn Hitchcock? [Ross Overbury ] Re: Oscars [sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain)] Re: Oscars & stuff [Eb ] Re: The female Robyn Hitchcock? [The Great Quail ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:58:31 -0400 From: chichi@io.com (Zelda Pinwheel) Subject: Re: The Big SXSW Report [Yo MTV raps tangent] At 2:28 AM 3/24/1998, KarmaFuzzz wrote:>In a message dated 98-03-23 22:50:48 EST, chichi@io.com writes: > ><< Briefly preceding the movie were some remarks by director Jonathan Demme > (who himself was preceded by toadies) and then Robyn, who said among other > things:"Yo! MtV raps!" This statement will be seen later as foreshadowing. > >> > >wasn't Yo! created by Jonathan's Son? Nephew? Ted Demme? Hmmm...interesting. The son that he had in tow couldn't have been any older than 8, so I don't think it was him, but beyond that I haven't a clue. Anyone else? z ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This product is sold by weight, not volume. Some settling of contents may have occurred during shipping and handling. May contain peanuts. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:35:46 -0800 From: Paul Montagne Subject: Oscars Well there were no surprises last night, but I think Fay Ray was a little out of it. I was cracking up at that one. Elliot Smith's performance was truly engaging even when way out of his environment. I'm still surprised when NMH is raved about on this list, but Eliott is just "hype" as the experts say. Now that all this oscar nomination stuff is past him, maybe he can get some peace. Northwest Fegs keep your fingers crossed in case Robyn decides to move the movie north next month after playing San Francisco!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:47:04 -0500 From: Robert Thompson Subject: titanic revisited Actually what Mr. Cameron did was worse than simply create characters. According to the Globe and Mail, Canada's nation paper, what Cameron did was take real people and make things up. Leo's character did exist, but he was a deck hand or something. He's buried in Halifax. The first mate who goes a little nuts and shoots people, actually is documented to be quite the opposite and went down with the ship in order to get more people on the rafts. There's more, but I can't seem to recall all the details. Good special effects: bad history. And didn't Cameron, after the moment of silence, say, "Let's party till dawn?" A very thoughtful, sympathetic man. Robert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:03:34 -0500 From: "J. Katherine Rossner" Subject: the usual miscellany Six degrees of separation, etc.: The other day I needed to research a heraldry question; after using various net-searches, I went to what seemed the best glossary and found it was from James Dignan. Yesterday I was trying to learn more about a singer/songwriter whose disc (picked up in the clearance bin for a dollar or two) has *no* information other than an address; Alta Vista turned up a bunch of references to somebody else by the same name (or maybe the same guy in his day job?) and two Web pages that included that disc in their music list--the second of which had a prominent link to Mark Gloster's page. How often am I going to run into the rest of you? You're infecting my brain, anyway. Last week, after pawing through yet another clearance bin, I took home three Richard and Linda Thompson cassettes (FIRST LIGHT, SUMMERVISTA, SHOOT OUT THE LIGHTS). **** >From: The Great Quail >Subject: Old Thread: Driven to Tears Somehow I'd missed this one before, but... >"If I was a Blackbird," "Loch Tay Boat Song," "Valley of Strathmore," >"The Chill Eastern Winds" -- all my the Scottish songwriter Andrew M. >Stewart, who used to front Silly Wizard. I'd just been listening to LIVE WIZARDRY before reading this email! I'd add "The Broom of the Cowden Knowes" (traditional, but Silly Wizard) to the list. Ellis Paul, "Last Call" and "Did I Ever Know You?" Eileen McGann, "Braw Sailin' on the Sea" and "Reach for the Light" James Keelaghan, "Cold Missouri Waters" Stone Poneys, "Sweet Summer Blue and Gold" (and I think there were others on that album...if I can ever find it again...) >"Cats in the Cradle" yes, of course ***** >From: "JH3" > >I don't know which is scarier, the idea that this woman actually exists, or >the fact that someone married her. If you'll forgive a little more psych neeping: it's one of the criteria of a Delusional Disorder that the person appears otherwise "normal"--i.e., that when she's dealing with the rest of her life, someone like this wouldn't appear crazy. This is one of the main ways to differentiate something like Erotomania from, say, paranoid schizophrenia, which is much more pervasive. So somebody could marry her not realizing that she was insane in this way... On the other hand, I've met paranoid schizophrenics who were