From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #65 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, February 19 1998 Volume 07 : Number 065 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: That song [HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-UnitedKingdom-om4.om.hp.com] Re: that song! (fwd) [M R Godwin ] Re: Vocal gymnastics (contains RH content) [M R Godwin ] Re: Did someone say... j-cards? (another mac question) [Tom Clark ] Ooops, sorry (j-cards) ["JH3" ] Re: Vinyl Hitchcock ["Capitalism Blows" ] Followup - J-Cards & Canvas [Tom Clark ] how I nearly drowned [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Jackson, Fegmonomicon, Hamlet, & flippant Somewhere Apart and Last Temptation comments [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz] re: bitter feelings [tanter ] Re: Elvis and George. [sdodge@acs.popmail.uchicago.edu (amadain)] Re: Let's Hear You Sing A Song [sdodge@acs.popmail.uchicago.edu (amadain] Re: Falco [Aaron Lowe ] Re: more bitter robyn [sdodge@acs.popmail.uchicago.edu (amadain)] Re: Let's Hear You Sing A Song [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] A last word on "debilking"? [Nick Winkworth ] Village Voice poll [Eb ] Re: Village Voice poll [sdodge@acs.popmail.uchicago.edu (amadain)] Richard and Hamlet (0 RH) [Jon Fetter ] Re: Positive Vibrations [Noah Shalev ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 08:15:13 +0000 From: HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-UnitedKingdom-om4.om.hp.com Subject: RE: That song Mike, Is it "My Evaline" perchance? (H) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:47:49 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: that song! (fwd) On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Bayard wrote: > Is it by any chance "My Eveline"? That's the one I was thinking of. But I'm now having doubts, as research has shown that the Marx Brothers song was 'Sweet Adeline', not 'Eveline'. It's a very similar song, anyway... Dialogue goes as follows: "Captain, there are four stowaways on board" "How do you know there were four of them?" "They were singing the harmonies to 'Sweet Adeline'! " The next scene cuts to them in barrels singing the chorus. - - Mike (wrong again) Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 13:00:42 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Vocal gymnastics (contains RH content) On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Eb wrote: > Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. You blast Sgt. Pepper and now call the Four > Seasons "magic"? Lord, give me strength. ;) Chacun a son gout. And I forgot 'You Ready Now' which was a catchy _solo_ hit for Valli. I grant you that the Four Seasons are not in the McCoys / Standells league, but they're pretty good. I woke up in the middle of the night with another really weird voice in my head - it turned out to be David Surkamp of Pavlov's Dog, singing 'Fat Gun'. Did you ever hear them? Very good if a mite pretentious. Getting back to the RH vocal technique, I remember him doing a pre-Glastonbury solo show in '87 where he was trying out 'Devil Mask', and he just wasn't hitting the high note on 'Through with YOU, yeah yeah yeah'. And once you've heard him go wrong on that, every subsequent performance sounds pretty strained as well. - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 98 21:12:37 From: firstcat@lsli.com Subject: Re: Marxisme, tendence Groucho Its the song Groucho sings on the lake in Horsefeathers - --- On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:04:26 PST Elizabeth Morgan wrote: > >>>>> Hmm... I was going to say "Vyrna Knowl is a Headbanger," but I >guess >>>it's "A >>>>> Most Peculiar Voice," isn't it? > >>>"We Like Bananas"? Or has someone already guessed that? > >>My guess is "Everyone says I Love You" > >Huh? I know the the first 3 songs, but when did the Soft Boys do >"Everyone says I Love You"? Can someone post the lyrics? My imagination >is running wild! > >Elizabeth > >______________________________________________________ - -----------------End of Original Message----------------- - ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall Channel Sales Director Livermore Software Laboratories, Intl. 2825 Wilcrest, Suite 160 Houston, Texas 77042-3358 1-713-974-3274 jay@lsli.com Date: 2/18/98 - ------------------------------------- Two-Hour Luxury Goods Commercial Also A Spy Film ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 98 21:38:50 From: firstcat@lsli.com Subject: de Chirico for those interested alt.binaries.clip-art has a flood of de Chirico paintings posted today. - ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall Channel Sales Director Livermore Software Laboratories, Intl. 2825 Wilcrest, Suite 160 Houston, Texas 77042-3358 1-713-974-3274 jay@lsli.com Date: 