From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #95 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, March 8 1998 Volume 07 : Number 095 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Say no mo'h! [tanter ] Pleasure of the Aching Void [BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper)] Re: sad dragon songs and bong hits [KarmaFuzzz ] Re: songs for raymond [KarmaFuzzz ] Re: Sgt Pepper Knew My Father [hal brandt ] varia (warning, RH content approaching 2% level!) [james.dignan@stonebow.] Re: Mike Love's Hall of Fame rant [hal brandt ] scams [tanter ] Re: Roibyn & Blur. An armchair musicological diatribe [Sean Hennessey ] Re: mostly ridiculous content [Capuchin ] Re: Raymond RIP [Capuchin ] Re: Re: How did Scoob and the gang make their money? [MARKEEFE ] The Crying Game [Dave Librik ] cookies and the snoggable Mr. Keegan [Carole Reichstein ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 21:18:26 -0500 From: tanter Subject: Say no mo'h! BRISBANE, Australia (March 6, 1998 11:54 a.m. EST http://www.nando.net) -- Liam Gallagher of Oasis was released on bail Friday after being arrested for head-butting a British fan and breaking his nose after the man snapped pictures. Gallagher, lead singer of the British rock band Oasis, was charged with assault occasioning bodily harm and released on $6,900 bail. No formal plea was required. Brisbane lawyer Terry O'Gorman has said Gallagher vigorously denies the charge and will plead innocent. The fan, a 19-year-old British tourist, was injured in a scuffle after he snapped pictures outside the band's Brisbane hotel Thursday night. The band arrived in Brisbane on Thursday and were scheduled to give a concert at the Brisbane Entertainment Center Friday night.  ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:35:24 -0900 From: BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper) Subject: Pleasure of the Aching Void Can anyone tell me what happened to Sandra and Trudy who ran the fan club back in the 80s? I used to belong to it when I was a little kid... Brett ************************************************************** Cooper Collections P.O. Box 876462 Wasilla, Alaska 99687 (907) 376-4520 BC-Radio@corecom.net http://www.corecom.net/~no6pp/BC_Radio_Online.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 21:45:12 EST From: KarmaFuzzz Subject: Re: sad dragon songs and bong hits In a message dated 98-03-06 14:54:27 EST, tclark@apple.com writes: > So what's the story about "Puff..." being a song about pot? I don't > remember how the words go, but apparently there's a lot of double > entendres(sp) regarding "Puff" and Johnny "Paper." that was Spiro Agnew's theory, which I think pretty much sums up everything you need to know about it (for non-americans: it's a load of shit). i mean, most fantastical children's records/books can be twisted into being about drugs if you try hard enough.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 21:41:18 EST From: KarmaFuzzz Subject: Re: songs for raymond tclark@apple.com writes: >Terrence M Marks wrote: > >Wasn't Dark Green Energy written, recorded and released before > >Raymond Hitchcock died, though? you can write about things before they happen though. how did raymond die? if it was a lingering/longer term type of illness, it's quite probable his dying could inspire songs, just as his death could. (dying being the process/death being the finale) > >(I think...which single was it part of, and when was it released?) > Wasn't it on one of the Balloon Man singles? it's on go! discs 12" for "so you think you're in love." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 20:04:13 -0700 From: hal brandt Subject: Re: Sgt Pepper Knew My Father Eb wrote: > "Sgt Pepper Knew My Father" > I dig the Wedding Present and Sonic Youth tracks.... > > ("Getting Better" and "Within You Without You") Robyn's version of "Within You Without You" on "Unhatched Crablings" (Vol IV) is also very sweet (even though I still favor the Fabs original). /hal ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 16:10:44 +1300 (NZDT) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: varia (warning, RH content approaching 2% level!) >> Actually, do bands with fegs normally post on here before >>gigs? >> Is it in poor taste? > >They often do, and it's not considered in poor taste at all. Can't speak for >others but I myself regard these type of announcements as community bulletin >board event posting type things. I would even be delighted to go to such >gigs, but none of them ever seem to occur in the Chicago area. I've never posted a 'come and see me play!" message, although I may have mentioned it in passing if it has had any bearing on ongoign conversations. I just figure than none of you would come along :( Dolph posted some great weepy songs, and yet again, I found myself thinking of some more (sorry to keep perstering you with