From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #19 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, January 17 1998 Volume 07 : Number 019 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [John Barrington Jones ] re: album names, ice ["Matthew Knights" ] Re: GLR best 100 artists ever [Eb ] Re: G.LOVE [firstcat@lsli.com] Re: FratRock [Mike Runion ] Re: that chicago shrine thing [Marshall Joseph Armintor ] No Robyn content in #18 [vince ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #18 [Carole Reichstein ] Re: Thoth apparition [Nick Winkworth ] Re: Wine, wine, wine, whine, wine [Jason Thornton ] Re: FratRock [Eugene ] Re: No Robyn content in #18 [Gregory Stuart Shell ] Re: FratRock [Mike Runion ] Re: Fegrock [Mike Runion ] 80's esoterica [kenster@MIT.EDU (central services)] Re: No Robyn content in #18 [Terrence M Marks ] Re: FratRock [jeffery vaska ] set list help for 1-10-98 [plpalmer@ix.netcom.com] Random Robyn Generator (almost) [firstcat@lsli.com] selling robyn records [jeffery vaska ] Re: the 80's and eno [The Great Quail ] Re: No Robyn content in #18 [Eb ] Re: it came from the early 80's...in cars. [jeffery vaska ] Re: Wine, wine, wine, whine, wine [amadain ] Re: the 80's and eno [firstcat@lsli.com] Re: set list help for 1-10-98 [amadain ] Set the Twilight Failing [Eb ] No subject given ["Terry Linnig"] Re: Feelin' Groovy [Eb ] 180...360 [Nos Ferraatu ] Pigworker lyrics [nicastr@IDT.NET (Ben)] plea from a deprived analog taper [hal brandt ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 00:06:58 -0800 From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Just watching Kenneth Branagh on Letterman. Its a shame he and Emma Thompson aren't together anymore. I don't know much about their real lives together, but I thought they were the quintessential UK couple on screen. I probably cared more about the Ken/Emma split than I did about Di or Fergie and their divorces. 'night mother, john ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:11:33 -0000 From: "Matthew Knights" Subject: re: album names, ice >At 10:49 AM 1/15/98 -0800, Tom Clark wrote: > >>>If album names were required by law to be unique, we'd be in deep trouble >>>trying to figure out who owns the rights and the royalties to all records >>>called "Live". >> >>And "Greatest Hits"! > >Or "Eponymous," for that matter. ;) > >Or "Chicago." ;) Now that's what I call music! _________________________________________________________________ Matthew Knights mknights@harrywasp.prestel.co.uk `Ton ame est un lac d'amour dont mes desirs sont les cygnes...' _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:13:16 -0000 From: Gary Sedgwick Subject: GLR best 100 artists ever Something I meant to mention a couple of weeks ago... GLR (Greater London Radio, run by the BBC) had a 'best 100 artists ever' poll at the end of last year. Now Robyn does quite well on GLR (So You Think You're In Love gets played a lot, curiously), but I wasn't expecting him to appear in the top 100. Even more surprising: I think they were counting down 72 to 70, the artists were Bruce Springsteen, then John Lennon, then Robyn Hitchcock. Still, it was a fairly odd list; if I remember correctly, the top 5 were The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, Van Morrison... and at no. 1, The Clash! Oh, and Nick Drake came pretty high up as well. Gary ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 02:50:08 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: GLR best 100 artists ever >Something I meant to mention a couple of weeks ago... GLR (Greater >London Radio, run by the BBC) had a 'best 100 artists ever' poll at the >end of last year. Now Robyn does quite well on GLR (So You Think You're >In Love gets played a lot, curiously), but I wasn't expecting him to >appear in the top 100. Even more surprising: I think they were counting >down 72 to 70, the artists were Bruce Springsteen, then John Lennon, >then Robyn Hitchcock. Still, it was a fairly odd list; if I remember >correctly, the top 5 were The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, >Van Morrison... and at no. 1, The Clash! Did Peter Schilling rank? