From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #61 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, February 16 1998 Volume 07 : Number 061 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Delurking (Quail Eggs) [Capuchin ] Re: love,love,love, that's like hypnotising chickens. [Stewart Russell 32] The Critic (was Re: Titanic) : A NEW RECORD!! -100% RH Content!!! [jlaw@m] Pinned down in a withering crossfire (From Tomy) [Ed.Doxtator@ssa.co.uk] Re: something. Cranky post. Robynless (I think) [dlang ] Re: Kate W: Swamped Ophelia -- RH Content(!) [M R Godwin ] boats, birds & beatles [firstcat@lsli.com] angry young robyns [dwdudic@erols.com (luther)] Re: best albums, perceived beauty, Rhymney [M R Godwin ] Maisie [donald andrew snyder ] Re: statue with a pumpkin, Zoo Time [M R Godwin ] Fools, Eggs, and Distracted Globes [The Great Quail ] Re: Marxisme, tendence Groucho [M R Godwin ] Re: burning thoth [M R Godwin ] Synchronicity Milk Hotel [The Great Quail ] Re: Marxisme, tendence Groucho [firstcat@lsli.com] Robyn on the Titanic ["Elizabeth Morgan" ] Re: Winslet, Titanic, Beatles, the surreal posse and other ephemera (no Robyn, I'm afraid) [Tom Clark] Re: Gloss Fish Tape Tree [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan] Oceania bashing?!/Joe [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 00:18:38 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Delurking (Quail Eggs) On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Jon Fetter wrote: > --Quail eggs are readily available here in Taiwan (and in Japan, > too), either canned or preserved, and you can buy barbecued quails on the > street. OK, so I don't know anyone that speaks Welsh and never in all my travels do I remember ever actually hearing someone speak Welsh near me. I'm not a big fan of cheese and don't believe I've ever bought any. For those, I feel quite far enough outside the conspiracy. But boyo, do I eat them quail eggs. I eat at least two each week (often four) as part of my biweekly sushi ritual. I guess that's that. because tobiko with fane just sounds weird... J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 09:11:17 GMT From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: love,love,love, that's like hypnotising chickens. >>>>> "Terrence" == Terrence M Marks writes: Terrence> My guess: Having a daughter can sometimes do that to Terrence> you. Maisie was born about when Can of Bees came out Wonder if the name came from Sydfluences? Stewart - -- Stewart C. Russell Analyst Programmer, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:50:02 +0100 From: jlaw@mem.unibe.ch (Jeff Lawrence) Subject: The Critic (was Re: Titanic) : A NEW RECORD!! -100% RH Content!!! WARNING: This message contains absolutely no prawns, moss elixirs or ghouls... **at the risk of confusing our American cousins, I'd add 'Hamish Macbeth' to **that list. Excellent show that - it is shown in Canada (or at least Ontario) on TVO. I'd also recommend it :-) **I'd also add 'The Critic' (is this one still being made/shown?) Wow!!! Someone else who knows of this show?!? Amazing Unfortunately, only 22(?) shows were made - 12(?) for ABC and then 10 for Fox the following year (I know that I have all on video back in Canada - - just don't remember the total). So I'm afraid that's all there is. Anyone else here ever see this show? It's one of my favourite TV programs ever (along with "On The Air", "Royal Canadian Air Farce", and "If Not For You") **two days? Two hours. Ouch! That's what I call FAST!!! And painful no doubt :-( Slainte! - --- Jeff Lawrence (E-mail: jlaw@mem.unibe.ch; WWW: http://cranium.unibe.ch/~jlaw) M. E. Müller Institute for Biomechanics, P.O Box 30, 3010 Bern, Switzerland Tel./FAX: +41 31 632 98 80 / +41 31 632 49 51 "I get knocked down / But I get up again / Nobody's going to keep me down" - - Chumbawumba, "Tubthumping" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:58:03 +0000 From: Ed.Doxtator@ssa.co.uk Subject: Pinned down in a withering crossfire (From Tomy) >>>Natalie wrote: >>>> Um... why is it that all the men who feel this way seem to live several >>>> thousand miles away and/or are married? (pout) >> >>>It's tough finding a guy when you're a Costello hater, isn't it? ;) >> >>*choke* *sputter* You have grossly misinterpreted my statements, young >>man! >> >>p.s. It's *Bob Dylan* I hate... jeez... :) >Oops, my goof. Who was it who said all those terrible things about >Costello, then? ;) >Eb Dat'd be me, dere Bahb. Sorry Gnat. :::uploading emergency E. Costello-brand 'Street Cred' pills::: Yez can slap me when I get back to Chicago. I'd like to take this opportunity to say: 1. There seems to be a misunderstanding about the whole EC-voice thing. Lemme see if I can make myself clear. I understand Terry's position on what makes a good singer a good singer-- the voice doesn't have to be great. No complaints there. I've been a