From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V6 #84 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, December 1 1997 Volume 06 : Number 084 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Cranberry Juice trivia [Eb ] Re: Cranberry Juice trivia [Chris ] Re: Roy Harper [squeaky watson ] saturn battery ["Capitalism Blows" ] Re: Raw Cuts [squeaky watson ] Maybe it's part of a legend... [Marshall Joseph Armintor ] Balloons, similarities, chord corrections and Loreena McKennitt [james.di] Re: Cranberry Juice trivia [Capuchin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 22:30:06 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Cranberry Juice trivia >He was drinking cranberry juice during the june '91 9:30 club gig too. >He made reference to it, as is his wont, speculating what it would be >like if he were transparent > >Cranberry juice. I think I detect a pattern here. :) Maybe he's prone to bladder infections. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 12:58:26 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Subject: Re: Cranberry Juice trivia >Subject: Re: Cranberry Juice trivia >Cranberry juice. I think I detect a pattern here. :) >Is it true drinking lots of cranberry juice can help you pass a drug test, >or is this more urban legendaria? I know someone who always drinks cranberry juice because they are prone to bladder infections. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 16:02:55 -0500 From: squeaky watson Subject: Re: Roy Harper also sprach Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer: >I've managed to convince my sister and my brother-in-law to see Robyn >at the next Boat Race gig, for they live but 15 miles away from >Cambridge. In trying to describe Robyn to them (they've never heard >any), my brother-in-law says "Aha! Sounds like Roy Harper!" whoa. >So, are there similarities, or am I just very bad at describing >Robyn's stage presence? well. not really. they are similar to the extent that they both play guitar and tend to do solo shows these days. beyond these superficial similarities, they're not *that* similar. robyn's politics are subduded, where roy wears his on his sleeve. robyn's between song banters are calculated, where roy's are completely unintended. robyn's songs tend to be more subtle, where roy's are direct. both are good guitarists, but fairly different in ways that i can't quite explain -- i do like the sound and tone of roy's playing better though. robyn's eccentric where it's quite possible that roy is just plain mad. that said, i don't think it's too far of a stretch for a fan of one to be a fan of the other -- along with peter hammill, robyn and roy are at the top of my personal musical pyramid (at least as far as men go). >Are there any Harperphiles out there who can recommend a good first album? a good first robyn album for a harperphile would be _i often dream of trains_ or _eye_. a good first roy album for a fegmaniac would be _hq_ (aka _when an old cricketeer leaves the crease_) or _valentine_ or _sophisticated beggar_. woj n.p. the pursuit of happiness -- the downward road ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 14:00:59 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: saturn battery for all of the three or four people that will be interested in this: the very first soft boys single, GIVE IT TO THE SOFT BOYS 7", was released as Raw Records, Raw 5, in 1977. the tracks were Wading Through A Ventilator, The Face of Death, Hear My Brane. the sleeve credits robyn hitchcock, morris windsor, andy metcalfe, and alan davies. produced by mike kemp & the soft boys for 'wall of noise' productions. recorded at spaceward studio. WADING THROUGH A VENTILATOR 12" (though 45 rpm), was released as DeLorean Records SOFT ONE, in 1984. the tracks were The Yodelling Hoover, Give It to the Sfot Boys, Vyrna Knowl is a Headbanger, Hear My Brane, The Face of Death, and Wading Through a Ventilator. the sleeve credits robyn hitchcock, alan davies, andy metcalfe, and maurice windsor. all tracks recoreded at spaceward studios 1977. produced by the soft boys and mike kemp. a song entitled "Where Are The Prawns?" was also recoreded at the same recording session. licensed from 'wall of noise' productions. all songs written by the soft boys. copyrights held in a bank vault. The Face of Death 7", was released as Overground Records, OVER 04, in 1989. the tracks were The Face of Death (mix 11), and The Yodelling Hoover. licensed from Raw Records. limited edition 1,000 copies. 