From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #97 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, March 9 1998 Volume 07 : Number 097 Today's Subjects: ----------------- SXSW add-ons [firstcat@lsli.com] Robyn Hitchcock's Christmas Party [Eric Loehr ] Re: Robyn Hitchcock's Christmas Party [John Barrington Jones ] Doomsday [Capuchin ] Re: Re: How did Scoob and the gang make their money? [Capuchin ] Re: television [Crashedlux ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #96- assualt on Fan 13 ["Jon" ] Re: television [griffith ] Re: The Darwin Awards ["jbastin@stfx.ca" ] Re: cartoons [MARKEEFE ] Re: cartoons [Crashedlux ] digging out buried vocals. [John Chandler ] Re: Raymond RIP [Paul Montagne ] a small musicology addendum + two extras (a leg bye and a wide) [james.di] Re: a small musicology addendum + two extras (a leg bye and a wide) [wojs] James, is this for real? [tanter ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Mar 98 15:02:50 From: firstcat@lsli.com Subject: SXSW add-ons Two more reasons to go to SXSW this year if your wavering....as seen in Fegmaniax: Nick Lowe & Vic Chesnutt Cheers Jay - ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall Channel Sales Director Livermore Software Laboratories, Intl. 2825 Wilcrest, Suite 160 Houston, Texas 77042-3358 1-713-974-3274 jay@lsli.com Date: 3/9/98 - ------------------------------------- Two-Hour Luxury Goods Commercial Also A Spy Film ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:23:05 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Loehr Subject: Robyn Hitchcock's Christmas Party On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Bayard wrote: > I turned off all the lights and listened to "Robyn Hitchcock's Christmas > Party" the other night. Really superb song choices and amazingly clean > cuts between songs. Lobsterman has outdone himself yet again. I have to agree completely -- a great compilation of new stuff. John Bayard,(or anyone else) -- do you have a listing of what show each song is from? Eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:52:32 -0800 From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: Robyn Hitchcock's Christmas Party >On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Bayard wrote: > >> I turned off all the lights and listened to "Robyn Hitchcock's Christmas >> Party" the other night. Really superb song choices and amazingly clean >> cuts between songs. Lobsterman has outdone himself yet again. > >I have to agree completely -- a great compilation of new stuff. John >Bayard,(or anyone else) -- do you have a listing of what show each song is >from? Eric, Bayard-- Thank you so much for your kind words regarding "Robyn Hitchcock's Christmas Party." Regarding the info for each track, I never wrote the details down, but I did once email Hal Brandt a list (at his request) of each song and its source. Hal, do you have that written down anywhere?? - -jbj - -*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-# John B. Jones Email: lobstie@e-z.net ICQ: 8301543 AOL IM: Lobstie House of Figgy-- http://web.syr.edu/~jojones/hitchcock.html "Well, we went to the punk bar, then we went to the heroin bar, we had pasta at Fellini, and then we went to the pretty bar." -overheard at work - -*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-# ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:41:56 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Burn the Cheese! (various bits of trivial nothing, 0% Robyn) I'm cleaning out my Inbox. There might be more of these today, there might not. On Sun, 1 Mar 1998, Danielle wrote: > Danielle, reading 'Pretty in Pink: The Golden Age of Teenage Movies', > and coming to the conclusion that Molly Ringwald should have gone off > with Duckie rather than Andrew McCarthy, aka alien-constipation-boy Um... I think everyone between the ages of 18 and 33 (now) already knew this. But the POINT is that she didn't. The point is that she made the same shallow decision as everyone else... that no matter how much we say some things don't matter and how far we try to separate ourselves from The Establishment, there's an undeniable draw. And we don't always do what's best for us. Andie's mother is a good example. Why did she leave? Well, it's never quite explained. She ditched her alchoholic loser husband? No, he probably wasn't such a loser before she left. And that wouldn't explain why she left her lovely daughter behind. She did the WRONG thing and left for something she thought would be better at the time. She made a huge mistake and she's never coming back because you CAN'T go back. Andie left with Blaine and Duckie knew then that it was all over. No more pursuit because you can't ever go back. She'd made her decision. J. -- who should probably be considered the Prime Suspect if Molly Ringwald ever reports a stalker. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:45:29 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Blows and bows On Sun, 1 Mar 1998, Ross Overbury wrote: > Jeme, I've heard *accordion* music that can make me giddy. Lighten up, > buddy! *Accordian* music almost always makes me giddy, Russ. If I were any lighter, Archimedes Principle would force me into the upper ionosphere. That's all. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:53:55 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Doomsday On Sat, 7 Mar 1998, James Dignan wrote: > yes, there is a CD called 'Juvenilia' which is a compilation of everything > right up to Doomsday (heh... I mean the *song* Doomsday!). This just reminds me of something else silly and I meant to reply with it ages ago. The local art house was going to play the Director's Cut of Blade Runner when it was first released a few years ago. But at the last minute, the print was delayed so they played the recently released Wim Wenders film Until The End Of Th eWorld. The marquuee read: Blade Runner Postponed Until The End Of The World Well, I thought it was funny. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:59:27 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Re: How did Scoob and the gang make their money? On Sat, 7 Mar 1998, MARKEEFE wrote: > Well, when I said "good", I mostly meant something more like "morally > good", which is to say that creating Scrappy Doo was morally wrong. No, > you're right, though: They *do* suck often enough. Thank god for "Two Stupid > Dogs", the best new thing they've done since the 70's! Dear Lord. You watch that awful thing? Terrible. The best thing they've done, possibly EVER and currently in production, is Dexter's Laboratory. All hail the Boy Genius! J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 22:51:38 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (luther) Subject: cartoons On Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:05:16 -0500 (EST), you wrote: > >Eb wrote: >> If Scrappy Doo is so morally wrong, I shudder to think about the volatile >> opinions held about the later "robot" Scooby (can't remember the >> character's name).... > >No. The robot Scooby (whose name escapes me also) is just a dumb idea. >'Morally wrong' is defined by the recent 'baby' Scooby abomination. > >Incidentally, six of my friends were converted wholesale to the >'Fred-Daphne-Velma' mixed sexual orientation love triangle theory this >afternoon at the New Zealand/Zimbabwe one-day cricket match. It made for >some dirty but entertaining between-over banter. Thanks, you lot. ;) > >Danielle, pleased that we won for a change \ "Glad to be of service?"-Stimpy (back when R&N was worth watching, "so long ago".) Here's a good thread: what would a RH cartoon be like? what's songs could inspire said work? (Besides the obvious "flesh cartoons'). -luther ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:37:08 -0800 (PST) From: griffith Subject: television I'm a video production major (still) in college- and I watch a lot of TV (that is how I justify it to myself). Anyway, I had a strange dream about Robyn the other night. He had his own show on network television called "Robyn". The show as a straight rip-off of "Seinfeld". The opening segment had Robyn on stage with his guitar doing one of his monologues. I vaguely remember much more than that.... griffith = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Griffith Davies hbrtv219@csun.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:50:40 EST From: Crashedlux Subject: Re: television i had a dream similar to that except robyn was being interviewed by bryant gumbel(?) of nbc on the today show......bryant asked him a question which was greeted by a look of shock from robyn, who proceeded to bite off gumbel's(?) middle finger....... i woke up in a heavy sweat.....he he he ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:08:25 -0000 From: "Jon" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #96- assualt on Fan 13 > > So waddya think about Oasis? > > > > Actually I try not to. I must admit to owning and reviewing their first > album for a magazine. I found it kind of infectious and stupid. Not bad > pop music. They've put out some terrible stuff since then and the recent > assualt of a fan by Liam should be punished by forcing him to listen to > Yoko Ono albums repeatedly at high volume. I don't understand why > anyone would break the nose of a fan simply for taking pictures. I'm of > the opinion that stars give up some privacy for their cash. This isn't a > rock star attitude, this is ridiculous. > > Robert C'mon lighten up! It's something he can tell his kids about. Let's face it, who here would not like to be nutted by Robyn? It's the ultimate in Fan/Artist interaction (well, not quite - it could go further I admit). I have a pal who was kicked out of a RH gig in the mid '80's 'cos he got up on stage and kissed the guy, he still talks about it to this day. This fella will be dining out on this story for years. It's only Rock and Roll but he likes it, yes indeed. With my little