From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V7 #15 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, January 14 1998 Volume 07 : Number 015 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Preambulations and other matters... ["Chris, the missing years." ] No RH--but cool music just the same [Dede Davis ] Re: major tom [kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander)] Re: Puff the Magic Daddy [Ross Overbury ] Re: major tom [Tom Clark ] Plagiarism ["Matthew Knights" ] Best of 1997 (little RH) ["Matthew Knights" ] Best of 1998 List [The Great Quail ] Re: Duplicate album names [Tom Clark ] Re: Duplicate album names [Eb ] Re: Duplicate album names [normal@grove.ufl.edu] RE: Duplicate album names ["Bret" ] Re: Duplicate album names [amadain ] Re: major tom ["Elizabeth Morgan" ] Re: Live crabs and tape-ey trees [Nick Winkworth ] Re: Duplicate album names [Terrence M Marks ] more Robyn info then you'll ever need... [twofangs/randi spiegel ] oops...a little added info about Jam searching [twofangs/randi spiegel ] Re: SF Sorrow (no RH) [nicastr@IDT.NET (Ben)] Re: major tom [Hedblade ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 01:31:55 -0800 (PST) From: "Chris, the missing years." Subject: Preambulations and other matters... On these list things that people have produced, I have noticed two omissions of sorts. One is not in the album form, but should have been mentioned elsewhere at least. That is, Homer's Superkeen; smashing single I thought. Another is VUs Loaded, which my copy says (c) 1997 for the double disc. Indeed a reissue and redundant for the most part if you have the box set, but still a significant piece considering a lackluster year, IMHO. Also, to the tune of reissues, is the stellar Live in Coppenhagen [sp?] from Galaxy 500; a must have in my book, page 79. Other than the, I cannot comment on the general scope of '97 releases; as I bought not much more than a bakers dozen in albums all toll. And for films...I enter my third year without seeing one at all, I think!?! A final note on albums, the esteemed Mr. Tews was waxing poetically about VU's Live MXCLLMXCXLXXYXCXLL double set. Indeed this is good, but not as great as it may seem. This is in no small way associated with the fact that Lou Reed has marked his territory in a major way. There is little room for anyone else in the band save for them as backing musicians. A shame really, because Cale could have put in some of his own work and created something more diverse. And of course, with a lack of consumer-confusing freak-outs, there is room for improvement. Although, the Moe and Cale additions are fine, Lou's stamp overrides any input by the others. A shame really. Nonetheless, a fine live album given the [insert colorful metaphor here] of other live albums. ObHomer content: Has anyone on Yankee soil (or in the South, for that matter) had success in obtaining the Homer live cd or any other parapharanalia? I remember that either Carol or Karen [sp?] ordered the 7", but no word on anything else. Anyone?? Also, via a HomerNote (tm) that J Blair will be "back on-line with a new E-mail address soon," or words to that effect. Stay tuned. back to the cave, .chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 05:39:56 PST From: "Jeff Pearce" Subject: Spectre CD available I thought someone here might be interested in this. I was just browsing at Southland CD (www.southlandcd.com) and noticed they had Spectre available for $20 + shipping. Spectre is basically the Respect CD with Robyn providing commentary prior to each song. Jeff ps I have used Southland a couple of times and they seem to be reliable. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 06:19:47 -0800 (PST) From: Dede Davis Subject: No RH--but cool music just the same - ---It's a Hedblade! wrote: >... > 6) Jolene - Schubas > Just signed to Sire. Record in Feb. You've been warned! >... WooHoo! Someone else who appreciates great Alt-country! Jolene is the best thing to come out of Charlotte, NC, since...uh, since...hmm, uh...Lance crackers? Anyway, these guys rule. They've got a 6-song CD and a full-length CD ("Hell's Half-Acre") on a now-defunct label whose name escapes me--get those if you can find them. If not, e-mail me and I'll see what I can dig up. == Dede "Out of boredom/ I decided/ I'd get with it"--MCC _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:00:15 -0500 From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: Re: major tom > I also love this song (and am a huge Bowie fan). I think it's meant to >be an homage, as well as a continuation of the story (note: the parenthetical >title is "(Coming Home)"). Lyrical content aside, the music is inarguably >original (which is to say, not plageurized (sp?)). Leave poor Peter alone. >Isn't it bad enough he was an early 80's one-hit