From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V6 #89 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, December 6 1997 Volume 06 : Number 089 Today's Subjects: ----------------- 20 track promo-sampler [Mike Runion ] Beautiful Queen promo ["Jeff Pearce" ] Merry Glass and Happy Flesh [Mike Runion ] re: Merry Glass and Happy Flesh ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Freebird -- a possible history [Sumiko Keay ] Re: Freebird -- a possible history [Tom Clark ] Re: Freebird -- a possible history [Eb ] the old Bill, Nyman/Glass, and 3 NZ music references! :) [james.dignan@st] Jazz Cafe gig [Karen Reichstein ] Re: Freebird -- a possible history [Russ Reynolds ] Re: Freebird -- a possible history [Bayard ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 09:58:48 -0800 From: Mike Runion Subject: 20 track promo-sampler Can anyone give me a rundown on this thing? I guess it came out a few years ago...and I'm wondering about the track listing, packaging, etc. Wasn't there a few sampler type CDs out a couple of years ago? Thanks, Mike - -- Mike Runion Cocoa, FL, USA /******************************************************************\ | VCM: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/cones.htm | | Fegmaps: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/fegmaps | | Spoken Word Tape: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/wordtape.htm | \******************************************************************/ "Wait a minute. Time for a Planetary Sit-In!" - Julian Cope ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 07:19:29 PST From: "Jeff Pearce" Subject: Beautiful Queen promo Hi Fegs, I've been offered a copy of the "Beautiful Queen" promo CD (the Dylan cover gig), but I'm not sure the price is fair. The seller is asking $40. Does anyone have any idea if this is a fair price or have any suggestions on where to find a cheaper copy? Thanks for your help. Please reply by private mail. Jeff Pearce ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 10:45:35 -0800 From: Mike Runion Subject: Merry Glass and Happy Flesh Hey all, I'm sitting here at work diligently massaging a squirrely database and listening to Glass Flesh for the first time in months through the headphones. I'm on Meat Ruiner's version of "Love" right now, and felt compelled to write in about how great it is. There's a chill wind blowing in outside and this song is the first thing this year to kick me headlong into the wintery Christmas spirit. Other favs that I just can't help but relishing: The Transparencies el-cheapo version of "Trash", Catch23's "Another Bubble", and of course Kevin Slick's slick "Brenda's Iron Sledge". Damn, Nismo S. Rebrot's "Flavour of Night" is now blaring away in splendor. Bayard and Mark, are you sure this isn't a Christmas album? Just some thoughts to break the monotony, Mike - -- Mike Runion Cocoa, FL, USA /******************************************************************\ | VCM: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/cones.htm | | Fegmaps: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/fegmaps | | Spoken Word Tape: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/wordtape.htm | \******************************************************************/ "Wait a minute. Time for a Planetary Sit-In!" - Julian Cope ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 11:14:36 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: re: Merry Glass and Happy Flesh Mike Runion sed: >I'm sitting here at work diligently massaging a squirrely database and >listening to Glass Flesh for the first time in months through the >headphones. Whoa, I too am currently listening to Glass Flesh. I am sitting at work diligently massaging an HTML input form. May I now coin the term "Fegronicity" to describe such moments? >I'm on Meat Ruiner's version of "Love" right now, and felt >compelled to write in about how great it is. My personal fave, too. But Bayard does not seem to be particularly forthright about who Meat Ruiner is, exactly. Or maybe he doesn't know, either. But I'd sure like to hear more Meat Ruiner, tho. +++++++++++++++++ "And the same goes for Christmas!..." + Gene Hopstetter, Jr. + -- Michael Nesmith, in "Head" +++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 14:58:01 -0600 From: Sumiko Keay Subject: Freebird -- a possible history I think there was