stick of Blackpool rock............... Jon M ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 17:12:11 -0700 From: hal brandt Subject: Re: Robyn Hitchcock's Christmas Party John Barrington Jones wrote: > Regarding the info for each track, I never wrote the details down, but I > did once email Hal Brandt a list (at his request) of each song and its > source. Hal, do you have that written down anywhere?? Here it is: Viva seatac--- from the june seattle date w/tim (note: this was a week or so before the actual viva seatac gig) 1997 Loop the Loop---knoxville FM interview. E. Jade- KCRW If We Hear Music- Milwaukee FM interview. I Dream of Antwoman--Portland, OR 97 gig (aladdin theater) Cheese Alarm- Largo, Nov 97 Nietzsche's Way- Largo, Nov 97 Adoration of the City--Cat's cradle, nC, mar 97 Ring dem bones- kcrw may 97 Feels like 1974 --radcliffe session , bbc, aug 96 let's go thundering--nov 96 vogue theater vancouver bc we are the underneath--largo nov 97 daisy bomb--park west, clifton park ny mar 97 guilford--12 bar club, sep 96 green storm lantern- from your storefront session tape i feel beautiful- largo, nov 97 jewels- kcrw nick drake- kcrw where do you go--avalon, boston, ma nov 96 gene h--kcrw dark princess- (cash register remix) sweetwater cafe, mill valley (finally saw this place a few weeks ago. cool venue!!) superkeen- kcrw adoration with tim and ntshuks--jazz cafe camden nov or dec 97 /hal ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:43:10 -0800 (PST) From: griffith Subject: Re: television On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Crashedlux wrote: > i had a dream similar to that except robyn was being interviewed by bryant > gumbel(?) > of nbc on the today show......bryant asked him a question which was greeted by > a look of shock from robyn, who proceeded to bite off gumbel's(?) middle > finger....... > i woke up in a heavy sweat.....he he he That would be a rather epic moment in the history of broadcast television. griffith = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Griffith Davies hbrtv219@csun.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 21:01:16 -0400 From: "jbastin@stfx.ca" Subject: Re: The Darwin Awards No RH content, but I thought all of his fans would appreciate the following: I know you've all been waiting for this announcement!! Ladies and Gentlemen, the 1997 Darwin Award competition has announced its runners up and winners. These awards are given each year to bestow upon (the remains of) that individual, who through single-minded self sacrifice, has done the most to remove undesirable elements from the human gene pool. Note, there was great improvement in the areas of teamwork and cooperation among the candidates in 1997-- apparently it's no longer an individual sport. Also note that Michael Kennedy and Sonny Bono were not eligible (Kennedy's are not eligible on principle, and Sonny didn't die until 1998). Here, then (drum roll), are the 1997 runners-up and winners: 5th runner-up: A San Anselmo, California, man died when he hit a lift tower at the Mammoth Mountain ski area while riding down the slope on a foam pad. 22-year old avid Hubal was pronounced dead at Centinela Mammoth Hospital. The accident occurred about 3 a.m., the Mono County Sheriff's Department said. Hubal and his friends apparently had hiked up a ski run called Stump Alley and undid some yellow foam protectors from lift towers, said Lt. Mike Donnelly of the Mammoth Lakes Police Department. The pads are used to protect skiers who might hit towers. The group apparently used the pads to slide down the ski slope and Hubal crashed into a tower. It has since been investigated and determined the tower he hit was the one with its pad removed. 4th Runner-up: Robert Puelo, 32, was apparently being disorderly in a St. Louis market when the clerk threatened to call the police. Puelo grabbed a hot dog, shoved it into his mouth, and walked out without paying. Police found him unconscious in front of the store-- paramedics removed the six-inch wiener from his throat where it had choked him to death. 3rd Runner-up: Poacher Marino Malerba of Spain, shot a stag standing above him on an overhanging rock and was killed instantly when it fell on him. 2nd Runner-up: A man at a West Virginia party (probably related to the man in Arkansas who used the 22 bullet to replace the fuse in his pick-up truck) popped a blasting cap into his mouth and bit down, triggering an explosion that blew off his lips, teeth, and tongue. Jerry Stromyer, 24, of Kincaid, bit the blasting cap as a prank during the party late Tuesday night, said Cpl. M.D. Payne. "Another man had it in an aquarium hooked to a battery and was trying to explode it, said Payne. "It wouldn't go off and this guy said I'll show you how to set it off. "He put it into his mouth and bit down. It blew all his teeth out and his lips and tongue off, Payne said. Stromyer was listed in guarded condition Wednesday with extensive facial injuries, according