wonder, forever condemned to >be packaged and re-packaged alongside the likes of Kajagoogoo and Total Coelo? call it cosmic justice. it's a pretty good song though. here's the company it keeps: The Living in Oblivion: 80's Greatest Hits, Vol. 5: Major Tom (Coming Home) (Lodge,David/Schilling,Peter) Hyperactive (Dolby,Thomas) Promises, Promises (Byrne,Pete/Fisher,Rob) Promise (Farrington,Clive/Mann,Andre...) Vienna (Cann,Warren/Currie,Billy) Enola Gay (Orchestral Manoeuvres in th...) King in a Catholic Style (Daley,Gary/Johnson,Garry/Lu...) Steady (Lauper,Cyndi/Shear,Jules) Our Lips Are Sealed (Hall,Terry/Wiedlin,Jane) Pleasure and Pain (Chapman,Mike/Knight,Holly) Birds Fly (Whisper to a Scream) (McNabb,Ian) Honeythief (McElhone,J./Mcleod,A./Skinn...) I Wanna Be a Cowboy (Chatton,Brian/Ramsden,Nico/...) Captain of Her Heart (Haug,Felix/Maloo,Kurt) Love Changes (Everything) (Climie,Simon/Fisher,Rob/Mor...) More Than Physical (Aitken,Matt/Dollin,Sarah/Fa...) Vanity Kills (Fry,Martin/White,Mark) We Close Our Eyes (Cox,Peter/Drummie,Richard) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 98 13:22:31 EST From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: Puff the Magic Daddy > > Schilling explains the song by saying something like "Major Tom was just a > > name. It could've been Major Bob or Jim just as easily." Implying that he > > came up with the idea. Wow. Talk about lying through your teeth. :P > > Two things: > > First, writing about the same fictional INCIDENT isn't plagiarism. > Schilling uses all of his own words and music. He just took the event > described in Space Oddity and wrote another song about it. > That song is like a big-eyed black velvet painting of the Mona Lisa. Maybe Schilling shouldn't be sued, but he should be ashamed of himself. Hey, anybody want some ice? - -- Ross Overbury Bosnia West email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 98 10:22:01 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: major tom On 1/13/98 8:00 AM, Ken Ostrander wrote: >The Living in Oblivion: 80's Greatest Hits, Vol. 5: > >Major Tom (Coming Home) (Lodge,David/Schilling,Peter) >Hyperactive (Dolby,Thomas) >Promises, Promises (Byrne,Pete/Fisher,Rob) >Promise (Farrington,Clive/Mann,Andre...) >Vienna (Cann,Warren/Currie,Billy) >Enola Gay (Orchestral Manoeuvres in th...) >King in a Catholic Style (Daley,Gary/Johnson,Garry/Lu...) >Steady (Lauper,Cyndi/Shear,Jules) >Our Lips Are Sealed (Hall,Terry/Wiedlin,Jane) >Pleasure and Pain (Chapman,Mike/Knight,Holly) >Birds Fly (Whisper to a Scream) (McNabb,Ian) >Honeythief (McElhone,J./Mcleod,A./Skinn...) >I Wanna Be a Cowboy (Chatton,Brian/Ramsden,Nico/...) >Captain of Her Heart (Haug,Felix/Maloo,Kurt) >Love Changes (Everything) (Climie,Simon/Fisher,Rob/Mor...) >More Than Physical (Aitken,Matt/Dollin,Sarah/Fa...) >Vanity Kills (Fry,Martin/White,Mark) >We Close Our Eyes (Cox,Peter/Drummie,Richard) Note to self: Avoid "Living in Oblivion: 80's Greatest Hits, Vol. 5" - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:40:45 -0000 From: "Matthew Knights" Subject: Plagiarism Eb voted: On plagiarism, I was once told the Who's Tommy was theft of the concept of SF Sorrow by The Pretty Things. Personally, I've listened to SF Sorrow and Tommy and I can't see much common ground. Both albums are about an orphaned boy growing up but that's all although I've an open mind if someone else knows more about this. Matt _________________________________________________________________ Matthew Knights mknights@harrywasp.prestel.co.uk `Ton ame est un lac d'amour dont mes desirs sont les cygnes...' _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:44:47 -0000 From: "Matthew Knights" Subject: Best of 1997 (little RH) Hi, my end of year report for 1997 reads Music: Discovered Element of Light - thanks Bayard Discovered Nick Drake - thanks Fegs Saw Robyn’s stong live performance at Jazz Cafe in November. Thanks RH Saw Eddie Palmieri's awesome gig at Jazz Cafe. He came over from New York. Found my mothers copy of Parachute by The Pretty Things from 1969 (scratched but playable) Discovered _A prueba de Fuego_ by Gruppo Niche thanks Julian (my Colombian salsa teacher) Films: Basquat (Bowie's Warhol was worth seeing) Grosse Pointe Blank (a cooler Pulp Fiction) Men in Black (superficial I know but I’m a TLJ fan) Michelle & Romys Reunion (superficial but nice tonge in cheek stuff) Enjoyed walking out of Batman&Robin Disappointed by The Full Monty - all that unemployed, depression and grime got me down. The UK film industry seems to be polarised. You either get an arty ‘Bonham Carter’ style 18th century costume drama or a gritty real life job a la Trainspotting/Full Monty. Where's the middle ground ? Other Went freelance on Independance Day Bought my mother a new kitchen for her birthday Was a best man to my friend