From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #28 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, January 24 1998 Volume 07 : Number 028 Today's Subjects: ----------------- I can COPE with THOMPSON ["FROST C.N" ] Re: RH, RT, & JC [dlang ] Julian Cope [TROYD1@Westat.com (TROYD1)] Re: I'm sorry, but I HAD to. ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Not another COPE post! Aaagh! [Mike Runion ] WoMbAtS [Jim Moore ] where's a good place to find concert listings? [lj lindhurst ] Re: Live embryonic crabs [M R Godwin ] Re: WoMbAtS [MARKEEFE ] seeking Qrys (no RH) [Bayard ] Gorky's (yet another "stabbing," nasty post from Eb) [Eb ] Re: Gorky's Zygotic Mynci [Debora ] re: Tangerine Dream evolution [MCINTYRE@pa.msu.edu] Spectre Fer Sale ["Terence DiSandro" ] Re: Seafood, gf, and punk folk. Who's this Robyn guy? [Allison Elizabeth ] Re: Is Robyn lurking ? [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] um... I'm not sure there is one [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James] Debunking [Eb ] ICE request [Hedblade ] Re: disembunking [Bayard ] Randomly Generated wOmbaTS ["Gregory S. Shell" ] Re: ICE request ["Chris, the missing years." ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:15:28 +0000 (GMT) From: "FROST C.N" Subject: I can COPE with THOMPSON I am both a Cope and Thompson fan. I saw Cope play a 3 hour set at the Wolverhampton Civic Hall, a couple of years back, comprising an electric set (complete with flourescent mellotron) and an acoustic set (featuring acoustic numbers mainly requested from the audience). The guy is an incredible performer. He spent a significant portion of the show wading through the audience (still managing to maintain good vocals), climbing speaker stacks and leaping onto balconies. His music seems to combine elements of prog, indie and psychedelia. Peggy Suicide is a classic. 'Reynard the Fox' is the scariest song I've ever heard (it's impact being similar to Genesis' 'The Knife'). I'm hoping to see him performing a spoken word/acoustic set next month, with support coming from the poet Murray Lachlan Young. Richard Thompson performed an at times moving, and at times amusing show at Stafford Gatehouse last week (his 3 minute re-write of Shakespear's Hamlet was one of many highlights). I'm going to see IQ at Shepherds Bush Empire tomorrow. If anyone is interested in their live tapes let me know off list. CHRIS - --------------------------------------- FROST C.N fh523124@stmail.staffs.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 22:32:50 +2909 From: dlang Subject: Re: RH, RT, & JC Eric Loehr wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, luther wrote: > > > Ah, Another mention of RT (nice quote from the liner notes > > from "Watching the Dark") on the Robyn list. > > Ok, one more time: > > How many people are fan(atics)/ list members of both Richard > > thompson and robyn hitchcock (oh, and for that matter, patti smith?) > > > > OK, I'll stand up and be counted -- I've also been on the Richard > Thompson > list for several years; not Patti Smith, but I am on the Kinks list > (among others). > > Eric Me too, I *cling* to RT madly as well as that nice Mr Hitchcock fellow and have been on the Rt list for about eight months.There a lot of cross over between both lists, quite incestuous.I like Patti too, but not enough to get on her list.Dave Lang. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:00:43 -0500 From: TROYD1@Westat.com (TROYD1) Subject: Julian Cope James said: *>Q: I really dig "My Nation Underground". What other Julian Cope *>albums are good? *>(I kinda think that this is the album they were trying to copy when *>they produced Perspex Island...) *A: If you like MNU, try 20 Mothers, or possibly Jehovahkill. Or maybe *Saint Julian, which is Julian's most 'commercial'. Ease yourself into *the weirdness gradually - don't go all out for something like *Autogeddon straight off. I know some people rave about Peggy Suicide, *but I've never really liked it. Similarly I love 'Fried', but I know *some people who hate it. I guess that didn't help much... um... try *20 Mothers. Just felt the need to chip in here, as I'm a Cope fan, myself. If you dig _My Nation Underground_ (which, actually, is perhaps my least favorite), the next album I'd recommend you buy is _World Shut Your Mouth_. In fine Hitchcockian tradition, the hit single of that name doesn't appear on this LP. It's his first solo album after the demise of the Teardrop explodes, and it's 40 minutes of tuneful weirdness. From a musical standpoint, he plays it pretty straight - catchy 3-minute pop melodies - but his lyrics show more than a trace of lysergic enthusiasm. Great stuff, and it's usually the CD I use to introduce people to his music. If you like that, then move on to _Twenty Mothers_. Of course Miles and Mike Runion have probably already e-mailed you with much better advice, so, when in doubt, choose their words over mine! Dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:53:43 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: I'm sorry, but I HAD to. >Quail fluttered: > >>I do not want to see the list convulse into a "Grateful Dead -- suck or >>not?" spasm. > >Neither do I. Which is why I'm not contributing much to this thread anymore. Well, here's my $.02. It seems to me that most