From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #105 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, March 20 1998 Volume 07 : Number 105 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Fwd: Re: Dancing on God's Thumb [Christopher Donnell ] Re: Dancing on God's Thumb [MARKEEFE ] Seth [Jon Kanis ] Re: two old perverts [MARKEEFE ] Re: Seth [hal brandt ] Hey, it's a mystic trip [sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain)] Re: Seth [John Barrington Jones ] Re: "strong men also cry...strong men also cry." [sdodge@midway.uchicago.] Re: two perverts [Bayard ] Re: two perverts [Tom Clark ] ATN article on SXSW & Robyn ["Runion-1, Michael" ] squid line [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: squid line [Capuchin ] Re: "strong men also cry...strong men also cry." [KarmaFuzzz ] The Toast Report [Jim Moore ] Re: The Toast Report [Ross Overbury ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:19:18 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Donnell Subject: Fwd: Re: Dancing on God's Thumb > > I always heard the ending as: > > "It's something disco" i disagree.. > > how 'bout "it's a big disco"...sounds that way to me. > > i disagree.. > it's a MEAN disco. i'm 97.8364% certain of it. I concur. == - - Christopher Donnell _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:57:47 EST From: MARKEEFE Subject: Re: Dancing on God's Thumb In a message dated 98-03-19 12:27:12 EST, you write: << > it's a MEAN disco. i'm 97.8364% certain of it. I concur >> Just listened to that end part a couple of times and I, too, concur. - -----Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:17:29 -0800 (PST) From: Jon Kanis Subject: Seth Fellow fegs: As I was jogging this morning it occured to me that to those of you on the list that are interested in how Robyn developed some of his "peculiar" cosmology you might be interested in reading Jane Robert's book *Seth Speaks*. This book is bound to offer some degree of insight into the man who wrote the following lines: "Decision making apparatus can't survive your death Good morning Mrs. Seagrove have you met my dead friend Seth. No sir, I haven't had that pleasure yet..." Just a thought. Also, is anyone on list familiar with The Hundreth Monkey Theory? This is NOT a recording group btw. Email me privately if you wish. Cheers, jon _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:22:54 EST From: MARKEEFE Subject: Re: two old perverts In a message dated 98-03-19 11:11:33 EST, you write: << > bringing more influence to bear on the clapton-hitchcock > imbalance in the media...). >> Well, if most of the press that Clapton's getting from his new album is anything like the review of "Pilgrim" I read in our local paper (the Oregonian), then Robyn's better off (boy-howdy did they harsh on that new EC!). - ------Michael K., who just can't wait to hear how great "Storefront" is, cuz there's nothing better than waiting around 6 or 7 months for something that your peers are enjoying today. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:12:08 -0700 From: hal brandt Subject: Re: Seth Jon Kanis wrote: > to those of you on the list that are interested in > how Robyn developed some of his "peculiar" cosmology > you might be interested in reading Jane Robert's book > *Seth Speaks*. This book is bound to offer some > degree of insight into the man who wrote the > following lines: > > "Decision making apparatus can't survive your death > Good morning Mrs. Seagrove have you met my dead > friend Seth." > > Just a thought. I agree that this, indeed, may be the inspiration for this verse. About 10 years ago, my friend Tom was very into Jane Roberts and even had a video of her channeling "Seth" that he force-fed me. I had to bite my lip to stop from laughing out loud at Jane/Seth's antics. I wonder what ol' Tom is up to these days. I hope he's graduated from taking midnight strolls in graveyards and listening to his Throbbing Gristle and Current 93 albums. He and I always fought over Robyn. I said "genius" and he said "eccentric no-talent". Maybe we should ask Robyn about this "Seth" connection during the AOL chat. /hal ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:26:53 -0600 From: sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain) Subject: Hey, it's a mystic trip >you might be interested in reading Jane Robert's book >*Seth Speaks*. This book is bound to offer some >degree of insight into the man who wrote the >following lines: > >"Decision making apparatus can't survive your death >Good morning Mrs. Seagrove have you met my dead >friend Seth. You know, I have read that but I didn't make the connection. Given Robyn's fascination with things Egyptian, I assumed it was referring to -that- Seth. Of course it could quite well be referring to both. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:29:12 -0800 From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: Seth >I agree that this, indeed, may be the inspiration for >this verse. About 10 years ago, my friend Tom was very >into Jane Roberts and even had a video of her channeling >"Seth" that he force-fed me. I had to bite my lip to stop >from laughing out loud at Jane/Seth's antics. As much as I hate comparmentalizing things into decades, I see "seth speaks" very much as a 70's thang. I read it when I was in 6th or 7th grade, and can't for the life of me remember how I heard about it, or why i read it, other than the fact that i was a kid, learning about the world, trying to make sense of it, wanting to believe that weird wild stuff truly does exist. - -john ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:28:34 -0600 From: sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain) Subject: Re: "strong men also cry...strong men also cry." >Run, don't walk, to the second-run movie house in your town that's playing >Zero Effect with Bill Pullman and Ben Stiller. I can't say too many good >things about this movie. It's wonderfully written (super SMART... can't >get enough of that. And sheesh! funny!), astonishingly acted (well, >there's Ryan O'Neal, but Stiller and Pullman and Featherstone make up for >that), and filled with inspired camera work. OK, so the editting was a >bit wonky (some obviously chopped dialogue), but I'm sure most folks >wouldn't even come close to noticing. Second this. I -loved- this movie. It was delightful and brilliant, especially considering it was the writer/director's first effort. The main thing that stood out to me was the writing (in particular I remember Zero's monologue about how to "find things" :)), but Pullman and Stiller also gave wonderfully well-timed and ingratiating performances, and obviously were having a ball throughout. Anyone who ever liked Sherlock Holmes or film noir mysteries will also get a huge kick out of the deadpan references to both throughout. Mostly what struck me about it was that it was very -earnest-. No, I don't mean that it was a "message" movie or anything at all like that, I mean that it was "earnest" in the sense that it seemed like everyone involved really was enjoying what they were doing, that there was a lot of effort to really make something good, that the script wasn't the result of extensive "consumer marketing tests" but one that somebody really wanted to write. In short, it completely lacked the feel of being "product", and that's always exhilirating to me as a viewer. >entertainment's changed over the years and stuff. It was really cool and >fun... and if you've SEEN Zero Effect, email me and I'll tell you what >Ben told us was the working title of his film. Surely you mean -this- film, not -his- film. It was written and directed by a fellow named Jake Kasdan. Ben Stiller has written and/or directed a few films (and I've liked them all, especially "The Cable Guy") but this wasn't one of them- I think he just probably got the script and really liked it and wanted to do it. If I were an actor I'd jump on a script like that, you know, one with actual characters where the actors actually get some good stuff to say. Judging by what I see coming out of Hollywood on a regular basis I think they must be turning out scripts by computer program these days. It must be really cool when you get a script that doesn't read like that. I have a feeling that this is also one of the reasons Harvey Keitel jumped on "Reservoir Dogs" and even put his own money on the line- because it was really exciting to see such a good script with so much sharp dialogue that the right actors could really have a field day with. >Oh, one other thing about watching a movie filmed in your town, the >locations truly mess with your head. You can't drive north on Powell as >the script says. They drive past the same building four times in one Yeah! I've noticed this a lot since there seem to have been a lot of Chicago movies in the past 5 years or so. Apparently everyone in Chicago lives and works on one street, Michigan Avenue. People also are constantly walking to places that they couldn't conceivably walk to (there's a scene in the atrocious "While You Were Sleeping" that features a magic sort of walk from the large bridge over the Chicago River downtown to what appear to be North Side apartment buildings, which in real life would be a really long walk that would involve walking along major highways) and driving to and through places they couldn't conceivably. "When Harry Met Sally" features an opening scene set at the University of Chicago where they are loading a car in a place that a) no dorms or other student dwellings are conveniently close to (it'd be quite a ways to be dragging your suitcases) and b) you would get a hugemongously expensive ticket if you actually tried to park there for any length of time. And so on, and so on. I've learned to mostly ignore it but it annoys me, too. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:19:31 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: two perverts Anyone else find it amusing, given the title, that this thread is now talking solely about robyn and clapton? there's more than one funny story about those two, btw... one involving robyn being made to wait for a long time in a small room in a Tower Records while the staff did clapton-related stuff.. while waiting, RH improved some Clapton posters with doodles and etc. For a while after the store did not stock any RH-related albums... How I would love to have one of those Posters! "Do you talk about Eric Clapton?" -RH on the feglist =b ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 98 15:48:49 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: two perverts On 3/19/98 3:19 PM, Bayard wrote: >Anyone else find it amusing, given the title, that this thread is now >talking solely about robyn and