From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #36 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, January 29 1998 Volume 07 : Number 036 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #31 ["J. Katherine Rossner" ] Lutefisk [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] RE: replying to the lot in one go... [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (] Re: Cymri Fegg Llyst Dayyffidd! Hew hew hew. . . . [jeffery vaska ] Edrychwch ar y rhestr yma!!! [Nick Winkworth ] (Temporary) change of address ["Aidan Merritt" ] Re: On, Wisconsin! [73% Homer content (no tim keegan)] [KarmaFuzzz ] better read than dead [Bayard ] what in the name of jehova is going on around here? ["Capitalism Blows" <] Re: what in the name of jehova is going on around here? [nicastr@IDT.NET ] _________.org [Bayard ] Re: viva sea-tac lyrics [John Barrington Jones ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:37:02 -0500 From: "J. Katherine Rossner" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #31 At 12:30 AM 1/27/98 -0500, you wrote: >From: Capuchin >OK. I've been thinking about this for days and days now. Why is it that >this list has such an incredibly high percentage of folks that speak Welsh >and other ancient Anglo languages? I can honestly say that it's never >come up before in my life. Never have I met a person outside of, say, the >welsh that spoke Welsh. And now there are like SIX on this list alone. >Am I the only one surprised by this? I don't know Welsh. (Yet. I hope to learn it. Especially if I keep getting sent samples of wonderful Welsh folk-rock-something.) But I don't *think* it's an "Anglo" language... But I'd guess that many people on this list are interested in language(s). Two possible explanations, as a start: 1. Robyn Hitchcock's music is full of wordplays and other strange language stuff. In my experience, people who enjoy that sort of thing also tend to study a variety of languages. 2. "Birds of a feather"... how many of us got into the music and/or the list because of friends who were into it? The people I talk to most (and whose music I want to learn to enjoy, because I think the people are cool) are likely to be interested in languages, because I am, and that's one of the things I want to talk about. (I don't know Swahili yet, either...) >Do you have I Often Dream Of Trains? Call me silly, but I'm sure you'll >love it. Must have been the first one I borrowed...so I did hear the whole album, but at that point thought it was too much of That Rock Stuff for me. (And I returned the Pogues' IF I SHOULD FALL FROM GRACE WITH GOD, which I'd borrowed at the same time, with even more of a negative reaction. That's the first side of the tape-most-often-in-my-Walkthing-this-week...whose second side is in Welsh. :) ) Anyway, yes, I want to hear it again. What I got after that was a mix tape...should I bother listing the contents? I've lost the card, and can't remember everything that's on it, but from memory and in no particular order: Uncorrected Personality Traits, Bones in the Ground, Lady Waters and the Hooded One, Clean Steve, De Chirico Street, Angel Upstairs, I Often Dream of Trains, Acid Bird, Have a Heart Betty (or whatever that one's called), something else whose title I never get straight but it begins with "what can I say to you" and includes the line "the mincemeat seethes for you", Balloon Man, Man with the Light Bulb Head, and I think a few others but I can't remember what. Took me a while to like much of that tape, even--and I suspect the mixer was trying to find the stuff most accessible to my tastes--but now I'm listening to it a lot. And so far I have EYE and SPECTRE and MOSS ELIXIR for other listening (why? 'cause that's what I was given). And, to tie this in to other threads, I don't know if that's "what to give a prospective feg", because it depends so very much on the particular tastes of those involved... >> Anyway, if >> the man describes his own music as folk, I'm not going to argue. > >You haven't been here very long, have you? We'll argue with anyone about >anything. Hey, I didn't say *you* wouldn't argue, I said I wouldn't! Oh, wait--is refusing to argue with everyone about everything going to get me ejected from the discussion? Never mind, I'll argue! >I love that this has so much more meaning now than it did then. I wonder >if Chaucer was thinking about that when he wrote it. What makes you think it has more meaning now? Chaucer was talking about trying to understand ancient Troy! You can understand his language better than he understood theirs... Katherine - -- Ye knowe ek, that in forme of speche is chaunge Withinne a thousand yere, and wordes tho That hadden pris, now wonder nyce and straunge Us thinketh hem, and yet they spake hem so. - Chaucer ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:18:55 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: On the Ebbishness of Eb >Ebbie dear writes in response to my recent characterization of him as a >"nay-sayer": > >>:P >>Again I say, my opinions are given honestly and sincerely, and not just to >>knee-jerk deviate. I resent the above characterization. Well, you know...reposting private email to a public mailing list is usually considered very bad manners. But then I know that there's often a double-standard for decorum on this list. >You know, it just occurred to me how much Eb -- your name, not yourself >-- looks like a "sticking out of the tongue" smiley! Kind of a bloke with >big eyes and no pupils . . . no, wait! I guy with *glasses!