them). Dolph, I echo your "Too far down" comment, and also the "Senbual world" one - - there's a song on therte called something like "Never be mine" that gets me occasionally. As for REM, you didn't mention "Find the River". Simon and Garfunkel supplied "Song for the Asking", and - dare I mention Robyn Hitchcock? - I'm surprised no-one has mentioned "Glass Hotel" (are you still there, Eve?), or "August Hair". I'll even toss in Gordon Lightfoot's "Song for a Winter's Night", for good measure. And Eno's "Everything merges with the night". >- -russ (currently avoiding Dylan's "If You See Her Say Hello" to prevent >"Dolphing") hey - good neologism! That one could catch on! > So what's the story about "Puff..." being a song about pot? I don't > remember how the words go, but apparently there's a lot of double > entendres(sp) regarding "Puff" and Johnny "Paper." someone decided that the word dragon could be rendered as drag-on. "puff the drag on"? I don't buy it myself, but that's reading between the lines for you. James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 20:38:46 -0700 From: hal brandt Subject: Re: Mike Love's Hall of Fame rant Eb wrote: > If anyone has the exact text of Love's speech, I'd love to see it. OK...flash your minds back to the third Rock 'n' Roll Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremonies (1988). The Beatles, The Beach Boys, Bob Dylan, The Supremes and others were being inducted. Mike Love stepped up to the mic and gave this rambling, vicious, sometimes incoherant rant that shocked the audience and had people speculating about what Mike was on. The transcription won't do it justice. Every time another musician's name was mentioned, Mike's bald pate glistened and his slurred tongue spewed venom, so try to imagine that tone when reading: "I think it's wonderful to be here tonight, but I also think it's sad that there are other people who aren't here tonight, and those are the people who've passed away...those are the obvious ones. But the other not-so-obvious ones are people like Paul McCartney who couldn't be here tonight because he's in a lawsuit with Ringo and Yoko- that's what he said in a telegram to some high-priced attorney in this room, ya know? Now, that's a BUMMER because we're talking about Harmony in the world. If we can't get it together in America and in England and harmony within our groups...I mean, believe it, you can believe it...the Beach Boys have their own (unintelligible) or whatever you call it, squabbles, but that's a BUMMER when MS. ROSS can't make it, ya know? The Beach Boys'll continue to do...we did about a hundred and eighty performances last year. I'd like to see the "MOPTOPS" match that-! I'd like to see MICK JAGGER get out on the stage and do "I Get Around" vs. "Jumpin' Jack Flash" ANY DAY NOW! Now, a lot of people are gonna go outta this room tonight thinking that Mike Love is crazy...well, they been sayin' that for years! Ain't nothin' new about that! And now we're (slurring gets more pronounced) ssssittin' in this room with all this glitterati of the glissando...all 6% of us...and we're hasslin', we're fighting...(mumbles) squabbles, messin' around...what I want to see is this whole room recognize that there is One Earth here and I want us to do something FANTASTIC with all of this talent and this wonderful spirit and soul, and I'd like to see some people KICK OUT THE JAMS, and I challenge "The BOSS" to get up onstage and jam..!" [Note: At this point, musical director Paul Shaffer plays the Theramin intro to 'Good Vibrations'...he might just as well have played the Twilight Zone Theme. Love continues to rant.] "I wanna see BILLY JOEL...see if he can still TICKLE IVORIES...lemme see! I know MICK JAGGER won't be here tonight, he's gonna have to stay in *burp* England. But, I'd like to see us in the Coliseum and he in Wembley Stadium, 'cause he's always been CHICKENSHIT to get on stage with the Beach Boys...!" [Shaffer then tries to drown Love out by striking up the band, which inspires him to conclude] "...and we're gonna do it for World Peace and Love and Harmony. Yeah! Alright!" Jagger, who Love accused of being in England, was sitting 20 ft. from the stage. Jagger got his revenge during the closing jam when he came across Love's shoes (which he always removes while singing). Jagger took them in the midst of 'Satisfaction' and threw them into the audience. Bob Dylan later thanked Love for "not mentioning me" and added "I play a lot of dates every year, too. Peace, Love and Harmony is greatly important indeed, but so is Forgiveness and we gotta have that, too." I really wish you could hear this tape for yourself. It cracks me up every time. /hal ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 23:11:05 -0500 From: tanter Subject: scams Hi all. Does anyone know if there is someone in particular to whom you can report internet scams? I found this psychic thing that said I could get free help--I sent a message using a false name and got back a long schpiel that basically says I have to pay a fee to get help. I don't really care THAT much, but I can imagine some really unhappy people falling prey to this schmuck and I want to report him. Any ideas? Thanks. Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:19:10 -0500 (EST) From: Sean Hennessey Subject: Re: Roibyn & Blur. An armchair musicological diatribe Hallo all, James had some very interesting points in his 'rant'. Funnily, it's something that I've often thought about, though in a slightly different way. I've noted that more British musicians practice the art of orchestration within their music, not meaning the use of orchestra, but the of breaking down parts, or layering them, rather than the traditional American techniques of pounding chords, sticking to a riff, etc. Not that I'm trying to say one's better than the other (though as a musician I generally prefer the former, possibly because I'm such a crap soloist!:). I also attributed the Yank chords and solo tech. to the links to the blues, which is still such a strong influence, but for some reason I put the 'European layering' to a 'stronger' musical base, stemming from the classical tradition (though very admittedly through music hall, etc., as James put it). Now, it seems silly, but if you look at it generally, the American tradition tends towards improvisation off of riffs, whilst the European towards written parts, etc. While there there's definitely exceptions to these rules, I think you could be hard pressed to see a band like XTC or the Smiths, with their strong, every hair in place, writing styles, popping out of, oh say, Detroit (and my video game addled mind fails to produce a decent American comliment to this... Maybe Nirvana or Guns and Roses (I like both, though the latter to a much much lesser extent)). And of course it's the mix that creates the interest... What's always amazed me is how the one feeds the other, starting with the early American dominance with R&B, the perfection of the same by the Stones and the Who, and expanded on by the Beatles, which flew back over here and was built upon, and went back, da da da. A brilliant vicious circle. Long live the 'competition'! :) tara - Sean ******************************************************************************* Sean Hennessey, President of the Boston Reds, an 'unoffical' Manchester United Supporters' Club url: http://members.tripod.com/~boston_reds/red_army.html email: suggs@tiac.net *Bassist: Slippy Keane* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 00:49:15 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: How did Scoob and the gang make their money? > > Exactly! Truth is, Scrappy should have never existed. Yet another good > reason why the Scrappy Years should just be written off as a sick, money- > hungry perversion from the (usually) good folks at ol' H-B. I mean, when it As an avid cartoon-watcher, I take offense that you refer to Hanna-Barbara as usually good. H-B has a nasty tendency to take cartoons that could sustain a 10-minute one-shot and drag them out for three years. Anything involving Scrappy Doo is bad. Anything involving The Herculoids or the original Johnny Quest or Penelope Pitstop or Wacky Races or Laff-a-lympics or Hawkman or The Jetsons or that Stop The Pigeon one or The Robonic (not a typo) Stooges or The Roman Hollidays or Captain Caveman or The Impossibles or Jabberjaw or Top Cat or about 200 others that I've forgotten flat-out sucks. I mean, I can see giving HB some props over Hong Kong Phooey or The Powerpuff Girls or the early Scooby Doo, but calling them usually good is just too much. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 01:30:55 -0600 From: sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain) Subject: Re: mostly ridiculous content >"Extra polite SM scenario?" Why that's just not true!! What do you mean, "extra-polite"? S/M scenarios are unfailingly polite, especially when the crop is in view. Love on ya, Susan I wouldn't know anything about this, of course........;) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 01:35:02 -0600 From: sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain) Subject: Re: Roibyn & Blur. An armchair musicological diatribe >you can go further back in this "Englishness" debate than Noel Coward, back >to Gilbert & Sullivan. That and music hall were probably early influences >on a lot of British music in the earlier part of this century, some tending >more towards the former influence (Noel Coward), some more towards the >latter (George Formby and his ilk). Well, yes, I just didn't want to go back that far. I wasn't so much tracing the roots of the sound of "Englishness" as showing how easy it could be to confuse influence and commonality, and just threw Noelie in as an obviously