clapton? there's more than one funny story >about those two, btw... one involving robyn being made to wait for a long >time in a small room in a Tower Records while the staff did >clapton-related stuff.. while waiting, RH improved some Clapton posters >with doodles and etc. For a while after the store did not stock any >RH-related albums... How I would love to have one of those Posters! > >"Do you talk about Eric Clapton?" -RH on the feglist And what about this: "Clapton Is God" - London graffiti, circa 1968 "God Walks Among Us" - Creem Magazine RE: Hitchcock, circa 1986 kinda makes you wonder... - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:30:56 -0500 From: "Runion-1, Michael" Subject: ATN article on SXSW & Robyn For those of you that haven't read this yet, check out the article on SXSW (with some Robyn content) at: http://www.addict.com/MNOTW/lofi/ "Who knows? Maybe that Hitchcock guy will even get noticed." Mike Runion EG&G S&MA Data & Analyses; ADoCS Office 867-3619 BOC-251 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:53:00 +0800 From: "Baker, David(KWI-C09)" Subject: RE: two old perverts >The one thing it does note is that the current Rykodisc CD version >of the album has a different version of "Old Pervert" to the >original LP. I compared the two versions last night, and they're >right! The LP has a great Kimberley guitar solo which is lacking >on the Ryko version - the LP solo comes in after Robyn tells >Kimberley to "Skin it Back", a line that's also missing >from the Ryko take - which, to my ears, is more percussive, >and less, well, perverted in the vocal. Would this be the "Old >Pervert (disco)" track ? Finally Andy's liner notes on my Rykodisc CD make sense! Alcoa of Australia Ltd ACN 004 879 298 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:29:03 +1200 (NZST) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: squid line >Victorian parks 15 Victorian parts. James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:47:07 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: squid line On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, James Dignan wrote: > >Victorian parks 15 > Victorian parts. This should read Victorian parks/paths 15 It's a double-tracked vocal. And the word "fur" was left out of a later line... it's fixed. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 02:31:20 EST From: KarmaFuzzz Subject: Re: "strong men also cry...strong men also cry." capuchin@teleport.com writes: > Oh, one other thing about watching a movie filmed in your town, the > locations truly mess with your head. You can't drive north on Powell as > the script says. They drive past the same building four times in one > conversation... on different sides of the car! You get a clear shot of > the tire shop near where Karen and Carole work, but the place supposedly > across the street is maybe four blocks away. But that's not as bad as > half the weird stuff in My Own Private Idaho. well, that's pretty much true no matter what. i mean, there has never been a chase scene set in san francisco that doesn't jump across town at least seven or eight times. i swear in Basic Instinct they were in Berkeley for a couple of blocks. some SF based writer wrote a book on SF movie discrepancies[sp?] a few years back, but i remember nothing else of it. i guess filmmakers, even good ones, assume that since most people haven't been to most cities it's more important for things to "look right" rather than be accurate. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 07:18:02 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: everything must go Late last night, my Eudora inbox crashed and burned -- even beyond the ability of Norton Utilities to repair it. Apparently the other mailboxes were unaffected, thank goodnesss... Anyway, if any of you have sent me private messages that I have not yet answered, they're gone. :-( Please resend anything you've sent me recently and I'll do my level best to reply promptly. Thanks! later, Miles ====================================================================== "If a million people say a stupid thing, it is still a stupid thing." -- Anatole France Miles Goosens outdoorminer@mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~outdoorminer/miles ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:49:00 -0600 From: Jim Moore Subject: The Toast Report If anyone caught Conan last night (the only talk show worth watching anymore), you'd have seen that one of the main topics was... TOAST! Someone Margolis from ER was on and she explained that she just loves.... TOAST! She likes it because it's: 1. Tasty 2. Economical 3. Makes the house smell like you've done some real cooking Her ideal present was a super-duper toaster! This Toast Report was brought to you by The Guambat Foundation for the Spending of Enormous Sums of Money. Black Snake Diamond Guambat, cardcarrying charter member of the "Mucky" faction ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 98 12:19:57 EST From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: The Toast Report La chauve-souris de Guam a dit: > > If anyone caught Conan last night (the only talk show worth > watching anymore), you'd have seen that one of the main > topics was... TOAST! Mais ou a disparu la Deesse des Rotis? - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #105 *******************************