From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #109 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, March 23 1998 Volume 07 : Number 109 Today's Subjects: ----------------- mst3k/ art of love [dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich)] Re: SH/Chat Questions [Dave Librik ] time for a new thread [tanter ] Re: time for a new thread ["Wookie Conscious" ] Re: Mostly irrelevant, but what the hell (contains fashion advice, however) [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Eh? ["Chris, the missing years." ] Re: Eh? [sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain)] Re: Mostly irrelevant, but what the hell (contains fashion advice, however) [dlang ] Pat Collier [Terrence M Marks ] Re: Eh? [Miles Goosens ] Re: temper, temper... [M R Godwin ] Re: Eh? [M R Godwin ] D#, Eb, B Natural [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: mst3k/ art of love [Bret ] Re: Pat Collier [M R Godwin ] rumours about harrison ford [seven@cs.utwente.nl (Susan Even)] Re: rumours about harrison ford [M R Godwin ] Fwd: Re: WRNR plug ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: temper, temper... [dmw ] Storefront Austin [firstcat@lsli.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 02:23:28 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (David W. Dudich) Subject: mst3k/ art of love On Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:06:12 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:57:40 -0600 >From: Miles Goosens >Subject: Re: enharmonics and such... > >At 09:39 AM 3/22/98 -0800, Mark Gloster wrote: >>For sake of moderation, in general conversation Eb is an enharmonic of >>D# (is pretty much equal to). In classical theory, be thankful Eb that >>Eb is considered sharper than D#. I suppose that is part of yet another >>subtle dig at Eb's enharmonic netpal. > >I think Eb's twin brother (sister?) may be Mr. B Natural, which should >produce an instant shudder among you MST3K fans... :-) uhhhh!!!!! (well, at least it wasn't "Santa claus vs. the devil!"!!!!!) :-) On a much darker subject, i was just listening to the "powerhaus 92" tape, with all the Soft Boys reunited (plus Pete Buck) fpr charity, and it struck me how many times he menitioned Cynthia. I am very suprised that, in the wake of the break-up, he did 'turn into Richard Thompson', so to speak...or did he? Are there shows from late 1993 that have dark love songs (RT-style) that he didn't see the need (thanks to the Dark Princess) to release? I would be curious to hear these... -luther ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:55:52 -0600 From: Dave Librik Subject: Re: SH/Chat Questions Eb wrote: >I didn't see the submitted questions "before the fact." I assumed they >would be more interesting than that. > >Well, like someone else said, he rarely gives sincere answers anyway. Just >hides behind that ironic snideness.... Very true. I think it's inherent in the medium, the "online chat." The man clearly doesn't like using computers or the Internet -- few musicians, I think, really feel comfortable with on-line communication in the way most of us here do: they don't have the time to spend hours on-line every day chatting and emailing until it seems natural. So these strange little questions form on the computer screen in front of him, and Robyn H. pokes at the keys until the question's been adequately answered. In a real interview or Q-and-A session, the interviewer poses the question and then leaves a gap of enough silence to get the musician babbling. Talking is easy, once you get started; typing is tough, and the tendency is to get it over with quickly. The main problem with the questions was that they were fine face-to-face interview questions, but in an "online chat" situation they lent themselves too easily to a short answer/dismissal. (Of course, this was mostly clear after reading the transcript.) :) For instance, I think "Have you heard the Glass Flesh tribute album?" would have worked well in a real interview ... no interviewer would have let his subject get away with "yes" if he wanted to know more; he would have asked follow-up questions or just stayed quiet until the interviewee babbled on to fill up the space. (Have any of you ever done interviews with musicians? What sort of techniques do you use?) Maybe a good online-chat equivalent would have been "Have you heard the Glass Flesh tribute album? Did you like it? Do you think tribute albums are encouraging, or a bit like having a postmortem on a living body?" I don't know very well how to phrase good questions that will overcome a non-computer-user's resistance to using that Damn Device. I did find many of the questions interesting enough to merit further discussion, though. - - David Librik ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:48:58 -0500 From: tanter Subject: time for a new thread What's your favorite/favourite RH song to listen to while in the bath/shower? I have yet to listen to him there but it might be interesting to hear him alongside running water. Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:14:11 -0500 From: "Wookie Conscious" Subject: Re: time for a new thread > What's your favorite/favourite RH song to listen to while in the > bath/shower? I have yet to listen to him there but it might be interesting > to hear him alongside running water. > > Marcy "The Yip Song" I try to scrub along with the beat. Sometimes the result is just a painful injury. - --shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:19:16 -0800 From: Danielle Subject: untempered (and no, I'm not talking about music theory) Cantankerous again, after the last digest. Dammit. Bayard wrote: > dan yelled: Hmmm. No, in twenty-three years, I don't recall anyone ever making that startlingly original joke. Especially not all through school. > Like each of us, Eb has an unwritten obligation to do a brainscan before > posting (what's up with the USENET xposts?) to determine signal-to-noise. > Regardless of his vocation and whether or not we know what it is. The > fact that we DO know he knows a lot about music (he keeps reminding us, > after all ;) makes his an even higher calling, no? Ah yes, of course he has the 'brainscan' obligation, but that wasn't my point. I was railing against the remarks made (by someone I now can't recall, sorry), which said to Eb '*you're* the music biz type, you must know how to handle musicians better than us mere mortals', or some such. Now, since Eb's job was rather nastily 'leaked' to all of you back in late November, and since Eb never publicly alludes to the fact that he's a critic, I think making digs about him being a 'music biz type' are unfair. We knew Eb knew a lot about music before we knew what his job was. He drove us crazy before he was 'outed'. Isn't using that weapon against him rather nasty - and pathetic? After all, there's plenty of other stuff in his posts worth demolishing... ;) Eb, followed by Ben: > >Caveat emptor: I'm having a monumentally awful weekend, which shall > >undoubtedly continue to resonate in my life for many weeks and months to > >come. This is a baad time to start an argument with me. > After Bayard's recent post, I am unable to read anything from Eb without > hearing it in the high-pitched whine of Andy Rooney. Ouch! Ben, I'll be sure to come to you the next time I have any problems. Such compassion and sensitivity. It warms my heart, truly. Danielle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:51:45 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: SH/Chat Questions Dave wrote: >In a real interview or Q-and-A session, the interviewer poses the question >and then leaves a gap of enough silence to get the musician babbling. >Talking is easy, once you get started; typing is tough, and the tendency >is to get it over with quickly. I think the inability to follow up or rephrase a question is another main problem. To illustrate, I recently asked a musician (I'm not going to namedrop) what unexpected interests he might have as a music fan himself. He was a very difficult interview, and kinda flattened me back with "Well, I can't answer that. I don't know what people would expect." Period. OK, fair enough. So I paused, and then asked, "Well, what about pre-'80s music?" And *then* he answered the question, and thought out an intriguing list which included Woody Guthrie, John Lee Hooker, Lesley Gore, Pretty Things, Lightnin' Hopkins, Gene Vincent and Nancy Sinatra. Score! So you see what I mean.... I grit my teeth over giving an indulgent personal anecdote, but it seemed warranted this time. Signal-to-Eb np: "In the Company of Men" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:53:52 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Mostly irrelevant, but what the hell (contains fashion advice, however) On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Danielle wrote: > Danielle > NP An old Goon Show. Tee hee. :) aaaaaaaaao.... i've just been watching the New Order videos, and come across Jonathan Demme's video for "the perfect kiss". if you haven't seen it, it's entirely composed of the band in a studio, playing the song. much of the song is programmed / sequenced, this being New Order, but the recording that goes with it is audibly different from the record -- i think they must have been actually performing, rather than miming. but nor are they "rocking out" or anything like that; bernard is curiously inert when not singing, gillian patiently stands by the keyboard and presses a few keys, turns a knob... anyhow, it's a great video, all 9 minutes of it. but it seems like making a feature-length film of robyn playing in a window is very much the same idea, but without the quirks of New Order's half human-half machine personality to make it interesting. i'll watch it if i get the chance -- it's a well-miked concert and i'm sure i'll like the stories etc. i just can't imagine anyone who isn't already a fan going to see it if they hear a description beforehand. aaron ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:21:16 -0500 From: nicastr@idt.net (Ben) Subject: Re: untempered (and no, I'm not talking about music theory) Eb, followed by Ben followed by Danielle: >> >Caveat emptor: I'm having a monumentally awful weekend, which shall >> >undoubtedly continue to resonate in my life for many weeks and months to >> >come. This is a baad time to start an argument with me. > >> After Bayard's recent post, I am unable to read anything from Eb without >> hearing it in the high-pitched whine of Andy Rooney. Ouch! > >Ben, I'll be sure to come to you the next time I have any problems. Such >compassion and sensitivity. It warms my heart, truly. > >Danielle Is this meant to be sarcastic? I can't tell anymore... 