2/18/98 - ------------------------------------- Two-Hour Luxury Goods Commercial Also A Spy Film ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:01:20 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: feg family values (list culture content only) here's my humble response to some recent Quailbait. These are all so obvious, no one has bothered to reply yet, but I guess I will. there's a small shred of Robyn content at the bottom. (ps. I have detailed reasons for all these, but I won't go into them-- you'll get the picture.) morticia and gomez: susan dodge and eb lurch: woj fester: j. dignan (hon mention to mssrs. winkworth and godwin) wednesday: lj (hon.mention to mary, randi, dan-yell, etc.) pugsley: eddie itt: quail thing: ross overbury the moosehead: lurkers "ben" kenobi: me ObRob: if you listen very closely with headphones starting at about the 2:17 mark during the _hen out!_ kingdom of love, you'll hear some very curious ambient sounds. =b ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 19:55:26 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (luther) Subject: bitterness On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 23:37:12 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 23:04:11 -0600 >From: sdodge@acs.popmail.uchicago.edu (amadain) >Subject: Re: angry young robyns > >> Well, Susan, I take a LOT of his lyrics at the time to be >>sarcastic, and also cynical.. > >Actually, what I meant by that was that it was scornful disdain towards the >idea a girl wouldn't really need a brain, thus that wasn't exactly a good >example of misogyny. Perhaps "Empty Girl", although again, I also took that >as being directed at a specific woman (there are some bitter tunes there on >"Invisible Hits") who was a part of some relationship disaster that happened >around that time. I don't know enough about Robyn's personal romantic >history to say definitively, just an informed guess given the lyrics on IH >and UM. I'd say it is a good guess... I'd also say he was listening to a LOT if Richard Thompson at the time. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:12:47 -0800 From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Mac & PC -- monitor brightness (figgy related) Hi my friends, My daughter and I were at the library today and had some time to kill while some tax info printed out, so we went to look at her pages http://web.syr.edu/~jacjones/madison.html You could hardly see them! The colors were so dark, and so were the pictures. And this has happened before....I am over at a PC users house, and show them some web pages that I've cooked up, and you can hardly see them. See, I own a Macintosh, and do all my web stuff on there, and the only monitor I ever see is a mac monitor. So, my question is: How do my Figgy pages look on your PC monitors? And what can I do to correct this? Most other pages I looked at today looked fine on that PC monitor. - -jbj - -*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-# John B. Jones Email: lobstie@e-z.net ICQ: 8301543 AOL IM: Lobstie House of Figgy-- http://web.syr.edu/~jojones/hitchcock.html "Well, we went to the punk bar, then we went to the heroin bar, we had pasta at Fellini, and then we went to the pretty bar." -overheard at work - -*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-# ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:17:41 -0800 From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: Did someone say... j-cards? (another mac question) >If someone sends me a reasonably accurate track listing (or better yet, the >tape itself), a j-card will be produced *as if by magic* within a few days. >Oh, and the URL to which you refer is, of course, >http://www.alternatech.net/jh3/jcards.htm. And there are now two new j-cards >posted there for J.B. Jones' fabulous Robyn's Xmas Party tape, one for >cassettes and one for DAT's. And as always, be sure to read the >instructions. The xmas party jcard is fabulous!!! I was originally turned on to jh3's beautiful jcard art from the recent unhatched crablings tape. I really wanted a better jcard for the xmas party tape, but was too busy to ask john if he might cook one up. Anyhow, how do i (a Macintosh user, and damn proud of it) print these up? I downloaded them and loaded them in my favorite graphic program (canvas), but they are HUGE!! And I can't figure out a way to shrink them down resolution-wise. Help me please!! Tom?? - -jbj - -*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-# John B. Jones Email: lobstie@e-z.net ICQ: 8301543 AOL IM: Lobstie House of Figgy-- http://web.syr.edu/~jojones/hitchcock.html "Well, we went to the punk bar, then we went to the heroin bar, we had pasta at Fellini, and then we went to the pretty bar." -overheard at work - -*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-# ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 20:28:14 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (luther) Subject: more bitter robyn On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 23:37:12 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >*LOL* I think Mr. RH was just a fairly bitter, cynical person at that point >in time, as a lot of disappointed idealists are at a young age :) Oh, so THAT'S why I am the way I am! :-) . Leaving >the Soft Boys does seem to have ameliorated that condition, so maybe in a >way you're right, since the interpersonal tension between the two of them >seems to have been pretty intense for a long time. A lot of it though, IMHO, >was I think just a function of growing up a bit :). So, he just outgrew it...Ok, does anyone wanna *touch* the question of why 'Fegmania!' could also be called "The Horny LP?" I mean, the song topics...From "Lightbulb head" through "insect mother", etc.? > -luther ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:52:17 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: the faeries don't forget waiting for the big floating glass cathedral to come by. these are kind words. but the awful truth is, i'd much prefer vicious insults. i guess i wish i had somebody --as the quail has with lj, or eb and nick have with each other-- who would just crap all over everything i said. any takers? i'd send you some licorice. but let me add here that jon sent me a tape of his songs, which i never mislay (i know, i know. that joke's getting really old. but i like it, dammitall.) it flat out fucking ROCKS. i ain't kidding. right. some ass-jack sold off a bunch of vinyl. here's what i found: A CAN OF BEES $14.99 BLACK SNAKE DIAMOND ROLE $19.99 INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK $12.99 if anybody wants me to pick these up for them, send a note to .chris (i just hired him as my personal assistant, and one of his tasks is to field and respond to my e-mail. if you just send mail directly to him from now on, we could cut out the middle-man (me), thereby expediting the phenomenon considerably) and let him know. first come first served. but i didn't buy them. so i suppose there's no guarantee that they'll still be there when i go back. these are very good prices, by the way. "Power disrespects truth." --Bruce Cumings ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 98 13:47:17 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Did someone say... j-cards? (another mac question) On 2/18/98 12:17 PM, John Barrington Jones wrote: >>If someone sends me a reasonably accurate track listing (or better yet, the >>tape itself), a j-card will be produced *as if by magic* within a few days. >>Oh, and the URL to which you refer is, of course, >>http://www.alternatech.net/jh3/jcards.htm. And there are now two new j-cards >>posted there for J.B. Jones' fabulous Robyn's Xmas Party tape, one for >>cassettes and one for DAT's. And as always, be sure to read the >>instructions. > >The xmas party jcard is fabulous!!! I was originally turned on to jh3's >beautiful jcard art from the recent unhatched crablings tape. I really >wanted a better jcard for the xmas party tape, but was too busy to ask john >if he might cook one up. > >Anyhow, how do i (a Macintosh user, and damn proud of it) print these up? >I downloaded them and loaded them in my favorite graphic program (canvas), >but they are HUGE!! And I can't figure out a way to shrink them down >resolution-wise. Help me please!! Tom?? I don't know about Canvas (I could find out if you want...), but in Photoshop the process is thus: Choose Menu Item "Image->Image Size..." In the Image Size dialog, set the Width & Height popups to "Percent" Fill in "100" for Width & Height Fill in "300" for Resolution (provided the Resolution popup is "pixels/inch") Thazzit. - -tc p.s. as far as designing web pages on a superior platform for viewing on an inferior platform, you'd have to consult some more experienced webby-type people. I think as ColorSync makes it's way cross-platform, we'll all benefit. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 98 14:00:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Vinyl Hitchcock >A CAN OF BEES $14.99 >BLACK SNAKE DIAMOND ROLE $19.99 >INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK $12.99 out of curiosity, which version of CoB is this? Pink, White or Yellow back? For years, after the yellow was out of print and the pink was everywhere I sought an original white back copy. Someone finally found one for me at a record swap in the late 80s/early 90s. Don't remember what it cost. Now I guess they're all out of print. I would guess that the white is more valuable. Anyone with a record guide who can check on this? I'm also curious as to why BSDR would be so much more expensive than the others. This was always widely available, wasn't