Mike ‘Gibbsy’ Gibbs Bought my Fiat Barchetta sports car (similar to a Miata) and nicknamed it Baby Blue. Finally learned how to dance salsa properly at salsa club ‘La Finca’ Islington, London. Thanks Julian. Matt _________________________________________________________________ Matthew Knights mknights@harrywasp.prestel.co.uk `Ton ame est un lac d'amour dont mes desirs sont les cygnes...' _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:04:30 -0000 From: "Matthew Knights" Subject: Duplicate album names Aidan remembered: < plus on a fourth as a compilation of the two, _Edge of the Land_ & _Turnaround_ are on Polydor GMBH> So K&The Waves have have an album out called _Edge of the Land_ ? I have a friend whose brother is in a folk band called Tanglefoot. Tanglefoot's album is out on CD and is also called _Edge of the Land_ . Legally, must album names be unique across all bands worldwide or is this not an issue. For example, what if the Spice Girls wanted to produce a third album called Moss Elixir, could they be stopped ? Matt _________________________________________________________________ Matthew Knights mknights@harrywasp.prestel.co.uk `Ton ame est un lac d'amour dont mes desirs sont les cygnes...' _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:45:57 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: SF Sorrow >On plagiarism, I was once told the Who's Tommy was theft of the concept of >SF Sorrow by The Pretty Things. Personally, I've listened to SF Sorrow and >Tommy and I can't see much common ground. Both albums are about an >orphaned boy growing up but that's all although I've an open mind if >someone else knows more about this. I heard that charge once somewhere too, but I don't think it's a significant link. SF Sorrow is a GREAT album, though -- I've never understood why it doesn't have a more renowned reputation. Hell, I don't think it's even in print in the States. It was available as an Edsel import for awhile, but Edsel doesn't even exist anymore, right? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 98 17:13:08 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Best of 1998 List Well, now that 1998 is over, I just wanted to be the first Feg to post my List of Favorites -- and what a wild, wacky and interesting year it has been, full of more surprises than we could have ever expected . . . Well, here we go: THE QUAIL'S TOP FIVE ALBUMS of 1998: 1. "The Newt-People From The Planet Bizz-Bing Wukka-Wukk" (Hanson) -- I mean, in the closing years of 1997, how could we have known? They seemed so innocent, so free, so . . . talentless. And yet, this double CD surely will top all our lists, the single most impressive psychedelic outing ever committed to album, from the first distorted guitar squeal to the last fading note of farfisa organ, from the black light Hanson poster to the roach clip included in the first 5000 pressings. Finally shedding their teenage MMmmmbop image, the Hanson brothers proved to be masterful songwriters, tautly weaving an amazing musical tapestry around the -- dare I say? -- brilliant narrative of Professor Spugle and the Newt People. Who can miss the pointed allegorical overtones, the trenchant criticism of modern society that illuminates this devastaing "Roman a clef?" Utterly devastating and satirizing the musical business, this is simply Jonathan Swift crossed with the Jimi Hendrix Experience! Especially welcome were the contributions of the Boston Symphony Orchestra, Karen Finley, the Orb, and the Bulgarian "Vox Mysteries" Choir of Voices, as was the Elder Hanson's astonishing skill on the Moog synthesizer. That solo! Iron Butterfly, eat your heart out! 2. "Girl Power" (Spice Girls) -- Only the Hansons surprised us more, but it was close -- the conversion of the Spice Girls to Postmarxist Postfeminist philosophy was pretty head-turning, and I must confess that I thought it was all a joke -- their sudden rebuke of the Royal family and Margaret Thatcher, their Internet manifesto repudiating consumerism and advanced stage capitalism, and finally their vehement disavowal of ther previous back catalog . . . . and when they exchanged Pepsi for NyQuil as corporate sponsor, I was sure that pointed towards a reason for this whole affair that certainly made more sense than anything else. But in the end they even gave up that sponsorship -- what can I say? "Girl Power" proved to be an amazing work, and suddenly all my Patti Smith and PJ Harvey albums just seemed to lose their sparkle. Changing their names to Wollstonecraft Spice, Steinem Spice, Dworkin Spice, MacKinnon Spice and Paglia Spice, these chicks were hot for girl power indeed, their awesome lyrics and brilliant musicianship delivering a crippling blow to phallocracy and patriarchy everywhere. Still, in my heart I thought it must be a new gimmick -- until Steinem Spice finally put all my fears to rest when she donated all the profits of their back catalog to ending female circumcision in the Third World. Wow! And that benefit song, recalling the heady days of "Do They Know It's Christmas" and "Feed the World," what a masterpiece. . . . 