Rush fan for years, despite (not because of) Geddy Lee's voice. But there is a limit. Honestly. I've tried with old EC, really! I've had copies of: Spike, Blood And Chocolate, Get Happy, Imperial Bedroom, Goodbye Cruel World, Punch The Clock, The Juliette Letters, and So Red The Rose (or whatever it's called). Each one I've passed on to friends or sold back to stores. Why? The voice. I can't get PAST it. I like his music, like the way he writes... just can't deal with the voice. That's it. Nothing against EC fans, or EC as a hooman bean. Just don't like the voice. The same way I don't like Sinefeld's sing-song delivery when he does his jokes, and the same way I hated listening to Ed McMahon laughing. They're not equivalent in terms of content-- but they all grate on me equally. 2. Gnat is in no way affiliated with the United States Navy. She only wears the Admiral's uniform because it makes here look good. DAMN GOOD. 3. Just to cheese everyone off further, I can't stand "Twin Peaks" either. Oddness for oddness's sake isn't odd at all. It's pretentious. 4. James is right-- "Hamish MacBeth" was an awesome series. Too bad Robt. Carlyle (sp?) is getting to be too expensive to work for the BBC. Anyone smell Pommade? 5. Titanic was two hours too long. The special effects were standard for what you find in a commercial. Kate Winslett is attractive. Leonardo Di Garibaldi (or whatever his name is) looked like he was about 12-- too young to be believable for me. The popcorn at the cinema was good. 6. How about that Robyn Hitchock guy, huh? Any word if he's gonna be doing any more gigs in the near future? 7. New purchaes for me: Cornershop, "When I Was Born For The 7th Time". (I like very much. Especially the cover of "Norwegian Wood".) Propellerheads, "Decksanddrumsandrockandroll". (It's OK. Wouldn't cry if it disappeared outta my collection.) Sumosonic, "This Is Sumo". (I like very much as well. But then again, I like most everything Pat Fish does.) Look after yerselves... - -Ed, Doc, anyone know ANYTHING about how to use the QMHLJOBL API? n.p. The Church, Magician Among The Spirits P.S. Anyone seen a CD copy of the Blue Aeroplanes "Friendloverplane"? I'm still trying to replace mine after it got stolen 3 years ago... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 22:18:29 +2910 From: dlang Subject: Re: something. Cranky post. Robynless (I think) J, , you wrote: Why is it that Oceanic people cling to all things Oceanic? Australians, New Zealanders and all... they seem to love directors, actors, sports figures, and musicians from their own region in disproportionate numbers. I don't get it. Well, speaking as a migrant to Oz, I guess thats fairly true, especially in the sports area, which is one reason that I still barrack for England in the cricket rather than Australia because I find the aussie commentators so bloody biased towards their side. But to your question as to why, well, for one thing ,its distance, we're a fuck of a long way away from everyone else in the world,which makes some of us value our own products as we feel insecure and we have historically felt inferior to the motherland, but of course most of us won't admit to that . Also theres the convict ancestry to live down as well, so it all manifests itself into a pride in our achievements, but if you think *all *aussies think their products are better than anyone elses, then you are wrong. Our national disease is knocking our successful people. Also, 99% of the high school kids i teach think aussie films are crap, they love basketball, are starting to like base ball and they have adopted americanism's in many aspects of their langauge and clothing. Our television has one of the highest ratios of foriegn programmes in the western world, something like 89% american .The kids also mostly like music from overseas, so all I can see in the future is that we will become yet another US outpost , for good or for ill. As for our music.I think we did a pretty good job about ten years ago, early Hunters , Look blue, Bats,Chills, birthday party , etc were great , but its since mostly gone down the tube, I don't listen to much Oceanic rock music anymore.We have very few jazz musicians of note, some great world music and folk people scattered here and there and a few good film makers. Regarding Ms Campion, I really liked her Janet Frame film.So I guess I'm just plain stupid, thank you for pointing it out to me,it confirms what my wife hads been saying to me for the past 25 years. So,I am in your debt forever. Dave lang. (the plain stupid old fart from oceania) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 02:02:50 -0800 From: Danielle Subject: Capuchin, Campion, crankiness and cultural imperialism (no Robyn) James wrote, among other things: > Add another plus though for being a Paul Kelly fan. (can you, like me, > imagine Robyn having written "Before too long"?) Never occurred to