* That's it! >Does anyone know if Eb wears glasses? Wait a minute . . . I bet "Eb" >isn't really your name at all! We have just been *assuming* that, and all >the time you are really "The Anonymous Emoticon of a Bloke with Big >Square Glasses Who Is Vigorously P'thphing a Defiant Rasberry." The Great Quail, being silly and overanalytical? Naaah, couldn't be. ;) >Turns out that we both dated >LJ Lindhurst before, back when she was going by the name of LJ Spice. >Amazing what comparing old photographs can uncover! Yeah, but I bet she didn't ask you to pose nude for her.... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:19:01 +1300 (NZDT) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Lutefisk >Don't forget that Wisconsin is also the land of serial killers - Ed Gein >and Jeffrey Dahmer, to be precise - as well as Senator Joe "no sense of >decency" McCarthy. Wisconsin also spawned Jim Mallon and Joel Hodgson, >masterminds of "Mystery Science Theater 3000." And due to the high number >of Norweigan settlers, lutefisk* is also rampant in Wisconsin. There's a >Wisconsin bumper sticker that says, "If lutefisk is outlawed, only outlaws >will have lutefisk." this is too much. TWO mailing lists I am on are currently discussing Lutefisk. Both are music lists. You want synchronicity? Or are there a number of Seancers out there on Fegmaniax!? James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:16:24 +1300 (NZDT) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: RE: replying to the lot in one go... >I read somewhere that another of his favorite randomizing techniques was >to put >numbers on cuts of tape and then toss some darts...order hit - order of >the tapes... > >I think there is an oblique strategies server somewhere on the net as well... there is... I can't remember the location though. I've used ObStrats in songwriting/recording myself. Sometimes they work really well (anyone who has my tape may like to know that that's why 'Omens on the Run' sounds like it does). James ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:41:43 -0800 From: jeffery vaska Subject: Re: Cymri Fegg Llyst Dayyffidd! Hew hew hew. . . . The Great Quail wrote: > > Dayyffidd Llibbric gewridded Yyesterposcht: > > Hew hew hew! "Capuchin" ken ni y Cymri Fegg Llyst! Grwaggeth annwn, > "Capuchin" flyddiddh! Hyew hyew! Arafwch nawr, fwr twr wyddershin > bydddyydad! Ipswch "Susan Dodge" iffy boffu boffu wydd "Bayardd?" Hew > hew hew! Anga dando pwffll "Woj" yng "Eb" anga effyn dando Llymonguin y > Lliagor y pwll hanner myceni zygote wiffle callyach bheur "bloody stupid > Roger Waters album" fydd Radio Kaos wuffi buffy whampyre hoc wen > gryggwdd? Murp. oh my god this was painful to my eyes...but it made me remember that there does exist the bible in PIG LATIN on the web. actually, it's only the Books of Enesis-gay, Ob-jay and Ohn-jay. http://www.well.com/user/earl/Ible-bay.html Ave-hay un-fay...effery-jay aska-vay ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:25:32 +0000 From: Christy Cohen Subject: Re: Lutefisk James Dignan wrote: > > this is too much. TWO mailing lists I am on are currently discussing > Lutefisk. Both are music lists. You want synchronicity? Or are there a > number of Seancers out there on Fegmaniax!? > > James hee hee....time for me to de-lurk...hi all, i've been on the list for quite a long time now, but never took the time to properly introduce myself, so here I am. I'm Christy. I've been a Robyn fan for roughly five years, and a feg for approximately one. now, I am very glad that James pointed this out. Because between the lutefisk mail from seance and fegmaniax, I merely thought it was just me imagining things. "Hold on, I thought they were discussing that on the OTHER list....oh well, I'll just up the meds.." :) cheers, christy - -- __________________________________________________________ http://www.geocities.com/soho/lofts/2020 "Advice to young chefs: Always cook on medium or low. Avoid high as this is only for professionals or fathers." -- Kevn Kinney ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:56:58 -0800 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: Edrychwch ar y rhestr yma!!! There's a sinister plot hatching here... Am I the only person on this list who does not speak Welsh?