2 and 1/2 stars? Grrrr.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:49:55 +0400 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: fegparty Oh Great Quail! That party... it's on the *wrong* East Coast!!! James (staring out the window at the Pacific...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:16:14 +0400 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Eh? > Well, couldn't you also say that A doesn't necessarily equal A? I mean, >the tuning standard is A-440, but some people prefer to tune to A-439 or A-441 >(or so I've been told). Of course, I *do* like theories! So, yes, please, >Terrence, let us in on the basic tenets of this tuning theory. Thanks! my guess is that the A-439 goes to Leatherhead, but the A-441 goes to Swindon. Actually, come to think of it, they must be somewhere in the Oxford area. Any Britfegs care to confirm where ther are? Settle down lads (& lasses). We've been known to argue about some strange things on this list before, but music theory? Biz'r'fegs! And bickering about questions asked in an on-line chat? And you wonder why Robyn doesn't talk to us often! Just be thankful that we have Eb rather than D# here (if you want D# just tune him down one or two hertz). Calm down, or I'll have to send you a peculiar post about flags. >Or chocolate from cocoa, or Wordsworth from Coleridge, or Arnold from >Hardy Laurel and Arnold just don't sound right. >Or Stork from butter. ah, a childhood memory! >ObRobyn: I had a dream a few weeks ago where I had just woken up and my >wife asked me "have you graded those exams yet? Aren't they due today?" I >suddenly remembered that I was teaching a course in Fegmania, and that I >had forgotten to grade the class' final exams, and I had promised to give >back the exams in two hours! Sure enough, I looked in my bookbag, and >there were blue exam books from many of you -- Mark Gloster, Bayard, Woj, >Eb, James Dignan, Quail, Susan. I began imagining the disappointed looks >on your faces if I had to tell you that your exams weren't ready yet. So I >opened up Quail's exam, went straight to the "name your five least-favorite >Hitchcock songs and explain their faults in detail" question (saving the >"creative Fegfiction essay" for later), and went to work... hmmm. "imagining thedisappointed looks..." so what did we look like, those of us you ain't met? James (tryin' to tell the difference between good and crimes, dirt and treasure...) np - Lament for the numb (yeah, okay, there's some good stuff on there, okay?) up next - anything but "jezebel" by Jon Stevens ;) James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:14:57 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Eh? 1) On a coincidental note, Spontaneous Apple Creation from The Crazy World of Arthur Brown contains the line "And 10 million people told butter from stork". Apart from that line, the album is pretty bad. 2) I think "Jewels for Sophia" would make a decent single. np-"All of Your Toys" by The Monkees (would've been a decent single, too, had they released it) Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:24:25 -0800 (PST) From: "Chris, the missing years." Subject: Re: Eh? > > Calm down, or I'll have to send you a peculiar post about flags. > Aye! Those were the days. ;) .chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:55:05 -0600 From: sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain) Subject: Re: Eh? >my guess is that the A-439 goes to Leatherhead, but the A-441 goes to >Swindon. Actually, come to think of it, they must be somewhere in the >Oxford area. Any Britfegs care to confirm where ther are? No, but I once heard a very imaginative sax player expounding on what keys the streets in my neighborhood were in. Apparently 53rd street is definitely in A-flat. No word on the specific number though. >talk to us often! Just be thankful that we have Eb rather than D# here (if >you want D# just tune him down one or two hertz). Trust me, the last thing this madhouse needs is D#. >hmmm. "imagining thedisappointed looks..." so what did we look like, those >of us you ain't met? >James (tryin' to tell the difference between good and crimes, dirt and >treasure...) Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my face :). Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:57:16 +2910 From: dlang Subject: Re: Mostly irrelevant, but what the hell (contains fashion advice, however) Dani sed: is there a 'girlie' feg outfit, for those of us with slightly more traditional tastes? ;) Ha, you dare to ask for a "girlie feg outfit"!, Friends of Feg attire is at the moment unisexual, (apart from the "Fit of pique " crotch accessory for those of us men who need a truss, but who want to look more macho than a mere elasticised undergarment will permit.).Remember the attire you objected to is meant to be worn during secret FOF coven meetings whilst we indulge in our holy mind meld sessions and is NOT to be worn as you bump into objects in the turgid blacked out streets of your great metropolis. But fear not , there will soon be a complete range of Friends of Feg merchandise ,with a natty outfit for every occasion, as well as all other possible Feg accoutrements , mugs,T shirts, posters, condoms, etc as well as an Autumn collection from the House of Feg, for all you fashion plates out there who need to be told what to wear. Dave " Laurant" Lang.. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:55:09 +2910 From: dlang Subject: Re: fegparty James wept: Oh Great Quail! That party... it's on the *wrong* East Coast!!! This is bloody true .Quail, how dare you,this only confirms my suspicions that just because we are 10.000K 's away from you bastards you are up to treating us like the second class fegizens that we are. I think you all should have a good whip around and club together to get usantipodean fegs out to the shindig .If you ingrates can't manage that, perhaps if we could work out the time differential we could get in touch with you buggers online during the party , that is if any of you are capable of operating a computer after partying with the Quail,( god knows what hideous and mindwarping chemicals he plans to slip into your "coffee and beer" as he so mildly puts it. Remember , he is a deadhead, they are capable of anything and I should know, as I'm one too!).BTW Quail, if Bayard, Eb and Ben all attend together I imagine you will be dialling 911 pretty early on or calling in the SWAT teams to clear the premises pronto, make plans for this eventuality NOW!. Actually we had a similar sort of gathering here in Adelaide last weekend, a whole housefull of Deadheads!(I feel you shudder at the thought), but wait, it WAS FUN, we had a mammoth jam session, everyone got off their faces on good beer and I think I may be able to convert most of them into fegs as they have that certain glint in their eyes and sound very interested in young Robyn, I have four of them convinced already.........if so, we may have our own party over here to coincide with you lot on the east coast, so yah boo to you all.. More on this later ( as if you cared, you heartless swine!).I'm going to my room to sulk....wait, i *am in my room*, oh shit , I think I'll go lie down for awhile...... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:38:30 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Pat Collier Has Pat Collier produced anything besides Underwater Moonlight? (My copy isn't handy, so if Pat Collier wasn't the producer, then assume that "Pat Collier" is just a misspelling of the real producer's name) Figure that what with Robyn's bad luck with producers, they ought to try another album together. And does anyone know what James A. "The Great One" Smith is doing now? Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:40:49 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Eh? At 01:55 AM 3/23/98 -0600, amadain wrote: >>hmmm. "imagining thedisappointed looks..." so what did we look like, those >>of us you ain't met? >>James (tryin' to tell the difference between good and crimes, dirt and >>treasure...) > >Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my face :). Actually, I've met Susan, Andy Snyder, Gary Parker, and doug mayo-wells, and I've seen photographic evidence of others (Quail, Woj). But it was one of those dream things where you know stuff that you shouldn't. what's puzzling you is the nature of my game, Miles ====================================================================== "If a million people say a stupid thing, it is still a stupid thing." -- Anatole France Miles Goosens outdoorminer@mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~outdoorminer/miles ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:21:04 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: temper, temper... On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, dmw wrote: > ...but for practical purposes, certainly on any "C" instrument like guitar > or piano, D# and Eb are indeed played the same way. Sorry, Doug, I can't agree. The problem is that the mathematical intervals of 1/3, 1/5, 1/7 etc are FIXED, but the scale is (?)arbitrarily divided into 12 notes. These intervals don't quite coincide for every root note that you can select. This means that strictly speaking, every time you change key, you should _re-tune_ a guitar to make it sound as nice as possible in the key you are playing. I usually find that G is the most sensitive string in this respect. Because this is (or was) technically very difficult with a keyboard instrument, tempering was invented as a "near-enough" way of making it sound good in any key. But a decent concert pianist will re-tune the piano to the root note of the main item in a recital. > like y'all really care. but anyway. I do, I do! But does anyone else? - - Mike Godwin PS The new BOC album is due out tomorrow! First one in 14 years... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:30:29 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Eh? On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Terrence M Marks wrote: > 1) On a coincidental note, Spontaneous Apple Creation from The Crazy World > of Arthur Brown contains the line "And 10 million people told butter from > stork". Apart from that line, the album is pretty bad. You really had to see the CWOAB on stage, wearing an insect mask and cloak, or doing the 'Fire' number in a flaming headdress, with Vincent Crane gurgling "You're gonna burn, Brown, ho ho ho" while Arthur Brown did this wild demon dancing. Not to mention the strobe lights. Magic! It doesn't really come over on record... - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:32:02 -0500 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: D#, Eb, B Natural D# writes, >> Bloodied hands means they helped him in his game to hurt me. >> Jeff Downs cowrote an ELP song with Greg. That is the song that >> describes mine and Carls relationship. Its a romantic love song, >> but it was all done to hurt me at the end of it all. So that I >> would never be able to tell Carls secret that he's gay. [etc., etc.] Eb, this is beautiful. Makes me wish I still had a copy of DSM-IV close to hand - there is a name for this type of delusion but I can't remember what it is... >I think Eb's twin brother (sister?) may be Mr. B Natural, which should >produce an instant shudder among you MST3K fans... :-) Ahh! I just had this horrible image of Eb prancing around in baby-blue tights, squealing about "the spirit of music." Don't do that to me on a Monday morning! n. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:34:55 -0600 (CST) From: Bret Subject: Re: mst3k/ art of love At 02:23 AM 3/23/98 GMT, you wrote: >On Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:06:12 -0500 (EST), you wrote: > >>Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:57:40 -0600 >>From: Miles Goosens >>Subject: Re: enharmonics and such... >> >>At 09:39 AM 3/22/98 -0800, Mark Gloster wrote: >>>For sake of moderation, in general conversation Eb is an enharmonic of >>>D# (is pretty much equal to). In classical theory, be thankful Eb that >>>Eb is considered sharper than D#. I suppose that is part of yet another >>>subtle dig at Eb's enharmonic netpal. >> >>I think Eb's twin brother (sister?) may be Mr. B Natural, which should >>produce an instant shudder among you MST3K fans... :-) > > uhhhh!!!!! > > (well, at least it wasn't "Santa claus vs. the devil!"!!!!!) or, MITCHEL! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:28:20 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Pat Collier On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Terrence M Marks wrote: > Has Pat Collier produced anything besides Underwater Moonlight? > Figure that what with Robyn's bad luck with producers, they ought to > try another album together. I agree totally. The Mojo piece on UM gives the following info about Collier: He was the bass player of punk band The Vibrators at the time of UM He trained as an engineer at Decca. He "knew how to make £700 go a long way at the 4-track Alaska and 8-track James Morgan studios ... through Collier's judicious use of limited tracks and subtle reverb, the overall sonic impact is worthy of an album made for ten times the money". 700 quid is now about 1000 dollars, but was probably worth less than that in 1980 as the pound was sinking like a stone at the time. I think that you will find Pat Collier's name on numerous other RH recordings, especially on cheapo tracks done at Alaska. - - Mike Godwin PS I saw the Vibrators once, professional, melodic punk band totally lacking in real punk spirit - Collier must have been too musical to be a punk rocker. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:54:43 +0100 (MET) From: seven@cs.utwente.nl (Susan Even) Subject: rumours about harrison ford Hello Listmembers, I've heard a rumour that in the song Driving Aloud, the line that goes: "I've got a Harrison Ford poster rolled up in my desk. . ." was originally about the musician Eric Clapton. . . And, I've heard another rumour that due to the success of the recent film Titanic, there's been talk by the producers of making a sequel, Titanic II. . . (with even more special effects, and more music. . .) Who knows, it might even be a trilogy. And, I've heard yet another rumour that the singer of Neutral Milk Hotel has got a voice like a kazoo. . . Groetjes uit Enschede, Susan p.s. Mike, your Dutch isn't that bad! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:09:38 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: rumours about harrison ford On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Susan Even wrote: > And, I've heard another rumour that due to the success of > the recent film Titanic, there's been talk by the producers > of making a sequel, Titanic II. . . (with even more special > effects, and more music. . .) Who knows, it might even > be a trilogy. Impresario Lew Grade lost a lot of money on a film called "Raise the Titanic" and commented "It would have been cheaper to lower the Atlantic" Cheers - - Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:22:01 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Fwd: Re: WRNR plug Eric Loehr said: >Those of you with sound-equipped computers may also want to surf on over >to their web page at http://www.wrnr.com/ where you can listen to WRNR >(direct realaudio URL is: http://www.wrnr.com/wrnr.ram) live. > >Eric (not connected with WRNR or realaudio, just a satisfied web listener >who thinks it's cool that you can live in Massachusetts and listen to a >Maryland radio station!) I listen to WRNR quite a bit. I even did a promo for them, ever heard it? ("Hey, this is Gene from Glen Burnie! And whenever I'm in the car, I have it tuned to WRNR...). Anyway, WRNR did not program Moss Elixir. I was told this by a Robyn-friendly DJ when I requested "Beautiful Queen" once. I have heard them play Robyn more than a few times, however, which keeps me tuned in. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:57:05 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: temper, temper... On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, M R Godwin wrote: > On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, dmw wrote: > > or piano, D# and Eb are indeed played the same way. > > Because this is (or was) technically very difficult with a keyboard > instrument, tempering was invented as a "near-enough" way of making it > sound good in any key. But a decent concert pianist will re-tune the piano > to the root note of the main item in a recital. hmm...i lived with a concert pianist for about 7 years...when we tuned the piano, we used a tempered scale, although it was adjusted for the way that people hear notes -- the highest notes, in particular, needed to be substantially sharper than is mathematically correct in order to "sound" right. perhaps this is a cultural difference across the big pond? i'm afraid it's hard for me to imagine guitar players (except maybe zappa) being so precise. seems like in any given 3 songs yer liable to whack the strings more out of tune than the couple cents difference from notes built on varying roots. as far as i know, all the little electronic tuners (crutch of rockers everywhere) use a440 as the root for a well-tempered scale (although the good ones do let you tune to something several cents off, i'll admit). > PS The new BOC album is due out tomorrow! First one in 14 years... you don't count _imaginos,_ let alone _cult classics_?? ;) but yes, i'm very psyched. - -- d. - - oh,no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmayowel@access.digex.net - - and dmw@mwmw.com ... get yr pathos at http://www.pathetic-caverns.com/ - - new reviews! tunes, books, flicks, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 98 10:02:31 From: firstcat@lsli.com Subject: Storefront Austin OK, since noone else seems to have got to their computers yet, I start the ball rolling... ...a menacing crowd of fegs gathered in front of the Paramount Theatre about six to stake a claim to the movie...several photos were taken of the group.... ...we watched the ceremonial changing of the movie posters...pictures were taken.. the best one I think is of RH infront of the multicolored panels.... ....the SXSW people refused to let us in early, so we mulled about talking to various RH fans that began to gather....finally we got in and sat right behind the celeb seating...we conned the hostess into showing us the list...Kegan and Deni were on it - rest were celeb-wannbe-pods.... ...Demmi read a speech written by his daughter then RH came out...his introduction was halarious...I think he should bail on the "folk" music and just do a spoken-word-rant tour... ...the film is a basic Demmi show film...the visual language is very close to Swimming to CAmbodia....it does not have the rising enrgy of the Heads film, and no gratutitous Jodie Foster...he does have a couple of Bergman "this is film" references where the lettering on the film runs between songs, and the final song "No I dont Remember..." has the tracking timer running...it by far the best visual clip in the film with four panels of different angles giving way to credits.... ...the songs are basic ME Robyn...excellent renditions, but basically what we've heard on the shared boots or already seen.... ...the word bits are funny, and have more energy than the songs and really move the film along.... I can see why Demmi is having a problem getting the film distributed, there is not really anything for a non-RH fan apart from the window watchers - two of which are blatant set-ups (the guy with the poster is the producer and Kegan walks up with his guitar case and looks in)....its like what songs do you give to a non-RH fan to convert them - is it heavy on the new stuff? after the show we pretty much split up for a little while... ...I caught the tale end of Deni's show..."the music industry's equivilant of the Olsen twins"...as I heard it put...but I got paged and ended up driving across town looking for a bunch of drunk lost Brits and missed the RH show...instead got stuck watching Jason and the Scorchers..... cheers Jay ... - ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall Channel Sales Director Livermore Software Laboratories, Intl. 2825 Wilcrest, Suite 160 Houston, Texas 77042-3358 1-713-974-3274 jay@lsli.com Date: 3/23/98 - ------------------------------------- Two-Hour Luxury Goods Commercial Also A Spy Film ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #109 *******************************