married, so perhaps there's hope for *anybody*. A comforting thought to some of us. :) **** > >From: Tom Clark > >In a semi-private discussion, Mr. Nick Winkworth brought up an >interesting idea: Why not steal Quail's thunder and have a West Coast >Feg Gathering at the same time as our East Coast bretheren? Ok, so he >didn't use those words exactly, but the idea does have it's merits! >Anyone? Well, the East Coast gathering will be after I leave (though originally scheduled for a time when I might still be here). *Please* make the West Coast one some time after I get back (OK, Memorial Day ought to do)...and of course I have to vote for the Bay Area rather than the Southland. **** >From: Bayard >Subject: Re: Interesting Party News > >=b "and then we'll meet in kansas the next week for a fegrugby match, and >a round of fizbin" How about Illinois, earlier in the month? :) **** >From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) >As for the bath, I wouldn't listen to Robyn music in the bath. Baths are >times to relax totally. Late at night, by candlelight, with perhaps a well >thumbed old book (Sherlock Holmes stories work well, for some reason), and >for music? It's gotta be instrumental or with vocals that act as etra >instruments, rather than intruding into my thoughts, and slightly exotic. Along those lines, I recommend EN MANA KUOYO, by Ayub Ogada. (No, I don't know what the title means. I don't know what *any* of it means; that's probably why it works for me as "vocals that act as e[x]tra instruments". >PS - have you ever tried fitting an outboard motor to a yellow-eyed >penguin? Those damn things bite! (the penguins, that is...) All right, I'll play straight girl: why were you fitting an outboard motor to a yellow-eyed penguin? (And did the latter bite *you*, or the *motor*?) **** >From: The Non-Prophet >Imagine having a name like mine. Put my first initial with my last name >and see what you come up with. Yeah! That's right! Pretty effin' hilarious, >isn't it? That is how I was known all through school. Best years of my life, >my ass! ;-) Why do people always think the joke is *new* to the bearer of the name, as well as funny? "Don't you listen when you're told/about the best days of your life/a useless old expression, it means passing time until you die..." (Spirit of the West, "Runboy") **** Usual trunk contents: London Times crosswords Sleeping bag and pad Tent Knapsack (spare underwear, t-shirt, toothbrush, contact lens stuff, flashlight) Box of tapes Walkthing "Encore" (song lyrics game) Food (dried fruit, protein bars, rice cakes, etc.) At least two books Jump rope Katherine n.p. INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK. So far I really like "A Skull, a Suitcase, and a Long Red Bottle of Wine" and probably "The Abandoned Brain"; other stuff will take a while. (OK, so I'm trying hard to include *some* relevant content...) - -- Ye knowe ek, that in forme of speche is chaunge Withinne a thousand yere, and wordes tho That hadden pris, now wonder nyce and straunge Us thinketh hem, and yet they spake hem so. - Chaucer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:06:44 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Fashion, idiocy, etc ,etc, etc dannie pounded: > other fegs pictures of his butt. ;) I didn't really know whether you > were being sarcastic or not. I think my point is valid either way; if Eb > doesn't harp on about his job - and he really doesn't, insider knowledge > and emphatic prose style notwithstanding - why should we? And it doesn't > matter whether anyone had made educated guesses, I don't think. Before > November, most of you didn't for-sure know, mainly because he didn't > *want* you to know. Surely that's significant? Oh well. Whatever. (And I'm just hoping no-one finds out I work for the government. oops. Anyway, all this secrecy is just silly. We're all friends here. We all have something to contribute. Alls I was saying is, let's *make* those contributions, and quit taking pot shots at one another. =b, who is currently working with the Quail on a massive feg database full of juicy secrets ps. substitute "24-bit JPEGs" for "faxes". only the best for my friends... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:19:46 -0500 (EST) From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: Oscars I was kind of hoping Eb would get up there and dance again, like he did at the Grammys. lj, who didn't make it past the Michael Bolton song without hitting the MUTE button and crankin up OASIS ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 98 09:19:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Linda Ryan Can anyone point me to an interview in which Robyn discusses Linda Ryan and how she ended up in "Flesh Cartoons"? Does anyone remember him ever explaining this? Loony oh loony oh loony oh loony oh. Russ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:46:58 -0800 (PST) From: The Non-Prophet Subject: Call any vegetable Zelda Pinwheel hat geschrieben: > (By the way, one of the things I love about this list is that no one > would dare question why I have a bag of artificial produce with me at > any given time.) Question? No... Wonder? That's another thing entirely. Cheers! - -g- Glen E. Uber uberg@sonic.net =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 98 09:42:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: fwd: Titanic (0% anything interesting) ======== Original Message ======== Well, it happened. But I need to make the point (here is as good as anywhere..?) that not getting any acting awards or best screenplay does help to show that, perhaps, it really isn't that great a film. The awards it did get were for visual and aural effects of one type or another. The directing award is still related to those and, I suggest, even the best film award. It actually made me a bit angry when Cameron did the PC bit during his final acceptance speech, asking the audience for a few moments of silence for the real people who died in the disaster. In all the interviews I've heard and read (and I'm sure I missed some) he never once said anything about the dead victims. He's been a bit crass, I thought, about questions asking why he created characters that weren't based on real people (I don't recall any straight answers but there may have been some). Heaven forbid the Academy chooses a film that actually works as a great film rather than as a technology showcase. Marcy (if I could, I'd make a film.....) ======== Fwd by: Russ Reynolds ======== was it just me or when Helen Hunt won best actress did Kate Winslett get that same pained expression on her face that the Rhode Island basketball team wore at the end of Sunday's game? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:11:06 -0800 (PST) From: The Non-Prophet Subject: Cry Baby Cry Songs that make me blubber: It's mainly classical stuff, most notably, Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, John Williams' "Theme From Schindler's List", and Henryk Mikolaj Gorecki's "Symphony No. 3 - The Symphony of Sorrowful Songs for soprano and orchestra". On the pop side: "Box Of Rain" - the Grateful Dead (I want this song played at my wake) "Watching The Wheels", "Love" and "God" - John Lennon "Streets Of Laredo" - Marty Robbins "Hot Burrito #1" and "Wheels" - The Flying Burrito Brothers "Hickory Wind" - Gram Parsons "Long Black Veil" - Lefty Frizzell "Everybody Hurts" -- REM (usually when I watch the video) "Here Comes The Flood" - Peter Gabriel (the version on Robert Fripp's _Exposure_) "Birds Of Fire" - Mahavishnu Orchestra The coda of Pearl Jam's "Black" always gets me, too. I agree with Quail about "The Foggy Dew", "Love Song" and "Just Like Heaven". Truly marvelous songs! I know there are many others. Jeez, I'm just as sappy as the Duke of Quail. - -g- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Glen E. Uber uberg@sonic.net =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:45:40 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: fuckin' dipshit with a nine-toed woman On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Eb wrote: > Anyway, it's not like critics are the only ones who hear albums prior to > official release. Far from it. > [ ... ] > OK, please pardon my giving some advance word. Some other folks might > appreciate getting a peek ahead of the curve, so to speak. And if your > college station gets a copy of the new Spinanes disc (Arches & Aisles) > before it's available in stores, I trust that you'll keep your views about > it *strictly* to yourself until the appropriate time. eb, i'm not trying to give you a hard time. at all. if i get to hear something in advance, i usually don't say much about it until shortly before it comes out because i expect that most people won't have anything to say in response. but that's a personal preference. i don't think mentioning it is tantamount to gloating. my point was that anyone who read your posts would know that you're someone with a lot of records and opinions, with the former arriving early, and the latter expressed forcefully and defended aggressively. it seems like a moot point that you're paid to be a critic. now, this is all just my point of view. i'm well aware that some people here think writing about music is only slightly better than grinding up puppy dogs, as professions go. in ANY case, who did rebecca gates find to play drums? a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:11:13 -0700 From: dsaunder@islandnet.com (Daniel Saunders) Subject: The Wight House I was looking through the liner notes for Respect today, and in the photograph of the recording area it looked like there were trees and other foliage growing *inside* the house. Does anybody have info