From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #104 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, March 19 1998 Volume 07 : Number 104 Today's Subjects: ----------------- ate ate ate [Natalie Jacobs ] Re: I have returned [Gary Assassin ] Dancing on God's Thumb [Jim Moore ] fwd: Dancing on God's Thumb [Russ Reynolds ] Friday's AOL Chat ["Runion-1, Michael" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #103 [MHolden666 ] Neutral Milk Dates (Hitch=nada) [MARKEEFE ] where'd that van gogh? [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] "strong men also cry...strong men also cry." ["Capitalism Blows" ] guitar tab [wojs of mass destruction ] Re: Dancing on God's Thumb [KarmaFuzzz ] Re: guitar tab [Capuchin ] Re: "strong men also cry...strong men also cry." [Capuchin ] Re: two old perverts [Gary Assassin ] Re: two old perverts [M R Godwin ] two perverts [Russ Reynolds ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:58:30 -0500 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: ate ate ate >incarcerate a retrobate >go on a date >ameliorate the way you skate >pontificate her latest spate >out of the gate >a stalemate >carbonate your weakest trait >incorporate the new tax rate into the way you fornicate >exfoliate your skin's deadweight >buy some bait >unload the freight >amputate the cheese you grate >this is the Campbells; this is the Tates Dear lord, I think I just ruptured something from laughing. Thank you, I needed that. n., who will now have the theme from "Soap" going through her head all day ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:06:41 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Assassin Subject: Re: I have returned > Hey, what about those cases of Dutch Boy Cleanser I sent you? Or did you > think that was cleverly-packaged flour? They confiscated it at the front door. They thought it was cocaine. > Welcome back, Gary! You know why I like you? Because you have the word > "ass" in your name not once, but TWICE. Forwards and backwards, too! > l "just got renewed for a fifth season" j Whatever that means. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:13:00 -0600 From: Jim Moore Subject: Dancing on God's Thumb I always heard the ending as: "It's something disco" Black Snake Diamond Guambat ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 13:30:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: fwd: Dancing on God's Thumb ======== Original Message ======== I always heard the ending as: "It's something disco" Black Snake Diamond Guambat ======== Fwd by: Russ Reynolds ======== how 'bout "it's a big disco"...sounds that way to me. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:43:22 -0500 From: "Runion-1, Michael" Subject: Friday's AOL Chat My screen-name will be Paulsky869. I'm still compiling any feg questions, so get them in to me. I'll repost them all again here Thursday night or Friday morning. Mike Runion EG&G S&MA Data & Analyses; ADoCS Office 867-3619 BOC-251 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:11:47 EST From: MHolden666 Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #103 Re:Make Up Your Own---Capitalism Blows Hey thanks for the info, but unfortunately it was too late to get that copy of Beautiful Queen I've been looking for, for a while now. later, Marc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:07:00 EST From: MARKEEFE Subject: Neutral Milk Dates (Hitch=nada) For the NMH contingency on the list, I thought I'd post the tour dates just sent to me by Touch & Go (who distributes Merge). Fri 4/3: New Orleans, LA @ Mermaid Lounge Sat 4/4: Austin, TX @ Electric Lounge Sun 4/5: Oklahoma City, OK @ TBA Tue 4/7: Albuquerque, NM @ Launch Pad Wed 4/8: Tempe, AZ @ Stinkweeds Thu 4/9: Hollywood, CA @ The Smell Fri 4/10: LA, CA @ Spaceland Sat 4/11 & Sun 4/12: San Fran, CA @ Bottom of the Hill Tue 4/14: Seattle, WA @ Crocodile Cafe Wed 4/15: Portland, OR @ Satyricon (woo-hoo! any other PDX-NMH fans?) Sat 4/18: San Fran, CA @ Terrastock (which is apparantly sold out already) Tue 4/21: Denver, CO @ 15th St Tavern Thur 4/23: Lawrence, KS @ The Bottleneck Fri 4/24: Minneapolis, MN @ 400 Bar Sat 4/25: Chicago, IL @ Lounge Ax Mon 4/27: Chattanooga, TN @ Blue Angel Now don't come cryin' to me if any of thse dates and/or venues are wrong; I just post 'em as I see 'em. Happy NMH-inh to you all! - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:02:09 +1200 (NZST) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: where'd that van gogh? >PS Susan Even can tell us the correct pronunciation - it's something like >"Van hrrwffhh"... don't be silly. Van Goch is Welsh for "red van" - i.e., what everyone was travelling to Austin in. I suspect a secret code... James ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:02:10 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: "strong men also cry...strong men also cry." it was all over the largo shows, and *did* sound great. but i'd rather know will he ever bring back the andy and the morris into his live gigs? no shit? you named your kid after robyn? can anybody top that??? i've now seen The Big Lebowski four times, and it just gets better with every viewing. if anybody hasn't seen it, it's a MUST. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:02:36 From: Michael Hooker Subject: tape wanted hi, does anyone have a nice sounding recording of the 11-5-96 show in vancouver? it was on the CBC. i have a copy and the sound is so-so. i really enjoy that show. it seems to me that because robyn was playing to a crowd that wasnt there just for him( he split the bill with billy bragg) he put a little extra something into it. thanks, Mike Hooker ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:44:16 -0500 From: wojs of mass destruction Subject: guitar tab fegs, received the following comments and tab from a fegmania.org visitor. thought i'd throw them at the feet of the guitarists before i go doing something foolish like adding them to the site (being a non-guitarist and all that). please confirm/critique if you are capable and feel so inclined...thanks. woj >1.) in "sweet ghost of light" , the first chord should read "F"...not >"C" as it is currently. I > basicly just changed one letter. >2.) I added my own tab for "aquarium. >aquarium > >sorry, just chords, no big mapped out tab. >not sure this is exact, so if there's anyone out there >who actually knows how to play guitar (or figure >out lyrics for that matter), they're welcome to >correct me... > >d a f# >in the aquarium, > g a g d >you stroked a greasy rain, > bmin a g d >just, at the end of day, > bmin a g d >way down in monterey... > >(repeat for this next verse:) > >in the aquairium, >the fish went through the trees... >the planes went through the seas... >and you were still with me.... > >(then the chorus:) >c g d a gmin7th? >everything revolves around the sun... >you know i'm gonna miss you when i'm gone... >c g d a >everything revolves.... > >this breakdown section, as far as i can gather, is >a "XX4553" (G power chord) and a "X3200X" >(Dmin7th?) >that goes on with a muted / palmed kinda strum for this part: > >i never knew a thing about you.... >i never knew a thing about you..... >i headed in a dream twoards you.... >i wonder if i ever saw you... >but i never knew a thing about you.... > >she says she's gonna saw her head off... >she only does it for attention... >(like other people i could mention...) >she wasn't feeling good to start with... >you're not someone i want to part with... > >a d >all you need is love...but all you get is a friend. >VICTORIAN SQUID > >A E >vic-torian squid, > A >is a delight, > D >for all the family because >A C# (with the low "E" played, so it's "X66644") >it's greasy and hot, > D >when you had lots > A E >then you'll want mo-------ore..... > >there's old H.G. Wells, >lying in bed >with his new house keeper with >hot squid by their side >glowing with pride, >flushed with exhaustion.... > >(now this is mainly just a bass, but i play it as a G and F#, >sliding it back and forth...not sure wheather it's better to keep >the second and third string at the 5th fret when you slide twoards >the F# or not...i play it muted so it's not like it matters much...) > >just keep with that till the end. >the very end just repeats "E" over and over until: > >E >where she keeps her real secret >Eb >hid, >she's a >D A >victorian squid! >CAPTAIN DRY > >i hate tabbing, so i'm going to try and get around this one without >having to. deal with it. >the veses are mainly >XXX23O, XXX2OO, XXX2O3 XXX2OO repeated in half steps, >with occasional variations. >listening to the song, you'll see what i mean... >then the high end stuff goes to a >D (messing around with the high "e" as usual it would seem) >then >A E >i got some money, but i lost it in the spring, > D C A,C,A,D,C,G,A >a rich man is more venomous than acid > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 04:27:35 EST From: KarmaFuzzz Subject: Re: Dancing on God's Thumb In a message dated 98-03-18 16:47:20 EST, rreynold@ksjo.com writes: > ======== Original Message ======== > I always heard the ending as: > > "It's something disco" > > Black Snake Diamond Guambat > ======== Fwd by: Russ Reynolds ======== > how 'bout "it's a big disco"...sounds that way to me. > it's a MEAN disco. i'm 97.8364% certain of it. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 01:49:38 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: guitar tab On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, wojs of mass destruction wrote: > received the following comments and tab from a fegmania.org visitor. > thought i'd throw them at the feet of the guitarists before i go doing > something foolish like adding them to the site (being a non-guitarist and > all that). please confirm/critique if you are capable and feel so > inclined...thanks. OK, just for the sake of completeness, here's the lyrics we have for the three songs in this post. There are some glaring mistakes in the poster's interpretation of the first two. Hey, comments and corrections welcome. Aquarium In the aquarium You stroked a greasy ray Just at the end of day Way down in Monterey In the aquarium 5 The fish went through the trees The planes went through the seas And you were still in me Everything revolves around the sun You know I'm gonna miss you when I'm gone 10 Everything revolves I never knew a thing about you I never knew a thing about you I headed in a dream towards you I wonder if I ever saw you 15 But I never knew a thing about you She says she's gonna saw her head off She only does it for attention Like other people I could