From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #92 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, March 5 1998 Volume 07 : Number 092 Today's Subjects: ----------------- antwoman [Crashedlux ] Re: the 80's [Capuchin ] Re: Nick Cave, Dave Matthews ["jbastin@stfx.ca" ] Re: the 80's [BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper)] High Fidelity [Sumiko Keay ] Re: Nick Cave, Dave Matthews [Bret ] Re: "Glass Flesh" [Tom Clark ] Re: Spicy girls'n'guys [Tom Clark ] Re: fever pitch [Sean Hennessey ] Mea Culpa ["The Great Quail" ] Re: Comfort food [Ner ] westies, quailomatics and retranslations [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.] still catching up [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Driven to Tears (0% Police content) [MARKEEFE ] RE: Driven to Tears (0% Police content) ["Baker, David(KWI-C09)" ] Re: well and truly dead, on tour this summer ["Charles Gillett" ] Crumb [dlang ] Re: Mea Culpa-*Quail exposed!!!!* [dlang ] Re: Crumb [Capuchin ] Re: Re[3]: Blur ["BENJAMIN.BRETTENNY" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:25:01 EST From: Crashedlux Subject: antwoman Has anyone other than myself had any funds tied up in antwoman? I ordered something from them last February when it was still Mrs.Wafflehead and was sure that by one year i would have at least had my money back.... Does anyone know any more information other than what is posted on the Fegmaniax page? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:59:00 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: the 80's On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, luther wrote: > C-mon, all us that were preadolescent boys in the 80's > remember KITT.! Um, quite a few girls remember, too. And the only recurring woman on the show was a brainy scientist type. And it starred a hunky (titter) man. I don't see why you think it was a boys' show. But I don't want to talk about that. > but seriously, the New Kids were not marketed as real > musicians. > (though Mark Wahlberg is a good actor! :-) ) Mark Wahlberg wasn't a New Kid... he was just a New Kid's brother. I personally like what Dennis Miller said about Donny Wahlberg: Those learing eyes, that half-sneer, the goatee, the earring... comes cruising onto the set on his Harley... just to let you know that he's a motorcycle guy in a moped band. > Plus, "so you think your in love" was the 'big hit'. > I remember it being played on the local "home of rock and > roll" station, in between warrant and winger!!! Yeah, it was huge. Remember Perspex Island riding that college chart and #1 for weeks and weeks. The video popped up on MTV a godbillion times. Definitely the big hit. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 18:17:17 -0400 From: "jbastin@stfx.ca" Subject: Re: Nick Cave, Dave Matthews Can somebody out there who knows tell me why I should pick up Dave Matthew's "Under the Table and Dreaming" or Nick Cave's "Murder Ballads"? Sorry, no RH content whatsoever... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:13:20 -0900 From: BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper) Subject: Re: the 80's >> C-mon, all us that were preadolescent boys in the 80's >> remember KITT.! > >Um, quite a few girls remember, too. And the only recurring woman on the >show was a brainy scientist type. And it starred a hunky (titter) man. I >don't see why you think it was a boys' show. On the contrary, the Knight Rider was indeed targeted at the male populus. If the show picked up female fans along the way, then that was an added bonus. Most television encyclopedias that I have read, along with Glen A. Larson's (the creator) comments, say that the show was driven not by K.I.T.T., but by testosterone. Brett (making his yearly cameo) ************************************************************** Cooper Collections P.O. Box 876462 Wasilla, Alaska 99687 (907) 376-4520 BC-Radio@corecom.net http://www.corecom.net/~no6pp/BC_Radio_Online.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 16:39:58 -0600 From: Sumiko Keay Subject: High Fidelity The Chicago Tribune website is running a discussion of High Fidelity in its books section. Someone mentioned that John Cusack is going to be starring in the film and also that they are, therefore, changing the location from London to somewhere in the U.S. -- apparently John doesn't do accents. . . wonder if this means they'll be in Chicago? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:42:42 -0600 (CST) From: Bret Subject: Re: Nick Cave, Dave Matthews At 06:17 PM 3/4/98 -0400, you wrote: >Can somebody out there who knows tell me why I should pick up Dave Matthew's >"Under the Table and Dreaming" or Nick Cave's "Murder Ballads"? Sorry, no RH >content whatsoever... No help on the Dave Atchoo's record, but as far as Nick Cave goes, I think I may be able to pass along a little info. for starters, Murder Ballads, happens to be Nicks weakest piece of work to date. My suggestion would be to pick up the latest and the one before MB (The Boatman's Call and Let Love In in that order) .......both of these records have enough emotion to kill most people. Let Love In also has what may be the closest Nick has ever come to a 'hit' with 'Red Right Hand' being featured in 'The X-Files' (and on 'Songs in the Key of X') 'Scream' and "Dumb and Dumber'. This is a hard thing for me to say, to actually attempt to pick some of Nick Cave's music as 'a good place to start' as I can sit and listen to him almost constantly. hmmmmmm Rent Wim Wender's 'WIngs of Desire' also for a good feeling of what to expect. etc, etc, etc - --Bret ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 98 14:56:02 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: "Glass Flesh" On 3/4/98 3:30 AM, Helen Percival wrote: >Hi everyone, I would just like to say that i bought the album "Glass >Flesh" last saturday. Thanks to everyone who wrote to me about it!!! I >like it, except some of it. Please tell us what you didn't like. And name names! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 98 14:58:13 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Spicy girls'n'guys On 3/4/98 8:32 AM, Aaron Mandel wrote: >i think ginger is supposed to be "the smart one". not too convincing -- in >the movie it was more like "the occasionally pretentious one". dude, you just copped to seeing the movie. bummer for you. ;^) - -tc p.s. Thanks to RH and all fegs who suggested Nick Drake - truly awesome stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:38:35 -0500 (EST) From: Sean Hennessey Subject: Re: fever pitch Hey James and all, > >Actually, the best book I've read was also by him. He must be the master > >of obsessions, as he's covered both mine now, music in _High_ and > >football in _Fever Pitch_ (my fav., though I've read both). Though it's > >hard to forgive him for writing such a good and insiteful book about > >Arsenal! :) (I know someone on this list is gonna hate me for that > >one...:) > > oh yes - guess who! :) I don't know - these damn Manure United fans... ;) Heh heh. Nothing like a good damning from those Arse fans... Pity the book's the best result your lot can find these days... ;) > Fever Pitch is a great book "loosely adapted" into one of the best movies > of the last couple of years, too. Ah, 1989. Nice one, Michael Thomas! Pah. I still can't find the movie trapped in the States. I thought I'd tracked it down, special ordered it, and almost ended up with some sad thing with whats'isface the erstwhile boxer (I think) and nothing to do with football... Show's you you're in a footie wasteland when you have to look about for a film about the Arse... :) tara - Sean ******************************************************************************* Sean Hennessey, President of the Boston Reds, an 'unoffical' Manchester United Supporters' Club url: http://members.tripod.com/~boston_reds/red_army.html email: suggs@tiac.net *Bassist: Slippy Keane* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 15:46:38 PST From: "The Great Quail" Subject: Mea Culpa I was wrong! O, so horribly wrong! I have finally, even at this late hour, realized the error of my ways. Human beings *do* deserve to be free, while Capitalism/Wage Slavery *is* the ultimate enchainment. Capitalism *is* the antithesis of Democracy. The lyrics to 2112 *do* display a breathtaking ignorance of the nature of Socialism. Being simultaneously a member of Amnesty International and a proponent of Rat Bastard Capitalsim (not that there's any other kind) *is* a screechifying contradiction. It's all coming together. Why didn't i listen to Eddie (and Robyn) while there was still time? While we still had a chance? How could I have been so foolish? In the immortal words of Lando Calrissian...well, i guess Lando never really said anything all *that* profound, did he? Nevertheless, I would like to make an announcement. viz., I, The Great Quail do hereby RENOUNCE Capitalism, and do hereby wholeheartedly EMBRACE Socialism. "An Injury To One Is An Injury To All!" Morever, as of Midnight, Eastern Standard Time, I release claim to all of my fourteen Ayn Rand Latchook-Rug kits. Yes, even the mural! They will be on my front lawn, free for the taking. But that's not all! Tomorrow morning --first thing, mind you-- I shall get the likeness of Bakunin tatooed on my left buttock and the likeness of Orwell on my right. In color, no less. Of you, my fellow Fegs, I ask only your forgiveness. I was a young Quail then. A drunken Quail. Clever, entertaining, enthusiastic, yes. But none too wise, as I've only now come to understand. I thank you for helping me through this time of transition. - --Quail - ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail, K.S.C. | Literature Site - The Libyrinth: TheQuail@cthulhu.microserve.com | www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth www.rpg.net/quail | Vampire Site - New York by Night: riverrun Discordian Society | www.rpg.net/quail/NYBN 73 De Chirico Street | Arkham, Orbis Tertius 2112-42 | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 19:04:49 -0500 From: Ner Subject: Re: Comfort food Worcestershire sauce on white bread. I called it a 'hot sandwich'. Ner (...must...have..."Odds...