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 98 09:00:58 From: firstcat@lsli.com Subject: Re: G.LOVE Ah, but some of the most fun I get to have is when we're hiring and some obvious Frat type comes through and I say "So what Frat were you a member of?" "[insert name of frat]" "Oh, yeah, I wanted to join them when I went to school, but they blackballed me." They really sqirm when they hear that... - --- On Fri, 16 Jan 1998 01:15:10 -0600 Dave Librik wrote: >jeffery vaska wrote: >>but you have to admit that anything "frat boys" play is pretty much crap >>right? huh...? way back in 1997 the first time i heard the frat house >>down the street from my college apartment cranking RUSH - "2112", i >>pretty much wrote that band off for good - geewiz. > >I knew in my heart of hearts that justice had come to the world when >I heard _Globe Of Frogs_ blasting out of a window of the Tau Kappa >Epsilon house, one glorious summer day in 1988. > >- David Librik - -----------------End of Original Message----------------- - ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall Channel Sales Director Livermore Software Laboratories, Intl. 2825 Wilcrest, Suite 160 Houston, Texas 77042-3358 1-713-974-3274 jay@lsli.com Date: 1/16/98 No man is an island unless his name is Madagascar. - ------------------------------------- Brought to you by The Upper Left Light Corporation, illuminating virtual buttons and boxes from the upper left since 1988. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:42:19 -0800 From: Mike Runion Subject: Re: FratRock Is is fair to say that frat rock is alive and kicking these days and has overrun the airwaves? Horrible visions of starry nights spent puking behind hedges (no, not John) and roving hoards of buff buzzcuts performing cheesy homecoming skits in dresses on the Student Union Patio assault me ever time I hear 311, Sugar Ray, Bosstones, Smashmouth, and on and on and on...even, I'm sorry to say, the Beasties. I starting to twitch uncontrollably. I have to go. Mike n.p. Beatles - Abbey Road - -- Mike Runion Cocoa, FL, USA /******************************************************************\ | VCM: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/cones.htm | | Fegmaps: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/fegmaps | | Spoken Word Tape: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/wordtape.htm | \******************************************************************/ "Wait a minute. Time for a Planetary Sit-In!" - Julian Cope ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:52:57 -0600 (CST) From: Marshall Joseph Armintor Subject: Re: that chicago shrine thing <> It's called Demon Dogs (because of its proximity to DePaul University...their mascot's the Blue Demon, for those not familiar with college basketball in the US). Not only is it an temple dedicated to Chicago and DePaul, but they've also inexplicably got various bits of Aerosmith and Poison (?) memorabilia/guitars/autographed breasts, etc. on display. No RH pictures that I can remember. Anyway, I visted this place last July, when I was in town for a friend's wedding. I was with my fiancee and my unbalanced ogre/pal Keith & his girlfriend; we were driving across the city and he started muttering, "There's this awesome place to eat I know about -- DEMON DOGS! We GOTTA go there!" We did...but he turned on his heel and walked out rather suddenly when he discovered they didn't have a bathroom..."It was the principle of the thing," he was heard to grumble later. Marshall ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:28:00 -0600 From: Jim Moore Subject: Wine It doesn't matter what kind of wine one drinks while listening to a Robyn song as long as you've got a suitcase and a skull and the bottle you drink from is red and long Jim Moore ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:25:45 -0600 (CST) From: vince Subject: No Robyn content in #18 Wow, an entire digest with no Robyn Hitchcock content whatsoever. Am I the only person who doesn't bother to read many digests because of this fact? vince ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:25:00 -0800 (PST) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V7 #18 Jeffrey Vaska wrote: > ps: is robyn best with red or white wine...? and which cheese is most > appropriate? do we have any robyn/food preferences out there? *Definitely* RED wine. Cheese? I like a nice, mellow, ripe brie myself. Gorgonzola a bit too strong. And if I get the chance, I like to make some sort of seafood dish before seeing Robyn. Linguine with prawns makes a fine Robyn appetizer. - -Carole ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:28:24 -0800 From: jeffery vaska Subject: Re: FratRock whoa, wait a minute, when i began to make fun of frat rockers etc., i was really making fun of those who make fun of them (and also the worst of the lot - those who call themselves critics). now, i've had my fair share of experiences with those of the greek (not the nationality) persuasion, but i think it's a bit much to say that their music sucks. my niece who is 7 LOVES the spice girls...i don't though, and i don't care. if i had a serious problem with her then maybe i would absolutely loathe the spice girls