600 on yellow vinyl, 400 on white, and 15 test pressings on gold. anybody out there got a copy of the gold one? RAW CUTS cd, was released as Overground Records OVER 05, in 1989. the tracks are the same as the WADING THROUGH A VENTILATOR 12". the sleeve credits robyn hitchcock, alan davies, and morris windsor, omitting andy for some unknown reason. licensed from Raw Records. includes a discography: "Well here is a full (?) Soft Boys discography. Test pressings inclueded if different form standard issues. If we have missed something --don't contact us-- we hate smart arses." i was not aware of the existence of a RAW CUTS 12", and, interestingly, it's not listed in this discography, though both THE FACE OF DEATH 7", and the RAW CUTS cd are. what are the catalog number and year of release of the 12", matt? somebody mentioned something a while back about a WADING THROUGH A VENTILATOR bootleg, and i had no idea what it was supposed to mean. now, i'm guessing that it must have meant the RAW CUTS 12". i'm almost certain that it's a rerelease rather than a bootleg, though. the only song from this record that didn't make it onto 1976-1981 is Vyrna Knowl. so, i *think* that RAW CUTS is the only place you will find Vyrna Knowl on cd. cool pictures on all of them. probably the best is the back cover of the Overground 7". Delorean also released a WADING THROUGH A VENTILATOR picture disc which features not only a couple pics of the band, but a pretty funny concert review, and robyn's drop dead hilarious press release for the original Raw single. according to the hamilton discography, the Face of Death on the Delorean 12" is different than the one on the Raw 7". and, according to the Overground discography, the Face of Death on the Overground 7" is different "to" the one on the Delorean 7". they all sound very similar to me, though. on the Overground 7", you can hear, "Face of Death, mix, take 10...fuck...take 11." on the Delorean 12", they count off, "one, two, three, four." it's possible that the bells are a little further back in the mix on the Overground 7". but they're really all basically the same. the principle reason you'd want to get all of them is for the pictures. if this post put you to sleep, that would indicate that you actually have a life, and you might want to get a specialist to check you out. Fuck You! I won't do what you tell me! (repeat fourteen times) --Rage Against the Machine ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 17:01:14 -0500 From: squeaky watson Subject: Re: Raw Cuts also sprach Bayard: >only "Give it to the Soft Boys" came out on Raw though, I think. correct, but there were other songs recorded at the time which make up the balance of "raw cuts". >Was _The Day They Ate Brick_ an Overground release as well? nope, that was on polarad records. >Anyway, I checked Russ Reynolds' RH Musicography and found no mention of >Raw Cuts, so I'd say it's a boot. huh. i was under the impression that it was a legitimate release. i seem to remember that overground got the rights to the songs after delorean records released the "wading through a ventilator" 12" and picture disc. it's listed in the legitimate album section of both the old fegmaniax and golden prince discographies. woj n.p. yas-kaz -- darkness in dreams ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 16:11:46 -0600 (CST) From: Marshall Joseph Armintor Subject: Maybe it's part of a legend... > i've heard that 120 minute tapes break quite frequently. is this an > "urban legend?" if not, is this not the case with 110 minute tapes? > i use 100 minute tapes frequently enough, and have never had a problem > with them. but i've never used a 110 minute tape. quite frankly, i'm > not even sure i knew they existed. I've only ever seen or used one 110-min tape; I used it to hold all the extant Pixies stuff incl. b-sides, etc. It *just* fit. Then Bossanova came out and ruined my scheme. Anecdotally, I used 120-min tapes at one point in my life quite a lot and never had a break...I used one to dub the then-import-only _I Often Dream of Trains_ in 1990 off a roommate (it fits neatly on one side), and you can believe that I played it to death....maybe I just took extra special care of it, that's probably why it's still okay. > Cranberry juice. I think I detect a pattern here. :) > Is it true drinking lots of cranberry juice can help you pass a drug test, > or is this more urban legendaria? After having kidney problems, my mom got into the cranberry juice pretty heavily on her doctor's