impossible example (e.g., it's pretty obvious he wasn't influenced by the Kinks) to illustrate. I think it backfired on me somewhat because it was a little -too- obviously impossible :). Some of a well-written and IMHO (mostly) true hypothesis snipped for brevity. >like. I think it's just the different pool of influences. Whereas American >rock & roll, in its early days, had as its strongest influences blues (and >ultimately Negro spirituals and worksongs), country and western (from >Appalachian folk and the like), jazz, and vaudeville Only a couple quibbles here. The first is rather small and more me being a pedant than anything else, but said Appalachian folk and the like was oftentimes descended from traditional English folk (and a lot of these tunes, like Blackjack Davey to name an obvious one, changed in tone and/or lyrical content somewhat to reflect the different setting, but retained a lot of the same stories), so couldn't that be thrown in? And this music had an influence on the blues and a lot of commonalities with it, as the blues is also fundamentally about storytelling. And jazz was born out of the blues as well. I'd argue that the most direct antecedent for early rock and roll is probably "jump blues", which I guess if you had to define it is sort of the bastard child of blues and swing jazz, and that the country influence is less important than that one. > - in that order, in Britain the influences were music hall/vaudeville, blues, traditional >English folk, and jazz - in that order. Not really arguing here, but here's a question: what exactly is the difference between someone like Noel Coward and someone like George Formby? I mean, is there a different name for what each one did? Would they both be classed as "music hall" performers? As far as I can pinpoint the difference had mainly to do with where they would be performing and the type of person that would be attending, e.g., an audience -class- difference. Obviously Coward's humor and style are a bit different, leaning towards social and cultural satire, rather than the out and out silliness of a song like "Henry the 8th", and his sentimentality was mostly of the jaded variety. But still, I'm not sure I quite understand where the fine line between them really is. Incidentally, one of the things that always fascinated me about Ray Davies' songwriting is the way that he combines both of these strains effortlessly. I still hear more of the Coward influence though. "Sunny Afternoon" could almost be a cheeky response to "Stately Homes Of England", methinks :). >with bands like Blur. Both XTC and Robyn H show some influences of >(particularly the Kinksian variant of) music hall based rock, albeit The thing is, I think the Kinks -are- the real influence here, especially when talking about Blur. >America the same expressions are often drawn from the spanish (cf two words >for crazy: 'doolally' and 'loco'). The two languages are mutually Totally off the point- does anyone have any idea how the word "nuts" came to be used to mean crazy? Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 23:53:00 -0800 From: Paul Montagne Subject: Raymond RIP >>Raymond died circa 1991/1992 (according to Bayard's >>Chronology). >I'm almost positive Raymond Hitchcock died Feb. 22, 1992. That is >assuming Robyn found out within 24 hours. That sounds about right.... Robyn was touring w/ the Egyptians in the US when his father died. He played Portland at the Starry Night Club (Matthew Sweet opened) and announced during the gig that his father was gravely ill and in the hospital. The next night he played in Eugene at the University of Oregon's student union (Erb Memorial Union), announcing there that his father had passed away that day. I have the ticket stubs at home so I cant report the dates right now. He did play Dark Green Energy that evening. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 02:32:11 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: mostly ridiculous content On Sat, 7 Mar 1998, amadain wrote: > >"Extra polite SM scenario?" Why that's just not true!! > What do you mean, "extra-polite"? S/M scenarios are unfailingly polite, > especially when the crop is in view. > Love on ya, > Susan > I wouldn't know anything about this, of course........;) giraffe ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 02:44:19 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Raymond RIP On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, Paul Montagne wrote: > >>Raymond died circa 1991/1992 (according to Bayard's > >>Chronology). > >I'm almost positive Raymond Hitchcock died Feb. 22, 1992. That is > >assuming Robyn found out within 24 hours. > > That sounds about right.... > Robyn was touring w/ the Egyptians in the US when his father died. He > played Portland at the Starry Night Club (Matthew Sweet opened) and The Starry Night Club was named Roseland Theater by