3. Stormfront Hitchcock (Robyn Hitchcock) -- of course Robyn would make my list, and it was so hard chosing which album version to select -- "Storefront Hitchcock?" "Stormdrain Potlatch?" "Sump-pump Pisspot?" But I decided to go with "Stormfront Hitchcock," the eight-track only album of rare film outtakes that finally brought Robyn to the masses. (Yes, new list members -- all twenty-three thousand of you! -- there was once a time when the average joe had no idea who Robyn was . . .) But that's all in the past now, thanks especially to "It's a Hedblade," the Summer's surprise hit single. Speaking of which, I sure hope he plays "Pissing with the Great Quail" at his upcoming show at RFK Stadium. . . . 4. "Im not Dead Yet, Godammit!" (Bob Dylan) -- a marvelous followup to 97's "Time out of Mind," Dylan once again proves that he's . . . well, alive, baffling, and astonishing critics once again. Another sad but moving album, my personal favorite tracks include "Shuffling and Mumbling Incoherently Towards the Light" and "Did I Really Once Write A Song Called 'Wiggle Wiggle?'" A great album all around! But the best moment has to be the lyric "I know I'm getting old/But what the Heck/Gonna disown that wallflower Jake/And adopt that kid named Beck." 5. "Let It Be" (Oasis) -- Wow! A wonderful idea, Borgesian in its startling brilliance. Oasis decided to record "Let It Be" -- but completely from scratch, without first listening to it, and without copping a single note! We all chuckled up our sleeve when the group announced their decision to sequester themselves in an effort to *become* the Beatles, to rethink themselves in such a way that the production of "Let It Be" -- note by note, lyric by lyric -- would be a *natural* and indeed *inevitable* progression of their music. The result is stunning. Of course, some critics complain that it's utterly indistinguishability from the Beatle's masterpiece detracts from its worth; indeed, even that Laibach did a better job -- but they are missing the point. How different the songs are coming from Oasis! The context, the times, the intent . . . "I Me Mine" by the Beatles was merely an extension of the radically guru-ized sixties thought, but when sung by Oasis it becomes so much more, an entire ode to selfishness that would make Ayn Rand blush. And "The Long and Winding Road" now takes its place in musical history as the natural sequel to "Wonderwall," rather than the mystic claptrap put out by the extinct Liverpuddlians. A brilliant work of sheer genius! (I just hope that Noel's affair with the chick from Cibo Matto doesn't really break up the band now. . . .) Indeed, who can deny that Oasis's bold move was not the inspiration for the new mixture of "Authentic Covers," as Spin Magazine aptly dubbed the movement. Pulp's "Kinks Greatest Hits," Phish's "Shakedown Street," Radiohead's "Saucerful of Secrets" and Beck's "Highway 61 Revisted" all owe their existence to the pioneers known as Oasis. Of course, of all these the best is XTC's "English Settlement." Those clever pomo bastards! Well, there you have it, my top five of 98. Although I must confess I had to leave a few good ones out, including Mark Gloster's "More Songs about Rubber Sharks and Quails;" the soundtrack to the new Costner rap-flick, "Puff Daddyworld;" and of course "Prodigy Unplugged." Looking forward to hearing your faves. . . . - --Quail - ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail, K.S.C. | Literature Site - The Libyrinth: TheQuail@cthulhu.microserve.com | www.rpg.net/quail/libyrinth www.rpg.net/quail | Vampire Site - New York by Night: riverrun Discordian Society | www.rpg.net/quail/NYBN 73 De Chirico Street | Arkham, Orbis Tertius 2112-42 | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 98 12:46:27 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Duplicate album names On 1/13/98 11:04 AM, Matthew Knights wrote: >Legally, must >album names be unique across all bands worldwide or is this not an issue. I don't know what the legal terminology is (artistic license?), but there's no real reason why this should be true. Case in point: The Beatles "Let It Be" The Replacements "Let It Be" Laibach "Let It Be" Voice Of The Beehive "Let It Bee" <-- stretching it a bit. Hell, the songs don't even have to be unique. Laibach's "Let It Be" is a _very_ loose interpretation of the Beatles album. I dig a pony, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:55:09 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Duplicate album names Tom wrote: >I