advice. She soberly advised me to stay the hell away from her stash in the fridge...there may be something to that, then. :) marshall ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 17:21:47 -0500 From: squeaky watson Subject: caroline lavelle/loreena mckennit also sprach twofangs/randi spiegel: >One of the women I worked with on "The Mummers' Dance" video for >*Loreena McKennitt* is a cello player named **Caroline Lavelle**...she >is an amazingly talented woman...plays with *Massive Attack*, *Peter >Gabriel*, *Loreena*, and has an album out under her own name... i have this album, titled _spirit_, and it's fairly good -- some of it is enya-ish yawners, but there are really interesting renditions of the traditional tunes "moorlough shore" and "my lagan love", as well as a cover of joni mitchell's "a case of you". william orbit provides some nice treatments and sounds, if you're into that kind of thing. nick adds: >I have recently discovered Loreena McKennitt myself and cannot recommend >her highly enough. For those who don't know her, she does a unique >celtic folk/middle-eastern fusion thing. the fusion thang is a relatively new development in loreena's sound. her first three records were pretty much straight up celtic trad (or trad-a-like) harp music. her fourth, _the visit_, is the album which broke her. it departs somewhat from the trad thang, but she was still working well-within that sound. the past two records, _the mask and mirror_ and _a book of secrets_, are the two that really mix celtic, iberian and moorish influences. woj s.p. yas-kaz -- darkness in dreams ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:38:23 +1300 (NZDT) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Balloons, similarities, chord corrections and Loreena McKennitt watched the TV news the other night... the last "special odd news" item made me want to listen to "Balloon Man" straight away. I'd never heard of the Macy's parade before, but the high winds made sure it got on TV news... Was the song Balloon Man written specifically about the Macy's parade? Sounds too much of a coincidence not to have been (although it always brings the "Staypuft Marshmallow Man" scene from Ghostbusters to mind for me!) Matthew "ye sleeping" Knights sez: >On the Robyn similarities, I've heard no Roy Harper but I do have a few >Lloyd Cole albums which I like. Once or twice I've answered "What's Robyn >Hitchcock like then ?" with "He's like an eccentric Lloyd Cole !" Although he's probably even less well known in the UK or UK than Robyn., I have described Robyn to people as an eccentric Paul Kelly. I'd love to hear Robyn singing "Before too long" (or Paul singing "The moon inside") > C#m B A E > So you think you-re in lo-o-ove, yes you probably are. > A B > But you wanna be straight about it. > A B > Oh you wanna be straight about it now. > > D#m E A E > Can you, imagine what the people say? > D#m E > Can you? > A Am > But the silent majority is the crime of the century. > F# > You know it. good, although the end of the first line of the verse goes E Esus4 E, and I have a funny feeling that the "Can you" part starts D# G#m, not D#m E. >I have recently discovered Loreena McKennitt myself and cannot recommend >her highly enough. For those who don't know her, she does a unique >celtic folk/middle-eastern fusion thing. And she has a fabulous voice, >too! If you like Loreena McKennitt's music, I'd also recommend you trying Dead Can Dance (especially 'Towards the Within' and 'Into the Labyrinth'). They're perhaps a little more adventurous in their styling that Loreena, but definitely worth the trip! James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 17:24:48 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Cranberry Juice trivia On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Bayard wrote: > Cranberry juice. I think I detect a pattern here. :) > Is it true drinking lots of cranberry juice can help you pass a drug test, > or is this more urban legendaria? Well, I'm pretty sure that's just silliness. I'd just like to submit that I always keeps cranberry juice on hand in the refrigerator. In fact, it's the only beverage that I will reliably have at home at any given time (discounting, of course, water). I have no drug test worries. I'm not prone to bladder infections. I like it. Often with soda water. Sometimes with lime. Perhaps Robyn LIKES it? No, I guess that's a stretch. Jeme. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V6 #84 ******************************