& Sods"...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:41:54 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: westies, quailomatics and retranslations >>this is just too hilarious! For those who haven't a clue what Danielle and >>I are talking about, West Auckland has something of, um, a reputation. >For the Brits out there, imagine if central Glasgow was crossed with Essex, >and you're probably getting pretty close. >> > >So all the blokes are drunk, kilt-wearing, ginger bearded louts, and all >the girls are blonde and stupid? (WAIT before you hit that 'reply' >button - I'm not Glasgowist or Essexist, and we certainly don't want a >thread about it!!). with the exception of the kilts, you're just about bang on. >Speaking of quaint, old-fashioned things, here's my new Quailomatic >setup. only gone from a day, and he';s been replaced by technology. And they call this carnival 'progress'... >There's an old famous story about taking the phrase "The spirit is >willing, but the flesh is weak" and translating it into Russian and back >(I've heard variations on this story with Japanese and Chinese as well). don't forget the British parliamentarian, the permanent secretary for energy, who was re-translated as "The ministry's immortal typist" James ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:43:34 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: still catching up >>has there been any dialogue about top 5 tributes on the list?<< not yet... and sorry, but I'm about to mention some New Zealand music (be warned!) God Save the Clean (The Clean) Abbasalutely (Abba!) Beat the Retreat (Richard Thompson) Also Used and Recovered By (*) Where the Pyramid meets the Eye (Roky Erickson) honourable mentions: Sgt Pepper Knew my Father (Beatles) Heaven & Hell (VU) If I were a Carpenter (Carpenters) I have yet to hear any of the several Leonard Cohen tributes in cuirculation, although the track listings look interesting. * AU&RB is a compilation of Australian bands doing covers of songs by other Australian bands. Standout tracks are Paul Kelly's version of Mental as Anything's "Reckless", and Weddings Parties Anything's cover of the Triffids' "Wide Open Road". Oh, and before Eb or someone mentions it Danielle - yes, I have said a couple of nice things about Dave Dobbyn's music on some other music lists. I suppose that he's not too bad overall, and he was just the first person whose name came to mind to insult. But the complete annotated works of Jon Stevens can definitely be consigned to Hades. >>Is it too outrageous to say that the more control the musician has over >>pitch and timbre, the more creative possibilities? I don't think it is. >>If we're talking about an instrument playing solo, you can add polyphony >>as a major consideration.<< it is possible to make a sweet sweet sound with instruments played monophonically as well. I cite the bass playing of Danny Thompson and John Entwistle as examples. In the latter case, the solo in "My Generation" and the amazing work in (oh damn - I've forgotten the song title... it's about the third or fourth track on "Who by Numbers") make my jaw drop and warm my torso like a glass of good port. >I have to second this...amazing performance...may literally drive you to >tears.<< ah, another list and discussion topic: are there any songs that have driven you to tears? (and not by being awful!) For their own sake, this is, rather than for any connection with real life events. me, I'd vote for Alison (Elvis Costello), No face no name no number (Traffic), Reasons for waiting (Jethro Tull), Song to the siren (This Mortal Coil). I've no idea why, but they have had this effect on me at some point in my life. Oh, and In My Life (Beatles) has come close. >>See, I'm a mathematician. I have this mental block. Exceptions disprove >>rules. Name a nonphysical quality that you say all women share and I will >>find a woman that doesn't have it. For me, that's where the argument >>ends. You say all women share it. I say "no, here's a counterexample" and >>the rule is thrown out. QED.<< as a mathematician you should realise that you are posing an unfair problem here. You are setting "all women share feature X" as a null hypothesis and then asking your opponent to try to prove it. I could say "all women live on Earth" and would not be able to prove it, as I would have to check the rest of the universe to be certain there were no exceptions. Scientific method denies the possibility of proving a null hypothesis. Furthermore, we aren't talking mathematics, we're talking psychology and sociology, where one exception doesn't necessarily 'disprove a rule' because they aren't so much rules as trends and predominances. Human nature defies absolute rules of these sorts. It would be fair to say, for instance, that most men regard themselves as primarily heterosexual. Is this sexist? Or is it a simple statement of fact? >>I don't think instincts have a whole lot to do with who we choose to have >>sex with. The idea that homosexuality is genetic is ludicrous because >>genetics are all about survival of the species and spreading of the >>individual's genetic material and homosexuality is, rather obviously, not >>about procreation.