don't know what the legal terminology is (artistic license?), but >there's no real reason why this should be true. > >Case in point: >The Beatles "Let It Be" >The Replacements "Let It Be" >Laibach "Let It Be" >Voice Of The Beehive "Let It Bee" <-- stretching it a bit. I own: In The Beginning (by the Byrds and Genesis) Hail (by He Said and Straitjacket Fits) Fairport Convention (same band, two different albums) Forever (by Simon Bonney and the Cranes) Blow (by Swallow and those ubiquitous Straitjacket Fits) Jamboree (by Beat Happening and Guadalcanal Diary) Let It Be (see above three) Suicide (same band, two different albums) Wish You Were Here (by Pink Floyd and Badfinger) Bewitched (by Luna and Andy Summers/Robert Fripp) Peter Gabriel (same artist, three different albums) Giant Steps (by John Coltrane and the Boo Radleys) Monster (by Fetchin Bones and REM) Compilation (by the Clean and Look Blue Go Purple) Made In USA (by Pizzicato Five and Sonic Youth) Silver Apples of the Moon (by Laika and Morton Subotnick) The Sound of Music (by Pizzicato Five and the dB's [I don't own the film soundtrack...]) Early Recordings (by Opal and Quasi) Not to mention "John Peel Sessions" albums by Wire and Billy Bragg, and five different albums called "Greatest Hits." And I own Lambchop's Thriller but not Michael Jackson's.... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:33:00 -0500 (EST) From: normal@grove.ufl.edu Subject: Re: Duplicate album names > So K&The Waves have have an album out called _Edge of the Land_ ? I have a > friend whose brother is in a folk band called Tanglefoot. Tanglefoot's > album is out on CD and is also called _Edge of the Land_ . Legally, must > album names be unique across all bands worldwide or is this not an issue. > For example, what if the Spice Girls wanted to produce a third album called > Moss Elixir, could they be stopped ? 1) You cannot copyright a title. 2) You can be sued if you have a misleading or libelous title. 3) Big labels may pressure you even if you aren't being misleading or libelous. I could call my album "Surfer Girl", "Songs from the big Chair", "Revolver" or "Underwater Moonlight", and neither The Beach Boys, Tears for Fears, The Beatles nor The Soft Boys could stop me, provided the cover art made it clear that it was a different album. I couldn't, for instance, put a picture of Elvis on it and call it Elvis' Greatest Hits (or put a big U2 on it and call it U2....) Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:16:36 -0600 From: "Bret" Subject: RE: Duplicate album names I could call my album "Surfer Girl", "Songs from the big Chair", "Revolver" or "Underwater Moonlight", and neither The Beach Boys, Tears for Fears, The Beatles nor The Soft Boys could stop me, provided the cover art made it clear that it was a different album. I couldn't, for instance, put a picture of Elvis on it and call it Elvis' Greatest Hits (or put a big U2 on it and call it U2....) HAHAHAHAHAHA I was working as a promoter for SST Records when this came out (SST 272 I believe) Greg was a very, very unhappy person............for an even better laugh look at Negativeland's next record (Guns) and who it is dedicated to. - --B NP: U2 --Negativeland ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:10:27 -0600 (CST) From: amadain Subject: Re: Duplicate album names > 1) You cannot copyright a title. > 2) You can be sued if you have a misleading or libelous title. > 3) Big labels may pressure you even if you aren't being misleading or > libelous. > > I could call my album "Surfer Girl", "Songs from the big Chair", > "Revolver" or "Underwater Moonlight", and neither The Beach Boys, Tears > for Fears, The Beatles nor The Soft Boys could stop me, provided the cover > art made it clear that it was a different album. > > I couldn't, for instance, put a picture of Elvis on it and call it Elvis' > Greatest Hits (or put a big U2 on it and call it U2....) *laugh* Oh my! I'm sure I'm not the only one who thought about Negativland upon reading this. I don't remember the story very clearly, but I know they ran into trouble with a U2 parody. The grounds that some people will claim for "the cover art making it clear so that Joe Shopper doesn't get confused" are actually pretty iffy sometimes. You can -tell- for instance, that the Negativland record is NOT a U2 record, but the record company sued on exactly the ground mentioned above, anyway. The -excuse- was that consumers would get confused, the -reason- was that they didn't like U2 being parodied. It should be noted that the story has it that this was the record company, and that the members of U2 didn't care much about it one way or another really. There is a documentary film about the case which was making the independent circuit for a time as part of an effort to raise money for the legal proceedings, as Negativland and SST records aren't exactly people with big bucks. I believe the end result was that SST records had to pay Island one dollar or some such. I'm sure someone else can fil in the story a bit better. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:35:05 PST From: "Elizabeth Morgan" Subject: Re: major tom >> I also love this song (and am a huge Bowie fan). I think it's meant to >>be an homage, as well as a continuation of the story (note: the parenthetical >>title is "(Coming Home)"). Lyrical content aside, the music is inarguably >>original (which is to say, not plageurized (sp?)). Leave poor Peter alone. >>Isn't it bad enough he was an early 80's one-hit wonder, forever condemned to >>be packaged and re-packaged alongside the likes of Kajagoogoo and Total Coelo? > >call it cosmic justice. it's a pretty good song though. here's the >company it keeps: > >The Living in Oblivion: 80's Greatest Hits, Vol. 5: > >Major Tom (Coming Home) (Lodge,David/Schilling,Peter) >Hyperactive (Dolby,Thomas) >Promises, Promises (Byrne,Pete/Fisher,Rob) >Promise (Farrington,Clive/Mann,Andre...) >Vienna (Cann,Warren/Currie,Billy) >Enola Gay (Orchestral Manoeuvres in th...) >King in a Catholic Style (Daley,Gary/Johnson,Garry/Lu...) >Steady (Lauper,Cyndi/Shear,Jules) >Our Lips Are Sealed (Hall,Terry/Wiedlin,Jane) >Pleasure and Pain (Chapman,Mike/Knight,Holly) >Birds Fly (Whisper to a Scream) (McNabb,Ian) >Honeythief (McElhone,J./Mcleod,A./Skinn...) >I Wanna Be a Cowboy (Chatton,Brian/Ramsden,Nico/...) >Captain of Her Heart (Haug,Felix/Maloo,Kurt) >Love Changes (Everything) (Climie,Simon/Fisher,Rob/Mor...) >More Than Physical (Aitken,Matt/Dollin,Sarah/Fa...) >Vanity Kills (Fry,Martin/White,Mark) >We Close Our Eyes (Cox,Peter/Drummie,Richard) When I posted the other day I forgot to add that I am a huge David Bowie fan! I think that might explain why I enjoy "Coming Home" so much. Can't say much about the other songs on Living in Oblivion, but I do like "The Promise" and "Enola Gay". Prosit! Elizabeth ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:39:29 -0800 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: Re: Live crabs and tape-ey trees Capuchin contended: > I think Nick's disclaimer is very close to being good. Wait a minute. "Close" to good means it can't actually *be* good, right? So it it's not good, there's only one other option, right? That would be ...bad. Is this just a subtle way of telling me my idea sucks!!!? ;) ~N ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 21:41:46 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: Duplicate album names > I don't remember the story very clearly, but I know they ran into trouble > with a U2 parody. The grounds that some people will claim for "the cover > art making it clear so that Joe Shopper doesn't get confused" are actually > pretty iffy sometimes. You can -tell- for instance, that the Negativland > record is NOT a U2 record, but the record company sued on exactly the > ground mentioned above, anyway. The -excuse- was that consumers would get I even read the book. From what I've seen, the record could easily mistook as being called "Negativland" and by U2. The art was, in giant print, "U2", a U2 bomber and in tiny print, "negativland". The song list was parodies of U2 songs, and it was released a few weeks before some U2 album. In my opinion, it was confusing. And as a result of this and other things, negativland sued SST. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 21:52:42 -0500 From: twofangs/randi spiegel Subject: more Robyn info then you'll ever need... Since I'm starvin' for new RH music here in Toronto... ....I did some searching...though for info, not music, sadly ;{ So here you go...if you kiddies in this globe of fegs... click here... http://www.canoe.com/Search/jamsearch.html then enter Robyn's name...you will see the reams and reams of articles in the database :) Happy New Year and Love On You All, Randi Toronto, Ontario, Canada *what scares you most will set you free* - Robyn Hitchcock p.s. my computer crashed and I'm way behind on EVERYTHING so please forgive me...those who I owe stuff too... p.p.s. the spoken word chain tape arrived in the mail today ! ! ! ! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:48:37 -0800 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: Re: FAR more than a top ten (little Robyn- you've been warned!) The real Mr. Hedblade cringed: > I'm going to say I'm really sorry for this right now. Yes, I went > overboard. WAY overboard. No need to apologize, Jay (at least, not to me), I really appreciate all the lists that have materialised over the last couple of weeks. Very interesting. Lots of good stuff to investigate. I'm making my shopping list, even as you read this. > Indulgent? yes. Pointless? mostly. Fun? certainly! You got my vote! We'll soon have more than enough Robyn content, what with two CDs and a film just around the corner, so now's a good time to "make hay while the sun shines" - at least as far as "off topic" posts go. ~N ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 21:54:35 -0500 From: squeaky watson Subject: Re: Duplicate album names also sprach amadain: >*laugh* Oh my! I'm sure I'm not the only one who thought about Negativland >upon reading this. ...don't have my negativland -- u2 t-shirt on right now, but it's around here somewhere... >I don't remember the story very clearly, but I know they ran into trouble >with a U2 parody. well, "parody" may not be the right word. and kasey kasem might take issue with that as well... ;) anyways, for more details (albeit from the negativland perspective), check out the intellectual property issues section of negativworldwidewebland and make sure to take the time to read the "stealth" interview of the the edge by negativland members mark hosler and don joyce that mondo 2000's r. u. sirius set up after the fallout. very amusing. woj n.p. red stars theory -- but sleep came slowly ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:14:56 -0500 From: twofangs/randi spiegel Subject: oops...a little added info about Jam searching Oops... Make sure you scroll down the JAM! Showbiz Info Search page a bit... http://www.canoe.com/Search/jamsearch.html to the place where you are asked if you want to narrow your search down...well...it'll *kinda* look like this... * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * JAM! Showbiz Info Search Searching for information about your favorite pop star? How about a review of that new Travolta movie? You've come to the right place. Simply type in your keyword(s), hit the Search button, and we'll do the rest. Though we don't save every single showbiz story, we do maintain a sizable archive as part of the more than 6,000 pages that make up Jam! Enter your search words and press the search button: ~~~note from Randi...do NOT enter Robyn here...continue down the page~~~ Want to narrow it down? Pick your favorite section: MOVIES: News...Reviews...Video...News TELEVISION: News...TV...Shows...News THEATRE: News...Reviews BOOKS: News...Reviews...Features MUSIC: Music..... Reviews...... Artists News...... Encyclopedia of Canadian Pop Music Encyclopedia of Canadian Country Music Enter your search words and press the search button: ~~~~says Randi...enter "Robyn Hitchcock" like so...in quotations and click the button next to MUSIC~~~~ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I'm really sorry that this is so confusing...I was so excited that I kinda jumped the gun with my previous post... fading back into yesterday before tomorrow comes, Randi *what scares you most will set you free that's what the Angel said to me* - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:40:07 -0500 From: twofangs/randi spiegel Subject: oops post #2...or...Randi *really* jumped the gun and wasted bandwidth... Okay... The Jam! search reads Robyn Hitchcock AND Robyn - ie Robyn Is Here... So before I slink into total embarrassment and never post again...why don't you just read the relevant info here...and enjoy Jam! for your own personal searching fun...okay? okay... * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Sunday, October 27, 1996 Bristling Bragg a veritable showman By BEN RAYNER - Ottawa Sun When you think about it, British singer-songwriters Billy Bragg and Robyn Hitchcock make for a rather odd double bill. There's Bragg, the tireless agit-rocker -- an outspoken leftist who's been grounding his punk-rock rallying cries in social reality for nearly 20 years -- on one hand. On the other, there's the folk-influenced Hitchcock, a master spinner of slightly off-kilter psychedelic fairy tales. Whatever their differences, however, Bragg and Hitchcock do have one thing in common -- they're two of the most consistently listenable solo performers on the circuit today. Bragg was fired up, and the 38-year-old socialist's Friday-night set was a case study in passion. From the opening number -- a frenetic take on 1991's Accident Waiting to Happen -- through to the second encore's A New England, Bragg belted out nearly every tune with the same raw-throated intensity. Like a savvy politician, the remarkably well-informed Bragg used his music and genuine good humor to get the crowd on his side. But although he took between-song potshots at everyone from Kiss ("wrestlers with guitars") and Oasis to Alanis Morissette tribute bands, Bragg reserved most of his bile for the new Bank of Montreal ads that feature a children's choir singing Bob Dylan's The Times They Are A-Changin'. One of the evening's high points was a defiant attack on the Dylan song. No matter how many records Bragg makes, he'll probably never be able to recreate one of his bristling live performances. He's a true showman. ~~~~Robyn Hitchcock's opening set was equally captivating, albeit in a more trippy and introspective sense. He performed solo most of the time, a selection of acoustic and electric folk tunes drawn mainly from his latest release, the excellent Moss Elixir album. But Hitchcock's songs really took flight when he was joined on stage by guest violinist Deni Bonet, who's ethereal playing added a haunting depth to numbers like Beautiful Queen and a sense of urgency to Sinister But She Was Happy and the dark Filthy Bird.