then. being snobby is good for the soul i believe, but be sure that you (ALL OF US - underlined) can take our own medicine too. on the flipside, i'm sure that right now, all across the country their are frat types who are saying that people who listen to folk-rock are fags. and do any of us really care? and do they care what we think? AND don't be dissin' on the beasties - that's blasphemous...are there many people like them around who consistently bring new VALID talent to the front? who are actually involved with finding and helping to discover new sounds... have you ever checked out the grand royal discography? they've got WAY more integrity then you give them credit for... the airwaves? turn off the radio - start your own pirate radio - try something completely new. do you have a stereo? alright, sorry if i went too far, i do mean this all respectfully. so you don't like 311, sugar ray, the bosstones, smashmouth, the beasties, frat boys, homecoming dances, and cheesy skirts, but that's just the way you are. and that's just the way they are. in ten years they'll all be listening to old beatles records anyways (like most of us i'm sure). jv Mike Runion wrote: > > Is is fair to say that frat rock is alive and kicking these days and has > overrun the airwaves? Horrible visions of starry nights spent puking > behind hedges (no, not John) and roving hoards of buff buzzcuts > performing cheesy homecoming skits in dresses on the Student Union > Patio assault me ever time I hear 311, Sugar Ray, Bosstones, Smashmouth, > and on and on and on...even, I'm sorry to say, the Beasties. > > I starting to twitch uncontrollably. I have to go. > Mike > > n.p. Beatles - Abbey Road > -- > Mike Runion Cocoa, FL, USA > /******************************************************************\ > | VCM: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/cones.htm | > | Fegmaps: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/fegmaps | > | Spoken Word Tape: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/wordtape.htm | > \******************************************************************/ > > "Wait a minute. Time for a Planetary Sit-In!" > - Julian Cope ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:59:38 -0800 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: Re: Thoth apparition Russ prostrated himself thusly... > turned on the lights in my studio this morning and what should appear > on the wall but an eerie likeness of the thoth! > I tried to snap a picture with the digital camera but it's too dark, > and of course the shadow disappears when you use a flash. Two words: tripod, time-exposure There's a space waiting for you on the Fegfotos page... ~N ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:03:31 -0800 From: Jason Thornton Subject: Re: Wine, wine, wine, whine, wine At 11:28 AM 1/16/98 -0600, you wrote: >It doesn't matter what kind of wine >one drinks while listening to a Robyn song >as long as you've got a suitcase and a skull >and the bottle you drink from is red and long I don't know that I've ever seen wine in a red bottle. Usually, red wine seems to come in dark green bottles, which strikes me as Hitchcockian enough. White and pink wine tends to come in yellowish or clear bottles. Some wine comes in boxes, which, I suppose could easily be made red and long. How much longer is a "long...bottle of wine" anyway, in comparison to a normal, less long bottle of wine? The suitcase is easy enough. Prying the skull out of the flesh of your freshly killed neighbor's head can be a bitch, though. - --Jason Thornton (currently relaxing with a severed head, a duffel bag, and a short, squat dark green bottle of red wine) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:35:44 -0500 (EST) From: Eugene Subject: Re: FratRock On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, jeffery vaska wrote: > > being snobby is good for the soul i believe, but be sure that you (ALL > OF US - underlined) can take our own medicine too. on the flipside, i'm > sure that right now, all across the country their are frat types who are > saying that people who listen to folk-rock are fags. and do any of us > really care? and do they care what we think? > First of all, folk-rock is faggy. And second, frat guys don't know about folk-rock. -Eugene p.s. just in case there is any confusion, I am kidding. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "One of the smartest comedy nights in town." - The Boston Phoenix The Lounge Soot: A night of alternative comedy Every Thursday at 10:30 at the Green Street Grill in Central Square 280 Green Street Cambridge, MA $3 My humor homepage: http://hamp.hampshire.edu/~ebmF92/index.html New! Weekly Week Homepage: http://www.weeklyweek.com (Boston's only redundant news source for news) - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:15:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Gregory Stuart Shell Subject: Re: No Robyn content in #18 On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, vince wrote: > Wow, an entire digest with no Robyn Hitchcock content > whatsoever. Am I the only person who doesn't bother > to read many digests because of this fact? No. You are one of a probable growing number of disgruntled fegs who do not read the digests and do an auto-delete on many posts with contain things like "frat boy", "chicago transit authority" and the"beastie boys" I mean give it a fucking break. Politics and religion is bad enough but fratboyphobia is fucking ridiculous. Regards, Gregory S. Shell Subversive Specialist System Analyst ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:22:55 -0800 From: Mike Runion Subject: Re: FratRock Ah...stop, rewind, disconnect. My intent was not to dis any genres of music, or even, god-willin', frat boys. I was just expressioning certain annoying associations that were permanently ingrained into my spongy skull during four long years of collegiate-life (85-89, by the way). And yes, dissin' the beasties is blasphemous...that's why I said the association was "unfortunate". It's sorta like seeing "Microsoft" imprinted on the back of my eyelids in big hideous blue and white letters now whenever I hear Bowie's "Heroes". (No "Don't you dis Microsoft!" replies, please) Actually, in my day, the big Frat Rockers were things like Hooters, Huey Lewis, John Cougar, LL Cool J, Beastie Boys, and Skinny Puppy (don't ask!) Back to it, Mike n.p. Julian Cope - Interpreter jeffery vaska wrote: > when i began to make fun of frat rockers etc., i was really making fun > of those who make fun of them... > it's a bit much to say that their music sucks... > don't be dissin' on the beasties - that's blasphemous... > alright, sorry if i went too far, i do mean this all respectfully. so > you don't like 311, sugar ray, the bosstones, smashmouth, the beasties, > frat boys, homecoming dances, and cheesy skirts...-- Mike Runion Cocoa, FL, USA /******************************************************************\ | VCM: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/cones.htm | | Fegmaps: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/fegmaps | | Spoken Word Tape: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/wordtape.htm | \******************************************************************/ "Wait a minute. Time for a Planetary Sit-In!" - Julian Cope ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:29:53 -0800 From: Mike Runion Subject: Re: Fegrock > i'm sure that right now, all across the country their are frat types > who are saying that people who listen to folk-rock are fags. Ha ha. Those frat types, sheesh, always getting 'feg' and 'fag' mixed up. What a riot there are... Mike (pathetically hoping that humor is plainly evident in at least one of his posts today) n.p. David J - Song From Another Season - -- Mike Runion Cocoa, FL, USA /******************************************************************\ | VCM: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/cones.htm | | Fegmaps: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/fegmaps | | Spoken Word Tape: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/wordtape.htm | \******************************************************************/ "Wait a minute. Time for a Planetary Sit-In!" - Julian Cope ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:00:21 -0500 From: kenster@MIT.EDU (central services) Subject: 80's esoterica >KEN! adding onto the list of the important....the early Clash stuff was >brilliant, and their evolution interesting to watch--not a full 360, but >up in the mid-340's (same, by the by, when you look at something like >"Bricklayer" compared to "Sunspots"(and a cookie to anyone other than Eb >who gets that one right...)) _land speed record_ compared to _workbook_? >Lou Reed: brilliant in '68, and still doing it. I don't care what >people say, "Twilight" was a great disc. don't let anyone (like Eb) tell you different! see him live with his current band if you get a chance. >Billy bragg: saw him over the summer for the first time, and I was >blown away....very, very good. how many new fans does billy have since he toured with robyn do ya think? > Ya know, a common link between a lot of the best music of the >ronald ray-gun years was brian eno. > think about the people he worked with/ influenced: Talking >heads, U2, david bowie, tangerine dream, robert fripp, brian ferry.... > can you think of