me to relate the two before, but you could have something there... though I tend to be more reminded of Chris Knox... James also wrote, and Capuchin replied: > > ah! Another Wings of Desire fan! (although I'm a bit concerned you don't > > consider Jane Campion as a directorial auteur alongside Peter Jackson...). > Jane Campion makes me ill. I think Sweetie is the worst film probably > ever made. Atrocious. Makes me WANT to watch tripe like Showgirls to > clean out my system. She's yet to make a film that didn't infuriate me > with all the assumptions it intended audiences to make about human nature, > gender roles, superstitious swill, and film itself. Bah. OK, so it's not > like she's without technical skill or assumes you're an idiot. And for > that, I can see why some think she's a good director. But if they > actually like her films, I still think they're just plain stupid. (And I > mean that directly, literally, and genericly. No reason to argue because > it's just a dumb opinion.) I'm still crossing my fingers and hoping that > she'll either snap out of it and choose a worthwhile project. I guess I > get the feeling that she COULD make a good movie. She just works with > horrid material. (And no, I don't buy that about The Piano soundtrack > being purposely anachronistic.) I've seen all her movies, I think, and I stress that I do find them, generally, worthwhile and compelling. But I have issues with her. A Girls' Own Story? Had its moments. I've seen it about ten times. Though, as my friend leaned over and whispered scornfully to me after the last Film Society showing: 'my god! That short is *such* a good reason not to go to film school!' ;) Yes, Capuchin, the wilful pretension and heavy-handed symbolism gets a bit *much*, somehow. The Piano? Oh, *yikes*. What a dodgy premise *that* movie had (sexual molestation in return for piano keys? The basis for a *romance*?), and what happy smiling natives the Maori were! Jeez. As for all the assumptions it made about Victorian sexuality and 19th century colonialism... but at least the scenery was nice. I am being a bit harsh, I know, but I think that the only truly great, affecting film Campion has made was in the mid-eighties, for Australian TV. Two Friends. Lovely, natural directing, brilliant performances, an important story, very unusually structured - and it concentrated on the most commonplace of things; two teenage girls and the dissolution of their friendship. (The fact that it practically tells my life story isn't at all relevant! ;)) Now, if she could do more movies like that, I might be a whole-hearted fan... Capuchin continues: > And this bring me to another rant: > Why is it that Oceanic people cling to all things Oceanic? Australians, > New Zealanders and all... they seem to love directors, actors, sports > figures, and musicians from their own region in disproportionate numbers. > I don't get it. Let's just imagine that you're a New Zealander for a second, Capuchin. Here you are, at the bottom of the world, in one of its tiniest and most insignificant countries. You've grown up with English and American pop culture, and you love it; you hear more American accents on television than you *ever* hear people who talk like you. 95% of the music you listen to is American or British. All of the movies you see are imported. Your entire country has a massive cultural cringe - 'nothing New Zealand produces in the way of art is any good unless it's successfully following an overseas formula' - which precludes most of its own music being played on the radio or TV, any of its own television programmes developing a distinctive voice, very few of its film projects being adequately funded. You know more about Bill Clinton's wandering willy than you do about your own country's history. So there you are. And if you're of an inquiring mind, when you hit a certain age you begin to think about these things. You still love American and British pop culture, of course (hell, I know I do), you wouldn't give it up for the world (life without the Young Ones or the Simpsons? Not worth living!); but you start to question cultural imperialism just a tad. You experience some local stuff. It isn't half bad. You begin to wonder why nobody else in your own country has heard of it, let alone anyone overseas. Before you know it you're a full fledged jingoistic evangelist with lots of dodgy theories about cultural imperialism and a love-hate relationship with David Letterman. Ahem. Or is that just me? ;) I suppose I'm saying that we may seem a little over the top, and yes, it is probably all proportional and there are no more great musicians in NZ, say, than there are in some city of three million people in America... but can you blame us for wanting to 'swing things our way' (which you seem to be defining as mentioning a few things you may not have heard of)? We've had it your way for an awfully long time. And let's face it, NZ, or Australia, or wherever, is hardly likely to take over the world's pop-cultural stage, ousting Mariah and Jim Carrey from the spotlight. Give us a break. Allow us our little foibles. Danielle, wondering if she'll ever post on-topic :) NP New York Dolls. Hope I don't wake up the neighbours. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 07:38:42 +0000 From: "Tery DiSandro" Subject: Nigel & The Crosses Came across a rather odd find over the weekend; an old tape I have of people doing Byrds covers. Robyn's name was listed in the fine print of "courtesy" names under the flap, but his name wasn't listed on the album at all. Indeed, he is there! under the monkier Nigel & The Crosses (Eqyptians?). It's the last tune on the cs; covering "Wild Mountain Tyme" Anyone know WHY he didn't label himself, et al under his own name? - -Terence ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:36:48 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Kate W: Swamped Ophelia -- RH Content(!) On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, Scott Hunter McCleary wrote: > Wonder if there are any other of the Bard's roles > that Robyn might fit well into. > > Any thoughts? The Fool in 'Lear' - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:00:09 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Positive Vibrations On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, The Great Quail wrote: > For those of you who are Pepper nyetsayers and distractors: Listen to a whole > lot of pop music from the time preceding SP. I mean, days and days of it, > from the fifties all the way up. Then permit yourself "Revolver." Mmmmm > .. . . feel it? Then allow yourself a bit of the pre-Pepper good stuff. . > . . then . . . throw on Sergeant Pepper and *forget* all that would come > after: simply forget everything from Robyn and XTC to Beck and Adrian > Belew, forget Oasis and Blur, forget it all, none of it exists yet: and > just listen, listen with new ears. . . . *That's* why SP is so important, and maybe not as good as some other Beatles records, but perhaps more *important.* This might be a case for 'Revolver' but never for Pepper. All the best LPs were made in 1966 (except for 'The Chirping Crickets', that is). 'Da Capo' came out in '66. 'Aftermath' came out in '66. I rushed out and bought "Fifth Dimension" this week - staggering stuff, specially that bonus version of 'Eight Miles High' with the 'Sabre Dance' bass line. And 'Piper' would have been better if the boys had done it in '66 with Joe Boyd instead of '67 with Hurricane Smith. Try this test: Put on 'Stephanie Knows Who', 'Under my thumb', 'The Castle', 'Taxman' 'Out of time' 'Seven and Seven Is', 'I'm only sleeping', 'I See You' and 'Eight Miles High'. Follow that with 'I'm fixing a hole' and 'For the benefit of Mr Kite'. Bathos or what? - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 98 09:18:06 From: firstcat@lsli.com Subject: boats, birds & beatles OK here's my take on the weekends worth of mail waiting for me this morning - - Poseidan Adventure was a far more tragic sea tale than Titanic - read that anyway you want - and I'd rather watch that on a wet Sunday afternoon Titanic - - best Beatles album ever - Whats the Story Morning Glory - - Twin Peaks is a far better coffee than Fire Walk with Me was a movie - - if you stew rutabegas they taste more like rubarb than prunes Cheers Jay - ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall Channel Sales Director Livermore Software Laboratories, Intl. 2825 Wilcrest, Suite 160 Houston, Texas 77042-3358 1-713-974-3274 jay@lsli.com Date: 2/16/98 - ------------------------------------- Two-Hour Luxury Goods Commercial Also A Spy Film ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:34:41 GMT From: dwdudic@erols.com (luther) Subject: angry young robyns On Mon, 16 Feb 1998 03:25:23 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 22:01:39 -0600 (CST) >From: amadain >Subject: Re: love,love,love, that's like hypnotising chickens. > >> > Here's a question: Does anybody know what happened in between >> > the Soft Boys and the Egyptians? It seems to me that Robyn was, well, >> > a bit bitter towards women (c'mon, "you don't really need a brain, if >> > your'e a girl?") > >Not to completely disagree with you, because I think there's something >to this in a general way, but I always took that specific lyric as >sarcastic. > Well, Susan, I take a LOT of his lyrics at the time to be sarcastic, and also cynical...yet this sarcasm wasn't there for most of the Egyptians work... hum...... I got it! It was all Kimberly's fault!!! :-) -luther ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:00:31 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: best albums, perceived beauty, Rhymney On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, Capuchin wrote: > See, the fact is that Groucho