~~~~ SUN RATING: 4 OUT OF 5 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * John Sakamoto's Alternate Top 10 - Aug. 13-Aug. 27, 1996 ~~~~1. ROBYN HITCHCOCK, Sinister But She Was Happy: The lead-off track from the album that should finally give him a legitimate shot at mass success. If anything, the smooth, acoustic accompaniment makes Hitchcock's off-kilter lyrics seem even nuttier than usual. Quite possibly his best album since the glory days of the Soft Boys. (From Moss Elixir, Warner)~~~~ 2. DON SWAN & HIS ORCHESTRA, Hooray For Hollywood (Cha-Cha version) 3. 60 FT. DOLLS, Everybody's Got Something To Hide 4. BETTER THAN EZRA, Happy Endings 5. BLACK GRAPE with JOE STRUMMER, England's Irie 6. HOLLY PALMER, Five Little Birds 7. BLOODSTONE, Natural High 8. THE BLACK CROWES, Pimper's Paradise 9. NIGEL KENNEDY/JANE SIBERRY, Innig 10. SUEDE, Trash * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Sorry for all the trouble and insanity and posts (a personal record ;) fading back into yesterday, Randi *what scares you most will set you free* - RH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:31:23 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Duplicate album names >I even read the book. >>From what I've seen, the record could easily mistook as being called >"Negativland" and by U2. The art was, in giant print, "U2", a U2 bomber >and in tiny print, "negativland". The song list was parodies of U2 songs, >and it was released a few weeks before some U2 album. Really, it was much more of a parody of *Casey Kasem*. And yet, Kasem never said a word of protest, as far as I know. Guess he's not as fussy/self-important/litigious as U2 and Island. >And as a result of this and other things, negativland sued SST. Um, more the other way around, I believe. And SST has never been the same, it seems. There was a time (1986-1987ish) when SST was my favorite label. But since the Negativland problems and the Meat Puppets/Screaming Trees got signed to majors around the turn of the decade, SST's output has gone into the dumper. They really lost the touch -- couldn't stay current. Now half their records seem to be Greg Ginn vanity projects. :/ But I guess the label will press on, since they will always make money off their stellar back catalog. Eb, who has never owned a U2 album ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:47:22 -0500 From: nicastr@IDT.NET (Ben) Subject: Re: SF Sorrow (no RH) >I heard that charge once somewhere too, but I don't think it's a >significant link. > >SF Sorrow is a GREAT album, though -- I've never understood why it doesn't >have a more renowned reputation. Hell, I don't think it's even in print in >the States. It was available as an Edsel import for awhile, but Edsel >doesn't even exist anymore, right? > >Eb I believe Edsel does the T-Rex reissues, which are still available. So I imagine Edsel could be as well. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 00:53:41 EST From: Hedblade Subject: Re: major tom In a message dated 98-01-13 11:07:22 EST, you write: <<>> The Living in Oblivion: 80's Greatest Hits, Vol. 5: Major Tom (Coming Home) (Lodge,David/Schilling,Peter) Hyperactive (Dolby,Thomas) Promises, Promises (Byrne,Pete/Fisher,Rob) Promise (Farrington,Clive/Mann,Andre...) Vienna (Cann,Warren/Currie,Billy) Enola Gay (Orchestral Manoeuvres in th...) King in a Catholic Style (Daley,Gary/Johnson,Garry/Lu...) Steady (Lauper,Cyndi/Shear,Jules) Our Lips Are Sealed (Hall,Terry/Wiedlin,Jane) Pleasure and Pain (Chapman,Mike/Knight,Holly) Birds Fly (Whisper to a Scream) (McNabb,Ian) Honeythief (McElhone,J./Mcleod,A./Skinn...) I Wanna Be a Cowboy (Chatton,Brian/Ramsden,Nico/...) Captain of Her Heart (Haug,Felix/Maloo,Kurt) Love Changes (Everything) (Climie,Simon/Fisher,Rob/Mor...) More Than Physical (Aitken,Matt/Dollin,Sarah/Fa...) Vanity Kills (Fry,Martin/White,Mark) We Close Our Eyes (Cox,Peter/Drummie,Richard) Just for fun, I tried to name the artists that did each of these songs. The writers were a giveaway in some cases, but titles were fun to try and match. I nailed 14 of them. How do you score? :) Blinking On And Off, Jay H. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V7 #15 ******************************