any more? > > Also, how would an album of uncle bobby produced by eno sound? probably a lot like _respect_. KEN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:51:53 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: No Robyn content in #18 > Wow, an entire digest with no Robyn Hitchcock content > whatsoever. Am I the only person who doesn't bother > to read many digests because of this fact? Oddly, I stopped reading the Moody Blues, Beach Boys and Kinks digests because they were nothing but relevant content (and Frank Lima, but that's another story). Simply put, we talk about Robyn's activities faster than he does them. If, for instance, Andy, Morris and Kimberly were all touring as well, we'd have enough to talk about. But we don't. Of course, you could always start a thread or try to figure out the chords to "Out of the Picture" Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:02:04 -0800 From: jeffery vaska Subject: Re: FratRock Eugene wrote: > > First of all, folk-rock is faggy. And second, frat guys don't > know about folk-rock. isn't robyn a folk-rocker? can anybody back me up on this (possibly good thread material)? i actually have a bootleg where he says something like "we have just entered the folk-rock portion of the show...", of course, he could have been just making up more words. and yes, that was kind of my point...frat guys only know about what they choose to know and accept - same with me and you and all of us. how can one single out a group of people and then say that "their" music sucks? it just seems odd to me... then again, i absolutely HATE klezmer music, but i don't hate jewish people. oh yeah...jv ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:00:09 -0700 From: plpalmer@ix.netcom.com Subject: set list help for 1-10-98 I=92m trying to make up a J-card and I need some help figuring out the names to some of the songs Robyn played in his second set at Largo on the 10th. I don=92t own any Dylan, Beatles, Stones, or Velvet albums, so I=92m at your mercy whenever Robyn starts doing covers. 1. It starts with Buddy Holly=92s Peggy Sue. 2. I think this is either a Stones or a Lou Reed song. Robyn sounds like he=92s trying to sound like Jagger here, but I don=92t know the name= .=20 Here are some lyrics: =93She started shaking to that fine, fine music. Her life was saved by rock and roll, yes rock and rock. Despite all the computations, you could dance to the rock and roll station. And it was all right. It was all right.=94 3. Soul Kitchen. 4. I think this is a Beatles=92 song. Although it could be Lennon solo. =93Yes, I=92m lonely, wanna die. If I ain=92t dead already....girl you k= now the reason why=94 5. This is a medley of a song I think is called I Got A Feeling with Tracks Of My Tears sung by Grant Lee Phillips stuck in the middle. =93I got a feeling, a feeling deep inside, oh yeah=94 6. I think this song is called I=92ll Be Your Mirror. This sounds like Lou Reed again. Actually it sounds a lot like Femme Fatale. =93I=92ll be your mirror, reflect who you are in case you don=92t know. = I=92ll be the wind the rain and the sunset...=94 7. Bells Of Rhymney(aborted after a verse). 8. Everybody Must Get Stoned. 9. Here Robyn says they=92re going to play Blonde On Blonde and then you can go to bed. =93Well early in the morning, and late at night. I=92ve got a poison headache, but I feel all right. I=92ve given my time to you...open your=20 _______, too.=94 10. Sounds like Baby Be Good. =93It=92s all in your mind, I think I=92m falling down. It=92s all in yo= ur mind, I think I=92m upside down. Baby be good, do what you should, you know it will work all right. 11. Another medley Robyn sings I Got Hair to the tune of I Feel Love and Jon Brion turns this into For Your Love. If anyone knows any or all of these songs, please let me know. Peter ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 98 15:01:20 From: firstcat@lsli.com Subject: Random Robyn Generator (almost) The closest to a random RH lyric generator I've seen. http://pharmdec.wustl.edu/cgi-bin/jardin_scripts/SCG - ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall Channel Sales Director Livermore Software Laboratories, Intl. 2825 Wilcrest, Suite 160 Houston, Texas 77042-3358 1-713-974-3274 jay@lsli.com Date: 1/16/98 - ------------------------------------- Though I may never see you again, I wish you the warmest clam chowder,the finest of embalmings, and the best in stainless steel cadaver pans that money can buy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:21:43 -0800 From: jeffery vaska Subject: selling robyn records today i cleaned out some of my cd collection - it's over 700 strong and i just can't tolerate this