mention She wasn't feeling good to start with 20 You're not someone I want to part with All you need is love But all you get is afraid Everything revolves around the sun You know I'm gonna miss you when I'm gone 25 Everything revolves ============================ Victorian Squid Victorian squid is a delight For all the family because It's greasy and hot When you've had lots Then you'll want more 5 There's old H.G. Wells Lying in bed With his new housekeeper with Hot squid by their side Glowing with pride 10 Flushed with exhaustion Victorian lungs Victorian skin Victorian tongues Victorian sin Victorian parks 15 Victorian moans Victorians darkness Victorian squid down on the beach Is an embarrassment to Respectable girls 20 Walking with pearls And their fiances "Oh, Edward my love Is that a squid?" "Yes, I fear so, my pet 25 But, pray, leave it alone Let us go home And take some cocoa" Victorian arms Victorian legs 30 Victorian charms Victorian eggs Victorian boys Victorian girls Victorian darkness 35 Every night our Voices meet in Darkness Clicking feet on Hollow streets the 40 Fanlight falls a- Cross the city Onto me and Mistress Kitty Pray that someone 45 Breaches her be- Tween the walnut And the to Where she keeps her Real secret 50 Hid She's a Victorian squid ============================ Captian Dry Wave on board for Captain Dry His arms are full of emptiness and loss Get on board with Captain Dry He may be brittle, but he's sure got class I got some money but I lost it in the spring 5 A rich man is more venomous than acid I got some money but it wasn't worth a thing When the summer came I thawed out all my assets Heave on board with Captain Dry He points to you and then falls down the hole 10 Get on board with Captain Dry He's got a substitute for self-control Here comes John Dyer with his head is full of lambs His mother's somewhere, often she's in Worcester I know she's dying, but I haven't sold my pram 15 But everybody still believes in silence Get on board with Captain Dry The human classes always won the best Wave on board with Captain Dry The immigrants all love the captain best 20 Get on board with Captain Dry The mussel clams the eyebrow like the ceiling of a dentist With a mussel who insisted He'll be worn by someone else he doesn't know ================================ There you go. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:14:53 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: "strong men also cry...strong men also cry." eddie sed: > no shit? you named your kid after robyn? can anybody top that??? I would imagine most of the folks on this list might have considered it. I think it's a great name... and I'm all for unisex names. > i've now seen The Big Lebowski four times, and it just gets better with > every viewing. if anybody hasn't seen it, it's a MUST. Well, yeah, I'm agreeing here, of course... and yeah, the more viewings, the better it gets. And since this was a reply to a post about The Borrowers, I'm going to mention another movie that has no direct connection to Robyn that I've yet found. Run, don't walk, to the second-run movie house in your town that's playing Zero Effect with Bill Pullman and Ben Stiller. I can't say too many good things about this movie. It's wonderfully written (super SMART... can't get enough of that. And sheesh! funny!), astonishingly acted (well, there's Ryan O'Neal, but Stiller and Pullman and Featherstone make up for that), and filled with inspired camera work. OK, so the editting was a bit wonky (some obviously chopped dialogue), but I'm sure most folks wouldn't even come close to noticing. Also, the movie was filmed in Portland... a block or two from where I live in some parts and a block or two in other parts from where I was working at the time. When the shooting was going on, Ben & Jerry Stiller came to our offices and talked for a while about comedy and the way entertainment's changed over the years and stuff. It was really cool and fun... and if you've SEEN Zero Effect, email me and I'll tell you what Ben told us was the working title of his film. And even though I walked by several shooting locations and recognized the scenes when they were in the movie, I didn't once see myself in the background. Damn. Oh, one other thing about watching a movie filmed in your town, the locations truly mess with your head. You can't drive north on Powell as the script says. They drive past the same building four times in one conversation... on different sides of the car! You get a clear shot of the tire shop near where Karen and Carole work, but the place supposedly across the street is maybe four blocks away. But that's not as bad as half the weird stuff in My Own Private Idaho. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:32:32 -0500 From: tanter Subject: Re: "strong men also cry...strong men also cry." >Borrowers. I took Robyn to see it on Sunday and it was really good. >There's one scene that's possibly a bit scary but everyone turns out OK >at >the end of it. The computer work is great, the story is pretty good, >the >acting is great.