a live Lynrd Skynrd (sp?) lp out during the 70's from which radio stations used to play "Freebird" - -- at the beginning of the track you could hear the audience yelling, you guessed it, "Freebird." After that it became an audience joke to yell 'Freebird' -- especially lame now that no one remembers the origin! I think that's how it started! Sumiko ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 97 13:38:30 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Freebird -- a possible history On 12/5/97 12:58 PM, Sumiko Keay wrote: >I think there was a live Lynrd Skynrd (sp?) lp out during >the 70's from which radio stations used to play "Freebird" >-- at the beginning of the track you could hear the >audience yelling, you guessed it, "Freebird." After that it >became an audience joke to yell 'Freebird' -- especially >lame now that no one remembers the origin! My take on .chris's "Freebird gene vs. Stairway gene" derives from Sumiko's reference to the Skynyrd LP "One More From The Road", in which Ronnie VanZant (?) is heard asking the audience "What song is it you want to hear?" (sic). Of course the audience yells back en masse "Freebird!". This is the reason the Freebird Gene has flourished and the Stairway Gene has died out. You see, Skynyrd was a much more egalitarian band. They encouraged the fans express themselves freely, no matter the personal disgrace. This is obvious to anyone who's ever been to a Skynyrd show, and, to a lesser extent, an Outlaws show. Zeppelin, on the other hand, were an entity unto themselves. There was never any "How can we please you" chatter from Mr. Plant - the Mighty Ones were just going to pummel you with the Hammer Of The Gods(tm) and you were gonna like it. Thus, the only positive reinforcement from yelling "Stairway!" at a Zeppelin show came to those who just happened to be lucky enough to yell it at the right time. And considering it usually came towards the end of the set, any true Zep Hed worth his custard pie would be too stoned to mutter anything other than "cheeseburger" at that point. To change tack just a little and put this ship back on course: There has yet to be established any form of traceable "Dead Wife gene" since Robyn's response to "requests" is usually either total indifference or the occasional "What did you say?"followed by a spontaneous song based on the misheard request. There ya have it folks. I've just about used up my word quota for the month. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 14:35:53 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Freebird -- a possible history >My take on .chris's "Freebird gene vs. Stairway gene" derives from >Sumiko's reference to the Skynyrd LP "One More From The Road", in which >Ronnie VanZant (?) is heard asking the audience "What song is it you want >to hear?" (sic). Of course the audience yells back en masse "Freebird!". > >This is the reason the Freebird Gene has flourished and the Stairway Gene >has died out. You see, Skynyrd was a much more egalitarian band. They >encouraged the fans express themselves freely, no matter the personal >disgrace. This is obvious to anyone who's ever been to a Skynyrd show, >and, to a lesser extent, an Outlaws show. Personally, I think it's more phonetic than philosophical. The cry "Freebird!" is brief, and has comic punch. Sounding out all the sylllables to "Stairway to Heaven" doesn't cut it. Also, I'm not sure it's so much an "egalitarian" thing -- when someone yells "Freebird," the joke is that he's trying to act like a redneck hard-rock numbskull. And Zeppelin doesn't satisfy that requirement (particularly in the case of "Stairway to Heaven") nearly as well as Skynyrd. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 15:35:51 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: the old Bill, Nyman/Glass, and 3 NZ music references! :) something Shakespeare said, Nyman/Glass, and three kiwi music references! :) >>almost certainly no coincidence. This particular piece of Shakespeare has >>inspired a very large number of rock songs. Just off the top of my head I >>can think of the Muttonbirds' "Anchor Me" and a song which I forget the >>title of on Laurie Anderson's "Mr Heartbreak" album. I'd say it is a very >>likely source of inspiration for "Luminous Rose". >The Laurie Anderson piece (think it's called "Blue Lagoon") just has her >reciting the poetry (or