beast anymore. i tried (TRIED) to sell back the new robyn greatest hits and groovy decay to two different stores - no takers...hmmmm. there is unfortunately probably a gluttony of these which have already been sold back... i was a little surprised with the results on these two though. oh well...i better do some work today...help me, i've started typing and i can't stop. szia...jv ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 98 17:35:06 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: the 80's and eno >> Ya know, a common link between a lot of the best music of the >>ronald ray-gun years was brian eno. >> think about the people he worked with/ influenced: Talking >>heads, U2, david bowie, tangerine dream, robert fripp, brian ferry.... >> can you think of any more? >> John Cale, John Cale, John Cale. Roxy Music (though I suppose with Ferry >>you covered that base, though I'd count it as a bit of a separate entity). Also Devo, Mobius, David Byrne (solo) and Zvuki Mu. . . . how can we forget Devo? - --Quailvo - ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail, K.S.C. | Literature Site - The Libyrinth: TheQuail@cthulhu.microserve.com | www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth www.rpg.net/quail | Vampire Site - New York by Night: riverrun Discordian Society | www.rpg.net/quail/NYBN 73 De Chirico Street | Arkham, Orbis Tertius 2112-42 | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:06:56 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: No Robyn content in #18 >Oddly, I stopped reading the Moody Blues, Beach Boys and Kinks digests >because they were nothing but relevant content. Well, in the Moody Blues' case, I can certainly see your objection. ;) As for the frat issue, bad ska and frat rock go hand in hand. Oh well, life is ugly. Personally, when I think of frat music, I always instantly think of Fishbone. Ugh. Eb, really dejected to see the "stay on topic" prigs surfacing...ordinarily, this is the one list I'm on which DOESN'T whine about such things continually ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:14:11 -0800 From: jeffery vaska Subject: Re: it came from the early 80's...in cars. > So, you are saying Gary Numan and Flock of Seagulls were pure > genius.... > Ok, I admit to being a closet Numan fan, but I don't know if I > agree with the rest... don't forget kraftwerk and yellow magic orchestra (ryuichi sakamoto)...predating the true "new wave" thing. in the early days (along with very early OMD) these guys kicked computer ass... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:10:55 -0800 From: jeffery vaska Subject: Re: FratRock > Actually, in my day, the big Frat Rockers were things like Hooters, Huey > Lewis, John Cougar, LL Cool J, Beastie Boys, and Skinny Puppy (don't > ask!) > > Back to it, > Mike geezus, that was like...12 years ago, right? practically ancient! i can still remember the days of dokken, iron maiden, cheap trick and such (of course i was in jr. high at the time). but THOSE were the days... i would go to the college record store and pick this stuff up. incidentally, BUTT ROCK tour of the century (MILLENIUM!) coming this summer. currently, i know that judas priest, quiet riot have reformed. of course, motly crue and ozzy are back at it. isn't poison touring again? i'm predicting that there will be a BUTT-ROCK-ala-PALOOZA or something will all this stuff. this will be an awesome summer of music with the aforementioned hitting the stages, beck and the beasties touring, and hopefully tons on new bands doing their stuff. is it just my mis-perception, or is there a ton of new interesting things being released these days? oh well, i better just shut my trap for another month or so... tschus...jv ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:35:31 -0600 (CST) From: amadain Subject: Re: Wine, wine, wine, whine, wine On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Jason Thornton wrote: > I don't know that I've ever seen wine in a red > bottle. Usually, red wine seems to come in dark > green bottles, which strikes me as Hitchcockian > enough. It was always my impression that Robyn -meant- "a long bottle of red wine", but didn't say that because it sounds awkward. > White and pink wine tends to come in yellowish > or clear bottles. Some wine comes in boxes, which, I > suppose could easily be made red and long. Some wine even comes in juice box form. It's rather short and squat. Actually I don't know if that's sold anymore, since probably someone has gotten it taken off the market because children might confuse it with fruit juice boxes or some such thing. > How much longer is a "long...bottle of wine" anyway, in comparison > to a