* What is Robyn's connection with the Welsh? My guess is that those fiends in the Welsh Development Agency are somehow forcing Robyn to help them capture the world cheese market (following the collapse of the coal industry...). The lyrics to Robyn's songs seem surrealistic, eh? Well what would you say if they were really secretly coded instructions to Robyn's brainwashed followers to rise and move to Wisconsin, where, by popular vote, Robyn will be elected governor and will decree that the entire state be airlifted by 4,789 Zeppelin airships to a convenient spot in the Irish Sea just off Aberystwyth? The decoded instructions are kept in Welsh, of course, for maximum secrecy (Navaho having been taken already), since the average percentage of population who speak the language is exactly 0%. Everyone who listens to Robyns records has been subliminally taught the language - even though many of them are not even aware of it. Thanks to the stalwart decoding of every Hitchcock lyric ever - including counting every 'yip' and 'nin' - crack(ed) decoders Jeme and Bayard have unraveled the whole sordid story. Even as I type this, The Great Quails' alter ego, Professor Fane, is passing out deprogramming tapes under the guise of the latest tape tree. So Messrs Welsh Development Agency, your sinister plot for world cheese domination is over. Your fatal mistake was to assemble such an unlikely number of Welsh speakers on one internet mailing list - a sure clue! Now it's all over, oes ofn arnoch chi? Remember; Rydw i wedi gweld y dyn - dydy e ddim yn dod! ~N (PS Mae'r caws ar y bwrdd.) * Although I have a suspicion that my spouse *may* have some connection with those parts ...that distinctive surname 'Jones' is a dead giveaway, if you ask me! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:47:24 PST From: "Aidan Merritt" Subject: (Temporary) change of address Thanks to my ISP being incompetent/unlucky/a gaggle of Manx tossers, my mail server is down for 'A while' - until you hear otherwise, can anyone sending me or positive vibrations anything send it to this hotmail address (aidanmerritt@hotmail.com). And yes, I know it's immoral and I'm subsidising Bill Gates' house. But I promise I don't click on the advertising. Love & hugs Aidan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:40:00 EST From: KarmaFuzzz Subject: Re: On, Wisconsin! [73% Homer content (no tim keegan)] In a message dated 98-01-27 17:42:19 EST, gondola@deltanet.com writes: > >M R Godwin wrote: > >> This all sounds a bit Lake Wobegon to me, but I expect it's really miles > >> from Garrison Keillor country. > >Actually much of the northern midwest seems to be Keillor country. And > >living in Ballard, in Seattle (home of norwegians and swedes), I > >wouldn't be surprised to see my neighbor had one of those bumper > >stickers. > Be funnier! > > Eb > > [Simpsons fans will know] only if you buy us tickets to the ballet*........ i mean, we do all love all the meats of our great cultural stew, right? *[to see the bear riding around in the little car, naturally] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:08:04 From: Michael Hooker Subject: you and oblivion previously posted: - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------- hi, is there anybody else who thinks you and oblivion is one of the best things robyn released? i was just listening to it thru headphones, something i rarely do. i heard all sorts of cool stuff. during " stranded in the future" you could hear a truck pull up, apply its air brakes, then throttle up and pull away. i thought it was outside my house till i listened twice. this is a record i would definetly use to introduce robyn to a potential feg. i always enjoy it. feeling very mellow, Mike Hooker ======== Fwd by: Russ Reynolds ======== How many has it scared off? If taking a bunch of material that was not good enough for any of his legitimate albums and slapping it all together on one disc creates one of the best thing's he's ever released it doesn't say much for the rest of his work. Black Snake Diamond Role--now THERE'S an album. - - -rr - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------- that fact that some songs never made it to a previously released album doesnt automatically condemn them as inferior. i am sure we can all name our own choice of songs from Robyn's " legitimate" albums that we consider unlistenable. if every song Robyn performs that isnt on an album is inferior, then lets all chuck the bootleg tapes we used to love to listen to. feeling less mellow, Mike Hooker ps- black snake diamond role is probably the last album i would give to a newbie feg. Mike Hooker Hooks Auto Service 20-7 Jules Ct. Bohemia NY 11716 516 567-1278 516 567-7755 516 567-3103 fax ALFA ROMEO CARS AND PARTS WANTED( HOBBY!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:40:02 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: better read than dead someone sent me the AK PRESS cd release BETTER READ THAN DEAD. was it someone on this list? I'd accuse eddie or eb (they're always giving people [free promo] shit) but i think the return address said san francisco. haven't had a listen yet but i assure you if it's great i'll let you know. [hopefully working in some robyn content too]. speaking of a good read, SHM from VA has notified me there is a new Haruki Murakami book out. Do your mind a massive favor and drive do not run to you local library or bookcellar and grab _the wind-up bird chronicles_! i guarantee you, as an intellectual, over-analytical, silly fegmaniac will NOT be disappointed! and i haven't even read it yet! =b np: John Taylor originals (GLASS FLESS II contributor w/ Chris Hamburger) (robyn content! um, look it up.