From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #90 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, March 4 1998 Volume 07 : Number 090 Today's Subjects: ----------------- attack on Mick [dwdudic@erols.com (luther)] Gloss Fish [Terrence M Marks ] Re: High Fidelity [Eb ] nonl [dwdudic@erols.com (luther)] Re: More politics. (a sermon) [MARKEEFE ] Re: what's yer fave condiment? [sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain)] 0% David Soul content [Eb ] Re: 0% David Soul content [Tom Clark ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #89 [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dig] sexism [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: imho & btw [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Crocodile tears [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] comfort food [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: 0% David Soul content [Eb ] Re: fever pitch [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: 0% David Soul content [sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain)] one last time! [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: simple machines fest [Ner ] Re: 4 postings is just too damn many. [Ner ] Translating fool [Capuchin ] Jamie Walters buys an album... [Tom Clark ] Re: More politics. (a sermon) [Ner ] scrabblism? [Capuchin ] re: comfort food [tanter ] Re: xtc [Noe Shalev ] "Glass Flesh" ["Helen Percival" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #89 (ZIP, null, no RH Content) [Ed.Doxtator@ssa.c] Re: scrabblism? [Bayard ] Re: simple machines fest [Aaron Mandel ] Comfort food [Jim Moore ] painfully sexist [Jim Moore ] Spicy girls'n'guys [Ross Overbury ] comfort food [firstcat@lsli.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 22:09:40 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (luther) Subject: attack on Mick On Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:01:14 -0500 (EST), you wrote: > >Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 12:09:15 PST >From: "Capitalism Blows" >Subject: Re: ps > >act like the Spice Girls. See how many times *they* make the cover of >Rolling Stone.> >um, i thought mick jagger was the all-time leader in Rolling Stone cover >appearances. ...And he's done it in drag, too! (Since he jumps on every trend there is... But Charlie Watts is cool! Just smiling along in the back, playing his drums. (as long as you don't put your arm around him in a photo, fo rthat would make you "Trash" and a loser. :-) )\ -luther w dudich ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:02:06 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Gloss Fish 1) Gloss Fish will be delayed a little while because a) some of the last-minute submissions need another minute. b) my roommate has taken ill, and has retreated to Northern Florida, with our computer. 2) I'm looking to get a new computer. Can any of you recommend a website that cuts through all the pointless obfuscation/hyping? (I don't care for any of the "anything below $2000 is crap" attitude I've encountered at some of the more market-driven sites, nor do I care to browse through ten pages detailing the differences between identical systems assembled by different companies.) Any advice (please?) Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:02:35 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: High Fidelity Jay quoted: >Hitchcock's biggest hit to date came >in the form of "So You Think You're In Love" from 1991's >Perspex Island. Bigger than "Balloon Man"? Is that true? Jeez, that song always has been strictly an also-ran with me. Capuchin wrote: >> The main character also has an Elvis Costello fixation, a >> record collection that is so huge it's getting to be a physical problem, >> and a miserable love life. (no his name is not Eb) > >Man, I must be pretty sick because I thought his love life was pretty OK. >Just that one big problem with that one girlfriend... and an overall >problem with adulthood. > >I mean, I could chalk all of his love-life problems up to a certain >immaturity, but I'm sure an outsider could chalk up all of mine to one >thing like that as easily. Ummm...there is an antecedent problem with the above response that rather bothers me. ;) Then he/she wrote: >The idea that homosexuality is genetic is ludicrous because >genetics are all about survival of the species and spreading of the >individual's genetic material and homosexuality is, rather obviously, not >about procreation. Oh lordy, lordy, lordy...let's not open THAT can of worms.... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 22:13:37 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (luther) Subject: nonl On Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:01:14 -0500 (EST), you wrote: > >Which reminds me-- feglist newcomer and richard thompson fan Luther Dudich >and his band NUMBER NINE LINE are playing a gig this friday at Funk's >democratic coffee house in Baltimore. Scottish feg Stewart Russell will >be there and so will I. Anyone else want to check out a local fegband, >have a cuppa and play some scrabble (robyn related words only!) > >=b Yup, we ARE playing then. Probably recording the show too. So, if any feg are around fells point early evening Friday, come on by, get entertained (with songs about Desmond Morris, trains, cancelled TV shows, and the Loch Ness Monster's vacation), but be prepared to sing "Uncorrected Personality Traits." :-) -luther ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:11:14 EST From: MARKEEFE Subject: Re: More politics. (a sermon) In a message dated 98-03-03 13:02:18 EST, you write: << I don't think instincts have a whole lot to do with who we choose to have sex with. The idea that homosexuality is genetic is ludicrous because genetics are all about survival of the species and spreading of the individual's genetic material and homosexuality is, rather obviously, not about procreation. >> Well, there are theories about this which would contradict your opinion. Some anthropologists believe that there was a necessity for more gatherers than hunters, so the gay men would stay home with the women (all of the women, presumably, including the lesbian women). I don't know if I buy into this, but it's another slant on things. Also, considering the fact that we've overpopulated the planet, perhaps having 10% of the population (more or less) not into having sexual relations that would lead to procreation would help the survival of the species. Of course, as we approach (or have we already passed?) the 6 billion marker, it's pretty clear that there are simply too many heterosxuals around mucking up the planet with their offspring. - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:45:45 -0600 (CST) From: sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain) Subject: Re: what's yer fave condiment? >terrence: > >> You want to talk about sexism? Take five guys and have them dress and >> act like the Spice Girls. See how many times *they* make the cover of >> Rolling Stone. > >er, did ratt ever make the cover of rolling stone? there weren't five of >motley crue, were there... Heh. There is a long version and a short version of -my- reply to Terrence. The short version is: What do you think the -Monkees- were supposed to be? *grin* The long(er) version is that there are -guy- versions of this act all over the place. There's a -long- history of it with both sexes. I mean, whatever one might think of their subsequent work, the Monkees were originally conceived as something similar (check out the back of, I think it's "headquarters", that gives hair and eye color and heights &c, with the photos). The marketing and "positioning" that takes place is of course somewhat different, because well, there's a certain tradition of "displaying" women's bodies that something like the Spice Girls exploits and plays into, and like it or not the concept of displaying males as sex objects in the same way is just not as strongly rooted in the culture. Usually when a male or group is present as something similar (e.g., marketed for sex appeal) there is almost -always- a tremendous attempt to convince us they are "real musicians" (witness Jamie Walters, David Hasselhof) and said phenoms usually try very hard to -learn- instruments if they don't already play one, or talk a lot about their singing technique and/or voice lessons and/or "voice maintenance" (witness Jack Wagner). In other words, they -and- the marketing department are very concerned that we the listening public think of them as more than sex objects and take them seriously as something other than pinups, whereas with a group like a Spice Girls there's minimal concern about such issues because women who are there mostly for display are a lot more "OK" culturally-speaking. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it :). Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:41:34 -0700 From: Eb Subject: 0% David Soul content Susan wrote: >The Monkees were originally >conceived as something similar (check out the back of, I think it's >"headquarters", that gives hair and eye color and heights &c, with the >photos). It was the self-titled debut, not Headquarters (the third album). And Susan, need I remind you that the back covers of You Really Got Me, Kinks-Size AND Kinda Kinks all present variations on this teenybopper meet-the-band theme? ;) >(witness Jamie Walters, David Hasselhoff) I'd rather not, if you don't mind. >(witness Jack Wagner) Ditto. I think this is where someone steps in to defend Ricky Nelson.... Oddly & sodily, Eb (did you know that Walters actually covered a Graham Parker song on his first album?) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 98 16:21:54 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: 0% David Soul content On 3/3/98 2:41 PM, Eb wrote: >Eb (did you know that Walters actually covered a Graham Parker song on his >first album?) I don't know who Jamie Walters is, and ordinarily I wouldn't want to. But, being a Graham Parker buff, I need to know if his name has been debased in any way. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:43:18 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #89 >You want to talk about sexism? Take five guys and have them dress and >act like the Spice Girls. See how many times *they* make the cover of >Rolling Stone. ah! someone here remembers Boney M! ;) JAmes ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:37:17 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: sexism <> that all depends. How does he feel about men? James (using the long handled spoon) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:38:58 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: imho & btw did anyone add ROTFL: rolling on the floor laughing LOL: laughed out loud LSMIWM: laughed so much I wet myself OTOH: on the other hand OLOT: our lady of toast UJ: Union Jack S&S: stars and stripes LOB: "Logo on a bedheet" (i.e. very boring single colour flags with a small design in the centre. e.g., most US state flags) S&M/B&D: silly and magnificent, brilliant and deranged (a description of many of the posts in Fegmaniax!) WATNEY: weak, and tasting nastier every year ALITALIA: Aircraft landing in Tokyo, all luggage in Amsterdam IBM: Internet-buggering mechanism BBC: Bring back "Crackerjack!" James (national vice-president of COCOA, the Council to Outlaw Contrived and Outrageous Acronyms) ObEb: I wonder if he's got a sister called Flo... James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:37:21 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Crocodile tears >James, James, James. Are you trying to tell me (after you recently >called most of Dave Dobbyn's work a 'pile of dung', no less!) that the >MOR bollocks Jenny Morris has released since the demise of the >Crocodiles is anywhere *near* the glorious boppy-singalong-pop calibre >of 'New Girl on the Beat' or 'Tears'? More successful, yes, but better? >Um, no. Just plain no. I'll give you 'You I Know', but Neil Finn wrote >it, and c'mon, 'Break in the Weather'? Yeeesh. I *like* "Break in the weather", and "Zero" foir that matter, but yes, there were some very good songs from the Crocodiles (you forgot "Well hello girl" and "Telephone lover"). Still, I'd rate her solo work higher. As for DD, he's one of these rare instances where his work is either crap or excellent. most is a pile of doodoos, but the stand-out tracks most definitely are standouts. "Outlook for Thursday", "Maybe the Rain", "Shaky Isles", excellent stuff. Would you feel happier if I blast Jon Stevens out of the water :) or Mark Williams :)) or Ray Woolf :))) James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:37:19 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: comfort food I sent this to Karen, but I might as well pester the list as well. >But what do folks raised in New Zealand or Canada or >Texas like? > >Fellow fegs, what is YOUR particular comfort food favorite? I don't care >if it seems odd or not. I know someone who used to eat cat food when they >were little. > >This may or may not be published on my web page. > >You can email me personally if you like. >It's amazing what you can learn about someone by their eating habits. > > >Karen >prepared for the barrage of prawns, tomatoes and possibly "toast!" >submissions..... well, you won't hear anything tomato from me (it would put me in hospital, or potentially worse, thanks to a nice mild allergy...). BUT if comfort food means what I think it means, then pancakes (that's flapjacks to you), bacon & eggs, or possibly a trip down to the local fish & chip shop is in order. Now for a ferw more details: Pancakes: in NZ, maple syrup and cream is a possible topping, but lemon juice and sugar is more likely. Bacon & Eggs: Crisp bacon, with a fried egg served on a piece of toast, and fried mushroom and spring onion. Not exactly health food. Fish & Chips: a peculiarly British phenomenon, but copmmon in NZ. Two fish, deep fried in batter, with chips (um, french fries), and maybe a pineapple fritter (pineapple ring fried in batter. Yum!) Then of course there are the traditional bags of munchies: like crisps (= chips), in flavours very alien to Americans: salt & vinegar; seafood and lemon; chicken. Add in a bag of licorice, and a nice cuppa tea (or a can of 7-up, or chocolate flavoured milk) and I'm happy. Don't know if that's exactly what you're looking for, but I hope it helps! James ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:42:10 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: 0% David Soul content >On 3/3/98 2:41 PM, Eb wrote: > >>Eb (did you know that Walters actually covered a Graham Parker song on his >>first album?) > >I don't know who Jamie Walters is, and ordinarily I wouldn't want to. >But, being a Graham Parker buff, I need to know if his name has been >debased in any way. He was a regular on Beverly Hills 90210 for a time, playing Tori Spelling's troubled blue-collar boyfriend Ray. Try searching the Music Boulevard site or something, and you can find a track listing of his album. I got rid of my copy ages ago. The album wasn't ALL that bad, actually.... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:46:39 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fever pitch >Actually, the best book I've read was also by him. He must be the master >of obsessions, as he's covered both mine now, music in _High_ and >football in _Fever Pitch_ (my fav., though I've read both). Though it's >hard to forgive him for writing such a good and insiteful book about >Arsenal! :) (I know someone on this list is gonna hate me for that >one...:) oh yes - guess who! :) I don't know - these damn Manure United fans... ;) Fever Pitch is a great book "loosely adapted" into one of the best movies of the last couple of years, too. Ah, 1989. Nice one, Michael Thomas! James ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:41:48 -0600 (CST) From: sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain) Subject: Re: 0% David Soul content >>(witness Jamie Walters, David Hasselhoff) > >I'd rather not, if you don't mind. > >>(witness Jack Wagner) > >Ditto. > >I think this is where someone steps in to defend Ricky Nelson.... Eh. I was merely making a point about how vociferously these particular fellows defended their claims to so-called "musicianship" when everyone knew what they were really there for. It was never my intention to present them for serious consideration :) >Oddly & sodily, >Eb (did you know that Walters actually covered a Graham Parker song on his >first album?) NO, I did not. Good gads! Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:06:14 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: one last time! >Westie isn't a location -or- a state of mind, it's a very charming breed of >terrier. this is just too hilarious! For those who haven't a clue what Danielle and I are talking about, West Auckland has something of, um, a reputation. For the Brits out there, imagine if central Glasgow was crossed with Essex, and you're probably getting pretty close. James np: Jan Hellriegel - Westy Girls ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 00:15:24 -0500 From: Ner Subject: Re: simple machines fest wojs of mass destruction exploded: > which reminds me: any of you yahoos going to be at any of the simple > machines goodbye bash gigs the weekend of march 25th? i'm driving down from > connecticut (hopefully catching sleater-kinney at the trocadero in > philadelphia on the way down thursday night since i'll miss them in nyc on > friday). would be nice to meet more fegs if there is convergence. I don't know anything about the simple machines - who are they? What can you tell me about them? I'm not familiar with sleater-kinney either - can anyone help me out here? I'm walking distance from the Trocadero so I'm curious about whether or not I should check 'em out. - -Ner the Woman Loving Sexist ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 23:23:58 -0500 From: Ner Subject: Re: 4 postings is just too damn many. The Great Quail wrote: > Thank you! You have, of course, uncovered my secret plans to cook and eat > you all. (Haven't you wondered where Jay and Glen are?) I have already > made up special cooking instructions depending on how I think you would > all taste. Eb, for instance, will be served in a burrito to better > accomadoate his spicy tang. You have already sussed your fate; Bayard > gets a lovingly prepared fondue and barbecue, and Tom Clark gets > fermented, brewed, and bottled at a local microbrewery along with some > Tews Stew. I haven't yet decided what to do with that Gloster fellow, I'm > afraid he may be like Fugu. I fear he could be labelled a controlled > substance. . . . Wot!? With a gammy leg???? Eeugghhh! - -Ner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:32:59 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Translating fool On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Capitalism Blows wrote: > so that's all very funny. but here's what i don't get about this whole > translating into one language and then back into the original. it seems > like it should be...ok, like when you square a number and then take the > square root, you end up back with the same number again. why shouldn't > it be the same for languages? You speak French, don't you? I would think you'd have your own answer for this. See, numbers are sensible. Words are not. Different languages were not designed to be compatible. There is no one-to-one relationship between a word in one language with a word in another... it gets worse when you throw in differences in grammar. There's an old famous story about taking the phrase "The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak" and translating it into Russian and back (I've heard variations on this story with Japanese and Chinese as well). The result was "The meat's gone rotten, but the vodka's good." It's all kind of sensible when you think about it, it just comes out funky on the other side. Very few things translate directly and a double translation leaves you double damned. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 98 17:21:59 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Jamie Walters buys an album... On 3/3/98 3:42 PM, Eb wrote: >(did you know that Walters actually covered a Graham Parker song on his >first album?) Turns out it's a song called "Release Me", which I can't find on any GP discs. >The album wasn't ALL that bad, actually.... Probably because he didn't write it or produce it, and he barely plays on it. From the CDNow web site - describing his debut album (in '94). Second chart-topping album hit the shelves in '97 (but we all knew that...): - ----- Begin Ass Sucking ----- Personnel: Jamie Walters (vocals, guitar, harmonica), Michael Landau (acoustic & electric guitars), Dean Parks (electric guitar), Bob Mann (guitar), Zachary Throne (guitar, Hammond B-3, bass, percussion, background vocals), Mike Finnegan (Hammond B-3), Guy Moon (keyboards), Kevin Savigar (keyboards, percussion), Leland Sklar, John Pierce (bass), Gary Mallaber (drums, percussion, background vocals), Russ Kunkel (drums, percussion), Roy Campanella III (programming). Background vocals: Marlena Jeter, Mortonette Jenkins, Alex Brown, Steve Tyrell, Merry Clayton, Dee Harvey, Barry Coffing. Recorded at Tyrell Studios, Los Angeles, California. All songs written or co-written by Stephanie Tyrell except "Why" (Jamie Walters/Zachary Thorne), "Release Me" (Graham Parker), "Neutral Ground" and "Rhyme, No Reason" (Randall Bramblett/Davis Causey). First of all, there's the fact that he's a television heartthrob (does 90210 ring a bell?). Second of all, he's an accomplished singer/songwriter (does the smash hit "How Do You Talk To An Angel" ring a bell?). And lastly, he's got some of the coolest sideburns in show business (do James Dean, Elvis Presley, or Walters' own TV co-stars ring a bell?). With all these bells going off, its no surprise to find Jamie Walters' self-titled debut quite an agreeable effort. JAMIE WALTERS is filled with the kind of pop-rock ditties that would set any teenage girl's heart aflutter. Yet the songs are substantial enough to win over a big sister, and accessible enough to draw in a parent or two. In addition, a number of Walters' musical decisions--most notably, his cover of cool guy Graham Parker's "Release Me" and the choice of Dr. John for eerie background vocals--demonstrate that he has far more nerve than most TV stars that enter a recording studio. Jamie Walters is poised to be a big pop star, and as he displays on the emotional "Hold On," he has the soul to pull it off. - ----- End Ass Sucking ----- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 01:10:28 -0500 From: Ner Subject: Re: More politics. (a sermon) I love women more than I love men with or without armpit hair - doesn't matter, I'll take whatever parts are included - but I love sex more than I love either. Yum Yum!!! - -Ner (S.A.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:10:24 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: scrabblism? On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Bayard wrote: > Anyone else want to check out a local fegband, > have a cuppa and play some scrabble (robyn related words only!) Ok, I don't know no local fegbands and I'm not a big coffee drinker, but I'm up for that last bit. Karen? Carole? Remember that Scrabble board I got for Christmas and dragged to your house after receiving? It's still thoroughly uninitiated! I've played Scrabble maybe twice since Christmas and always at someone else's place. So Portland Fegs, bone up on your lyrics and stories and think hard about crustacea. I think we should play Feg-Scrabble! John? Michael? Kids? J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 23:28:41 -0500 From: tanter Subject: re: comfort food >I have a few: oreos and milk, toast with marg and jam (pref. strawberry), >Cadbury's mini-eggs, a nice cup of mango tea or strong British tea with a >chocolate digestive (British wheat cookie)! > >Marcy > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:41:00 +0200 (IST) From: Noe Shalev Subject: Re: xtc how 'bout English settelment? i think it's thier greatest and of course the whole dukes of stratospher recordings. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 03:30:23 PST From: "Helen Percival" Subject: "Glass Flesh" Hi everyone, I would just like to say that i bought the album "Glass Flesh" last saturday. Thanks to everyone who wrote to me about it!!! I like it, except some of it. Thanks! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:38:22 +0000 From: Ed.Doxtator@ssa.co.uk Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #89 (ZIP, null, no RH Content) Terry Marks pointed out: >You want to talk about sexism? Take five guys and have them dress and >act like the Spice Girls. See how many times *they* make the cover of >Rolling Stone. I disagree! What about Zappa and The Mothers on the cover of "We're Only In It For The Money"? They wore dresses! (It's not quite "Rolling Stone", I suppose...) Actually, Terry's right. Further, because I have too much time on my hands, I noticed how the images of the individual Spice Girls are marketed: 1. There's a posh one, so it's cool for girls to have money and want nice things. 2. There's a sporty one, so it's cool to be athletic and take care of your body and be interested in competition. 3. There's a ginger one, so it's cool to be the target of ridicule-- red heads get a lot of grief here in the UK, something I still don't understand. 4. There's a baby one, so it's cool to be young, free, etc. 5. There's a scary one, so it's cool to stand your ground, use force to get what you want, win through intimidation, etc. But there's no No Brainy Spice. No Smart Spice. No Intelligent Spice. So, it's NOT cool for girls to have an IQ higher than that of her boyfriend. Remember, girls, you'll never land a footballer or get interviewed on "The O-Zone" or have your picture on the cover of "Rolling Stone" if you show any signs of intelligence... ...sigh... :::soapbox mode ::: Look after yerselves. - -Doc n.p. Warm Jets, "Future Signs" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:14:17 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: scrabblism? On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Capuchin wrote: > Portland Fegs, bone up on your lyrics and stories and think hard about > crustacea. I think we should play Feg-Scrabble! You might want to grab more letters than usual if you want to limit yourself to robynisms. what other games can we twist in this manner? And whatever happened to the "Magic-ish" Robyn card game? Speak up, fegs of the coast... =b ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:36:56 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: simple machines fest On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Ner wrote: > I don't know anything about the simple machines - who are they? What > can you tell me about them? um er they're a record label that's closing down. most of the bands they've put out records by that are still around will be at the party. i'm going to regret not having seen it, but it's a ways to go for a $35 weekend festival thing. a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:43:00 -0600 From: Jim Moore Subject: Comfort food Bass ale and Sour Patch Kids The Guambat ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:53:00 -0600 From: Jim Moore Subject: painfully sexist >But to choose one >whole section of the population >and say "You are not suitable for my >romantic or sexual involvement!", >that is painfully sexist. Reality is painfully sexist. Salma Hayek is painfully sexy. I am now a sexist pain. The Guambat ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 98 10:53:21 EST From: Ross Overbury Subject: Spicy girls'n'guys Ed sed: > > Actually, Terry's right. Further, because I have too much time on my > hands, I noticed how the images of the individual Spice Girls are marketed: > [description of the roles of the various spice girls snipped] > But there's no No Brainy Spice. No Smart Spice. No Intelligent Spice. > So, it's NOT cool for girls to have an IQ higher than that of her > boyfriend. Remember, girls, you'll never land a footballer or get > interviewed on "The O-Zone" or have your picture on the cover of "Rolling > Stone" if you show any signs of intelligence... So who's the brainy Backstreet Boy? It's not so much reflection of sexism as a reflection of the lack of value placed on intellect in general by pop culture. What do scientists look like in cartoons? How about librarians? And why would the girls rather "land a footballer" than a chess champ? Yum yum, - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 98 10:05:32 From: firstcat@lsli.com Subject: comfort food fries with brown gravy and caso (cheese) or chili cheese burgers with chili cheese fries and a Coke - ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall Channel Sales Director Livermore Software Laboratories, Intl. 2825 Wilcrest, Suite 160 Houston, Texas 77042-3358 1-713-974-3274 jay@lsli.com Date: 3/4/98 - ------------------------------------- Two-Hour Luxury Goods Commercial Also A Spy Film ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #90 ******************************