<< to suggest that homosexuality is instinctual does not automatically imply that it is genetic. Right handed parents often have left handed children. The reasons may be as simple and straightforwardly non-genetic as the exact concentrations of body chemicals present at specific times in a foetus or child's development, or the shape of particular brian structures (maybe caused by something as trivial as a mother sneezing during late pregnancy). No-one knows for certain what causes such personality differences. There is some controversial evidence that gay men may have soem brain structures that are marginally different to straight men, but we're talking tiny, tiny differences and the findings are very controversial and very sketchy. And they still wouldn't explain bisexuality. Oh spod - and I tried so hard not to get dragged into this tediously boring topic. (woop woop! non-PC alert!) >>The vast majority of people have sex with people to whom they are >>attracted, it's not a choice.<< lucky them... There are a lot of people I'm attracted to that I haven't had sex with :( >>I missed most of the Titnic thread first time around because I didn't >>want to read about it before I saw it. I'll comment now that I thought >>the movie was very good--much better I had expected, though it's quite >>frustrating when the whole middle section is out of focus, especially >>when there are naked breasts in the middle section. Shitty theater. << that must make your typo in the movie's title a wonderful Freudian slip... (alert over...) band vs solo: Soft Boys vs Robyn Hitchcock? (that should get 'em talking... and I've got my ObRH in!) James ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:35:24 EST From: MARKEEFE Subject: Driven to Tears (0% Police content) In a message dated 98-03-04 19:42:11 EST, James did write: << In My Life (Beatles) has come close. >> This one almost always gets me, and I'm not much of one for tearing up. In fact, just seeing it written in James' email and hearing, in my head, the faintest and briefest snippet from the song, I could feel something catching in my throat (BTW, anyone who suggests *what* might be caught in my throat or in any other way disparages the sincerity of my remark will be shot -- I could just see it coming, that's all; bunch of smart asses ;-)). Right, then. "In My Life" gets my vote for biggest tear-jerker of all-time. - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:11:00 +0800 From: "Baker, David(KWI-C09)" Subject: RE: Driven to Tears (0% Police content) >In a message dated 98-03-04 19:42:11 EST, James did write: > ><< In My Life (Beatles) has come close. >> > > This one almost always gets me, and I'm not much of one for tearing up. >In fact, just seeing it written in James' email and hearing, in my head, the >faintest and briefest snippet from the song, I could feel something catching >in my throat (BTW, anyone who suggests *what* might be caught in my throat or >in any other way disparages the sincerity of my remark will be shot -- I could >just see it coming, that's all; bunch of smart asses ;-)). Right, then. "In >My Life" gets my vote for biggest tear-jerker of all-time. I'd have to give my vote to 'Days' by The Kinks. Somehow, it is also extremely uplifting at the same time, such is the magic of Davies at his peak. Dave Alcoa of Australia Ltd ACN 004 879 298 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:14:06 -0500 From: "Hallucinogenic Woodpecker" Subject: Re: Nick Cave, Dave Matthews > Can somebody out there who knows tell me why I should pick up Dave Matthew's > "Under the Table and Dreaming" or Nick Cave's "Murder Ballads"? Sorry, no RH > content whatsoever... The Dave Matthews' CD "Under the Table and Dreaming" is certainly better than the newest release "Crash." It offers some great acoustic jams mixed with a few "harder" songs. I simply enjoy it for the fact that the band uses a variety of instruments, which I admire. "Murder Ballads" is an excellent CD. Many Cave fans jumped on the bandwagon saying that he sold out when this CD came out. I tend to think that this falls under the category of how an artist can "grow" over his or her career. Sure, "Murder Ballads" is completely different from anything Cave has ever done. But, at some point, an artist needs to move on and experiment. (:Maybe not, remember the whole discussion about Robyn? I think this CD has a lot to offer. There is no deception in the title; all the songs are ballads, and about murder. There is even a Dylan cover, 'Death is Not the End'. I suggest that you pick it up. "Boatman's Call" is another great one. If you don't feel anything after listening to it, I venture to say that you are not human. Just my thought. Meditating violently, Hallucinogenic Woodpecker #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#* You and me.......what does that mean? Always.......what does that mean? Forever......what