it? And while we're on the subject, anyone have any idea what TWO HALVES FOR THE PRICE OF ONE goes for these days? - -rr ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 16:23:42 -0600 From: "JH3" Subject: Ooops, sorry (j-cards) JBJ sez: >Anyhow, how do i (a Macintosh user, and damn proud of it) print these up? >I downloaded them and loaded them in my favorite graphic program (canvas), >but they are HUGE!! And I can't figure out a way to shrink them down >resolution-wise. Sorry, that was my fault - I made a couple of last minute changes and forgot to change the resolution setting back to 300 dpi in the exported GIF bitmaps. I've just fixed them so they should be OK now - if you can't change the resolution from 96 dpi to 300 dpi in Canvas (there should be a command like "resample" or "image properties", but not being a Canvas guy myself I'm not sure), you could download them again, and the problem *should* go away, hopefully. As for that other question, it might be a difference in system color palettes between PC's and Macs, or even between Netscape and Internet Explorer. Or even gamma levels on different monitors - different manufacturers calibrate them diferent ways. BTW those pages look OK on my PC monitor, but of course I'm more of a dark-colors kinda guy anyway! John H. Hedges III ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:17:13 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: Re: Vinyl Hitchcock hmmm...i'd have said, Peach. i don't know about these days, but, i paid forty bucks for it about three and a half years ago. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 98 15:17:57 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Followup - J-Cards & Canvas FYI: So I installed Canvas 5.0.2 and it looks like the procedure is pretty similar to Photoshop: o Select All o Image->Area->Resolution... o Preserve proportions, set height and width to 100% and resolution to 300 pixels/inch dere ya go! - -tc p.s. hey, I'm no tech writer! ******************************************* Tom Clark Apple Computer, Inc. tclark@apple.com http://www.netgate.net/~tclark "If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt." - Dean Martin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 13:43:40 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: how I nearly drowned I was sitting having a cup of coffee for breakfast this morning, when my girlfriend Alice (who I have yet to seriously inculcate into the world of Robyn and who (NB) had never heard or even seen Moss Elixir) says to me: "I had this amazing dream last night. I was talking to a man made entirely out of scraps of metal and old bits of machinery, on a road that looked like it came out of a surrealist painting. It was a real De Chirico Street." I had just taken a sip of coffee. Most of it ended up elsewhere in the room. James ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:27:03 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Jackson, Fegmonomicon, Hamlet, & flippant Somewhere Apart and Last Temptation comments >>I've noticed this trinity before, and often wondered why people don't >>extend it further to add in Joe Jackson. > >Only because I haven't heard very much by him - though what I have heard, >I've liked. Any suggestions as to an album to start with? hmmm. probably one of the earlier ones, like "I'm the Man", which is similar in age and sound to Costello's "This year's model". Or maybe "Night & Day", by which time he'd started to soften a bit around the edges. Like Costello his career has had ups and downs with all sorts of weird dead-ends (with EC it was country and western, with JJ it was swing-era jazz). BTW - anyone know whether JJ's excellent soundtrack to "Mike's Murder" has ever made it to CD? >The Jackson/Robyn axis? I can see some similarities between early JJ and >EC, I think. I really liked some of Jackson's earlier work. ("Is She >Really Going Out With Him" is a timeless classic IMHO). What I've seen >from Mr. Jackson recently has been more experimental than most - on the >edge of "modern classical" even. Interesting, but a far cry from RH. the joy with a lot of early JJ for me is that you hear the song four or five times, then realise that the lyricvs are exactly the opposite of what you thought they were (eg "It's different for girls", "Geraldine and John") >Listened to Somewhere Apart. My lyric sheet looked perfect to me. > >I listened to it again. And one more time. > >Damn, that's a good song. one of my favourite Lennon compositions. No, wait a minute... >2. The name is still up in the air. My Lovecraftian jones proposed >Fegmonomicon, and more than a few folks liked that -- surprised me. You >people are *sick.