had an amazing voice. And The 4 Marx > Brothers could harmonize like nobody's business (or Monkey Business if you > catch my drift... as in out to sea). And while his voice did fade a bit > in his later years, he was still fantastic up into the 1960s. You're right. I must add "Lydia the Tattoo'd Lady" to my list of all-time greats. And "No matter whoever began or commenced it - I'm against it". Did you know that he filmed a song called "Dr Hackenbush" for "Day at the Races", but they _cut it out_ so as to have more time for the water ballet? Here's an easy question: what is the only song recorded by both the Marx Brothers and the Soft Boys? - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:42:44 -0600 From: "JH3" Subject: Did someone say... j-cards? Nick Winkworth wrote: >How about getting some of the phenomenal talent on this list to design >couple of J-cards for this project. They could be up on a web site >someplace where anybody could download and print them out. >JH3 has some excellent examples of what I'm talking about. (Sorry, I >don't have the URL handy) If someone sends me a reasonably accurate track listing (or better yet, the tape itself), a j-card will be produced *as if by magic* within a few days. Oh, and the URL to which you refer is, of course, http://www.alternatech.net/jh3/jcards.htm. And there are now two new j-cards posted there for J.B. Jones' fabulous Robyn's Xmas Party tape, one for cassettes and one for DAT's. And as always, be sure to read the instructions. Let's see, what else...? Luther (whom I've unfairly corrected in the past, sorry L) recalled: >AND 'MACHO MAN' RANDY SAVAGE (is he out of the NWO? :-) ) >was also a MIB!!! I'm not all *that* huge an X-Files (or pro wrestling) fan, but I did see that episode, and wasn't that Jesse Ventura? Randy Savage isn't quite that tall, and I happen to know that Jesse is a big Robyn fan, whereas Randy is strictly into industrial thrash. Oh, and let me take this opportunity to say that it *is* possible to have an all-time favorite album, if you're willing to subject yourself to the iron discipline of never being swayed by critics, friends, and your own ears from the (almost quasi-religious) belief that XTC's "Go 2" is, without question, the greatest collection of music ever recorded. I realize that this isn't the sort of thing I should be saying on the Robyn Hitchcock list, but hey, flame away, I don't care. Mike Godwin asks: >what is the only song recorded by both the Marx Brothers and the Soft Boys? Hmm... I was going to say "Vyrna Knowl is a Headbanger," but I guess it's "A Most Peculiar Voice," isn't it? John H. Hedges III (Terribly disappointed that he didn't make it into The Quail's latest novella) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:04:15 -0600 (CST) From: donald andrew snyder Subject: Maisie On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer wrote: > Wonder if the name came from Sydfluences? I always thought it was from the Henry James book, What Maisie Knew. - -Andy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 18:05:18 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: statue with a pumpkin, Zoo Time On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, James Dignan wrote: > >(wouldn't the people of Europe rather have a statue of Frank Zappa that an 80's has-been freak?) > I believe there is one in Prague.(!) FZ was an official advisor to Vaclav > Havel's immediate-post-Communist Czech(oslovak) government. There's certainly a statue bust of FVZ in Vilnius, capital of Lithuania. They knocked down a statue of Lenin to put it up... > > Didn't SOMEBODY out there watch 'the human animal' or 'the > >human sexes'? What about you Brits on the list? How is Desmond > >Morris viewed on YOUR country? > I left Britain when I was about 12, so I must admit I preferred Johnny Morris. I met Desmond Morris during my schooldays (c1960) when he used to host a TV prog called 'Zoo Time'. Every week I'd watch to see if it was polecats, leopards, wombats or something interesting, but it was almost always sodding Congo the painting chimpanzee and a load of experiments featuring apes, sticks and grapes. I believe he turned it into a book. Johnny Morris was more anthropop x anthromopo x prone to treat the animals as human, but he was much more fun. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 98 14:25:02 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Fools, Eggs, and Distracted Globes Sean writes, >Anyway, one of the great casting turns in Hamlet is Billy Crystal as the >gravedigger. It occurred to me that Robyn would have been a pretty cool >choice in that role as well. Wonder if there are any other of the Bard's roles >that Robyn might fit well into. > >Any thoughts? The Fool from "King Lear?" Or: Hamlet from "Hamlet?" Don't laugh, think for a moment, especially his distracted musings that occasionally border on stream-of-consciousness wanderings through a sealed-off internal world. . . . plus there are mentions of crabs, distracted globes, and plenty of ghosts! And speaking of Fools, as my great grandfather "Touchstone" Quail once said, if the jangly cap-o-bells fits, wear it: I would like to thank MR Godwin for his round thrashing of my Sgt. Pepper theory. I still think it was very important, and I still think it opened the doors for a lot of neat stuff, but I do concede that there were certainly a few other things floating around at the time, and Revolver was certainly a step in the Pepper direction. But I concede that I went a bit overboard, and I hope you can all forgive me my exaggerations. They come from good intentions and perhaps some indignation at seeing one of my earliest favorite albums being dethroned from the Seat of Diety. I was speaking ex cathedra with no real right to be. Capuchin writes: >But boyo, do I eat them quail eggs. I eat at least two each week (often >four) as part of my biweekly sushi ritual. I guess that's that. Great! I am most pleased to know that Brother Capuchin partakes of the Essence of Quail on a biweekly basis. Considering his many disagreements with me, I feel suddenly closer to him -- I had no idea he was attempting to grok the essence of Quailkind. Keep trying, Feather-Brother, one day I am sure enlightenment will come. Who knows, you might even start liking love songs and move to New Zealand or Australia. . . .lots of Quailish creatures down there to grok and cherish, Brother. . . . Cheeping into yesterday before tomorrow comes, - --Quail PS: But hey, I *love* "For the Benefit of Mr. Kite," and that backwards calliope thing sounds real freaking strange under the, um, right mental conditions. . . . PPS: And oh yes, to this murky "Jon Fetter" from Taiwan fellow: Long have I seen your lone Feg dot sitting in Asia, and long have I wondered when you would post. . . . I am happy to know that you have finally de-cloaked, and now the Feggization of China may procede from your small but feisty "Breakaway Rupublic." Soon those inscruitable Maoists will have something else to fear from Taiwan. . . . - ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail, K.S.C. | Literature Site - The Libyrinth: TheQuail@cthulhu.microserve.com | www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth www.rpg.net/quail | Vampire Site - New York by Night: riverrun Discordian Society | www.rpg.net/quail/NYBN 73 De Chirico Street | Arkham, Orbis Tertius 2112-42 | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:26:29 -0800 (PST) From: Karen Reichstein Subject: burning thoth Eddie and the Great Quail mused: *Eddie says: > but, wouldn't that be somethin' if we had >this freakin' *fleet* of vehicles, with big thoths painted on the hoods, >rolling through texas? >Eddie . . . that would be the coolest freaking thing in the world. . . . >kicking up a cloud of dust . . . the sun setting on our caravan . . . >God, I would love to have a Feggin' convoy! Just think of the evenings, >when we park and gather 'round the campires to sing Feg songs, cooking >beans and watching shooting stars. . Why does this remind me of Burning Man? Sounds kind of idyllic, eh? Set up a Feg camp out on the playa....create small villages, shelters and roads (DeChirico street, Glass Hotel)...and, after three days of frenzied dancing and lucid dreaming, we could torch the 300 foot tall Thoth! Just an idea. Karen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 18:55:46 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Marxisme, tendence Groucho On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, JH3 wrote: > Mike Godwin asks: > >what is the only song recorded by both the Marx Brothers and the Soft Boys? > > Hmm... I was going to say "Vyrna Knowl is a Headbanger," but I guess it's "A > Most Peculiar Voice," isn't it? Good try, but no! Next guess? - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:08:08 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: burning thoth On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Karen Reichstein wrote: > Why does this remind me of Burning Man? Sounds kind of idyllic, eh? Set up > a Feg camp out on the playa....create small villages, shelters and roads > (DeChirico street, Glass Hotel)...and, after three days of frenzied > dancing and lucid dreaming, we could torch the 300 foot tall Thoth! > > Just an idea. What a concept! But who do we put in it? And don't you have to have nine walkers on stilts circling and banging their shields to drown the victims' cries? Or is that only in Lloyd Alexander? - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 98 15:34:06 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Synchronicity Milk Hotel OK . . . It is only an hour or so after I just posted. I went to the Lemoyne Taco Bell for lunch -- one of the three fine Taco Bell establishments serving the greater