> >no shit? you named your kid after robyn? can anybody top that??? Yes, to the great amusement of Mrs. H. who was tickled but couldn't quite fathom why anyone would name their child after her son. (I guess she has this "my son is quite well known but I'm not sure what he does" syndrome or something!! [yes, she knows what he does but I don't think she's really into his music!] ) My mother-in-law was at a party last week and she got talking to another woman there who happened to mention she had worked at a particular shop in Alresford. My mother-in-law said "not Mrs. Hitchcock's shop?" "Why yes, do you know it?" "I've never been there but my first grandson is named for her son." And they all had a good laugh--I think they think we're a bit wacky. The next time we're in England I'm going to take my Robyn to the shop and introduce him to Joyce--I want to see her expression! Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:35:42 +0000 From: Jonathan Turner Subject: two old perverts this month's (well, dated "april") Mojo has "Underwater Moonlight" as it's "forgotten classic" - a nice full page feature, kind of an expanded review with a few quotes from Robyn and Kimberley about the album and its recording - describing the Soft Boys as "The Barbershop Quartet of The Apocalypse." Robyn on Kimberley: "He played guitar like Hendrix on sulphuric acid... or Hendrix IN suplhuric acid." Kimberley on Robyn: "I trusted him. I knew he was good." The one thing it does note is that the current Rykodisc CD version of the album has a different version of "Old Pervert" to the original LP. I compared the two versions last night, and they're right! The LP has a great Kimberley guitar solo which is lacking on the Ryko version - the LP solo comes in after Robyn tells Kimberley to "Skin it Back", a line that's also missing from the Ryko take - which, to my ears, is more percussive, and less, well, perverted in the vocal. Would this be the "Old Pervert (disco)" track ? I think there's some other lyric differences too, just to complicate things for those of you doing the transcriptions. Anyone know why a different take was used - and which version was used on the Glass Fish release ? The article also says that "Storefront Hitchcock" is due in September with 'accompanying double CD" - I was expecting a single CD with a double vinyl version, but I guess we'll find out in due course. (mojo has about 87 pages on eric clapton in this issue, by the way. I really think that editor-in-chief mark ellen should be bringing more influence to bear on the clapton-hitchcock imbalance in the media...). Jonathan. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:48:44 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Assassin Subject: Re: two old perverts > (mojo has about 87 pages on eric clapton in this issue, by > the way. I really think that editor-in-chief mark ellen should be ^^^^^^^^^^ Maybe he wasn't really in... > bringing more influence to bear on the clapton-hitchcock > imbalance in the media...). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:20:41 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: two old perverts On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Jonathan Turner wrote: > The LP has a great Kimberley guitar solo which is lacking > on the Ryko version - the LP solo comes in after Robyn tells > Kimberley to "Skin it Back", a line that's also missing > from the Ryko take Hi Jonathan Just as a matter of interest, "Skin it back" is the title of a song by Little Feat. > (mojo has about 87 pages on eric clapton in this issue, by > the way. I saw him in the Cream in 1967 - he was the guitarist, I think. Is he still going, then? (-: - - Mike Godwin "This is nothing. I was making Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse and three of the horsemen died during shooting" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 98 08:55:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: two perverts Jonathan writes: >The one thing it does note is that the current Rykodisc CD version >of the album has a different version of "Old Pervert" to the >original LP. I compared the two versions last night, and they're >right! The LP has a great Kimberley guitar solo which is lacking >on the Ryko version - the LP solo comes in after Robyn tells >Kimberley to "Skin it Back", a line that's also missing >from the Ryko take - which, to my ears, is more percussive, >and less, well, perverted in the vocal. Would this be the "Old >Pervert (disco)" track ? >I think there's some other lyric differences too, just to complicate >things for those of you doing the transcriptions. >Anyone know why a different take was used - and which version >was used on the Glass Fish release? As far as I know (someone set me straight on this if I'm wrong) there are only two versions of this song. There's the original LP version. Then there's the "disco" version which came out as a single (B-side? I forget). It is my understanding that the Canadian relase of the album substitued the disco version and added "Vegetable Man" and "Strange" from the "Near the Soft Boys" EP, and that every subsequent release of Underwater Moonlight contained these three tracks. If that is correct. the original Pervert seems to have become a long lost rarity. Underwater Moonlight in it's original form (original pervert, no bonus tracks, album ends with the ringing final chord of the title track) is indeed a masterpiece. - -russ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #104 *******************************