* So we'll probably keep that, although Natalia Yakovna >pointed out that "Fegnomicon" is shorter and more to the point, although >it is not as funny to say after you've mastered the pronounciation. We'll >see. . . . not Fegronomicon, then? How about "The Pit of Souls"? Vaguely Lovecraftian, definitely Robyn. >I personally would asterisk "Kundun," one of my top ten of 1997. But >let;s not forget "Last Temptation of Christ," which stands as one of my >all-time favorite movies, and in my opinion, one of Martin's unmitigated >masterworks. Steve Martin played Christ??? >>Quail; Your idea of Robyn as Hamlet is *inspired*! > >Thank you! I must confess that I stole it from a rare BBC musical >performance of Hamlet starring Robyn. I thought all you other Fegs must >have had a copy . . .? I know me and Sean do: The one with Bob Dylan as >Polonius, John Wesley Harding as Horatio, Tori Amos as Ophelia, Lou and >Laurie as Claudius and Gertrude, Brian Eno as the Gravedigger, and Beck >as both Rosencrantz and Guildenstern? this brought tears to my eyes... But you missed Leonard Cohen as the ghost of Hamlet's father! I still think it's a pity they couldn't stop the Gallagher brothers fighting long enough for them to play R&G. np - What's the story (Uncle Rory)? James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 20:29:01 -0500 From: tanter Subject: re: bitter feelings Given that Robyn is a British man in his 40s, why would anyone be surprised by his being a bit sardonic now and then? It's typical for British men of his age to be like this. Hell, it's normal for men 20 yrs younger to be this way. I don't think he's ever really bitter, he's just sarcastic and sardonic. Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 00:33:59 -0600 From: sdodge@acs.popmail.uchicago.edu (amadain) Subject: Re: Elvis and George. >Elvis has long been a fan of George Jones. >He guested on an HBO "Tribute to GJ" special years ago. He sang >"She's Got You" and "Tonight The Bottle Let Me Down" >with George and seemed positively in awe to be doing so. >In fact, he had the flu the day of the taping and remarked >"I would have gotten off my deathbed to be here!" >It was a great show. > >I don't see why this should be surprising. Haven't you heard >"Almost Blue"? Indeed, his passionate love of good country songwriting has never exactly been a secret. Witness the story of his shock and surprise upon randomly tuning in "Solid Gold" and being about to turn it off, then seeing Johnny Cash and waiting to hear him and almost fainting because the song Cash did was "The Big Light" :)). Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 00:45:51 -0600 From: sdodge@acs.popmail.uchicago.edu (amadain) Subject: Re: Let's Hear You Sing A Song >On to more pleasant voices- just heard Paul Revere >and the Raiders'cover of "Do You Love Me?" on the >radio today, quite wonderful. P.Revere sounds like if >you don't love him NOW he'll jump off the Talahachee >Bridge with Billie Joe..." > >Actually, that was Mark Lindsey who crooned that >number, not Paul. I know that, but I like to refer to him as "Paul Revere" :). It's a bit the way I don't refer to Adam Ant as Stuart Goddard. Well, not quite, because Adam Ant is quite clear about wanting to be called Adam Ant, whereas Mark Lindsay was not quite as into a "stage role" per se. But I always really liked the conceit, so I call him Paul Revere. Incidentally, he has a very nicely done web page and apparently does answer email at marklindsa@aol.com. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:26:25 -0600 From: Aaron Lowe Subject: Re: Falco At 10:06 AM 2/15/98 , Ross Overbury wrote: >> > >"He was a great pop star," said Ilse Kraus, 75, clutching two long-stemmed >> > >pink roses to lay on his grave. "There was Mozart, Schubert and Falco." >> >> Umm... >> Apart from his 80s hits, what did Falco do? >> (Asking out of sheer ignorance, of course) Falco had quite the prolific career after his surge of popularity in the United States in the mid-80's, with "Der Kommissar," "Rock Me Amadeus," and "Falco." Although his records never really surfaced much in this country after 1984's _3_, which included "Rock Me Amadeus," he enjoyed pop-idol status in Europe until his recent death. For trivia's sake, the last Falco CD actually released in the U.S. was 1988's _Wiener Blut_ (Warner/Sire), but he released 3 albums after that, and a 4th, _Egoisten_, is scheduled for posthumous pressing soon. I, for one, will be rushing to find a record store that can order the import for me. Aaron - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- C. Aaron Lowe >>>aaron.l@starmail.com<<< http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/4900 >>>objet d'art<<< http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Breakers/9258 >>>no assumptions<<< Feel lucky???? Update your software! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 20:28:26 -0600 From: sdodge@acs.popmail.uchicago.edu (amadain) Subject: Re: more bitter robyn > So, he just outgrew it...Ok, does anyone wanna *touch* the >question of why 'Fegmania!' could also be called "The Horny LP?" > I mean, the song topics...From "Lightbulb head" through >"insect mother", etc.? Well, um, in my opinion much of Robyn's work fits this description. I wouldn't say "Fegmania" is at all a standout as far as that goes. In fact I'm tempted to opine that he's the most directly erotic songwriter I know of, and definitely the most -imaginatively- and variedly erotic, with tone ranging from the juvenile (e.g., "How Do You Work This Thing?") to the breathlessly romantic ("Jewels for Sophia") to the darkly perverse ("Black Snake Diamond Role"). So I don't think it's a case of a "horny LP" so much as a "horny artist" :). Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 18:43:44 -0800 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: Re: Let's Hear You Sing A Song >>.... > >>Actually, that was Mark Lindsey who crooned that >>number, not Paul. >I know that, but I like to refer to him as "Paul Revere" :). It's a bit the >way I don't refer to Adam Ant as Stuart Goddard. Well, not quite, because >Adam Ant is quite clear about wanting to be called Adam Ant, whereas Mark >Lindsay was not quite as into a "stage role" per se. But I always really >liked the conceit, so I call him Paul Revere. Incidentally, he has a very >nicely done web page and apparently does answer email at marklindsa@aol.com. "Paul Revere" was the leader of the band. The guy with the organ with the Edsel front on it. Mark Lindsay sang and was the one who got muchas las chicas. The last time I saw Paul R. was many years ago, and rumor has it that Mark Lindsay has made a few special reappearances. Usually his band from the eighties was made up of people who were born around the time of his hits. Last I heard, Paul owns one of the clubs in Reno. I don't know if he's still performing, but he's pushing 70 now. Happies, - -Markg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 19:04:05 -0800 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: A last word on "debilking"? Sorry for abusing your in-boxes like this - I hate it when other people do this - but since TGQ has chirped in I'd just like to clear the air. I'll be brief, and then I'll shut up. Promise. The Quail debilked: > [Eb] is not solely responsible for this > sort of thing continuing, but was perhaps baited by the other party, > who is well acquainted with the spectrum of the other's possible > reactions . I realize nothing I can say will convince him, but I just want to go on record that the Eb comments in my original post were REALLY NOT intended as "bait". Hopefully list oldtimers will remember that this is not my usual modus operandi. The "subtext" was supplied by the reader, not the writer in this case (not that I feel absolved from responsibility on that account). Since the overtly neutral Quail has cheeped, it's clear I must step up and take my part of the blame like a man. Yes, TGQ, in retrospect I should have been more sensitive that what I intended as friendly "joshing" was bound to be misinterpreted. It's true, I was pretty upset with the tone of Eric's' posts some months back - as were others - and said so. Recently, however, I have enjoyed his contributions. I have absolutely no point to make or axe to grind. I am saddened that the last couple of posts have shown a return to earlier form - and to the extent that I have brought this on you all, you have my apology. > Jeez. Next you will want to take lessons from that Great Quail fellow > on how to [...] refrain from posting wankingly self-indulgent bits of > half-baked sophomoric surrealism! Err ...hang on. Is this the same Quail that wouldn't let me on his Olympic Wankingly Self-Indulgent Sophomoric Surrealism team because I wasn't wankingly self-indulgent enough? If that's your attitude I'm off to sign up with the Welsh national squad. See you in Wisconsin in 1999! ~N (who may yet run out and buy Neutral Milk Hotel - I have to count the chords...) (FYI: The thing about being proud not knowing any of those annoying singers was supposed to be *self deprecating* - sorry, but I don't know the emoticon for that) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 19:47:11 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Village Voice poll In case anyone's interested, the epic Village Voice Pazz & Jop Poll for 1997 albums is now posted at http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/ The list goes on FOREVER. I read the poll until about album#1040 and gave up! My own top 10 finished at #1, #5, #9, #17, #22, #113, #138, #157, #166 and zilch. I knew Swell's Too Many Days Without Thinking was underrated, but little did I expect that it couldn't even make a consensus Top *1000*! A couple of random notes: Oasis at #53, Luna at #92 and Superchunk