does that mean? It means we'll manage. -Tricky From the desk of, Hallucinogenic Woodpecker ,,, /'^'\ ( o o ) - --------------------------------oOOO--(_)--OOOo-------------------- e-mail: trentd@claynet.com #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:22:13 -0800 (PST) From: "Chris, the missing years." Subject: Re: the 80's, as they are, not were. > > But what about the car? :-) > > C-mon, all us that were preadolescent boys in the 80's > remember KITT.! > Of course, this bring up my favorite cultural description of the town I live in currently, but it also brings up Miami Vice, to boot. The current cultural complex that is Reno, Nevada can be properly describe by the fact that the said town's cultural capacity is some where between Miami Vice and Knightrider. That is, to be sure, there are far too many men standing around, half-shaven and in tacky clothing, talking to their cars, and expecting that the car will tell them what to do. "If you think I said that to be cute or funny, you're dead wrong." .chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:11:42 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Nick Cave, Dave Matthews > "Murder Ballads" is an excellent CD. Many Cave fans jumped on the >bandwagon saying that he sold out when this CD came out. I tend to think >that this falls under the category of how an artist can "grow" over his or >her career. Sure, "Murder Ballads" is completely different from anything >Cave has ever done. But, at some point, an artist needs to move on and >experiment. How do you figure it's "moving on," "growing," "experimental" and "completely different" when all Cave did was narrow the focus of his songwriting to a specific area which he had already explored thoroughly? Murder Ballads remains in the cellar of my Cave collection, down there with the similarly narrow The Firstborn Is Dead and The Boatman's Call. As for Dave Matthews.... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:22:03 +0000 From: "Charles Gillett" Subject: Re: well and truly dead, on tour this summer On Wed, 04 Mar 1998 11:13:33 PST "Capitalism Blows" wrote: > >The result was "The meat's gone rotten, but the vodka's good." > > now, this is the part that still *doesn't* make sense to me. if you've > got some sort of black box --in this case, alta vista's babel fish-- > that performs the opposite operation translating back into the original > language, then, i can't see why you wouldn't end up with your original > phrase. and unless you spoke both languages fluently, you wouldn't be > any the wiser. For what it's worth, here's what babelfish has to say about "The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak." English->French->English: The spirit is laid out, but the flesh is weak. English->Spanish->English: The alcohol is arranged, but the meat is weak. English->Portuguese->English: The spirit is made use, but the meat is weak. English->German->English: The spirit is ready, but the flesh is weak. English->Italian->English: The spirit is arranged, but the meat is weak person. Spanish wins the incomprehensibility contest. ObRobyn: Prawns. - -- Charles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:47:10 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: babelfish >> now, this is the part that still *doesn't* make sense to me. if you've >> got some sort of black box --in this case, alta vista's babel fish-- >> that performs the opposite operation translating back into the original >> language, then, i can't see why you wouldn't end up with your original >> phrase. and unless you spoke both languages fluently, you wouldn't be >> any the wiser. I ran my Longet page through that Altavista demon, pulling the English to French to English ploy...pretty funny. I think my favorite goofs were "fans" (as in "fan club") being turned into "ventilators," and the phrase "She's so goddamn great" being turned into "She is thus goddamn large." :) Eb, still oohing and aahing after renting "Crumb" a few days ago ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 20:58:35 +2910 From: dlang Subject: Crumb Eb coo'd: "Eb, still oohing and aahing after renting "Crumb" a few days ago" Isn't that a great movie. I love Crumb, he just lets out all his obsessions in his work, but I tell you ,his brothers are even weirder than he is ! Anyone out there ever see the BBC documentary on Monsieur Robert ? this was also very good too, but Crumb definitely has the edge. Dave( Mr Conspiracy Theory ) Lang ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 20:43:37 +2910 From: dlang Subject: Re: Mea Culpa-*Quail exposed!!!!