From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V6 #113 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, December 30 1997 Volume 06 : Number 113 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: frank black/black francis (0% RH) [Eb ] Sequel Sampler available ["Jeff Pearce" ] cleaning vinyl (no RH) [nicastr@IDT.NET (Ben)] sticky taping issues [Bayard ] Re: God didn't create the album of the year in six days [Nick Winkworth <] Re: Radiohead didn't create the album of the year [Eb ] last two days... [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 00:36:15 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: frank black/black francis (0% RH) >My knowledge of what frank black has been up to recently apart from >tirelessly plugging the Pixies 'best-of', is that he is recording a >follow-up with the same band that he did 'The Cult of Ray' with, which >should be out in the first half of next year. I think it will be released >under a band name (I can't remember what the name actually is) rather than a >solo album. I have my reservations about him using this band full time >because I thought 'The Cult of Ray' was the least impressive thing he has >released with or without the Pixies. Still, it was by no means a dud so >hopefully he will come up with the goods for the new album. My understanding is that FB finished a new album LONG ago, as "Frank Black & The Catholics." But American passed on it. And I think he still hasn't signed with a new label. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 06:09:39 PST From: "Jeff Pearce" Subject: Sequel Sampler available Hi fegs, I was in a local CD shop over the weekend and noticed that they had multiple copies of the Sequel Sampler available at a close-out price. The only unreleased track on the compilation is "Statue With a Walkman." If anyone wants a copy, please respond to me privately. I can deliver it to a U.S. address for $9 ppd. Jeff Pearce moonloop@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 10:26:48 -0500 From: nicastr@IDT.NET (Ben) Subject: cleaning vinyl (no RH) What is the best way to clean dirty records? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 12:42:03 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: sticky taping issues > >One question, I've only been on this list for a few weeks, what is > >Monsieur Hitchcock's attitude to taping shows, is he on record as > >condoning or condemning the practice? > > I once saw RH's name on a list of bands that allow taping, and what kind > they allow (audience or soundboard). I remember it said something like he > allows audience taping as long as it's not conspicuous (so leave the > 15-foot mic stands at home). I know RH has permitted mic stands and even soundboard access on at least one occasion. I think it depends a lot on the venue and what mood robyn and his crew are in, or how well they know you. It can't hurt to ask. Still, stealth taping is always the best bet. Robyn has been very tolerant of tapers in the past couple of years, even commenting "Get a tape of the show, live tapes have more life." Check out the taping medley on the forthcoming spoken word tape: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/wordtape.htm I think it's interesting to note that of all the robyn bootlegs, none are from soundboard tapes or even particularly good sounding tapes. _stand back dennis_ was from FM broadcasts, i believe. it seems that the _rob bob and albert_ and _beautiful queen_ discs are from two separate analog cassettes taped from the audience and inferior to the DAT that has circulated here (also, of course, incomplete due to the 74 min cd time limit). It would be neat if Antwoman or WB would release more live stuff, but I think things will most likely stay just as they are. At least we'll have two releases next year. =b ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 10:08:11 -0800 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: Re: God didn't create the album of the year in six days Russ "Hacksaw" Reynolds wrote: > Nothing new comes out between Christmas & New Years. I'm still discovering stuff that came out *years* ago. That still counts as "new" for me. Maybe I'm weird - but I *know* I'm not the only weird one around *here*! ;) > If you happen to uncover a terrific album during that time that > you end up enjoying for six days out of 365, how can you rationally call > that the album of the year? Well, that depends on your definition of "Album of the Year". Yours (if I read you right) is "the album which *defined* the year", in which case I agree with you. But I'm talking about "the best album(s) I have heard during the year" - quite a different concept. For example, one album which *defined* '97 for me is certainly ML/ME - but the reason is the connection with all the good folk on this list and especially those I have had the pleasure of meeting (including you, Russ!), more so than the music - excellent though it is. My *best* albums of '97 may not even include this at all, and in fact may well include some things I first heard less than a week ago. I'm still mulling... Watch this space. :) > One more point: How many albums have you spent about six days with > thinking they were the greatest thing you ever heard only to tire of them > by the 7th day under the realization that they really weren't? I actually can't think of a single instance of this. On the other hand I can think of many albums that on first hearing I thought were crap - or I just didn't get - but on repeated listening I came to appreciate. If an album is *really* great (for me personally, you understand - I make no judgments in the grand scheme of things), it usually hits me immediately. Sometimes an excellent record will slowly build, but that tends to be in a lesser category. > Just as one shouldn't marry a girl one's only known for six days, Darn, I knew there was a reason! ;) ~N (Not a professional critic; Relax. You are not expected to agree with my opinions.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 14:22:39 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Radiohead didn't create the album of the year Nick wrote: >I'm still discovering stuff that came out *years* ago. That still counts >as "new" for me. Maybe I'm weird - but I *know* I'm not the only weird >one around *here*! ;) Sure, one always makes "historical" discoveries. I don't have as much older stuff left to dig up as I once did, but I did discover Harmonia 76 and Silver Apples this year. And last year, I discovered Epic Soundtracks, Sneakers (pre-dBs band) and Bricks (pre-Superchunk band). But we were talking about the best records of *1997*, so this is irrelevant. >Well, that depends on your definition of "Album of the Year". Yours (if >I read you right) is "the album which *defined* the year", in which case >I agree with you. But I'm talking about "the best album(s) I have heard >during the year" - quite a different concept. Well, I believe that LJ was asking for our favorite records that are copyrighted 1997 (ie, new releases). But you'll remember that I myself also posted a Top 10 of the best old stuff I acquired this year. And to be honest, I like the top half of that list better than anything which 1997 offered. 1997 was probably my all-time least favorite musical year of the rock era. No kidding. I can't believe that the Geraldine Fibbers/Butch was my favorite disc. I mean, if I go back 10 years, there are like TEN *1987* records I like better than Butch. >> One more point: How many albums have you spent about six days with >> thinking they were the greatest thing you ever heard only to tire of them >> by the 7th day under the realization that they really weren't? Doesn't happen for me, either. But I can certainly think of a few recent artists whom I gradually warmed up to, like Tricky and Possum Dixon. Incidentally, for those interested, the best URL I've found for seeing upcoming release dates is http://www.icemagazine.com/docs/npandr.html . Check it out if you're curious. And FYI, this page lists exactly TWO records coming out during the last week of 1997. So James, if you plan to list the soundtrack for The Postman in your 1997 Top 10, your wait was worth it. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 06:27:47 +0000 From: Tanter Subject: best... IF I were going to do a list, one of my bests would be Puff Daddy's tribute to Notorious B.I.G., the sample of "Every Breath You Take." It's a really sweet song and a wonderful way to tribute a friend. And Sting was incredibly nice to let them do it. I know it's not a deep, meaningful song in an intellectual way, but every time I hear it, I get a little misty-eyed. Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 16:09:43 -0500 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: last two days... > Trash Can Sinatras are a great band. Nothing new from them in '97, >though, James, so you can't use that as justification for putting off The >List. best bands first heard in '97 best music acquired in '97 :) (I've also been introduced to the music of St Etienne in the last couple of days, and this afternoon I go to see the movie Titanic. The year is still running...) James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V6 #113 *******************************