a few lines of it anyway) over the music. Not sure >the whole song revolves around the words. not quite, but it does bear on it. And she manages to get in a nod to Herman Melville as well: Days, I dive by the wreck. Nights, I swim in the blue lagoon. Full fathom five my father lies. Of his bones are coral made. Those are pearls that were his eyes. Nothing of him that doth fade. But that suffers a sea change. Into something rich and strange. And I alone am left to tell the tale. Call me Ishmael meanwhile, the Muttonbirds sang: Full fathom five, someday I'll lie Singing songs that come from dead men's tongues Anchor me, anchor me As the compass turns and the glass it falls Where the storm clouds roll and the gulls they call Anchor me, anchor me There may be a Tempest influence in Luminous Rose, but then again it's hard to write 'submerged, lost' songs withiut invoking the same imagery. Even my favourite such song, "Submarine Bells", by the Chills, uses much the same imagery Since the weakest currents bruise it, someday I may lose this Immersed in words and miss you, kiss foaming waves goodbye I slice the surface here beside you, lungs filled liquid yell I love you Sound moves further underwater... >Nyman -> Brian Eno -> Talking Heads -> Jonathan Demme -> Robyn (Nyman put out a few recordings on Eno's Obscure label back in the day.) oh come on now... that's far too easy. How about Philip Glass->Linda Ronstadt->Michael Nesmith->Davy Jones (who is reputed to have a locker full fathom five)->Peter Tork->George Harrison->Eric Idle->Ricky Fataar->Tim Finn->Phil Manzanera->Eno->Talking Heads -> Jonathan Demme -> Robyn? (yeah, I know, Glass has worked with Eno, but why spoil a good story?) Oh and Eb and others, if you like Nyman better than Glass, try Harold Budd. "The white arcades" is my favourite classical minimalist album, and his Abandoned Cities/The Serpent in Quixcksilver (especially the track "Dark Star") contains some of the scariest classical ambience ever written. >PS. What the heck is "The String Cheese Incident"? anything like the Great String Robberies? James (needle nardle noo...) NP, in response to Susan's chat with - who was it?Ross? - the best 'love song written by a man within a loving relationship' song: Split Enz "Message to my girl" (better than anything Neil later did with Crowded House!) James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 97 20:11:45 -0800 From: Karen Reichstein Subject: Jazz Cafe gig Hi Susan and all, Ack! Does anyone have a tape of this, perhaps? I only heard "Daisy Bomb" and "Adoration of the City" once, on a tape John Jones (aka Lobstie) gave me accidentally--I had to give it back to him, sadly. But if anyone has a tape of this gig, I will gladly send homemade cookies--even transatlantically, if needed. Karen >Hello to the virtual and far away > >I typed in the set list from the Jazz Cafe gig two weeks back. >My favourite from the evening was 'Adoration of the City'. (It sounds >great on the electric guitar, esp. with jazzy saxophone and rhythm banana.) > >Groentjes, >Susan > >- ------- >robyn hitchcock, jazz cafe, london, 20.11.1997 > >[solo acoustic, black shirt with white spots] >(don't talk to me about) gene hackman >chinese bones >feels like 1974 >clean steve > >[joined by tim on percussion sticks] >i feel beautiful >[tim switched to acoustic guitar] >madonna of the wasps >jewels for sofia >queen elvis > >[robyn solo] >glass hotel (!!) > >[joined by tschuks on sax] >devil's radio > >[robyn on electric (rhythm) guitar, tschuks on sax] >the lizzard > >[robyn solo electric] >you & oblivion >freeze >airscape > >[encore, orange shirt with green apples !!] > >[robyn on acoustic, joined by the janes on vocals and banana] >daisy bomb (!!) >[robyn on electric, tschuks on sax, tim on banana and mini-tambourine] >adoration of the city (!!) >[robyn and tim switch to acoustics] >i saw nick drake (!!) >- ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 97 20:23:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Re: Freebird -- a possible history Am I the only one who yells "Bohemian Rhapsody!" at every show? -russ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 23:51:23 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Freebird -- a possible history more songs about TOAST! ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V6 #89 ******************************