normal, less long bottle of wine? Again, this is me, but I always pictured a very thin, long, dusty and old green glass bottle. I've not measured wine bottles recently, but I do recall having seen longer, thinner bottles of wine of wine around and about. > The suitcase is easy enough. Prying the skull out of the > flesh of your freshly killed neighbor's head can be a bitch, > though. Ah, you needn't go to the trouble. Isn't it possible to buy one from a medical school as a paperweight? I guess not. That was only in "Brideshead Revisited". Love on ya, Susan P.S. Ditto on what Terry says about other mailing lists (especially about Frank Lima- thank God he's not a Robyn fan!). Actually, much as I love Robyn, even I'd get bored talking about him all the time. You might skip over ten best lists or "frat rock" posts, but I'm happy to read those- what would be truly boring (IMHO) is a rehash of "the great lucky/mucky debate". ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 98 15:36:10 From: firstcat@lsli.com Subject: Re: the 80's and eno late 70s but, Genesis w/ Peter Gabriel....Daniel Lanois....Harold Budd... - --- On Fri, 16 Jan 98 17:35:06 -0400 The Great Quail wrote: >>> Ya know, a common link between a lot of the best music of the >>>ronald ray-gun years was brian eno. >>> think about the people he worked with/ influenced: Talking >>>heads, U2, david bowie, tangerine dream, robert fripp, brian ferry.... >>> can you think of any more? >>> John Cale, John Cale, John Cale. Roxy Music (though I suppose with Ferry >>>you covered that base, though I'd count it as a bit of a separate entity). > >Also Devo, Mobius, David Byrne (solo) and Zvuki Mu. . . . how can we >forget Devo? > >--Quailvo > > >---------------------------------+-------------------------------- >The Great Quail, K.S.C. | Literature Site - The Libyrinth: >TheQuail@cthulhu.microserve.com | www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth > www.rpg.net/quail | Vampire Site - New York by Night: >riverrun Discordian Society | www.rpg.net/quail/NYBN >73 De Chirico Street | >Arkham, Orbis Tertius 2112-42 | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** > >"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the >human mind to correlate all its contents." > -- H.P. Lovecraft - -----------------End of Original Message----------------- - ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall Channel Sales Director Livermore Software Laboratories, Intl. 2825 Wilcrest, Suite 160 Houston, Texas 77042-3358 1-713-974-3274 jay@lsli.com Date: 1/16/98 - ------------------------------------- Though I may never see you again, I wish you the warmest clam chowder,the finest of embalmings, and the best in stainless steel cadaver pans that money can buy. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:45:48 -0600 (CST) From: amadain Subject: Re: set list help for 1-10-98 > Here are some lyrics: >=20 > =93She started shaking to that fine, fine music. Her life was saved by > rock and roll, yes rock and rock. Despite all the computations, you > could dance to the rock and roll station. And it was all right. It was > all right.=94 >=20 "Rock and Roll" (!) by the Velvet Underground > 3. Soul Kitchen. Doors. =20 > 4. I think this is a Beatles=92 song. Although it could be Lennon solo. >=20 > =93Yes, I=92m lonely, wanna die. If I ain=92t dead already....girl you k= now > the reason why=94 "Yer Blues" from the White Album =20 > 5. This is a medley of a song I think is called I Got A Feeling with > Tracks Of My Tears sung by Grant Lee Phillips stuck in the middle. >=20 > =93I got a feeling, a feeling deep inside, oh yeah=94 "I've Got a Feeling" from Let It Be. =20 > 6. I think this song is called I=92ll Be Your Mirror. This sounds like > Lou Reed again. Actually it sounds a lot like Femme Fatale. >=20 > =93I=92ll be your mirror, reflect who you are in case you don=92t know. = I=92ll > be the wind the rain and the sunset...=94 "I'll be your mirror"- Velvet Underground. =20 > 8. Everybody Must Get Stoned. Dylan's "Rainy Day Women 12 & 35" from Blonde on Blonde (sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine when people call this "Everybody Must Get Stoned") =20 > 9. Here Robyn says they=92re going to play Blonde On Blonde and then you > can go to bed. >=20 > =93Well early in the morning, and late at night. I=92ve got a poison > headache, but I feel all right. I=92ve given my time to you...open your= =20 > _______, too.