on the eccentricities of Robyn's house? - -- Daniel Saunders Reality is that which when you stop believing in it, it doesn't go away. - Philip K. Dick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:11:13 -0700 From: dsaunder@islandnet.com (Daniel Saunders) Subject: Re: remember the songs that made you cry? "Chinese Bones", played live with band accompaniment. That line about Peter Sellers, "just because you're not yourself / Doesn't mean you can't die" tears me up quite a bit. In the shower? I like to sing Airscape, because there nobody has to hear me attempt to hit the high notes. "The tide recedes upon the bones of something beautiful.." :) - -- Daniel Saunders Reality is that which when you stop believing in it, it doesn't go away. - Philip K. Dick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:11:13 -0700 From: dsaunder@islandnet.com (Daniel Saunders) Subject: The female Robyn Hitchcock? An odd phenomenon I've noticed is that while there are quite a few white males who do something similar to Robyn - Julian Cope, Syd Barrett, Tim Keegan, Neutral Milk Hotel, etc. etc. - there seems to be a shortage of women surrealistic singer/songwriters. Is this just because the media is only picking up on the bland Lilith Fair types at the moment? I admit I'm fairly ignorant on the topic. Could somebody reel off a few names? - -- Daniel Saunders Reality is that which when you stop believing in it, it doesn't go away. - Philip K. Dick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 98 11:17:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Re: fuckin' dipshit with a nine-toed woman Aaron remarks: >now, this is all just my point of view. i'm well aware that some people >here think writing about music is only slightly better than grinding up >puppy dogs, as professions go. As someone who grinds puppy dogs for a living, I resent the implication that my profession is somehow loathsome. It's not like I'm a critic or anything. gotta get back to work--they're starting to stack up on me. - -rr ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:24:06 -0800 (PST) From: Dede Davis Subject: Re: The female Robyn Hitchcock? - ---Daniel Saunders wrote: > > An odd phenomenon I've noticed is that while there are quite a few white > males who do something similar to Robyn - Julian Cope, Syd Barrett, Tim > Keegan, Neutral Milk Hotel, etc. etc. - there seems to be a shortage of > women surrealistic singer/songwriters. Is this just because the media is > only picking up on the bland Lilith Fair types at the moment? I admit > I'm fairly ignorant on the topic. Could somebody reel off a few names? > > -- > Daniel Saunders > Reality is that which when you stop believing in it, it doesn't go away. > - Philip K. Dick > Kate Bush is the only one I could think of off the top of my head. == Dede "Out of boredom/ I decided/ I'd get with it"--MCC _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:29:41 -0600 From: Joel Mullins Subject: sxsw and so long hey guys. well, i'm really sorry i missed you guys at sxsw. i was there, but never did see a planet of the apes t-shirt. i didn't go to the film. i wanted to show up early for the concert. i was there by 7:45. and that was probably a big mistake. by the time Robyn came on stage, i was so hammered that the next morning i couldn't remember anything about the show. i did get to meet him before the show and got his autograph. then, while he was playing, i remember sneaking backstage and drinking beer with Deni's bassist. i remember watching part of the show from the side of the stage, but i don't remember what he was playing. when he came backstage before playing his encore, i asked him if he'd play "Linctus House." he laughed and said he couldn't remember that one. and that's all i remember. i've seen him quite a few times before and will most likely see him again, so i guess it's not the end of the world that this time i only pseudo-saw him. if any of you saw a crazy short guy, drunker than shit and making a complete moron of himself, then that was probably me. well, i'm sorry to say that i'm going to have to unsubscribe to this list. i have had a lot of fun talking to ya'll, but i just don't have the time to sort through all this mail everyday. some friends and i are about to embark on a big writing project together via e-mail. and then with work and school and my own music i'm afraid i'm too busy. but i want to thank ya'll for all the good conversation and the great recommendations. you guys turned me on to Nick Drake's albums and Nick Hornby's "High Fidelity" and re-turned me on to Elvis Costello and XTC. Thank you very much. it has been great fun. i'll be back on the list as soon I as get some other responsibilities out of the way. LONG LIVE FEGS! =joel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 98 14:58:13 EST From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: The female Robyn Hitchcock? She's not a female Robyn, but Jane Siberry writes some interesting, quirky songs. - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:05:29 -0600 From: sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain) Subject: Re: Oscars >Well there were no surprises last night, but I think Fay Ray was a little >out of it. I was cracking up at that one. Yeah there were. I didn't know Burgess Meredith had died! :) As to Fay, well, really, I know it was supposed to be a fantastic surprise for her and everything, but when you're dealing with someone that old perhaps you ought to warn her she's going to be singled out in front of 1 billion people worldwide. At least make sure she knows who the hell she's talking to! > Elliot Smith's performance was >truly engaging even when way out of his environment. Yes, I thought so too, I'm glad someone else did. I'm happy that I watched the songs this time to catch that. Usually I flip channels or something during those because they make me ill to watch. It could just be though, that a song like that really stood out as a pleasant surprise amid all the MOR ballad generica they usually nominate. I was reading an article the other day (I forget who by) that suggested that the best song category was pretty much useless, that it had some meaning in the days when you had a lot of musicals (where the songs actually were key, in the sense of serving the function of furthuring the plot) and a much larger amount of songs to pick from, but now most songs nominated are some future adult contemporary hit song usually played over the credits. I couldn't agree more. Love on ya, Susan P.S. The best dramatic score award really bothered me. Both John Williams' "Amistad" score (probably the best thing about the movie, really striking- I made the people I was with stay for the credits just so I could see who did the music) and Philip Glass's score for "Kundun" were a lot more interesting than Horner's. It just happened to be his luck that it was for um, -that- movie, which meant that it was also a best seller, and they can't ignore that I guess. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:09:47 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Oscars & stuff Paul wrote: >I'm still surprised >when NMH is raved about on this list, but Eliott is just "hype" as the >experts say. Man, I really try to like Elliott Smith...heard the previous releases when they were new. I just don't warm up to him (or Heatmiser, for that matter). Well-intentioned, but too listless a performer and melodically really weak. It just seems to me like a bunch of indie snobs who knee-jerk dismiss Neil Young, Paul Simon, Dylan, etc. finally found a confessional acoustic songwriter they can embrace without feeling guilty. Daniel wrote: >An odd phenomenon I've noticed is that while there are quite a few white >males who do something similar to Robyn - Julian Cope, Syd Barrett, Tim >Keegan, Neutral Milk Hotel, etc. etc. - there seems to be a shortage of >women surrealistic singer/songwriters. Kristin Hersh (who seems to have lots of fans on this list) is often surreal...Cindy Lee Berryhill loves to ramble...Laurie Anderson has her surreal moments...umm.... Regarding James Cameron: I gather that he's not exactly a popular guy in Hollywood, on a personal level. Random question: Why is it whenever Sharon Stone speaks at award ceremonies, her facial expression suggests that someone's inserting ice cubes into her rectum? Eb, futilely trying to figure out a way to listen to "Zaireeka" in the appropriate manner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 98 15:26:54 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: The female Robyn Hitchcock? Daniel writes, >there seems to be a shortage of >women surrealistic singer/songwriters. Is this just because the media is >only picking up on the bland Lilith Fair types at the moment? I admit >I'm fairly ignorant on the topic. Could somebody reel off a few names? I have a feeling that I will not be the only one to offer these names, but I find the following singers, if not *as* surreal, at least as clever, witty, and off-center as Robyn: Tori Amos Laurie Anderson Bjork (Early) Suzanne Vega And to some extent -- though less talented than the above -- the women in The Blue Up? Of course, I know that some Fegs can post about three dozen more, but I can never pass up an opportunity to mention Tori Amos and Laurie Anderson in the same breath. An interesting collorary: Why are there less "surreal" women singers? Is it genetic wiring, social conditioning, a little of both, or maybe just Capuchin's fault? - --Quail PS: (My I'm sorry for all the postscripts today!) The East Coast Feg Party looks like it will be Memorial Day Saturday. Details to come privately -- please email me if you are not on the Sacred List of