this time. I've already told my story about that particular show. > announced during the gig that his father was gravely ill and in the > hospital. The next night he played in Eugene at the University of Oregon's > student union (Erb Memorial Union), announcing there that his father had > passed away that day. Well, the Portland show was the 23rd, so it must have been the 24th that Raymond passed away. > I have the ticket stubs at home so I cant report the > dates right now. He did play Dark Green Energy that evening. I don't know if I could find my ticket stubs, but I do have a paper bill from the evening with Robyn scrawled "tickets" on the back and little drawings of fishes with bubbles coming from their mouths. I don't specifically remember Dark Green Energy, but I suspect that would have been the first time I heard that songs and unfamiliar songs aren't as easily remembered. It was a darn good gig (Portland, I mean). J. - -- "Say what you want about the tennets of National Socialism, at least THEY had a fucking ethos." Walter, friend of The Dude, Veteran, on Nihilism. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 12:43:56 EST From: MARKEEFE Subject: Re: Re: How did Scoob and the gang make their money? In a message dated 3/6/98 9:55:10 PM, Terrence wrote: <> Well, when I said "good", I mostly meant something more like "morally good", which is to say that creating Scrappy Doo was morally wrong. No, you're right, though: They *do* suck often enough. Thank god for "Two Stupid Dogs", the best new thing they've done since the 70's! - -----Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:47:15 -0000 From: "Matthew Knights" Subject: Pretty Things CD's Mail Order [No Robyn] I know there are some Pretty Things fans on the mailing list and I just successfully ordered two Pretty Things albums, Parachute and SF Sorrow, from a mail order company over the internet. The company name is Esprit International. I have no connection with this company but I have used them and have found them to be reliable so I feel I can recommend them to the list. They appear to have a very large catalogue / catalog of unusual and obscure albums from the past. If anyone is interested their internet details are URL http://eil.com E-mail jp@eil.com Matt _________________________________________________________________ Matthew Knights mknights@harrywasp.prestel.co.uk Ton ame est un lac d'amour dont mes desirs sont les cygnes... Vois, comme ils en font le tour de ton ame! _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 20:30:39 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (luther) Subject: mine mind mine On Fri, 6 Mar 1998 21:13:11 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 12:37:28 -0600 >From: sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain) >Subject: Re: intelligence---shameless NoNL plug. > >> IS it just me, or isn't sometimes FUN to get in an >>intellectual ((as opposed to emotional "after the dance of a thousand >>kisses comes the catacomb of toungues" -RT) battle with a female >>'other'? Judging by the posts on the list, I think maybe the average >>Feg is smarter than the average (No, I will NOT say "bear" :-) ) >>person, and repsects that. > >It is often fun to get into an intellectual battle with your "other". I >would never get seriously involved with someone who didn't enjoy that. >Actually the idea that this differentiates by gender disturbs me just >slightly. What is this "Is it just me business?" (Please don't get me wrong, >I'm not trying to be confrontational, it's a real question born out of >curiosity at the way your post was phrased). You hang out with other guys >who -don't- have intellectual debates with female others, ever? Well, not anymore, but when I was in college, it was a small school, so I had to pull a chamelon to have any sort of social life. (Even then, It was my terms- Ask the fegs who showed up for our gig last night- the stuffed dinosaurs, potted plants, and non-sequiturs were part of my indentity back then!) Yes, there are a great many men who *don't* enjoy intellectual content in women! I always >thought it was sort of a naturally occuring thing between all "others" >regardless of gender. I mean, for me it just -is-. If it's not there then >what -do- you talk about ever and what on earth are you spending all that >time together doing? Sex can't take up -all- of it :) ....well for some guys it can....curiously, these were people who couldn't STAND Robyn, prefering the strains of Bush. > >> Actually, do bands with fegs normally post on here before >>gigs? >> Is it in poor taste? > >They often do, and it's not considered in poor taste at all. Can't speak for >others but I myself regard these type of announcements as community bulletin >board event posting type things. I would even be delighted to go to such >gigs, but none of them ever seem to occur in the Chicago area. > >It's possible the mention of Corey Hart might frighten people away, though. >I'd be careful about that in future :). > Well, we mentioned him last night...destroyed one of his records, too!!! ` Thanks to the fegs who showed up! We had a good time! -luther w dudich >Love on ya, >Susan > >------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:50:44 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Re: How did Scoob and the gang make their money? >In a message dated 3/6/98 9:55:10 PM, Terrence wrote: > ><as usually good.