Harrisburg Area -- and I open the newest "Rolling Stone." Kate Winslet is on the cover, article about "Titanic." No Surprise there, of course. But as I am reading the record reviews, suddenly "Walking on Sunshine" begins playing -- the Katrina and the Waves song w/Kimberly Rew. I sat there and recalled that I did not know, until joining this list, that that song had a Robyn Connection. Suddenly I get this really weird feeling, and -- I swear this! -- a child, a wee girl, comes stumbling up to my table right as my eyes fall upon Rolling Stone's review for the new "Neutral Milk Hotel" CD. Then the girl's mother cries out, "Robyn! Come here!" EEEeeeeeK! So that's how the Universe told me I had to come right here and post my raves about the Neutral Milk Hotel CD. I confess I hadn't heard about them until Eb's Wheeeeeful post, but anything that gets past the EbFilter is certainly worth a listen, so I picked it up a few days ago. I love this CD. Go out and buy it. It's like this guy with a really rough voice, see, but he doesn't care about it because he grew up listening to Syd Barrett and They Might Be Giants and Pet Sounds and all that. So he writes this album, lots of stark acoustic guitar, and lyrics pulled from some sort of internal and almost vaguely erotic world of strange faunal and floral desires that he must have shared with a few imaginary playmates and a very strange girlfriend. Buy he was unhappy with the overall sound, that is until he decided to play around with it, so he went out into the garden and recruited whomever he could find there, frogs, crickets, maybe a disaffected mouse of two, and he gave them instruments he stole from his old high school band room. . . . Oh, yes, and it all works, brilliantly. Well, that's my impression. I'm sure Eb can be more illumibnating and technical; I just wanted to say that I haven't been this impressed with a new CD for a long time. . . . Cheep on ya, - --Quail - ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail, K.S.C. | Literature Site - The Libyrinth: TheQuail@cthulhu.microserve.com | www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth www.rpg.net/quail | Vampire Site - New York by Night: riverrun Discordian Society | www.rpg.net/quail/NYBN 73 De Chirico Street | Arkham, Orbis Tertius 2112-42 | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:53:16 -0600 From: Miles Subject: Re: Marxisme, tendence Groucho At 06:55 PM 2/16/98 +0000, M R Godwin wrote: >On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, JH3 wrote: >> Mike Godwin asks: >> >what is the only song recorded by both the Marx Brothers and the Soft Boys? >> >> Hmm... I was going to say "Vyrna Knowl is a Headbanger," but I guess it's "A >> Most Peculiar Voice," isn't it? > >Good try, but no! Next guess? "We Like Bananas"? Or has someone already guessed that? later, Miles np: R. Stevie Moore, PURPOSE ============================================================== JASON WILKINS (of Neilson Hubbard): Victor's was just starting to happen, then it burned down. BILL LLOYD: That's a pretty good metaphor for the Nashville rock scene. -- NASHVILLE SCENE, Jan. 15, 1998 Miles Goosens outdoorminer@mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~outdoorminer/miles ============================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 98 03:52:41 From: firstcat@lsli.com Subject: Re: Marxisme, tendence Groucho My guess is "Everyone says I Love You" - --- On Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:53:16 -0600 Miles wrote: >At 06:55 PM 2/16/98 +0000, M R Godwin wrote: >>On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, JH3 wrote: >>> Mike Godwin asks: >>> >what is the only song recorded by both the Marx Brothers and the Soft >Boys? >>> >>> Hmm... I was going to say "Vyrna Knowl is a Headbanger," but I guess >it's "A >>> Most Peculiar Voice," isn't it? >> >>Good try, but no! Next guess? > >"We Like Bananas"? Or has someone already guessed that? > >later, > >Miles > >np: R. Stevie Moore, PURPOSE > > >============================================================== >JASON WILKINS (of Neilson Hubbard): Victor's was just starting >to happen, then it burned down. >BILL LLOYD: That's a pretty good metaphor for the Nashville >rock scene. > -- NASHVILLE SCENE, Jan. 15, 1998 >Miles Goosens >outdoorminer@mindspring.com > >http://www.mindspring.com/~outdoorminer/miles - -----------------End of Original Message----------------- - ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall Channel Sales Director Livermore Software Laboratories, Intl. 2825 Wilcrest, Suite 160 Houston, Texas 77042-3358 1-713-974-3274 jay@lsli.com Date: 2/17/98 - ------------------------------------- Two-Hour Luxury Goods Commercial Also A Spy Film ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:18:33 PST From: "Elizabeth Morgan" Subject: Robyn on the Titanic >p.s. Now, if Robyn had been one of the musicians standing tall on deck >until the final plunge, *that* would have been a movie! Imagine the >screams as he begins to play "Ghost Ship" or Luminous Rose" one more >time. Well, I have to admit that I was one of those people crying in the theatre. The tears started BEFORE the passengers even boarded the ship! (You remember the part when the submersible's lights first show the rusting hull.) Drowning or dying from hypothermia would be an awful way to go. As Mike Runion knows, if Robyn was on the deck playing Ghost Ship someone would have to pick me up and throw me into a lifeboat to save me! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 98 16:50:30 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Winslet, Titanic, Beatles, the surreal posse and other ephemera (no Robyn, I'm afraid) On 2/15/98 3:42 AM, Danielle wrote: >~ I go out a lot, and I like to sleep late. I am also occasionally hung >over. Danielle is now an honorary Bay Area Feg! Welcome! - -tc ******************************************* Tom Clark Apple Computer, Inc. tclark@apple.com http://www.netgate.net/~tclark "Beer is the only virtual reality I need." -Leroy Lockhorn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:25:37 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Gloss Fish Tape Tree >How about getting some of the phenomenal talent on this list to design >couple of J-cards for this project. They could be up on a web site >someplace where anybody could download and print them out. correction. Someplace where everyone with web access could download them. Not all of us have web access... James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:24:25 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Oceania bashing?!/Joe >James -- you live in New Zealand. I mean, wouldn't listing your favorite >CD's as desert island disks be a bit, um, redundant in your case? > >(Just kidding, my platypusless friend!) :) you know not what you say... we're into the second month of drought here (excluding one day, Feb 7th, when we had 2 inches of rain...). El nino strikes again. Hot? It's *damn* hot! >No curlews, either. the curlews in Japan are Eno fans, far below and calling from strangely stunted trees. >a dislike for Mr. McManus, who, in fact, >forms a member of my musical Divine Trinity along with Messrs Hitchcock >and Partridge! I've noticed this trinity before, and often wondered why people don't extend it further to add in Joe Jackson. BTW - any JJ fans out there think that "It's all too much" was inspired by Crowded House? >And this bring me to another rant: >Why is it that Oceanic people cling to all things Oceanic? Australians, >New Zealanders and all... they seem to love directors, actors, sports >figures, and musicians from their own region in disproportionate numbers. >I don't get it. hmmm. I don't know - perhaps they're just better ;) Or maybe it's the "small town" syndrome. Say you come from Nowhere, Wisconsin, population 500. A local directs a better-than-average movie that gets shown around the world. Don't you feel any local pride? Or maybe its just that the mindset of people in this part of the world makes that music, art, literature etc. more accessible to us. FWIW, I think that Janet Frame is one of the worst critically acclaimed authors in the world; Lee Tamahori, with the exception of one great movie, has directed a bunch of dogs; much of Dave Dobbyn's music (with a few stunning exceptions) is a pile of dung; and Martin Crowe's would have been a far better batsman if he wasn't carrying an ego the size of Texas with him all the time. Happy now? Are you saying that vast numbers of Americans don't think that American directors, actors, sports figures, and musicians are greater than others from outside the US? Or that anyone doesn't prefer local talent? The difference is that Americans, Britons, and to a lesser extent Canadians are likely to think that most people will have heard of their most talented people. New Zealanders know full well that this is not the case with their best, so we do sometimes self-promote. But rarely if ever deliberately. It's just something in the mindset of the place. I suggest that you will like the Muttonbirds, or the Chills becauase I feel that you will like them and wouldn't otherwise have heard of them, not because it's a patriotic duty to do so, or any other such crap. I don't suggest you listen to OMC or Supergroove, because I don't think that they would necessarily appeal to Robyn's audience. I also name a lot of Australian bands, and believe me there is nothing a New Zealander hates more than admitting an Australian is good at what he or she does - it's like an Irishman saying that something English is good! Oh, and I rarely if ever mention New Zealand's scenery, because surely everyone already knows it's the best in the world ;) James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #61 ******************************