at #115 (nyaah, LJ ;)), Spice Girls at #379 AND #1014 and yes, Uncorrected Personality Traits at #903. (Don't feel bad -- nobody votes for compilations.) Here are the top 50: 1 Bob Dylan/Time Out of Mind 2 Radiohead/OK Computer 3 Cornershop/When I Was Born for the 7th Time 4 Sleater-Kinney/Dig Me Out 5 Yo La Tengo/I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One 6 Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott/Supa Dupa Fly 7 Erykah Badu/Baduizm 8 Belle and Sebastian/If You're Feeling Sinister 9 Bjork/Homogenic 10 Pavement/Brighten the Corners 11 Steve Earle/El Corazon 12 The Notorious B.I.G./Life After Death 13 Chemical Brothers/Dig Your Own Hole 14 Portishead/Portishead 15 Roni Size/Reprazent New Forms 16 Wyclef Jean Featuring Refugee Allstars/Wyclef Jean Presents the Carnival Featuring Refugee Allstars 17 Spiritualized/Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space 18 The Verve/Urban Hymns 19 Beth Orton/Trailer Park 20 Elliott Smith/Either/Or 21 Buena Vista Social Club/Buena Vista Social Club [whoa!] 22 Geraldine Fibbers Butch 23 Whiskeytown/Strangers Almanac 24 Janet Jackson/The Velvet Rope 25 Wu-Tang Clan/Wu-Tang Forever 26 Richard Buckner/Devotion + Doubt 27 Ben Folds Five/Whatever and Ever Amen 28 Stereolab/Dots and Loops 29 Patti Smith/Peace and Noise 30 Prodigy/The Fat of the Land 31 U2/Pop 32 Built To Spill/Perfect From Now On 33 Ron Sexsmith/Other Songs 34 John Fogerty/Blue Moon Swamp 35 Fiona Apple/Tidal 35 Daft Punk/Homework 37 Supergrass/In It for the Money 38 Blur/Blur 39 Jayhawks/Sound of Lies 40 Primal Scream Vanishing Point 41 Dr. Octagon/Dr. Octagonecologyst 42 Foo Fighters/The Colour and the Shape 43 Common/One Day It'll All Make Sense 44 Arto Lindsay/Mundo Civilizado 45 Various Artists/Return of the DJ, Volume 2 46 Timbaland and Magoo/Welcome to Our World 46 Chumbawamba/Tubthumper 48 Various Artists/Nuyorican Soul 49 Paul Simon/Songs From The Capeman 50 Mike Watt/Contemplating the Engine Room As for Nick, suuure I invented the subtext. I was practically QUOTING you. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 22:23:37 -0600 From: sdodge@acs.popmail.uchicago.edu (amadain) Subject: Re: Village Voice poll >As for Nick, suuure I invented the subtext. I was practically QUOTING you. What Nick said was something to the effect of being proud that he didn't know any of the singers/bands listed, and I at least read it as joking rather than poking. Just weighing in. Love on ya, Susan P.S. Thanks to Monsieur Gloster for the Paul Revere correction. I just made the classic mistake of assuming, since -usually- in these "somebody and the soandsos" the lead singer is the "somebody". Incidentally, who was "?"? The keyboard player? :) P.P.S. In related news, we've had more than one recent show in Chicago by the Slits and Adam and the Ants. Are these reformations of these bands (seems difficult to have an Adam and the Ants without Adam, but I suppose it could be done) or just bands who picked up the names in tribute? Can anyone enlighten me on this? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 12:52:44 +0800 From: Jon Fetter Subject: Richard and Hamlet (0 RH) Somebody mentioned a while ago about hearing Richard Thompson perform his 3-minute summary of Hamlet. Does anybody know if he in fact wrote it? Is it on CD? The time I heard it was on the radio performed by a female folk-singer (and I don't think it was Linda). If anyone knows the lyrics or knows where I can find them online, please e-mail me. Jonster - ------------------------------------------------------------------- There should be a signature here. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:09:45 +0200 From: Noah Shalev Subject: Re: Positive Vibrations Capitalism Blows wrote: > > <*That's* why SP is so important, and maybe not as good as some other > Beatles records, but perhaps more *important.* > > ok, i can buy that. but why does it still top every *greatest* albums > of all-time list you'll ever see? > it's like, every time i tell someone how boring i think Citizen Kane is, > they come back with, "ah, but it's so *innovative*! it *broke* all the > rules! techniques/effects/images that are just taken for granted as > part of the language of modern cinema were first used in Citizen Kane!" > ok. great. i'm happy to acknowledge that. but it's still a boring > movie. and i don't like seeing it atop every list of greatest movies of > all time you'll ever see. I stick 2 my opinion, SP is not such an important Album, as such. it is a very good album though. defently not boring. some of its content is important, i.e. the usage of bass phrasses by PM which were'nt familiar with rock-pop scene. it is not on my top 10 or 20, but i sure can see why it is for some of us. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #65 ******************************