Antioch. I promise I will say nothing about that movie with the sinking boat. - ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail, K.S.C. | Literature Site - The Libyrinth: TheQuail@cthulhu.microserve.com | www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth www.rpg.net/quail | Vampire Site - New York by Night: riverrun Discordian Society | www.rpg.net/quail/NYBN 73 De Chirico Street | Arkham, Orbis Tertius 2112-42 | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 98 15:26:44 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: rant rant rant rant. . . . . (100% delete now content) . . . . damn thread, I just can't . . . seem to . . . . untangle myself. . . . Yes, I know. Just delete it. I'm sick of it too. But I just know it's all gonna be negative, and I have to make one last positive vibration on this subject. >Good special effects: bad history. And didn't Cameron, after the moment >of silence, say, "Let's party till dawn?" A very thoughtful, sympathetic >man. Yip yip yip yip. . . . a cry to the living in the heart of sorrow. I would have been partying right there with him. That's the job of the living. Drink ye and be merry, for tomorrow you may look like Shane McGowan, - --Quail Aaaaach! No, I just can't go! I'm like Al Pacino in "Godfather III," I just get pulled back in! Here: PS: I realize that I said I'd *refuse* to defend Titanic any more, but I've been a huge Cameron fan since I snuck in to see the first Terminator movie five times, and it was so good to see him get some recognition. Like they should have given Lucas and Spielberg *long* ago. . . . PPS: So what if he used fictional characters? Better that than what most filmmakers do with real characters. I mean, I loved Schindler's List and Michael Collins and Willy Wonka, but let's face it, there were some serious liberties taken all around. . . .and I am GLAD the Academy awarded a balls to the wall EPIC movie another award. Yaaaah epics! Bring back Spartcus! Rewind Braveheart! Bring back four hour long movies with lots of actors and really breathtaking scenes that make me go "Yikes!" Bring me back some of that childhood wonder I saw when I first laid eyes on Star Wars! I want to be wowed, amazed, appalled, and delighted. I want to see lovers and heroes, villains and madmen. PPPS: Is this the time to mention that my other favorite movies of the year were "Crash", "Jackie Brown," and "Kundun?" I wish I could just make up my mind about what I like for fifteen minutes. Typical quail. It's all fun and games until someone pecks an eye out. . . . must end this thread . . . . Eb, hand me a scissors. . . . PPPPS: My real Oscar gripe is with Horner. When oh when will Hollywood realize that Glass, Elfman, Nyman, and Goldenthal can compose circles around Horner and Zimmer? PPPPPS: Before that scissors gets here, while I am still on the topic of movies, if Hollywoord mangles my beloved "Wings of Desire" I shall surely die. Please, God, let them ignore my above "epic rant" for just one movie. . . I mean, I love Nick Cage, but Wenders-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:45:50 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: knox harrington, the video artist the female robyn hitchcock? possibly denise sharp, although probably an even better fit would be joan jett (of joan jett and the blackhearts fame.) think about it. she has: a.) been a member of a pyschaedelic ROCK 'N' ROLL outfit. (you'll recall their knockout cover of Crimson and Clover which shot straight to the top of the pops.) b.) split from said pyschaedelic ROCK 'N' ROLL outfit and released a saxophone-drenched masterpiece which to this day is reviled by her "fans." c.) covered Chain Mary To The Bed live. d.) toured with billy bragg. ...what more do you need to know? you're excepting, of course, those delightful disney numbers that are the life of *any* party. mark, i can't believe you didn't put an asterisk in front of St. Petersburg, the absolute *highlight* of GLASS FLESH. or, wait...are you another one of these DECAY-hating heathens that won't even listen to a *cover* of a DECAY song on principle? ok, i'd never really had any use for all these "quailspiracy" theories until today. when susan even, glen uber, and daniel saunders all post in the same day, that's a pretty dead giveaway, i should think, that something is amiss. we could mention also the recent return of the guambat. if i hear, within the next day or two, that side a of the spoken chain tape is complete, i'm heading straight for the fallout shelter. eb, let us know, won't you, how the ZAIREEKA! experience goes? i still haven't been able to find it used. "Hey Walter, if you can't drive, how do you get around on Shamas?" --Donny who loved bowling (and yes, i'm *sure* he says, "shamas.") ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #113 *******************************