to a spokesperson at Charleston Area Medical Division. "I just can't imagine anyone doing something like that, Payne said. 1st Runner-up: Doctors at Portland University Hospital said an Oregon man shot through the skull by a hunting arrow is lucky to be alive and will be released soon from the hospital. Tony Roberts, 25, lost his right eye last weekend during an initiation into a man's rafting club, Mountain Men Anonymous (probably known now as Stupid Mountain Men Anonymous) in Grants Pass, Oregon. A friend tried to shoot a beer can off his head, but the arrow entered Robert's right eye. Doctors said had the arrow gone 1 millimeter to the left, a major blood vessel would have been cut and Roberts would have died instantly. Neurosurgeon Doctor Johnny Delashaw at the University Hospital in Portland said the arrow went through 8 to 10 inches of brain with the tip protruding at the rear of his skull, yet somehow managed to miss all major blood vessels. Delashaw also said had Roberts tried to pull the arrow out on his own he surely would have killed himself. Roberts admitted afterwards he and his friends had been drinking that afternoon. (DUH). Said Roberts, "I feel so dumb about this." No charges have been filed, but the Josephine County district attorney's office said the initiation stunt is under investigation. >> AND NOW (the envelope, please)... Last year's winner, you will remember, was the fellow who was killed when he attached a JATO (Jet Assisted Take Off) unit to his Chevy Impala and shot himself and his car into a desert cliff at 300 M.P.H. This year's winners: (The late) John Pernicky and his friend, (the late) Sal Hawkins, of the great state of Washington, decided to attend a local Metallica concert at the George Washington amphitheater. Having no tickets (but having had 18 beers between them), they thought it would be easy to "hop" over the nine-foot fence and sneak into the show. They pulled their pick-up truck over to the fence and the plan was for Mr.Pernicky (who was 100 pounds heavier than Mr. Hawkins) to hop the fence and then assist his friend over. Unfortunately for Mr. Pernicky, there was a 30-foot drop on the other side of the fence. Having heaved himself over, he found himself crashing through a tree. His fall was abruptly broken (or, more precisely, his fall was halted, and his ARM was broken) by a large branch that snagged him by his shorts. Dangling from the tree with a broken arm, he looked down and saw some bushes below him. (Possibly) figuring the bushes would break his fall, he removed his pocket knife and proceeded to cut away his shorts to free himself from the tree. Finally free, (did I mention that he is THE LATE?) Mr. Pernicky crashed into holly bushes. The sharp leaves scratched his ENTIRE body and now without the protection of his shorts, a holly branch penetrated his rectal cavity. To make matters worse (?!), on landing, his pocket knife penetrated three inches into his thigh. He was, however, still alive at that point. Mr. Hawkins, on seeing his friend in considerable pain and agony, decided to throw him a rope and pull him to safety (now he thinks of the "S" word?) by tying the rope to the pick-up truck and slowly driving away. However, in his hasty, drunken state, he put the truck into reverse, smashed through the fence, and plummeted to the ground below, landing on his friend and killing him. Police arrived to find the crashed pick-up with its driver thrown 100 feet from the truck and dead at the scene from massive internal injuries. Upon moving the truck, they found a defunct and somewhat asymmetrical Mr. Pernicky under it, half-naked with scratches over virtually all of his body, a holly stick in his rectum, a knife in his thigh, and his shorts dangling from a tree branch 25-feet in the air. Congratulations, gentlemen, you win... DARWIN AWARD WANNA-BE'S * BUXTON, N.C. A man died on a beach when an 8-foot-deep hole he had dug into the sand caved in as he sat inside it. Beachgoers said Daniel Jones, 21, dug the hole for fun, or protection from the wind, and had been sitting in a beach chair at the bottom Thursday afternoon when it collapsed, burying him beneath 5 feet of sand. People on the beach on the Outer Banks used their hands and shovels, trying to claw their way to Jones, a resident of Woodbridge, Va., but could not reach him. It took rescue workers using heavy equipment almost an hour to free him while about 200 people looked on. Jones was pronounced dead at a hospital. * In February, Santiago Alvarado, 24, was killed in Lompoc, Calif., as he fell face-first through the ceiling of a bicycle shop he was burglarizing. Death was caused when the large flashlight he had placed in his mouth (to keep his hands free) crammed against the base of his skull as he hit the floor. * According to police in Dahlonega, Ga., ROTC cadet Nick Berrena, 20, was stabbed to death in January by fellow cadet Jeffrey Hoffman, 23, who was trying to prove that a knife could not penetrate