=94 "Pledging My Time", also from Blonde on Blonde. "I'm pledging my time/ To you/ Hoping you'll come through too". Sounds like either Robyn's enunciaton wasn't especially good or he got the lyrics mixed up. =20 > 10. Sounds like Baby Be Good. >=20 > =93It=92s all in your mind, I think I=92m falling down. It=92s all in yo= ur > mind, I think I=92m upside down. Baby be good, do what you should, you > know it will work all right. "What Goes On"- Velvet Underground. =20 God have mercy, child, you've got some serious record collection gaps! *grin* Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:15:22 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Set the Twilight Failing These stats might be of interest, in the intermittent Lou debate. Personally, I think by far the most "righteous" year-end critics' poll is the large Village Voice Pazz & Jop poll, which has been running since 1974. Here are *all* the Lou Reed albums which have finished in the top 40 of the yearly polls (you can search the lists on the Village Voice website). I'd say this list is somewhat generous, given the good showings of New Sensations and Legendary Hearts. But you'll notice the absence of Set the Twilight Reeling anyway. ;P 1974: Rock 'n' Roll Animal, placed 22nd [I'd rank it lower] 1978: Street Hassle, placed, 24th [I'd rank it higher] 1982: The Blue Mask, placed 5th [I'd rank it slightly lower] 1983: Legendary Hearts, placed 7th [I'd rank it way lower] 1984: New Sensations, placed 9th [I'd rank it way lower] 1989: New York, placed 3rd [I'd rank it lower] 1990: Songs for Drella (with Cale), placed 17th [I'd rank it higher] 1992: Magic & Loss, placed 16th [I'd rank it higher] I'm not saying this proves that Twilight is bad, but at least it proves that critics didn't care for it much -- even given Lou's status as a perennial critics' fave. (And needless to say, it wasn't a hot seller with the public, either.) I scanned through my own 1996 albums, and I'll probably rank Twilight around 60th. Square in the middle of the pack. I was going to search the database for John Cale showings, but the search link wasn't working quite properly. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 98 14:06:44 -0600 From: "Terry Linnig" Subject: No subject given ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:55:18 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Feelin' Groovy Susan wrote: >Dylan's "Rainy Day Women 12 & 35" (sorry, it's a pet >peeve of mine when people call this "Everybody Must Get Stoned") Ditto! :/ Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:13:02 -0800 From: Nos Ferraatu Subject: 180...360 At some point, Capuchin wrote: > Are you implying that they almost came back full circle > or did you mean 180 or do you use some other angle meas- > urement of which I was not previously aware? Alright, alright...so my math was off. 180 would be more like it, though. Possibly 190. They did evolve, however, into something quite different from where they began. Whether you, or I, or anyone like it or not isn't the point; it's just an evolution. How many times over the course of a band's career did they put out a new release and you found yourself saying, "God, what a completely shit album," and it dawns on you that they're going in a direction pretty far astray from where you wished they'd go? I'll admit that when I heard "Sandinista" (and "Combat Rock," for that matter) for the first time I was thinking to myself, "noooooo...." The same thing happened when I heard "Loaded." Here I'd heard all the hype and then found that damned Austin Powers intro on "Sweet Jane." It wasn't the song from Max's Kansas City, and that was all that mattered...for the time. I'll admit that Jones and Strummer missed the boat on a few things later in their career, but they were trying somehting different. And "Car Jam" is an excellent tune. It took a bit of time on the shelf, but now "Loaded" near the top of the list of Velvet's work in my mind. The second disc, though, is hard to beat... Anybody have any idea on a release date for "Storefront?" I thought I remembered hearing something about February? Have a good weekend, everyone! - -ferris. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 20:09:34 -0500 From: nicastr@IDT.NET (Ben) Subject: Pigworker lyrics Anybody have, or know where I can find, lyrics to "The Pigworker"? Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:22:42 -0700 From: hal brandt Subject: plea from a deprived analog taper Bayard wrote: > the Sea-Tac II tree is alive and growing. > DAThead fegs who are on the tree will get a radio show tacked on as filler > on their 60 meter tape. The source of this show is Cynthia P > I believe it's kcmu 6-7-97 If anyone wants to provide this radio show to an analog tape trader (that'd be me!), I'd love to hear from you offlist. Thanks for any help, /hal ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #19 ******************************