people don't object to the Dead per se, but the lifestyle of those who follow the band. Well, that's what I did, even though I hadn't heard a whole five minutes' worth of their music. Granted, I'm not their biggest fan, and I'm not too keen on the whole granola scene, but I just married a woman who spent quite a few days and nights dancing at Dead concerts, so I've been edified a bit. And, having heard them a little, it ain't so bad. At least it ain't Pearl Jam (ducking the flames...). Heh. >Not much discussion of the actual music, is there? ;) > >Who else has Gorky's Zygotic Mynci's new album Barafundle, dagnabbit? It >oughta appeal to both the modern UK popsters on the list AND the old-guard >proghead troop which seems to be blossoming lately.... Hey, I think I resemble the latter. Didn't Gorky's Zygotic Mynci have a cut on that Delerium dbl-comp CD that came out a year or two ago? Maybe I oughta check it out again. Are GZM in the Ozric vein, or the Porcupine Tree vein? Anybody else got those Steppes reissues? Any fans of Shub-Niggurath or Happy Family out there? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:45:58 -0800 From: Mike Runion Subject: Not another COPE post! Aaagh! Just a quicky to say my prayers have been answered. I never realized that this list was also a wellspring of Cope followers. What a great bunch you all are! My tenuous hold on "biggest Cope fan" is still intact, but my fingers are growing raw and the scrabbly cliff dirt keeps dropping in my eyes. Miles has a firm grip on my right foot and is trying to climb up. If I can just...shake him...loose... (the roar of the swells far below assault my ears) Maybe if I toss my COPECO copy of Droolian at him, or peg him in the eye with my purple-speckled vinyl 7" of "Profiteering", maybe...wait! My numbered 12" of "Heed: Of Penetration And The City Dweller"! That'll do it! YES! The morning air grows silent and the oppressive weight on my right leg suddenly is no more. I imagine I hear smatherings of the new Queen Elizabeth album drifting in the wind as I wait for the sickening thud from the rocks below... - -- Mike Runion Cocoa, FL, USA /******************************************************************\ | VCM: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/cones.htm | | Fegmaps: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/fegmaps | | Spoken Word Tape: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/wordtape.htm | \******************************************************************/ "Wait a minute. Time for a Planetary Sit-In!" - Julian Cope ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:23:00 -0600 From: Jim Moore Subject: WoMbAtS So quoth the Quail: >I do not want to see the list convulse into a "Grateful Dead -- suck or >not?" spasm. Next comes Macs vs PCs, Socialism vs. Capitalism, John vs. >Paul, and finally the worst -- wombats vs. rock wallabies. So I am sorry >for being just as guilty, but I had to write this short note: I, for one, must put my vote in for the wombats. I've never actually seen a live wombat (only photos) but I must admit that I've had a certain fascination with them ever since I was about 8 years old. In fact, when I was in junior high, I made up a mythical story about a wombat that lived in Guam--a very prodigious wombat--the only of its kind--and I called him "Guambat". Many years later, when signing up for email I used that same moniker for my ID. So, definitely wombats. Robyn, if you're out there listening to us jabbering away like fiends on this feglist, please do something! We cannot stand the pain and disappointment of yet ANOTHER delay on this movie/soundtrack. Pretty soon we're going to turn skeptic and start believing this "Storefront Hitchcock" was just a big hoax cooked up by the late Jerry Garcia to befuddle us. Oh, and Robyn--if you're reading this--how about a song about wombats? Please?... Jim Moore The Guambat ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:17:34 -0500 (EST) From: lj lindhurst Subject: where's a good place to find concert listings? (that pretty much says it all- made you look!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 17:50:36 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: WoMbAtS I recently came across a wombat in one of those Patrick O'Brian Napoleonic wars books. The conversation went something like: Captain: Here, surgeon, this infernal wombat of yours is eating the gold lace off my hat". Surgeon: "Don't worry, he has a very strong digestion". - - Dikran Marsupial PS I wonder if I've still got that 'Golden Wombat of Destiny' adventure game... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 18:01:44 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Live embryonic crabs 'If you were a priest' has gone through a few changes. I have heard versions where 'please don't lock away your eyes' alternated with something like 'let me see your other side'. And the recent Andy Kershaw performance had some alterations, too. But I agree that the lyrics don't often change that much. On the other hand, the backing can alter dramatically - for example, that slow synth demo of 'Egyptian Cream' sounds completely barmy in comparison with the usual performance version. - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:14:15 EST From: MARKEEFE Subject: Re: WoMbAtS Isn't it the Police's "Any Other Day" that mentions a wombat? Something like, "And when the wombat comes, he'll find me gone". Now that I think about it, that sounds like the type of thing Robyn might write. I wonder if Robyn was ever a Police fan. Sting's gotten so damn boring over the years that my appreciation of the Police is somewhat tainted, but I still think "Regatta de Blanc" was a damn fine record. And, if Robyn ever were a fan, would he own up to it? Anyway, there are some rambling thoughts for you, inspired by the word "wombat". Maybe we should just continue to generate semi-randomly selected words like that and see where it takes us. . . seein' as how we won't be dissecting the latest RH release(s) for another EIGHT MONTHS or more! - ------Michael K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:36:38 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: seeking Qrys (no RH) Does anyone know the whereabouts of Christopher Donnell ? sorry about the noise =b ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:09:01 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Gorky's (yet another "stabbing," nasty post from Eb) Gene wrote: >>Who else has Gorky's Zygotic Mynci's new album Barafundle, dagnabbit? It >>oughta appeal to both the modern UK popsters on the list AND the old-guard >>proghead troop which seems to be blossoming lately.... > >Hey, I think I resemble the latter. Didn't Gorky's Zygotic Mynci have a >cut on that Delerium dbl-comp CD that came out a year or two ago? Maybe I >oughta check it out again. Are GZM in the Ozric vein, or the Porcupine >Tree vein? Oh, no no no. Nothing like that ilk . No long-winded evolutional jamming, show-off solos, prog wankery, etc. Sorry to mislead. It's clearly more in the "modern UK pop" vein, but the intricate arrangements and strong trad-folk underpinnings actually remind me of Genesis' Selling England by the Pound. It's quite unusual and distinctive. I liked the first US Gorky's album (Introducing..., which was a compilation of previous import-only tracks), but the second album is quite different -- much more acoustic and folk-based. I was actually disappointed the first time I played it, because it so defied my expectations. But now, I like it BETTER than Introducing.... I don't reverse like that too often -- most of the time, my initial impressions are fairly durable. The band is Welsh, and there's a real "alien" quality to their music. You can TELL it comes from another culture, kinda like when you heard the Sugarcubes for the first time. They even write songs in Gaelic (the new album includes "Pen Gwag. Glas," "Meirion Wyllt" and "Hwyl Fawr I Pawb"...can anyone translate?). Of course, it's not selling worth a damn in the States, and Mercury isn't even willing to invest in a US tour. Which really bums me out. :/ Oh, and I previously saw the Introducing... disc in Wherehouse's bargain bin too. In other news: I saw Victoria Williams perform last night. Her new songs are good, and the band was fascinating (eleven people onstage!). But boy, her voice sure isn't what it used to be. No "projection," no chest cavity in it. It's probably due to the MS. :/ I watched Winona Ryder, looking ravishing as ever with "butterscotch"-dyed hair, talking to people near me in the club lobby.... Eb PS I don't know anything about the "Delerium dbl-comp CD." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:39:37 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Gorky's Zygotic Mynci >Eb wrote: > >> The band is Welsh, and there's a real "alien" quality to their music. You >> can TELL it comes from another culture, kinda like when you heard the >> Sugarcubes for the first time. They even write songs in Gaelic (the new >> album includes "Pen Gwag. Glas," "Meirion Wyllt" and "Hwyl Fawr I >> Pawb"...can anyone translate?). > >I haven't been keeping up on my studies (shame on me) but I'll give it a >go: >Empty Head. Blue >Fiendish Stewards (I'm *sure* that's wrong, but close) >Goodbye everybody "Goodbye Everybody" makes sense, because it's next to last in the original album order...and I think the last song is just a short instrumental, if I remember right. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:44:08 -0800 From: Debora Subject: Re: Gorky's Zygotic Mynci Eb wrote: > The band is Welsh, and there's a real "alien" quality to their music. You > can TELL it comes from another culture, kinda like when you heard the > Sugarcubes for the first time. They even write songs in Gaelic (the new > album includes "Pen Gwag. Glas," "Meirion Wyllt" and "Hwyl Fawr I > Pawb"...can anyone translate?). I haven't been keeping up on my studies (shame on me) but I'll give it a go: Empty Head. Blue Fiendish Stewards (I'm *sure* that's wrong, but close) Goodbye everybody There are others on the list who could correct those; Dave, James? Debora ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:06:05 -0500 From: MCINTYRE@pa.msu.edu Subject: re: Tangerine Dream evolution >From: jeffery vaska >i have a question...which came first kraftwerk or tangerine dream? and >what nationality is tangerine dream? It's pretty much a tie; maybe Tangerine Dream has a slight edge. Both have changed considerably from their early days; i.e., they learned how to play melodies. (-8 Both are German. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:43:45 PST From: "Terence DiSandro" Subject: Spectre Fer Sale How do: I have 1 extra copy of the A&M 1993 Interview/Music Promo, SPECTRE. $ 15 US. I'll pay for the shipping w/i the US. Lemme know! - - Terence ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:46:32 -0500 (EST) From: Allison Elizabeth Achauer Subject: Re: Seafood, gf, and punk folk. Who's this Robyn guy? Excerpts from internet.music.fegmaniax: 21-Jan-98 Seafood, gf, and punk folk... by James Dignan@stonebow.ot > Not that you'd see me sitting down to > a meal of roast leg of insurance salesman (10 points for anyone who > recognises THAT quote!) Would that be Flanders and Swann, "I Won't Eat People"? (or some such) allison ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 16:31:16 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Is Robyn lurking ? >Dare I ask who is lurking for Robyn, sifting posts and feeding him >information about threads on fegmaniax? Maybe it's Tim from Homer ( he's >of the right age group receptive to webby stuff) , or Eb (Robyn was pretty >fierce and grumpy last night which reminded me of Eb) or maybe Randi from >Canada who seems to have inside Robyn knowledge. Allow me to pose a little conjectural organon here (I won't make too much mess...): Hitchcock, or,. as us norflunnuners would have you pronounce it, 'itchcock. Break that word in two. Itch. Something that you need to scratch, scrape or grate with your fingernails. Cock. A male bird. Put them back together. Grate. Bird. Great Bird? A true Bird's Head? Presumably one that is both filthy and happy. Now who do we know that goes by a name something like "The great bird" (other than Charlie Parker, that is, and that vertical yellow ant-eater from Sesame Street) James (quailing in the terror that he may have stumbled onto something...) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 17:01:19 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: um... I'm not sure there is one >> Ok, one more time: >> How many people are fan(atics)/ list members of both Richard >>thompson and robyn hitchcock (oh, and for that matter, patti smith?) NP - Wave. soon to be playing - Shoot out the lights. In queue to be played - Blues for Allah, The Blue Mask, and Abba: the album. Any questions? >I do not want to see the list convulse into a "Grateful Dead -- suck or >not?" spasm. Next comes Macs vs PCs, Socialism vs. Capitalism, John vs. >Paul, and finally the worst -- wombats vs. rock wallabies. So I am sorry >for being just as guilty, but I had to write this short note: I've never understood how anyone could ever consider rock wallabies as a viable option. No grace, no finesse, no bucket seats. Now a good wombat on the other hand... James (who still owns his wombat, from when he used to play wom) James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 20:43:21 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Debunking James wrote: >Allow me to pose a little conjectural organon here (I won't make too much >mess...): > >Hitchcock, or,. as us norflunnuners would have you pronounce it, 'itchcock. > >Break that word in two. Itch. Something that you need to scratch, scrape or >grate with your fingernails. > >Cock. A male bird. > >Put them back together. Grate. Bird. Great Bird? A true Bird's Head? >Presumably one that is both filthy and happy. > >Now who do we know that goes by a name something like "The great bird" >(other than Charlie Parker, that is, and that vertical yellow ant-eater >from Sesame Street) Ah, but the Great Quail spends hours and hours maintaining his acclaimed website, while Mr. 'Itchcock is generally hostile toward computers. Quod erat demonstratum, or whatever you say. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 00:26:15 EST From: Hedblade Subject: ICE request Feggers, Hey, can anyone post the web address for ICE magazine? I seem to recall someone here posted it awhile back. Thanks! Blinking On And Off... Jay H. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 00:43:54 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: disembunking > Ah, but the Great Quail spends hours and hours maintaining his acclaimed > website, while Mr. 'Itchcock is generally hostile toward computers. ah, that's what he *wants* you to think anyway... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 00:26:37 -0600 From: "Gregory S. Shell" Subject: Randomly Generated wOmbaTS On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, MARKEEFE wrote: > "wombat". Maybe we should just continue to generate semi-randomly > selected words like that and see where it takes us. . . seein' as how > we won't be dissecting the latest RH release(s) for another EIGHT > MONTHS or more! Yeah that sucks, ooh well. We have something to do until then, so here is my semi-randomly generated word of the week - PLANULA, which are usually free-swimming ciliated larva of a coelenterate. Regards, Gregory S. Shell Subversive Specialist and Planula, therefore coral respecting - System Analyst ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 22:35:51 -0800 (PST) From: "Chris, the missing years." Subject: Re: ICE request > > Hey, can anyone post the web address for ICE magazine? I seem to recall > someone here posted it awhile back. Thanks! > www.icemagazine.com .chris ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #28 ******************************