the flak vest Berrena was wearing. * Sylvester Briddell, Jr., 26, was killed in February in Selbyville, Del., as he won a bet with friends who said he would not put a revolver loaded with four bullets into his mouth and pull the trigger. * In February, according to police in Windsor, Ont., Daniel Kolta, 27, and Randy Taylor, 33, died in a head-on collision, thus earning a tie in the game of chicken they were playing with their snowmobiles. * In October, a 49-year-old San Francisco stockbroker, who "totally zoned when he ran," according to his wife, accidentally jogged off a 200-foot-high cliff on his daily run. * In September in Detroit, a 41-year-old man got stuck and drowned in two feet of water after squeezing headfirst through an 18-inch-wide sewer grate to retrieve his car keys. * In September, a 7-year-old boy fell off a 100-foot-high bluff near Ozark, Ark., after he lost his grip swinging on a cross that marked the spot where another person had fallen to his death in 1990. * In Guthrie, Okla., in October, Jason Heck tried to kill a millipede with a shot from his .22-caliber rifle, but the bullet ricocheted off a rock near the hole and hit pal Antonio Martinez in the head, fracturing his skull. * In Elyria, Ohio, in October, Martyn Eskins, attempting to clean out cobwebs in his basement, declined to use a broom in favor of a propane torch and caused a fire that burned the first and second floors of his house. * Paul Stiller, 47, was hospitalized in Andover Township, N. J., in September, and his wife Bonnie was also injured, by a quarter-stick of dynamite that blew up in their car. While driving around at 2 a.m., the bored couple lit the dynamite and tried to toss it out the window to see what would happen, but they apparently failed to notice that the window was closed. - -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:14:43 EST From: MARKEEFE Subject: Re: cartoons In a message dated 3/9/98 3:03:57 PM, you wrote: <> Well, "DeChirico Street" is practically a cartoon already. . . and "Baloon Man" always seems somewhere in between, like "Roger Rabbit". Maybe the whole thing could be like that! . . . with Robyn being a real person while a bunch of the ideas and objects and characters from his songs come to life all around him in the form of animated cartoons. That'd be cool. There would need to be a recurring arch-rival, though. Who could that be? - -----Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:32:50 EST From: Crashedlux Subject: Re: cartoons There would need to be a recurring arch-rival, though. Who could that be? - -----Michael K. the archrival could be babyface! i can think of no one more in need of an originality lesson than babyface and his band of xeroxed flunkies! id like to here from anyone who doesnt agree!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:51:02 -0800 From: John Chandler Subject: digging out buried vocals. Bayard writes: > From: SAlpert5@aol.com > > There is one method of removing vocals that are mixed for the "center" of a > stereo track. Often this can be done with a cheapo portable CD player by partially removing the stereo mini-jack (fiddle with it until the music sounds significantly different). Often the vocals vanish, which may not be what you want, but it often makes the structure of the arrangement more obvious, and sometimes causes weird little details, normally buried in the mix, to pop forward. - -jmc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 22:58:11 -0800 From: Paul Montagne Subject: Re: Raymond RIP >The Starry Night Club was named Roseland Theater by this time. I've >already told my story about that particular show. Unfortunately I missed that >I don't know if I could find my ticket stubs, but I do have a paper bill >from the evening with Robyn scrawled "tickets" on the back and little >drawings of fishes with bubbles coming from their mouths. I don't >specifically remember Dark Green Energy, but I suspect that would have >been the first time I heard that songs and unfamiliar songs aren't as >easily remembered. It was a darn good gig (Portland, I mean). Ive got my ticket stubs in front of me now. It was the 23 and 24th Feb, 92. (the 23rd at the Roesland, as you pointed out). They were fantastic shows but a little weird knowing that Robyn's father had died. I think that as far as Egyptians tours are concerned that one stands out as my favorite Egyptians show ( as compared to the 1993 tour, I didnt see them in the 80's). The acoustic potions of those shows were tremendous. The set list of the shows:: Portland Feb 23 1992 (electric) Acid Bird Somewhere Apart So You Think Your'e In love Vegetation & Dimes Globe of Frogs If You Go Away Lysander Dark Green Energy Uncorrected Personality Traits Ultra Unbelievable Love Arms of Love Allright Yeah (acoustic) Clean Steve Heaven Glass Hotel Vera Lynn My Wife And My Dead Wife (electric) Oceanside Freeze Eugene - Feb. 24, 1992 Birds In Perspex So You Think Your'e In Love Vegetation & Dimes Balloon Man Child Of The Universe Lysander Uncorrected Personality Traits Oceansize Chinese Bones Globe Of Frogs When I Was Dead (announces his father had died, dedicates the song to him.) One Long Pair Of Eyes Eight Miles High Madonna Of the Wasps Glass Hotel Ride Chimes Of Freedom I'm Only You I'd love to own tapes of these shows if someone's got one. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:31:18 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: a small musicology addendum + two extras (a leg bye and a wide) just like to echo Sean's thought that Classical music may have had more of an imput in British music than in American. Could be... consider that prog rock never really caught on in the US to the same extent as in Britain (the likes of Yes and early King Crimson didn't really have US counterparts) and that it was British, rather than American, rock musicians who were attracted by the idea of performing with orchestras, starting with the Beatles (of course), but more prominently the Moody Blues, and at times everyone from Deep Purple to the Verve have dabbled in orchestral backing. It does occur in the US (Jim Steinman's production is one example), but it's not anywhere near as common. The same "European tradition" of classical music can probably also be blamed in part for the preponderance of what you might call the 'neo-orchestration' of Krautrock, and France's Jean Michel Jarre (although trying to fit France and rock music into the same sentence is a dodgy proposition at the best of times) >Danielle, pleased that we won for a change it was a close call though! Good thing Cairns kept his nerve in the final over... Bayard sez: >On "the other list" we have been haing great success with figuring out >lyrics, with only a couple of exceptions. other list? what other list? is that the one woj said he was thinking of starting up? is it actually up and running? should I ask any more questions? or not? should I stop now? James? James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 23:12:19 -0500 From: wojs of mass destruction Subject: Re: a small musicology addendum + two extras (a leg bye and a wide) also sprach James Dignan: >other list? what other list? is that the one woj said he was thinking of >starting up? nope. the "other list" bayard is talking about would be the lyrics project working list where they're busily working to generate a complete set of lyrics for bayard's robynbase thingie. >is it actually up and running? fegmaniax-announce -- a moderated news-and-reviews-only list -- is up and running. anyone interested in only that sort of thing may want to unsub from fegmaniax and/or fegmaniax-digest and sub to fegmaniax-announce. details are at . woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 23:33:53 -0500 From: tanter Subject: James, is this for real? AUCKLAND (March 9, 1998 07:54 a.m. EST http://www.nando.net) - British pop group Oasis, the bad boys of rock, slipped into New Zealand with rare words of praise for their manners. Fears that the band would cause trouble on board a flight from Brisbane to Auckland proved groundless and Liam and Noel Gallagher, who front the group, were praised by fellow passengers for their "gentlemanly" behavior. Air New Zealand passengers told how Liam quietly tuned his guitar in the airport passenger lounge, while brother Noel practiced his soccer dribbling skills to pass time. Once on board the pair slept for most of the four-hour journey. The hell-raising duo even posed for photographs and signed autographs for fans before boarding the flight. It was all a far cry from the Australia leg of their tour, which started with complaints about their "obnoxious" behavior on a flight from Hong Kong and ended with Liam appearing in court charged with assaulting a fan. They even had to apologize to disappointed fans for a dreadful performance of just one hour, which was cut short as the five-member band argued on stage and refused to appear for an encore. This time around, however, there were no hurt feelings or injuries. "We saw Noel and Liam sitting in the Brisbane airport lounge. Liam was practicing a few chords and Noel was tapping a football around. They seemed perfectly sober and well-behaved," said passenger Mike Puru. "I was a bit nervous of approaching Liam because of his reputation but he was really pleasant and chatty." Passenger Xeina Williams, also catching the Auckland-bound flight said: "I couldn't believe it when Liam and Noel posed for a photo with me. I really like Oasis' music and asked if I could shake Liam's hand. "He said 'no problem, love' and stood next to me while I had my picture taken. He was great." Only a handful of fans were on hand to meet the band when they arrived at Auckland Airport. Liam, wearing his trademark sunglasses, waved briefly to the small crowd before being whisked away with his brother to their city center hotel. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #97 ******************************