>> > > Well, when I said "good", I mostly meant something more like "morally >good", which is to say that creating Scrappy Doo was morally wrong. No, >you're right, though: They *do* suck often enough. Thank god for "Two Stupid >Dogs", the best new thing they've done since the 70's! If Scrappy Doo is so morally wrong, I shudder to think about the volatile opinions held about the later "robot" Scooby (can't remember the character's name).... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:24:21 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Subject: RE: How did Scoob and the gang make their money? Okay, and on the subject of Scooby Snacks, Shaggy and Scooby would do anything to get them. Want them to go after the ghost? Just offer them the Scooby Snacks. But they were in a box... with a logo.... which suggests they were manufactured, rather than just something that the gang cooked up. So if they were available in boxes, why didn't Shaggy and Scooby go to the store and buy their own box of the fantabulous treats? Also, as they seem to be mass produced, why are they named after the gangs dog? Fred always reminded me of those 70's pseudo-hipsters, or lounge singers, what with the scarf (there's a better word for it that I can't think of) that he wore around his neck. As for Scrappy's mother, could it have been Scooby Dee, the fabulous stage actress? Isn't Scooby Dee Scooby Doo's cousin? And since Scrappy always called him Uncle Scooby.....well, maybe that's the connection, Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Mar 98 21:37:28 EST From: Ross Overbury Subject: Sender: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org Somebody's got to do it... Jon McG and Robert Thompson, Welcome to fegmaniax, where we discuss armpits, movies, polyphony, phony psychics, lucid dreaming and Eb. So waddya think about Oasis? - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 22:27:25 -0600 From: Dave Librik Subject: The Crying Game Music that made me weep? _The Final Cut_. No question. Unbelievably powerful by the time it's over. Those who sneer (including the ghost of Nicholas Schaffner, Gilmour's hatchet man) are invited to step outside. :) - - David Librik "ashes and diamonds, foe and friend / we were all equal in the end." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:23:20 -0800 (PST) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: cookies and the snoggable Mr. Keegan ..I was just browsing at the Homer website. I clicked onto its "info" link and found an interesting tidbit of news among the expected stuff. Tim Keegan apparently has appeared in a "Fox's Biscuits" commercial. And to help UK TV viewers pick him out of a cookie-eating crowd, "he's the one who gets a big snog from a girl." Ha! Has any UK Feg on this list seen this commercial? Not that I *myself* pay attention to cookie ads, but if Tim Keegan was in it, I certainly would. Perhaps it will be a trailer for "Storefront Hitchcock?" :) Tori Amos was in a cornflakes ad years ago. Why not Robyn? He could do an organic gardening segment on TV or something. I'd love to see him do a painting show as well--just point a camera at Robyn and watch him do one of his watercolors. Alas, this is just dream TV. Sigh. - -Carole ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 01:12:30 -0500 From: tanter Subject: Re: sad dragon songs and bong hits At 11:46 AM 3/6/98 -0800, you wrote: >So what's the story about "Puff..." being a song about pot? I don't >remember how the words go, but apparently there's a lot of double >entendres(sp) regarding "Puff" and Johnny "Paper." Yes, Pete Seeger has discussed this until he's green in the gills. He had smoked about 6 joints, popped some LSD and shot up with a "bit" of heroin on a particular Sunday morning when he was bored. He suddenly found himself by the seashore, face to face with a real dragon--not a make believe one, but a bonafide, huge, green, scaly beast about 8 stories high. This beast was very friendly and they had a great time together but Pete had to go home about the time his high ended. He and "Puff" were both sad, but the "drag-on" can't live forever, nor can little boys, so Pete "went home." He wrote about the song after the major crash he suffered. I thought this was common knowledge..?? Marcy ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #95 ******************************