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:36:20 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: what in the name of jehova is going on around here? all right, that does it! have y'all been eating weirdo sandwiches today, or just what's the freakin' deal? i'm gonna say that today's will surely be the single zaniest digest in the storied history of fegmaniax. now, i'll be the first to admit that i immediately linked onto this website, and started reading away. and that i thereupon began to laughing until my knickers fell down around my ankles (which caused quite a commotion here in the library, if i may say it. i even heard shouts of, "beefsteak!" and, "chumba-WAMBA!" although i hope this was just coincidence.) but, jeez, i think *everyone* has upped their meds today. except for allen, who actually seemed somewhat restrained. though in his case "restrained" is quite the relative term, to say the least. has anybody else noticed that the upside-down duck t-shirt never fails to get a rise out of people? every time i wear it --and i wear it at least once a week-- somebody comments on it. further impressions of the furs: more like the damned crossed with bowie, i guess. oh, hold on a second. this just reminded me of something. years ago, when i was working at the dairy queen, there was this guy that worked there that told me a story about how he'd called some girl that he had the hots for up on the phone. her little sister answered, and asked if she could say who was calling? he replied, "david... david bowie." and she started bawling. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:44:48 -0500 From: nicastr@IDT.NET (Ben) Subject: Re: what in the name of jehova is going on around here? >oh, hold on a second. this just reminded me of something. years ago, >when i was working at the dairy queen, there was this guy that worked >there that told me a story about how he'd called some girl that he had >the hots for up on the phone. her little sister answered, and asked if >she could say who was calling? he replied, "david... david bowie." and >she started bawling. What was David Bowie doing working at a Dairy Queen?!?! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:40:29 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: _________.org hi yall, Very soon, my web site will go online. I want to register a domain name for it. fegmania.org, fegmaniax.org, and robyn.com are spoken for. I'm leaning heavily towards robynbase.org (Robynbase of course is my RH database system) but if you have a better idea, email me offlist. My site will hopefully feature streaming audio and video, dynamically generated J cards for all known RH tapes, complete and correct info for all known RH songs, releases, tapes and gigs; and a bunch of other crap. Email me with ideas or things you might want to do to help. It's a group effort. (I am VERY interested in people with scanners and odd RH items, par example.) And of course robynbase will link to the all-important sites that already exist... you can never get too much of that charming feline, figgy, and his reports on RH's live exploits; nor can you resist ogling fegfotos and animated cones, reading about the thematic threads of the oevre, and checking out _positive vibrations_ (can we get more PVs stuff online? i'd be glad to help if i can..) i'll hear from you soon! =b ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:29:48 -0800 From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: viva sea-tac lyrics >Using the lyrics that Hal posted as a reference here's what I come up with >when comparing to the version on the Viva Sea-Tac II tape. Subtle >differences from the Christmas Party version in both lyrics and structure >(for instance "Do you want to pay for this in cash?" isn't repeated in this >version). Hey folks, The version of "Viva Seatac" which I opted to put on the Robyn Hitchcock's Xmas Party is from the first seattle gig in june of last year (taped by none other than Eddie Tews--thanks, eddie!) and I believe it was the debut performance of that song. Thus the discrepancies in the lyrics. Nick, this would be a good example of Robyn's songs adjusting themselves ever so slightly over the course of a few gigs. - -jbj - -*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-# John B. Jones Email: lobstie@e-z.net House of Figgy-- http://web.syr.edu/~jojones/hitchcock.html "Well, we went to the punk bar, then we went to the heroin bar, we had pasta at Fellini, and then we went to the pretty bar." -overheard at work - -*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-#-*-# ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #36 ******************************