* The quail announced: Nevertheless, I would like to make an announcement. viz., I, The Great Quail do hereby RENOUNCE Capitalism, and do hereby wholeheartedly EMBRACE Socialism. This is of no surprise to me, I post here part of the Quails missive to myself where he freely admits to being a Communist agent; "I would like to extend enthusiastic salutations from the People's Republic of Quailonia,We are pleased that you have dealt with these forces of counter-revolution in the most expedient -- and lasting -- fashion.The sovereignty of our states will not be terrorized by such elements, and your swift actions have set a shining example to us all! and the peoples of the Soviet of Lower Cheeponia have asked me to extend their most sincere gratitude." I was keeping these files to use against the Quail at the appropriate moment in the future when I reveal him to the world as an evil fiend mastermind , instead of the mild mannnered ,warm and fuddly moderator that he appears to us all on this list. In fact , I believe that this post is a futile attempt to cover his ass by pretending to be a mere socialist ,( instead of a hard core Albanian style *Red under the bed* that he really is),before he gets sprung by my good self and turned in to the Brain Police. Using his departure to SF as a chance to case his residence , I hopped on a plane to the states right sharpish and gave it the once over. I have seen his record collection and far from the shelves being chock full of "Rushs greatest Hits" Jethro Dull and Yessh, they are groaning under the wieght of such vinyl beauties as " 50 Golden Greats from the Gulag", " Those we have Liquidated", " Killer Hits from the K.G.B " , "Jack boots in the Night" and "Lubianka Lullabies". The wardrobe is a revelation, leather coats, peaked caps and a collection of pens , lapel buttons and shoe heels that would make James Bond envious, such is the plethora of micro devices and weapons contained within.I have the polaroids on my website if you would like to see proof. Try www.pinko sub.net.au and revel in the exposure within. Try and worm your way out of this one Commissar Quailovitch, heh, heh, heh Dave (asio ) Lang. Ps; I know the quails message did not issue from his normal address and this *could*be someone masquerading as the Quail, but isnt it more likely that this is a mere ruse to make us think that this is the case, oh the machinations of his machiavellian mind!!!!!!THE FIEND ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:55:49 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Crumb On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, dlang wrote: > Eb coo'd: > "Eb, still oohing and aahing after renting "Crumb" a few days ago" > Isn't that a great movie. I love Crumb, he just lets out all his > obsessions in his work, but I tell you ,his brothers are even weirder > than he is ! Crumb was darn good. I watched it late one night on Showtime or something. Very well made and all. I can't say I've ever been a big fan of his work, but that's far from the point. I enjoyed the movie quite a bit. And that problem of his brother's? The one that dies... the one that lives with his mother... isn't that the same thing Syd Barrett developed? Like the same psychosis and such? I always thought it was the same disease. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:40:35 +0000 (GMT) From: "BENJAMIN.BRETTENNY" Subject: Re: Re[3]: Blur On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, amadain wrote: > > > Although Robyn is indeed 'jangly' and does on occasion sing about > >fish i think its a tad unfair to suggest that the only way he could > >possibly influence another group or artist is in these two areas. > > You are of course completely right. But since these are two "externals" > that people seem to pick up on right away, it's only natural that people > might mention them first. > > >I think it was fair to say that blur are influenced by hitchcock to a > >degree, >they both have a very 'english' sound > > So do the Kinks, Martin Newell, Pulp, The Jam, and Noel Coward, to name > five that came readily to mind, and I could think of others probably if I > gave it time. I doubt that they're all influenced by RH or each other, at > any rate it would be difficult to prove (in Sir Noel's case I think we can > safely say that there is no Kinks influence, Bhowever :)). I mention Noel > Coward because, though not a rawk star per se (only in a very very broad > sense :)), he is also -very- English, and had a certain nostalgic love for > Brittania that seemed constantly in conflict with his mischievous > satirist's eye, and this reminds me quite strongly of a fellow named Davies > who has a similar bent. So I -could- if I wanted say that -everyone- was > influenced by Noel Coward just as easily. My point is that, while I'm not > dismissing the possibility outright, IMHO influences are damn tricky to > pinpoint and very easily confused with commonalities. > I agree, but the examples you used to descibe an 'english' sound are much further away from the sound of Hitchcock than Blur. It is unlikely in my mind that The Jam, who are near contemparies of Hitchcock, abeit when he was a softboy were influenced by Hitchcock and common sense tells us that The Kinks and Coward are definetly not influenced by him, although stranger things have happened and they may well be fans of the great man you never know , i can quite feasably imagine Noel having a boogie to 'old pervert' ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #92 ******************************